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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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August 10, 2022, 08:12:45 PM
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TNT is very unpredictable, Magnolia cannot only stop Williams and expect a win because everyone on the TNT roster are playing hard and making sure they'll make a big contribution. Today, it was John Paul Erram who played well and help his team to dominate the Magnolia in a crucial game.
A win away to return in the finals but of course this is not the end yet for Magnolia, if they can be more consistent in the next game maybe they can even the series but we should not expect that much from them because TNT really dominates the series. Most of the players of TNT are doing great, from offense to defense that’s a total team work and the result is really good for them. TNT going to the finals is more exciting, hope they can finish the series in game 5.
Magnolia is able to limit some of TNT players its just that, many are still contributing for the TNT and this is a good team work which Magnolia failed to defend. This is a convincing series and I don’t think Magnolia can still go for game 7 here because that only means they have to win 3 consecutive games for them to get back in the finals and with the TNT as their opponent, It’s really impossible to happen but maybe luck is with them. Right now, I’ll place some bet for TNT getting back to the finals, the are good for this.

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August 10, 2022, 08:42:57 PM
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A win away to return in the finals but of course this is not the end yet for Magnolia, if they can be more consistent in the next game maybe they can even the series but we should not expect that much from them because TNT really dominates the series. Most of the players of TNT are doing great, from offense to defense that’s a total team work and the result is really good for them. TNT going to the finals is more exciting, hope they can finish the series in game 5.

As long as a team doesn't reached yet the required 4 wins to advanced, it's not over yet for Magnolia.

Although even trying to become optimistic about this team, it's clearly show they can't really match TNT. Lots of their players becomes inconsistent this series unlike prior games especially in the eliminations where Magnolia is even favored to win the championship next to SMB.

To bounce back, of course Magnolia need to change their game. I think they are just focus on Mikey Williams since this guy really carry the TNT without realizing that TNT is playing like a team and not as a one-man team. They are doing their best to stop M. Williams offense but his teammates are doing the adjustments because they are aware too that Magnolia will do that.

TNT vs Meralco would be a great Finals matchup. No SMC teams for a change. Smiley
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August 10, 2022, 10:04:51 PM
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As long as a team doesn't reached yet the required 4 wins to advanced, it's not over yet for Magnolia.
It is quite difficult to bounce back from a 3-1 deficit though. I do not know if there is a team from PBA who has done that. So i am considering this series done. Just waiting for which game TNT will finish this series.

TNT vs Meralco would be a great Finals matchup. No SMC teams for a change. Smiley

I also want to see that match up in the finals for a change but I have a bet on SMB so, no. Even with a horrible performance today, I know they can bounce back next game.
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August 10, 2022, 11:47:30 PM
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It is quite difficult to bounce back from a 3-1 deficit though. I do not know if there is a team from PBA who has done that. So i am considering this series done. Just waiting for which game TNT will finish this series.

I can't recall in the Semi-Finals but in the Finals, there's one team who is able to bounce back not from a 3-1 deficit but a much tougher 3-0 deficit.

All-Filipino Cup Finals between San Miguel Beermen and Alaska Aces. I just can't remember the year. JuneMar Fajardo is injured that time that's why Alaska takes that as an advantage and put the Beermen on the verge of losing at the Finals. After being down by 3-0, SMB managed to take the win in Game 4. In Game 5, the Beermen take the risks and allow JMF to play in the deciding game despite not being in 100% form. But Fajardo is really unstoppable and they are able to have another win until getting the championship at Game 7.

Can't be compared though to Magnolia as the team is already complete and they already gave their best against TNT but still struggling.
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August 10, 2022, 11:57:01 PM
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I was hesitant to bet on Meralco prior to the game. Their odds is @2.90 to win the game while SMB has only @1.4 if I remember it right. I have a feeling that Meralco will bounce back but I don't know why there's something that stopping me on doing that. What a regret but it's ok since we don't know in the first place what will be the result.

Meralco Bolts has an early attack did against SMB and they did a great work on putting SMB behind a big lead. But along the way, SMB manages to bounce back on the 2nd quarter and cut the lead to even 1 point. Meralco however bounces back at the half and repeat what they did on the 1st quarter putting again SMB on a big lead. They now maintained it until the garbage time and got the win.

Should be a choked game for them if Meralco loses that game despite getting a big lead the entire game. It's clear that they can take down SMB. No cooked  moments here but Meralco is just draining their field goals and that is something referees can't control. Smiley

And that's one reason why I beat on SMB because of that huge comeback in the second half. I have them at ML at 1.85 and I said that they have a lot of time to make a comeback in the 3rd and 4th quarter and chances are high for them.

So I didn't watch the game, and was quite surprised that Meralco on the other hand was able to maintain and then extend the league. If will be interesting the next game it will be an upset if SMB losses this series to them.

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August 11, 2022, 03:46:04 AM
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TNT is very unpredictable, Magnolia cannot only stop Williams and expect a win because everyone on the TNT roster are playing hard and making sure they'll make a big contribution. Today, it was John Paul Erram who played well and help his team to dominate the Magnolia in a crucial game.
A win away to return in the finals but of course this is not the end yet for Magnolia, if they can be more consistent in the next game maybe they can even the series but we should not expect that much from them because TNT really dominates the series. Most of the players of TNT are doing great, from offense to defense that’s a total team work and the result is really good for them. TNT going to the finals is more exciting, hope they can finish the series in game 5.

If both TNT and SMB manage to win their respective series, the all-Filipino finals will be full of excitement. The rivalries between these two main franchises of SMB and MVP will again bring entertainment to all the fans who still love to watch the PBA. Though it's not yet being concluded since both series are still ongoing but the chance to see these two dominating teams is really possible.

And in my opinion fans will love to see them both competing for the title, the challenges and the matchup will be more balance if the
these two teams will meet in the finals.

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August 11, 2022, 06:11:07 AM
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TNT is very unpredictable, Magnolia cannot only stop Williams and expect a win because everyone on the TNT roster are playing hard and making sure they'll make a big contribution. Today, it was John Paul Erram who played well and help his team to dominate the Magnolia in a crucial game.
That's the problem Magnolia must face right now that they are down 1-3.

They are managing to stop Williams but not for the whole game and in this series, he is more of a passer right now than a scorer and that's a good adjustment coming from him. On the other hand, you will see other players stepping up offensively like Pogoy, Erram, Castro and even Khobuntin which is a bench player but has been given that much minutes to contribute some to the team. Well, this is what we expect for the defending champs in the All-Filipino Cup that is being lead by Coach Choke. Ooops!! My apologies Tongue.

Now what will the Hotshots do that they are down 1-3. What are their adjustments coming Game 5 this Friday?

All-Filipino Cup Finals between San Miguel Beermen and Alaska Aces. I just can't remember the year. JuneMar Fajardo is injured that time that's why Alaska takes that as an advantage and put the Beermen on the verge of losing at the Finals. After being down by 3-0, SMB managed to take the win in Game 4. In Game 5, the Beermen take the risks and allow JMF to play in the deciding game despite not being in 100% form. But Fajardo is really unstoppable and they are able to have another win until getting the championship at Game 7.
It's in 2016 where the impossible happened where the SMB won against the Alaska after being down 0-3.
It's the first time it happened in PBA and that is one of the things that still didn't happen in NBA. A team down 0-3 winning the series. That's been written in the books for sure because they are the first team to do it. That's how dominant they are at that time. That's the time where the Death 5 (JMF, Arwind, Ross, Lassiter, Cabagnot) was on their prime years.


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August 11, 2022, 10:01:30 AM
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TNT is very unpredictable, Magnolia cannot only stop Williams and expect a win because everyone on the TNT roster are playing hard and making sure they'll make a big contribution. Today, it was John Paul Erram who played well and help his team to dominate the Magnolia in a crucial game.
A win away to return in the finals but of course this is not the end yet for Magnolia, if they can be more consistent in the next game maybe they can even the series but we should not expect that much from them because TNT really dominates the series. Most of the players of TNT are doing great, from offense to defense that’s a total team work and the result is really good for them. TNT going to the finals is more exciting, hope they can finish the series in game 5.

If both TNT and SMB manage to win their respective series, the all-Filipino finals will be full of excitement. The rivalries between these two main franchises of SMB and MVP will again bring entertainment to all the fans who still love to watch the PBA. Though it's not yet being concluded since both series are still ongoing but the chance to see these two dominating teams is really possible.

And in my opinion fans will love to see them both competing for the title, the challenges and the matchup will be more balance if the
these two teams will meet in the finals.

Of course, but all I hope is that JMF will be 100% and will play like an MVP so he can help the SMB team. They have plenty of talented players but do not have much experience in the championship, remember they lose Santos and Cabagnot and these two are a big loss, now, it's their time to prove that they made the right decision.

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August 11, 2022, 10:38:41 AM
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Thanks @harizen for updating the bets on SMB, looks like SMB is not yet sure will advance but TNT is already ahead with a 3-1 lead. I'm hoping SMB will win next game so they'll have a good lead and they might end it in 6.

We will find that out tomorrow.

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August 11, 2022, 10:57:24 AM
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Thanks @harizen for updating the bets on SMB, looks like SMB is not yet sure will advance but TNT is already ahead with a 3-1 lead. I'm hoping SMB will win next game so they'll have a good lead and they might end it in 6.

We will find that out tomorrow.



TNT might be able to finish the series but I'm sure SMB will go ahead in the series. The spread will still be high for sure, but I'm thinking of backing them even if it's high as I believe they will win by double digit. Not touching the Magnolia vs TNT game, it's hard to predict that game.

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August 11, 2022, 01:15:55 PM
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Betting odds for tomorrow's games.

TNT -3.5 vs Magnolia (o-u 185)
SMB -5.5 vs Meralco.  (o-u 195)

Any early leans here? I like to read some write-ups from the experts.

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August 11, 2022, 11:19:37 PM
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TNT -3.5 vs Magnolia (o-u 185)

Magnolia's keys to winning:

a) if they can work out to limit committing early fouls
b) a boost and adjustment from Calvin Abueva and Paul Lee
c) stop TNT Poy Erram's dominance at the paint

They are surely doing great work limiting Mikey Williams but that's it. That allows other TNT players to make that an advantage instead.

If none of those were done, that should be TNT -3.5 and will advance to Finals now.

Unless there's an attempt to make it to another game for much more ticket sales for revenue purposes lol. Just kidding. Cheesy

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TNT -3.5 vs Magnolia (o-u 185)

Magnolia's keys to winning:

a) if they can work out to limit committing early fouls
b) a boost and adjustment from Calvin Abueva and Paul Lee
c) stop TNT Poy Erram's dominance at the paint

They are surely doing great work limiting Mikey Williams but that's it. That allows other TNT players to make that an advantage instead.

If none of those were done, that should be TNT -3.5 and will advance to Finals now.

Unless there's an attempt to make it to another game for much more ticket sales for revenue purposes lol. Just kidding. Cheesy

First half and the score is 59-45 in favor of the Hotshots, though there's so much time left but if they continue on what they did, Magnolia will survive this one and we will see a game 6. There's a balance on the offensive output on the guys for Magnolia with Barroca leading the way with 16 points while Paul Lee and Abueva have 9 apiece.
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TNT -3.5 vs Magnolia (o-u 185)

Magnolia's keys to winning:

a) if they can work out to limit committing early fouls
b) a boost and adjustment from Calvin Abueva and Paul Lee
c) stop TNT Poy Erram's dominance at the paint

They are surely doing great work limiting Mikey Williams but that's it. That allows other TNT players to make that an advantage instead.

If none of those were done, that should be TNT -3.5 and will advance to Finals now.

Unless there's an attempt to make it to another game for much more ticket sales for revenue purposes lol. Just kidding. Cheesy

First half and the score is 59-45 in favor of the Hotshots, though there's so much time left but if they continue on what they did, Magnolia will survive this one and we will see a game 6. There's a balance on the offensive output on the guys for Magnolia with Barroca leading the way with 16 points while Paul Lee and Abueva have 9 apiece.


Hotshots won the game, they really bounced back, this time they made sure they will dominate TNT.

On the game 2, we have Meralco leading again, it looks like the same scenario in game 3, if they'll win this they'll be one win ahead to be in the Finals.

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TNT -3.5 vs Magnolia (o-u 185)

Magnolia's keys to winning:

a) if they can work out to limit committing early fouls
b) a boost and adjustment from Calvin Abueva and Paul Lee
c) stop TNT Poy Erram's dominance at the paint

They are surely doing great work limiting Mikey Williams but that's it. That allows other TNT players to make that an advantage instead.

If none of those were done, that should be TNT -3.5 and will advance to Finals now.

Unless there's an attempt to make it to another game for much more ticket sales for revenue purposes lol. Just kidding. Cheesy

First half and the score is 59-45 in favor of the Hotshots, though there's so much time left but if they continue on what they did, Magnolia will survive this one and we will see a game 6. There's a balance on the offensive output on the guys for Magnolia with Barroca leading the way with 16 points while Paul Lee and Abueva have 9 apiece.


Hotshots won the game, they really bounced back, this time they made sure they will dominate TNT.

On the game 2, we have Meralco leading again, it looks like the same scenario in game 3, if they'll win this they'll be one win ahead to be in the Finals.

Aaron Black is scoreless tonight, not good for Meralco, they needed him to perform but he was not a factor. I guess SMB has a great chance of winning this game, they will take the lead 3-2 after tonight.

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TNT -3.5 vs Magnolia (o-u 185)

Magnolia's keys to winning:

a) if they can work out to limit committing early fouls
b) a boost and adjustment from Calvin Abueva and Paul Lee
c) stop TNT Poy Erram's dominance at the paint

They are surely doing great work limiting Mikey Williams but that's it. That allows other TNT players to make that an advantage instead.

If none of those were done, that should be TNT -3.5 and will advance to Finals now.

Unless there's an attempt to make it to another game for much more ticket sales for revenue purposes lol. Just kidding. Cheesy

First half and the score is 59-45 in favor of the Hotshots, though there's so much time left but if they continue on what they did, Magnolia will survive this one and we will see a game 6. There's a balance on the offensive output on the guys for Magnolia with Barroca leading the way with 16 points while Paul Lee and Abueva have 9 apiece.


Hotshots won the game, they really bounced back, this time they made sure they will dominate TNT.

On the game 2, we have Meralco leading again, it looks like the same scenario in game 3, if they'll win this they'll be one win ahead to be in the Finals.

Aaron Black is scoreless tonight, not good for Meralco, they needed him to perform but he was not a factor. I guess SMB has a great chance of winning this game, they will take the lead 3-2 after tonight.

Black got 4 points i think in the whole game, i think he got while posting the smaller Enciso.

Fortunately the SMB Beermen survived that scare from the Bolts where they were only up by two points but the breaks of the game favored the Beermen. Just noticed in the last 6 minutes of that game, no Ross, no Lassiter, no Vic Manuel in the court. Is this the sign that coach Austria is preparing to transition from the Death Five to newer players?

Congrats to all backers of SMB, no problem with the spread as they covered that one and this is the first time also that the two SMB teams won in a single night.
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August 12, 2022, 12:09:11 PM
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TNT -3.5 vs Magnolia (o-u 185)

Magnolia's keys to winning:

a) if they can work out to limit committing early fouls
b) a boost and adjustment from Calvin Abueva and Paul Lee
c) stop TNT Poy Erram's dominance at the paint

They are surely doing great work limiting Mikey Williams but that's it. That allows other TNT players to make that an advantage instead.

If none of those were done, that should be TNT -3.5 and will advance to Finals now.

Unless there's an attempt to make it to another game for much more ticket sales for revenue purposes lol. Just kidding. Cheesy

First half and the score is 59-45 in favor of the Hotshots, though there's so much time left but if they continue on what they did, Magnolia will survive this one and we will see a game 6. There's a balance on the offensive output on the guys for Magnolia with Barroca leading the way with 16 points while Paul Lee and Abueva have 9 apiece.


Hotshots won the game, they really bounced back, this time they made sure they will dominate TNT.

On the game 2, we have Meralco leading again, it looks like the same scenario in game 3, if they'll win this they'll be one win ahead to be in the Finals.

Aaron Black is scoreless tonight, not good for Meralco, they needed him to perform but he was not a factor. I guess SMB has a great chance of winning this game, they will take the lead 3-2 after tonight.

Black got 4 points i think in the whole game, i think he got while posting the smaller Enciso.

Fortunately the SMB Beermen survived that scare from the Bolts where they were only up by two points but the breaks of the game favored the Beermen. Just noticed in the last 6 minutes of that game, no Ross, no Lassiter, no Vic Manuel in the court. Is this the sign that coach Austria is preparing to transition from the Death Five to newer players?

Congrats to all backers of SMB, no problem with the spread as they covered that one and this is the first time also that the two SMB teams won in a single night.

Meralco was too careless, they had two turnovers that was taken advantage by the SMB. Now that SMB is leading the series, I think it's very clear that it will be SMB vs TNT in the Finals.  Smiley You guys are so smart because you choose SMB and TNT on the betting.

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August 12, 2022, 12:16:36 PM
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Congrats SMB backers, hehe.. It's time to celebrate because not only SMB won, but they also covered the spread. Luckily Meralco committed bad turnovers and that's the reason why SMB easily won and covered. Advance congratulations, see you in the Finals soon.
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Congrats SMB backers, hehe.. It's time to celebrate because not only SMB won, but they also covered the spread. Luckily Meralco committed bad turnovers and that's the reason why SMB easily won and covered. Advance congratulations, see you in the Finals soon.

Yes, of course, that's a big win for them.

When SMB is ahead and playing a closeout game, they usually succeed because Fajardo gets better in that kind of situation. Perez led the SMB, and Cruz contributed big as well, if these two will play consistently, they will surely gonna win in game 6.

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August 12, 2022, 01:12:45 PM
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Congrats SMB backers, hehe.. It's time to celebrate because not only SMB won, but they also covered the spread. Luckily Meralco committed bad turnovers and that's the reason why SMB easily won and covered. Advance congratulations, see you in the Finals soon.

Yes, of course, that's a big win for them.

When SMB is ahead and playing a closeout game, they usually succeed because Fajardo gets better in that kind of situation. Perez led the SMB, and Cruz contributed big as well, if these two will play consistently, they will surely gonna win in game 6.


They can finish this series in game 6 unless the PBA needs more ticket sales, they can allow Mags and Meralco to win game 6. I'm not saying that it can be manipulated, but we never know, right? Roll Eyes Tongue But on the serious side, Both SMB and Mags really come out from the locker room with full confidence in winning today's games.

We have seen good adjustments from both their offense and defense, making it more nice to watch the game as they are really showing
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