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[Tony116]

Finally, Bangladesh has achieved a victory over Afghanistan. In the third ODI match, Bangladesh managed to win by 7 wickets, so avoid whitewash in the ODI series against Afghanistan. The bowlers displayed outstanding performance, with special mention to Shoriful Islam's performance. Shakib Al Hasan played an aggressive innings, while Captain Litton led the team till end. Congratulations to Afghanistan for winning the series 2-1. Since 2015, Afghanistan is only the second team to defeat Bangladesh in an ODI series on their home ground.

Whitewash is avoided, but I really don't think that this consolation win would do anything to improve their reputation. Bangladesh did well during the ODI Super League by finishing at the 3rd position. They won a total of 15 matches out of 24 (although many of the wins were achieved at home, under helpful pitch conditions). Whatever they achieved during the ODI Super League is under the threat of getting erased. The upcoming Asia Cup and ODI World Cup will be crucial for Bangladesh to showcase the improvement they made in the ODI format.

Bangladesh was able to avoid the whitewash. But was it a good enough performance from them? I mean the performance throughout the series. Bangladesh was supposed to win this series against Afghanistan. In my opinion, they have failed miserably. Of course, if there was not so much drama around the players and the team, I think Bangladesh could actually perform well. But the senior players do not understand that do they? They think they are everything in the team and no one else matters. And Bangladesh is not going to perform well in the World Cup. I am almost sure about that. The team is not working perfectly and the chemistry between the players are not good right now.

[LittleBitFunny]

Finally, Bangladesh has achieved a victory over Afghanistan. In the third ODI match, Bangladesh managed to win by 7 wickets, so avoid whitewash in the ODI series against Afghanistan. The bowlers displayed outstanding performance, with special mention to Shoriful Islam's performance. Shakib Al Hasan played an aggressive innings, while Captain Litton led the team till end. Congratulations to Afghanistan for winning the series 2-1. Since 2015, Afghanistan is only the second team to defeat Bangladesh in an ODI series on their home ground.

The match was not important for Afghanistan. Because they won the series 2-0. And so Rashid Khan, one of Afghanistan's best players, was absent in this match. Afghanistan's performance might have been better if Rashid Khan was with the squad. However, it is challenging to beat Bangladesh on their home ground. However, all three matches were held in Chittagong. It might have been more difficult for Afghanistan to win the series if it was held in Mirpur. Two T20 matches will be held in Sylhet. Match two is expected to be very competitive.

Although Bangladesh won this match by 7 wickets, I would not count it a big success for them. The Afghanistan team has already won the series and this match. So I don't think that they were much serious about this game. Most of the batsmen played careless shots which caused them to make only 126 runs.
Bangladesh should take this win as a morale booster for the T20 series between the two teams starting from Friday 14, July. I believe that Bangladesh has to play very well else Afghanistan is in full form to win that series too.

I agree, Bangladesh won by 7 wickets. And they won quite easily. Still, I'd say it's not a big achievement for them. As Bangladesh played well in the last few series. Expectations were high from them in this series as well. But they could not win the series. Bangladesh lost badly in the first two matches. If they cannot play well against a team like Afghanistan, nothing good can be expected from this team in the World Cup.
We also don't know how Bangladesh will play in the T20 format. But I think Afghanistan players are more experienced than Bangladesh in the T20 format. Afghanistan players perform well in various franchise leagues.

[Sithara007]

I agree, Bangladesh won by 7 wickets. And they won quite easily. Still, I'd say it's not a big achievement for them. As Bangladesh played well in the last few series. Expectations were high from them in this series as well. But they could not win the series. Bangladesh lost badly in the first two matches. If they cannot play well against a team like Afghanistan, nothing good can be expected from this team in the World Cup.
We also don't know how Bangladesh will play in the T20 format. But I think Afghanistan players are more experienced than Bangladesh in the T20 format. Afghanistan players perform well in various franchise leagues.

The experience gained by players like Rashid Khan, Mujeeb ur Rahman, Noor Ahmed and Fazalhaq Farooqi by playing in franchise T20 leagues around the world has definitely helped them to improve the quality of their game. Bangladesh on the other hand has only a handful of players who participate in such leagues. There is the Bangladesh Premier League, but the quality seems to be going down with each passing year. Afghanistan's future looks much brighter when compared to that of Bangladesh and the latter has been in stagnant mode for quite some time now.

[Litzki1990]

Finally, Bangladesh has achieved a victory over Afghanistan. In the third ODI match, Bangladesh managed to win by 7 wickets, so avoid whitewash in the ODI series against Afghanistan. The bowlers displayed outstanding performance, with special mention to Shoriful Islam's performance. Shakib Al Hasan played an aggressive innings, while Captain Litton led the team till end. Congratulations to Afghanistan for winning the series 2-1. Since 2015, Afghanistan is only the second team to defeat Bangladesh in an ODI series on their home ground.

Whitewash is avoided, but I really don't think that this consolation win would do anything to improve their reputation. Bangladesh did well during the ODI Super League by finishing at the 3rd position. They won a total of 15 matches out of 24 (although many of the wins were achieved at home, under helpful pitch conditions). Whatever they achieved during the ODI Super League is under the threat of getting erased. The upcoming Asia Cup and ODI World Cup will be crucial for Bangladesh to showcase the improvement they made in the ODI format.

Bangladesh was able to avoid the whitewash. But was it a good enough performance from them? I mean the performance throughout the series. Bangladesh was supposed to win this series against Afghanistan. In my opinion, they have failed miserably. Of course, if there was not so much drama around the players and the team, I think Bangladesh could actually perform well. But the senior players do not understand that do they? They think they are everything in the team and no one else matters. And Bangladesh is not going to perform well in the World Cup. I am almost sure about that. The team is not working perfectly and the chemistry between the players are not good right now.

Based on the recent performance of Bangladesh it can be said that Bangladesh was favorite over Afghanistan in this series but Bangladesh lost miserably against Afghanistan in the first two matches. Bangladesh batsmen have given away wickets in the first two matches against Afghanistan. In the second match, not only batting was bad, Bangladeshis performed very badly in both batting and bowling. Bangladesh has held this team beautifully till now, it would be wrong to think of forming a team without the senior cricketers.

I hope that the T20 series will come in favor of Bangladesh in senior junior combination. Since the series against Afghanistan was lost, Bangladesh should now plan for the T20 series.

[Jateng]

Bangladesh vs Afghanistan in today's match, Bangladesh team performed well. Bangladesh won today's match by 7 wickets. Afghanistan batted first and gave a target of 126 runs.  lAfghanistan lost today's match due to poor performance.Afghanistan team players performed very badly in the bowling line.The strong batsmen of the Afghanistan team could not score more runs today. If Afghanistan had given a target of 200 runs in today's match, Bangladesh might have won.

Bangladesh won the 3rd Odi by 7 Wickets amazing performance but Afghanistan won the Series of 2-1. I think 3rd ODi win of Bangladesh is only beacuse of Shoriful Islam Extra ordinary performance picking up 4 important wickets and getting a Reward of player of the match 4 wickets for just giving 29 runs in 9 overs. Although Afghanistan scores very low runs 126 runs in all out in just 45 Overs. Amazing bowling performance by Bangladesh bowlers specially Shoriful Islam and Shaib ul Hasan all round performance will help the team to win this match easily and chase down the target in just 23 Overs.

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The match was not important for Afghanistan. Because they won the series 2-0. And so Rashid Khan, one of Afghanistan's best players, was absent in this match. Afghanistan's performance might have been better if Rashid Khan was with the squad. However, it is challenging to beat Bangladesh on their home ground. However, all three matches were held in Chittagong. It might have been more difficult for Afghanistan to win the series if it was held in Mirpur. Two T20 matches will be held in Sylhet. Match two is expected to be very competitive.

Rashid Khan's absence wasn't the central reason for losing the match against Bangladesh. Bangladesh made some changes in the bowling unit. Shoriful Islam and Taskin were back in the squad again, and Shoriful had a significant role in the last match. He takes four wickets. The most critical wickets were getting top-order batters. All Bangladeshi bowlers were economical.

Bangladeshi opener Mohammad Naim failed again. Najmul Hossain Shanto wasn't able to play well. The top-orders somewhat failed again. They won the match because of the bowlers only. Chasing such a target was easy for them.

[Sithara007]

Rashid Khan's absence wasn't the central reason for losing the match against Bangladesh. Bangladesh made some changes in the bowling unit. Shoriful Islam and Taskin were back in the squad again, and Shoriful had a significant role in the last match. He takes four wickets. The most critical wickets were getting top-order batters. All Bangladeshi bowlers were economical.

Bangladeshi opener Mohammad Naim failed again. Najmul Hossain Shanto wasn't able to play well. The top-orders somewhat failed again. They won the match because of the bowlers only. Chasing such a target was easy for them.

The summary is that Afghanistan without many of their top players were able to defeat Bangladesh, and that too paying away from home. Now they have the two match T20I series. Shoriful Islam played a large part in the win by Bangladesh on 11th July, but the batting collapse from Afghanistan was unexpected. For Afghanistan, their bowling was always a notch higher than their batting capability. And this is one of the reasons why they perform so poorly in test matches. Ibrahim Zadran and Rahmanullah Gurbaz are talented players, but they are too volatile.

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The summary is that Afghanistan without many of their top players were able to defeat Bangladesh, and that too paying away from home. Now they have the two match T20I series. Shoriful Islam played a large part in the win by Bangladesh on 11th July, but the batting collapse from Afghanistan was unexpected. For Afghanistan, their bowling was always a notch higher than their batting capability. And this is one of the reasons why they perform so poorly in test matches. Ibrahim Zadran and Rahmanullah Gurbaz are talented players, but they are too volatile.

I don't know which top players of their team are not played in this series. Rashid, Nabi, and Mujeeb are playing in this series, and I count them as the top players in Afghanistan. I knew Shahzad, who plays as an opener for Afghanistan. I don't know where he is and why he is not playing. Except for him, I don't remember other missing top players from Afghanistan.

Their bowling unit is strong enough to fight against a top-class team. Their batting line is not bad as well. They can beat anything on their good day. They have some experienced batters like Nabi and Rashid who playing for Afghanistan for a long time now.

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Bangladesh won the 3rd Odi by 7 Wickets amazing performance but Afghanistan won the Series of 2-1. I think 3rd ODi win of Bangladesh is only beacuse of Shoriful Islam Extra ordinary performance picking up 4 important wickets and getting a Reward of player of the match 4 wickets for just giving 29 runs in 9 overs. Although Afghanistan scores very low runs 126 runs in all out in just 45 Overs. Amazing bowling performance by Bangladesh bowlers specially Shoriful Islam and Shaib ul Hasan all round performance will help the team to win this match easily and chase down the target in just 23 Overs.

Shoriful Islam bowling was excellent and I was looking he bowled 9 overs and got 4 wickets for 21 runs. Bangladesh made a lot pressure on Afghanistan. So Afghanistan were not able to stable itself on pitch. They lost wickets continuously and made only 126 runs and this was not a good target. So Bangladesh chased this target easily with in 23 overs.

[Sithara007]

The summary is that Afghanistan without many of their top players were able to defeat Bangladesh, and that too paying away from home. Now they have the two match T20I series. Shoriful Islam played a large part in the win by Bangladesh on 11th July, but the batting collapse from Afghanistan was unexpected. For Afghanistan, their bowling was always a notch higher than their batting capability. And this is one of the reasons why they perform so poorly in test matches. Ibrahim Zadran and Rahmanullah Gurbaz are talented players, but they are too volatile.

I don't know which top players of their team are not played in this series. Rashid, Nabi, and Mujeeb are playing in this series, and I count them as the top players in Afghanistan. I knew Shahzad, who plays as an opener for Afghanistan. I don't know where he is and why he is not playing. Except for him, I don't remember other missing top players from Afghanistan.

Their bowling unit is strong enough to fight against a top-class team. Their batting line is not bad as well. They can beat anything on their good day. They have some experienced batters like Nabi and Rashid who playing for Afghanistan for a long time now.

Rashid Khan and Naveen-ul-Haq didn't played the third match, which they lost to Bangladesh. And at this point, Rashid is the dominant player in Afghanistan team (still agreed that he played the first two ODIs and contributed a lot). And Bangladesh was playing with a full-strength squad. Anyway, this is humiliating for Bangladesh. They have been defeated by a team that achieved full member status very recently. And who knows? Maybe ICC is also taking note. Bangladesh has continuously underperformed for the last two decades.

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Rashid Khan and Naveen-ul-Haq didn't played the third match, which they lost to Sri Lanka.

Weren't they playing against Bangladesh? Or did they play against Sri Lanka before this series?

They have been defeated by a team that achieved full member status. And who knows? Maybe ICC is also taking note. Bangladesh has continuously underperformed for the last two decades.

Yet Bangladesh ODI ranking is better than Afghanistan's. Both teams don't have to play a qualifier match for the world cup, while teams like Sri Lanka and West Indies play the ICC world cup qualifier. I guess the West Indies are already out of the world cup. I don't understand what you mean by underperforming for the last two decades.

Bangladesh Got its ODI status in 1999, and its current ranking is seven. Afghanistan is the 2nd team able to win a series against Bangladesh in Bangladesh, while England was the only team to win a series against Bangladesh (In Bangladesh) in the last ten years. You need to do some research, mate 

[Juggy777]

The summary is that Afghanistan without many of their top players were able to defeat Bangladesh, and that too paying away from home. Now they have the two match T20I series. Shoriful Islam played a large part in the win by Bangladesh on 11th July, but the batting collapse from Afghanistan was unexpected. For Afghanistan, their bowling was always a notch higher than their batting capability. And this is one of the reasons why they perform so poorly in test matches. Ibrahim Zadran and Rahmanullah Gurbaz are talented players, but they are too volatile.

I don't know which top players of their team are not played in this series. Rashid, Nabi, and Mujeeb are playing in this series, and I count them as the top players in Afghanistan. I knew Shahzad, who plays as an opener for Afghanistan. I don't know where he is and why he is not playing. Except for him, I don't remember other missing top players from Afghanistan.

Their bowling unit is strong enough to fight against a top-class team. Their batting line is not bad as well. They can beat anything on their good day. They have some experienced batters like Nabi and Rashid who playing for Afghanistan for a long time now.

Rashid Khan and Naveen-ul-Haq didn't played the third match, which they lost to Bangladesh. And at this point, Rashid is the dominant player in Afghanistan team (still agreed that he played the first two ODIs and contributed a lot). And Bangladesh was playing with a full-strength squad. Anyway, this is humiliating for Bangladesh. They have been defeated by a team that achieved full member status. And who knows? Maybe ICC is also taking note. Bangladesh has continuously underperformed for the last two decades.

@Sithara007 I sincerely doubt that ICC will make any changes that favour Afghanistan or dramatically reduce benefits for Bangladesh even post this defeat nothing really will change. Furthermore this loss might be a nice wake-up call for Bangladesh and hopefully they can start working on their plans better because they need to improve quickly or they’ll continue losing.

[Gladitorcomeback]

Bangladesh Got its ODI status in 1999, and its current ranking is seven. Afghanistan is the 2nd team able to win a series against Bangladesh in Bangladesh, while England was the only team to win a series against Bangladesh (In Bangladesh) in the last ten years. You need to do some research, mate 

Yes Bangladesh is very good team and they have very good record in their home ground. you are true that Bangladesh lost only two series in their home ground which can he check here. In these ten years Bangladesh defeated Pakistan (Currently Rank 2) , Zimbabwe and Afghanistan in their home ground series. Actually when  lower rank team defeat higher rank, it have very bad impact on high rank team especially when this happens in home ground. Afghanistan is working hard on their game for last two years and they played well in t20 cup as well as in Asia cup. They deserve to qualify for WC 2023 and they did it. Bangladesh should strengthen their batting for world cup as only three months remaining and current team performance is not good for playing world cup.

[Fuso.hp]

Rashid Khan and Naveen-ul-Haq didn't played the third match, which they lost to Sri Lanka.

Weren't they playing against Bangladesh? Or did they play against Sri Lanka before this series?

They have been defeated by a team that achieved full member status. And who knows? Maybe ICC is also taking note. Bangladesh has continuously underperformed for the last two decades.

Yet Bangladesh ODI ranking is better than Afghanistan's. Both teams don't have to play a qualifier match for the world cup, while teams like Sri Lanka and West Indies play the ICC world cup qualifier. I guess the West Indies are already out of the world cup. I don't understand what you mean by underperforming for the last two decades.

Bangladesh Got its ODI status in 1999, and its current ranking is seven. Afghanistan is the 2nd team able to win a series against Bangladesh in Bangladesh, while England was the only team to win a series against Bangladesh (In Bangladesh) in the last ten years. You need to do some research, mate 

Bangladesh's trend of improvement in ODI cricket has started since 2015 England World Cup. Bangladesh qualified for the quarter-finals for the first time in the 2015 ODI World Cup, from where the journey to improve Bangladesh's ODI cricket began. 

Super league tournament was organized between each team to play 2023 world cup directly where Bangladesh played 24 matches equal to England won 15 matches and ended their super league tournament at number three position in the points table then you have to understand how strong Bangladesh is in ODI cricket. 

That's why everyone is commenting on Bangladesh losing the series against Afghanistan because no one expected a series loss from Bangladesh. But right before the World Cup in Bangladesh, this loss will undoubtedly help to learn something good for the World Cup.

[Sithara007]

@Sithara007 I sincerely doubt that ICC will make any changes that favour Afghanistan or dramatically reduce benefits for Bangladesh even post this defeat nothing really will change. Furthermore this loss might be a nice wake-up call for Bangladesh and hopefully they can start working on their plans better because they need to improve quickly or they’ll continue losing.

Despite both the teams being full members, ICC has a significantly higher fund allocation for Bangladesh, when compared to Afghanistan. But if they perform like this, then there will be questions raised by the other member nations. And they lost the series to Afghanistan while playing at home. What will happen if they perform under SENA conditions? Fortunately they were not asked to participate in the ODI World Cup qualifiers. If they had participated in that tournament, then I am sure that they would have struggled against teams like Scotland and the Netherlands.

[synchronym]

Rashid Khan and Naveen-ul-Haq didn't played the third match, which they lost to Sri Lanka.

Weren't they playing against Bangladesh? Or did they play against Sri Lanka before this series?

They have been defeated by a team that achieved full member status. And who knows? Maybe ICC is also taking note. Bangladesh has continuously underperformed for the last two decades.

Yet Bangladesh ODI ranking is better than Afghanistan's. Both teams don't have to play a qualifier match for the world cup, while teams like Sri Lanka and West Indies play the ICC world cup qualifier. I guess the West Indies are already out of the world cup. I don't understand what you mean by underperforming for the last two decades.

Bangladesh Got its ODI status in 1999, and its current ranking is seven. Afghanistan is the 2nd team able to win a series against Bangladesh in Bangladesh, while England was the only team to win a series against Bangladesh (In Bangladesh) in the last ten years. You need to do some research, mate  

Bangladesh's trend of improvement in ODI cricket has started since 2015 England World Cup. Bangladesh qualified for the quarter-finals for the first time in the 2015 ODI World Cup, from where the journey to improve Bangladesh's ODI cricket began.  

Super league tournament was organized between each team to play 2023 world cup directly where Bangladesh played 24 matches equal to England won 15 matches and ended their super league tournament at number three position in the points table then you have to understand how strong Bangladesh is in ODI cricket.  

That's why everyone is commenting on Bangladesh losing the series against Afghanistan because no one expected a series loss from Bangladesh. But right before the World Cup in Bangladesh, this loss will undoubtedly help to learn something good for the World Cup.

The Tigers' favorite format is the ODI 50 over format, where the Bagha Bagha teams meet Bangladesh. Before the ICC ODI Super League started in 2020, participation in the World Cup was guaranteed based on ranking. However, under this new rule, the top 8 teams of the 13-team Super League will play in the World Cup. After the era of Mashrafe, the dashing opener of Bengal, Tamim Iqbal, started a great journey with the leadership of the ODI team. Apart from New Zealand's three-match whitewash, his team won the remaining three series in which the Bangladesh team whitewashed the opponent in two of them.  Before the start of the Afghanistan series, his team was ranked No. 2 and had a chance to go top. Bangladesh was at the top of the points table in the ICC ODI Super League while England was at the second position. So it can be said that Bangladesh's ODI position is very good. We who are cricket fans couldn't accept the game that Bangladesh played with Afghanistan. Best wishes to Bangladesh team for the upcoming World Cup.

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@Sithara007 I sincerely doubt that ICC will make any changes that favour Afghanistan or dramatically reduce benefits for Bangladesh even post this defeat nothing really will change. Furthermore this loss might be a nice wake-up call for Bangladesh and hopefully they can start working on their plans better because they need to improve quickly or they’ll continue losing.

Despite both the teams being full members, ICC has a significantly higher fund allocation for Bangladesh, when compared to Afghanistan. But if they perform like this, then there will be questions raised by the other member nations. And they lost the series to Afghanistan while playing at home. What will happen if they perform under SENA conditions? Fortunately they were not asked to participate in the ODI World Cup qualifiers. If they had participated in that tournament, then I am sure that they would have struggled against teams like Scotland and the Netherlands.

I think we can agree that Bangladesh is going through a rough patch. Bangladesh is a better performance compared to what they have shown in this ODI series against Afghanistan. Bangladesh has a lot of different problems going on in the cricket board. But we have to say Afghanistan did show good performance away from home. So there should not be any excuse from the ICC to not give them bigger funding.  But I actually know that ICC is going to give the excuse of Afghanistan being controlled by the Taliban or Afghanistan not having a proper political situation right now. But those are not acceptable, to be honest.

[Sithara007]

I think we can agree that Bangladesh is going through a rough patch. Bangladesh is a better performance compared to what they have shown in this ODI series against Afghanistan. Bangladesh has a lot of different problems going on in the cricket board. But we have to say Afghanistan did show good performance away from home. So there should not be any excuse from the ICC to not give them bigger funding.  But I actually know that ICC is going to give the excuse of Afghanistan being controlled by the Taliban or Afghanistan not having a proper political situation right now. But those are not acceptable, to be honest.

Bangladesh has never performed consistently ever since they received full member status in 1999. So it has nothing to do with "rough patches". In this case, their rough patch is ongoing for 24 years. And regarding the funding to ACB, ICC has asked the Taliban regime to allow women players to participate in domestic matches. They are refusing to do so and that is the reason why funding has been on hold for the last couple of years. CA and ECB wants the ICC to suspend ACB, but the Asian boards have prevented that from happening.

[noormcs5]

I think we can agree that Bangladesh is going through a rough patch. Bangladesh is a better performance compared to what they have shown in this ODI series against Afghanistan. Bangladesh has a lot of different problems going on in the cricket board. But we have to say Afghanistan did show good performance away from home. So there should not be any excuse from the ICC to not give them bigger funding.  But I actually know that ICC is going to give the excuse of Afghanistan being controlled by the Taliban or Afghanistan not having a proper political situation right now. But those are not acceptable, to be honest.

Bangladesh has never performed consistently ever since they received full member status in 1999. So it has nothing to do with "rough patches". In this case, their rough patch is ongoing for 24 years. And regarding the funding to ACB, ICC has asked the Taliban regime to allow women players to participate in domestic matches. They are refusing to do so and that is the reason why funding has been on hold for the last couple of years. CA and ECB wants the ICC to suspend ACB, but the Asian boards have prevented that from happening.

I understand that Bangladesh hasn't been able to progress after so many years since their full status but in this series, they were not playing against strong teams like India or Australia. Their opponent was the Afghanistan team and it was expected for Bangladesh to perform better against them.

Coming to the Afghanistan cricket board, if they do not participate in women's competitions, due to religious regions, the ICC should take this into consideration, and suspending the ACB is no solution.

[Sithara007]

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Coming to the Afghanistan cricket board, if they do not participate in women's competitions, due to religious regions, the ICC should take this into consideration, and suspending the ACB is no solution.

This is not a valid reason. Most of the global sports bodies are refusing to work with Afghanistan, ever since Taliban took over. ICC is an exception to this, as there is strong support to the Taliban regime from the BCCI as well as the Indian government. Having a functional women's team is one of the basic criteria for applying for full member status. Afghanistan was given full member status before they fulfilled this criteria. Now it is time for them to work on women's cricket, failing which the ICC should ask them to forfeit the funding. If Pakistan and Bangladesh can have women's teams, then I don't understand the issue for Afghanistan.