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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
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August 23, 2022, 11:42:32 PM
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Betting odds are out, we have a very intriguing betting spread in game 2.

SMB -4.5
TNT +4.5

It looks like it's screaming that we should take the TNT, with that, it convince me more that SMB will win in game 2, not only they'll win but I'm seeing an easy cover on the spread.

There is no question that SMB might cover the handicap. Besides, they were able to get a big lead over TNT as much as 15 points in Game 1. That can probably be repeated and this time, they will be able to secure that lead in the end.

However, TNT is known for not giving up the game right away even though they were behind by a big lead. There will always be a chance that even if they will be behind again by a big lead, they can bounce back anytime and even turn the table upside down in favor of them.
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August 23, 2022, 11:55:33 PM
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Chot will be out for 2 games, starting tomorrow for the game 2 and game 3. We'll see if his team will be able to win even without him. I do believe in the other staff that they can do it but without having their headcoach, that shall be a big difference.
Well, he should have just given up coaching the Gilas and gave the opportunity to the others and just focused on his team on the grand finals. No hate or whatsoever.

TNT win their first game against SMB this might the big advantage for them because we all know that SMB will not let TNT win the second game of this finals, for sure from coaches, fajardo and the rest of the team will adjust and have a good  strategy for this upcoming game 2,  and for TNT I am not sure they can win the game 2 because there's no head coach to teach a good play but anyway they have staff so maybe they can make it.

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August 24, 2022, 04:21:43 AM
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Chot will be out for 2 games, starting tomorrow for the game 2 and game 3. We'll see if his team will be able to win even without him. I do believe in the other staff that they can do it but without having their headcoach, that shall be a big difference.
Well, he should have just given up coaching the Gilas and gave the opportunity to the others and just focused on his team on the grand finals. No hate or whatsoever.

TNT win their first game against SMB this might the big advantage for them because we all know that SMB will not let TNT win the second game of this finals, for sure from coaches, fajardo and the rest of the team will adjust and have a good  strategy for this upcoming game 2,  and for TNT I am not sure they can win the game 2 because there's no head coach to teach a good play but anyway they have staff so maybe they can make it.

Game 1 is a lesson learned for SMB for sure if in case they will repeat that early big leads they will not let TNT catch and rally back, it's almost a win for them it's a lucky last shot from Castro that make them win, game 2 will be a test for both teams, though a reason that head coach is not there to balance the rotation is not a good one to hear if they will lose this upcoming game 2.

Whatever happens, just a good ball game without any injuries and any physical fight would be nice to see during these final.

Good luck to all SMB bettors. Let's hope they will play much harder today!

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August 24, 2022, 06:10:57 AM
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Betting odds are out, we have a very intriguing betting spread in game 2.

SMB -4.5
TNT +4.5

It looks like it's screaming that we should take the TNT, with that, it convince me more that SMB will win in game 2, not only they'll win but I'm seeing an easy cover on the spread.
Many are expecting SMB to come back after that devastating Game 1 loss against TNT that's why maybe that is the betting spread? Or not Cheesy.

Anyway, maybe it would be better if bettors will just bet during the game because there might be a chance that TNT will have a lead at the start and for sure, this will be an easy cover for SMB but anything is still possible. We might see a 2-0 after Game 2 but I don't think that SMB will allow that to happen. I think not having Coach Chot in Game 2 will be a huge factor on SMB's win. Yes we can say that the TNT still has other coaches but they are still different on how Coach Chot is coaching his players. I will not be surprised if this will end up in a double digit lead win for the SMB.

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August 24, 2022, 10:48:20 AM
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Anyway, maybe it would be better if bettors will just bet during the game because there might be a chance that TNT will have a lead at the start and for sure, this will be an easy cover for SMB but anything is still possible. We might see a 2-0 after Game 2 but I don't think that SMB will allow that to happen. I think not having Coach Chot in Game 2 will be a huge factor on SMB's win. Yes we can say that the TNT still has other coaches but they are still different on how Coach Chot is coaching his players. I will not be surprised if this will end up in a double digit lead win for the SMB.

Yeah, live betting would be a good idea if you don't like the spread because TNT at one time took a 7 or 8 point lead and the odds for SMB to win were above 2 at that time but then again it's a gamble that might not pay off.

End of the first half and the score is tied at 51 apiece and it seems to me that this will be a close game until the final buzzer so whoever got the positive handicap on either team might win their bets.

For me, I'll just pray that the lead of SMB would be 5 and above to cover the spread of my bet ticket.
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August 24, 2022, 10:52:55 AM
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Anyway, maybe it would be better if bettors will just bet during the game because there might be a chance that TNT will have a lead at the start and for sure, this will be an easy cover for SMB but anything is still possible. We might see a 2-0 after Game 2 but I don't think that SMB will allow that to happen. I think not having Coach Chot in Game 2 will be a huge factor on SMB's win. Yes we can say that the TNT still has other coaches but they are still different on how Coach Chot is coaching his players. I will not be surprised if this will end up in a double digit lead win for the SMB.

Yeah, live betting would be a good idea if you don't like the spread because TNT at one time took a 7 or 8 point lead and the odds for SMB to win were above 2 at that time but then again it's a gamble that might not pay off.

End of the first half and the score is tied at 51 apiece and it seems to me that this will be a close game until the final buzzer so whoever got the positive handicap on either team might win their bets.

For me, I'll just pray that the lead of SMB would be 5 and above to cover the spread of my bet ticket.

Plenty of things can happen in the second half, of course we are looking for SMB to cover that spread so that we can win, hehehe. Fajardo is trying to carry SMB, and it's going to be a big factor for TNT as Coach Chot is not around. So SMB really need to take advantage of it and not let go 0-2 in this series otherwise it will be a big hole that they have to overcome and it will be very difficult as TNT will have all the momentum then.

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August 24, 2022, 12:02:18 PM
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Betting odds are out, we have a very intriguing betting spread in game 2.

SMB -4.5
TNT +4.5

It looks like it's screaming that we should take the TNT, with that, it convince me more that SMB will win in game 2, not only they'll win but I'm seeing an easy cover on the spread.

There is no question that SMB might cover the handicap. Besides, they were able to get a big lead over TNT as much as 15 points in Game 1. That can probably be repeated and this time, they will be able to secure that lead in the end.

However, TNT is known for not giving up the game right away even though they were behind by a big lead. There will always be a chance that even if they will be behind again by a big lead, they can bounce back anytime and even turn the table upside down in favor of them.

SMB didn't fail us, they will win this game and will cover the spread.

looks like by just looking at the odds, we will already know who will win, SMB got this series even, so game 3 is very crucial.
Maybe the odds will be back to -1.5 SMB, if that will happen? Which side you will take?

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August 24, 2022, 12:21:13 PM
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SMB didn't fail us, they will win this game and will cover the spread.

The first three quarters, it was hard to tell who's gonna win. It was a close fight up to early of the fourth quarter. I really thought that they would not be able to cover the spread. Then suddenly SMB went on a run and the lead blew to double digits. By then, even with a mini run by TNT thru Castro,  TNT was not able to catch up.

Congrats to SMB backers!

looks like by just looking at the odds, we will already know who will win, SMB got this series even, so game 3 is very crucial.
Maybe the odds will be back to -1.5 SMB, if that will happen? Which side you will take?

Still taking SMB on the next game. Coach Chot will still miss the next game because of Gilas, and Coach Leo will surely take advantage of this opportunity.
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Still taking SMB on the next game. Coach Chot will still miss the next game because of Gilas, and Coach Leo will surely take advantage of this opportunity.

I will do the same, the momentum now is on the SMB, they have a big win tonight and that will probably continue. Mikey Williams was defended well tonight, he only managed to score 7 points from 3-10 shooting, we can tell that he was really struggling.

For the SMB, great game, they shared the ball very well, and Chris Ross though only scored 4 points but 10 assists is a great contribution.

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August 24, 2022, 01:02:27 PM
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Congratulations backers, I knew it, SMB would win and cover the point spread.

Now, going to the game 3, I think we can trust them to win or double if they'll lose. Such great chemistry they showed in this game, they really want to even the series and they did it well. As long as they can limit Mikey Williams, I guess their chance to win will increase.

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Still taking SMB on the next game. Coach Chot will still miss the next game because of Gilas, and Coach Leo will surely take advantage of this opportunity.

I will do the same, the momentum now is on the SMB, they have a big win tonight and that will probably continue. Mikey Williams was defended well tonight, he only managed to score 7 points from 3-10 shooting, we can tell that he was really struggling.

For the SMB, great game, they shared the ball very well, and Chris Ross though only scored 4 points but 10 assists is a great contribution.

Defending Williams makes SMB again in the dominating side, it was close and TNT manage to keep it till the last quarter but SMB move the ball well and like what you said they shared the ball and they keep finding the right person to take the shot; I like how Ross managing their offense and wow it was Perez and Manuel who leads their offense today 23 ad 20 respectively, and with Lassiter and Fajardo they really outperform TNT in this game.

Game 3 is still for SMB. I guess, though it's another bias analysis but aside from Chot Reyes is not around, SMB might already read how TNT rotates the ball they will keep abusing the weak side and will take advantage of each mismatch.

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It's a big win for SMB they guarded mikey Williams very well, as I said above SMB will revenge tonight because of losing their  first game and then this game Perez, Fajardo and the rest of the team defended the deadliest weapon in TNT which is mikey willams and SMB did it and win the game even though only nine points ahead but still they are the winner. Congratulations for those who beting SMB.

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SMB is really a powerhouse team that hard to beat in All-Filipino.

I tried placing a bet for TNT when they are behind by just 4 points in the 3rd Quarter as the odds during live bet is @5.5. That's a tempting odds. After SMB now push for a 10-point lead, TNT odds raised to @7 and but I didn't let my temptation to override me hehe.

Everything is close until the start of 4th despite it's only Pogoy who is doing good at the TNT. Hoping that he will have a good backup next game.

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August 24, 2022, 05:47:48 PM
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Chot will be out for 2 games, starting tomorrow for the game 2 and game 3. We'll see if his team will be able to win even without him. I do believe in the other staff that they can do it but without having their headcoach, that shall be a big difference.
Well, he should have just given up coaching the Gilas and gave the opportunity to the others and just focused on his team on the grand finals. No hate or whatsoever.

TNT win their first game against SMB this might the big advantage for them because we all know that SMB will not let TNT win the second game of this finals, for sure from coaches, fajardo and the rest of the team will adjust and have a good  strategy for this upcoming game 2,  and for TNT I am not sure they can win the game 2 because there's no head coach to teach a good play but anyway they have staff so maybe they can make it.
TNT lost and SMB won.
The game, maybe sort of close but there is still big points ahead. Unlike the first game, it's really a close one. Without Chot, the game ended and was closed by SMB so we're now tied with 1-1.
Those who have bet for SMB too, congrats guys.

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It's a big win for SMB they guarded mikey Williams very well, as I said above SMB will revenge tonight because of losing their  first game and then this game Perez, Fajardo and the rest of the team defended the deadliest weapon in TNT which is mikey willams and SMB did it and win the game even though only nine points ahead but still they are the winner. Congratulations for those who beting SMB.
That’s what we know about SMB defensively, they are able to execute more game plays and able to protect their lead, it’s a total team effort for SMB and still kudos to both teams for having a high scoring game 2. As expected, SMB won’t allot TNT to take a huge lead agains them, this is more exciting now to see them tied in the series. Game 3 will be crucial, and both team should learn from the previous games and adjust right away to take the lead. TNT should be more consistent and not to depend too much on Williams since he is guarded already.

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August 24, 2022, 08:58:29 PM
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It's a big win for SMB they guarded mikey Williams very well, as I said above SMB will revenge tonight because of losing their  first game and then this game Perez, Fajardo and the rest of the team defended the deadliest weapon in TNT which is mikey willams and SMB did it and win the game even though only nine points ahead but still they are the winner. Congratulations for those who beting SMB.
That’s what we know about SMB defensively, they are able to execute more game plays and able to protect their lead, it’s a total team effort for SMB and still kudos to both teams for having a high scoring game 2. As expected, SMB won’t allot TNT to take a huge lead agains them, this is more exciting now to see them tied in the series. Game 3 will be crucial, and both team should learn from the previous games and adjust right away to take the lead. TNT should be more consistent and not to depend too much on Williams since he is guarded already.
I follow the suggestion of one user here to bet on SMB in game 2 and if they lose, bet more in game 3 since SMB won’t allow to end this series without a fight, and they did a convincing game for then tonight and probably will take that momentum into game 3. Williams are still great despite of being guarded, Imagine it’s just a 9 point game so technically TNT can really put a show against powerhouse SMB. I agree that game 3 is crucial and having a win advantage can be a good morale booster for either team, waiting for the odds now for game 3.
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That's what I'm talking about, and even if TNT take a lead in the 3rd quarter, SMB didn't choke and just continue with their game. CJ Perez with big 23 points, and it was in the 4th that SMB pulled away, and the last time that we saw the score was close was in the 3rd, tie game again when Castro hit a jumper. But that is the last straw, SMB hit a 3 and never look back. And it's good that SMB cover the spread with some to spare for us.

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Vic Manuel returns to his Alaska form in Game 2, muscling his defender in the paint. He won't be called "The Muscleman" without a reason. He adjusted on that game and was given more playing time than usual. He doesn't waste the opportunity given to him and the result is good.

I feel exhausted watching Poy Erram every time TNT was on defensive possession. He is mostly the one assigned to defend all SMB big men, June Mar Fajardo, Mo Tautaa, and Vic Manuel. These three giants are hard to deal with. It's understandable that Kelly Williams can't match these SMB big men nowadays due to the fact that he is now past his prime and now in retirement age, that's why no help defense to Erram when one of these SMB giants attempted to do a post.

TNT Mikey Williams is really off-night on that game. Even though he is not guarded well, he can't really nail those shots. He can't find his rhythm. I thought the game will be close at the end but TNT lack some effort to do it. Since SMB is dominating the paint, TNT should do their way to dominate the rainbow area instead like what Pogoy did.

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August 24, 2022, 11:02:39 PM
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That's what I'm talking about, and even if TNT take a lead in the 3rd quarter, SMB didn't choke and just continue with their game. CJ Perez with big 23 points, and it was in the 4th that SMB pulled away, and the last time that we saw the score was close was in the 3rd, tie game again when Castro hit a jumper. But that is the last straw, SMB hit a 3 and never look back. And it's good that SMB cover the spread with some to spare for us.
SMB was able to limit the pass for Williams, they defended it well and it's good that Perez activated in game 2. Castro is quiet not consistent in game 2 though they took the lead in 3rd quarter, it's just that SMB are more determined to win and in 4th quarter, they pull away and secure the lead. If the same SMB will go into game 3, most probably they will win again, they have to stick with their momentum and do better again, will put some bet with SMB in game 3, I know they can take the lead.

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August 24, 2022, 11:59:13 PM
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SMB was able to limit the pass for Williams, they defended it well and it's good that Perez activated in game 2. Castro is quiet not consistent in game 2 though they took the lead in 3rd quarter, it's just that SMB are more determined to win and in 4th quarter, they pull away and secure the lead. If the same SMB will go into game 3, most probably they will win again, they have to stick with their momentum and do better again, will put some bet with SMB in game 3, I know they can take the lead.

I have noticed that most points of San Miguel Beermen were done inside. SMB took advantage of the lack of centers of TNT and they make sure that most plays will be designed for their tall guys. Look at how Vic Manuel easily can throw his hook shot because he knows TNT is not doing a help defense every time he will do an isolation play and post-up. JMF is also hard to defend that when he was about to double team, there will be other SMBs that will have an easy look.

The only way TNT to get an advantage over the SMB is to be better at the outside shot. They are better in terms of 3PT FG% over SMB. Even though Mikey Williams and Jayson Castro only have small production, they make the score close in 3 quarters. Need a push from them thru outside shooting.
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