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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
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Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
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July 26, 2022, 11:18:57 AM
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It's not going to happen, neither I do want him to return, It gives Barcelona the room to continue too build another era of your players. If Messi ever come back to Barcelona, it's probably going to be as coach or part of the board directors (I doubt he likes the board much anyways) but not as football player, the only problem is that he has just a year left of his deal with PSG summer 2023, he might move to England or perhaps go to South America leagues, If he has an incredible season then maybe PSG would offer an extension of the deal.
I'm just sure Messi will return to Barcelona not as a player but more likely as a coach or whatever. He may be able to join for free next season but only if he is willing to cut some of his hefty salary I doubt about that actually so there is little chance of seeing him as a Barcelona player again next season or the next.

PSG probably won't let him leave for free at the end of next season and it's possible that Messi will get another year on his contract before the end of this season. He looks more comfortable now at PSG and as we can see, Messi has also managed to score a few goals during this pre-season.

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July 26, 2022, 11:22:42 AM
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Just look at this! Barcelona are really close to stealing Jules Kounde as well from Chelsea's hands.  Cheesy  Fabrizio Romano said that the player is likely to be prepared to agree personal terms with Barcelona. There is still no update about the Chelsea side. It is just really difficult to understand how this can happen. I mean that Barcelona have like an unlimited amount of money at the moment. I guess that they will sign him for a price like €50-60m. Their financial condition is getting worse while adding strong players to the team.

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1551277706976829441?s=20&t=oit92R3ATVr4QUnMfVqKQw

Barcelona are out of control  Grin In parallel with the mass signings of players, a scandal develops with De Jong, who refuses to take a pay cut. They increase the pressure on him, but so far he does not give in. And I hope he doesn't give up, because why the hell is the club actually asking him for money to immediately spend it on new players? This is complete nonsense.

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July 26, 2022, 11:52:28 AM
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Just look at this! Barcelona are really close to stealing Jules Kounde as well from Chelsea's hands.  Cheesy  Fabrizio Romano said that the player is likely to be prepared to agree personal terms with Barcelona. There is still no update about the Chelsea side. It is just really difficult to understand how this can happen. I mean that Barcelona have like an unlimited amount of money at the moment. I guess that they will sign him for a price like €50-60m. Their financial condition is getting worse while adding strong players to the team.

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1551277706976829441?s=20&t=oit92R3ATVr4QUnMfVqKQw

Barcelona are out of control  Grin In parallel with the mass signings of players, a scandal develops with De Jong, who refuses to take a pay cut. They increase the pressure on him, but so far he does not give in. And I hope he doesn't give up, because why the hell is the club actually asking him for money to immediately spend it on new players? This is complete nonsense.
Yes they are very active in the transfer market and you are right they are out of control, I hope they don't forget something difficult that might happen in the future.
Regarding Frenkie de Jong, I also hope that he will continue to fight for what is his right. So that he can receive full salary like the beginning of his contract.

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July 26, 2022, 12:01:31 PM
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Regarding this, I think it is not only financial problems that are an obstacle for Barcelona, ​​but it will be difficult to bring Messi to Camp Nou.
messi and barcelona relationship is not very good after the departure of messi last year, i am very interested in the continued development of this rumour.
Messi is under contract until 2023 with Xavi already trying to bring the player back to his home as much as possible. Of course Messi can still be competent and develop, it is even estimated that Messi's development at PSG is not significant. Because Messi has to share a seat. The passion that Xavi showed really led to the return of the El Clasico era. I think the opportunity is still wide open.

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July 26, 2022, 12:16:25 PM
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Barcelona are out of control  Grin In parallel with the mass signings of players, a scandal develops with De Jong, who refuses to take a pay cut. They increase the pressure on him, but so far he does not give in. And I hope he doesn't give up, because why the hell is the club actually asking him for money to immediately spend it on new players? This is complete nonsense.
Things in Barcelona are very strange. Their finance is very bad and they treat to their legendary players very bad Messi ie. De Jong is not their legendary player but his contribution is big enough. They try to continue the drama of De Jong and at the same time signing contract with some players.

They just get 400M from television rights and are trying to spend it carelessly. A few bad seasons will put Barcelona into another crisis in finance.

Messi is under contract until 2023 with Xavi already trying to bring the player back to his home as much as possible. Of course Messi can still be competent and develop, it is even estimated that Messi's development at PSG is not significant. Because Messi has to share a seat. The passion that Xavi showed really led to the return of the El Clasico era. I think the opportunity is still wide open.
Messi will likely to come home, return to Barcelona if he feels peacefully here. I think he has this feeling with Xavi on the coach position but not feel comfortable with Laporta. Anyway, he has to choose and it seems that if Messi rejects to come home, this time, his chance will be almost close. His career is come to ending and not much time left.

It will be perfect for Messi if he can win Champions League with PSG and return to Barcelona. Then with that return, he won't get much need to win Champions League, as one of his biggest target in ending time of his career.

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July 26, 2022, 12:30:20 PM
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Regarding this, I think it is not only financial problems that are an obstacle for Barcelona, ​​but it will be difficult to bring Messi to Camp Nou.
messi and barcelona relationship is not very good after the departure of messi last year, i am very interested in the continued development of this rumour.
Some media said that if Xavi was indeed interested in a reunion with his former partner, but for now it might be difficult to realize considering Messi still has a contract with PSG, I think maybe the end of next season could happen if Messi contract with PSG has been ended, so far I did not find any problems between messi and barcelona because previously both parties agreed to end the cooperation due to barcelona financial situation, I believe it is impossible because barcelona and Messi to end their togetherness all this time, then there a problem between them,  and I think Messi will certainly never hate the team that has been making his name so far.

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July 26, 2022, 01:08:25 PM
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Messi will likely to come home, return to Barcelona if he feels peacefully here. I think he has this feeling with Xavi on the coach position but not feel comfortable with Laporta. Anyway, he has to choose and it seems that if Messi rejects to come home, this time, his chance will be almost close. His career is come to ending and not much time left.

It will be perfect for Messi if he can win Champions League with PSG and return to Barcelona. Then with that return, he won't get much need to win Champions League, as one of his biggest target in ending time of his career.

For a giant club like PSG and with superstar players, it's actually very wide open. But with the current rivals the Champions League is really a hell zone. Lol

Yes, the hell zone next season is perfect, how can not every club that is considered a giant take advantage of the transfer market to have a ticket to the Champions League early.

Barcelona for Messi can still accept if he really will restore his tarnished name.

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July 26, 2022, 02:13:08 PM
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Messi is under contract until 2023 with Xavi already trying to bring the player back to his home as much as possible. Of course Messi can still be competent and develop, it is even estimated that Messi's development at PSG is not significant. Because Messi has to share a seat. The passion that Xavi showed really led to the return of the El Clasico era. I think the opportunity is still wide open.
Fo now, if Barcelona bring in Messi, they have to pay him at least equal tih his salary in PSG. And, they must pay for players that already out with free status, and buy him back. Its remind me with Pogba, LOL. With current financial condition, it will be hard for barcelona to bring in back Messi. Buying him will be expensive, don't forget, Messi's salary also very high, this is a difficult decision for Xavi.

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July 26, 2022, 02:22:49 PM
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Messi is under contract until 2023 with Xavi already trying to bring the player back to his home as much as possible. Of course Messi can still be competent and develop, it is even estimated that Messi's development at PSG is not significant. Because Messi has to share a seat. The passion that Xavi showed really led to the return of the El Clasico era. I think the opportunity is still wide open.
Fo now, if Barcelona bring in Messi, they have to pay him at least equal tih his salary in PSG. And, they must pay for players that already out with free status, and buy him back. Its remind me with Pogba, LOL. With current financial condition, it will be hard for barcelona to bring in back Messi. Buying him will be expensive, don't forget, Messi's salary also very high, this is a difficult decision for Xavi.
That doesn't make sense to bring back messi to the camp nou. Barcelona still owes salary from some of its players. This club can't even pay them. It's still in debt as well. Even selling some players to bring back messi will not solve the problem.
Xavi has been making some big transfer like rapinha, lewandowski, kounde. I heard the rumour of xavi was also trying to take chelsea's defensive player (azpilicueta).

How can xavi bring back messi to the camp nou if the club still has financial debt?

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July 26, 2022, 02:30:03 PM
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Did I hear any rumors that Messi is returning to Barcelona? do you have this information?

I wouldn't want it to be an old heated broth, is there a plan to "use" his talent at best or is it just a marketing operation to capture nostalgic fans?

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July 26, 2022, 02:43:15 PM
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Did I hear any rumors that Messi is returning to Barcelona? do you have this information?

I wouldn't want it to be an old heated broth, is there a plan to "use" his talent at best or is it just a marketing operation to capture nostalgic fans?

I stink a lot of commercial operation

Actually I would prefer to see them (Barcelona) not return Messi to his home (If these rumors are real). I prefer to see them create the atmosphere of their own performance without any intrigue from the players that boost their achievements. Even though Messi is back, there is no guarantee for them that it will take them like a young Messi. I'm really annoyed to see the club still relying on one player.

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July 26, 2022, 02:53:50 PM
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Messi is under contract until 2023 with Xavi already trying to bring the player back to his home as much as possible. Of course Messi can still be competent and develop, it is even estimated that Messi's development at PSG is not significant. Because Messi has to share a seat. The passion that Xavi showed really led to the return of the El Clasico era. I think the opportunity is still wide open.
Fo now, if Barcelona bring in Messi, they have to pay him at least equal tih his salary in PSG. And, they must pay for players that already out with free status, and buy him back. Its remind me with Pogba, LOL. With current financial condition, it will be hard for barcelona to bring in back Messi. Buying him will be expensive, don't forget, Messi's salary also very high, this is a difficult decision for Xavi.
Messi's departure was not because he didn't want to play with Barcelona anymore, but he wanted to save the club from the big disaster that was being faced at that time, Barcelona was experiencing financial problems that made the club threatened with bankruptcy. Barcelona are not going to sign Messi now, they have to buy a player who previously left the club for free, that's obviously impossible.
Barcelona have to wait until his contract runs out with PSG in order to use his services again, Barcelona still really wants Messi in their squad, I think Messi arrival to Barcelona will materialize, moreover Laporta strongly supports Xavi intention to make Messi return to Barcelona.

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July 26, 2022, 02:57:47 PM
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Did I hear any rumors that Messi is returning to Barcelona? do you have this information?

I wouldn't want it to be an old heated broth, is there a plan to "use" his talent at best or is it just a marketing operation to capture nostalgic fans?

I stink a lot of commercial operation

Actually I would prefer to see them (Barcelona) not return Messi to his home (If these rumors are real). I prefer to see them create the atmosphere of their own performance without any intrigue from the players that boost their achievements. Even though Messi is back, there is no guarantee for them that it will take them like a young Messi. I'm really annoyed to see the club still relying on one player.
This rumor has been around since the transfer window opened even when Xavi was just appointed as Barcelona coach at the time and then it disappeared and now it's re-emerged, for me personally returning Messi to Barcelona for now will not be possible. Just imagine, with the many star players with expensive salaries in the Barcelona squad, it will certainly have an impact on financial fairplay. Even now Frenkie de Jong is required to be sold because the high cost of the player's total salary is a problem for Barcelona. Also, if we remember that Messi left Barcelona at that time the problem was about the amount of Messi's salary, even though at that time Messi had agreed to his salary cut but still it was not the best way for Barcelona. So, I personally would not believe about rumors like this, Barcelona is a crazy team that has a lot of debt but continues to form a luxury team, while the debt is not settled.

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July 26, 2022, 03:10:59 PM
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I think for now Messi will not return to Barcelona. Because Messi is very comfortable at PSG so there is no need to return to Barcelona and so far Xavi has also not looked at Messi again for the Barcelona line of players. And I agree more with what you said about having the ego to be special between the three players. Because for the issue of salary each player can agree on it from the start before joining, but as for being special at the club, I don't think it can be agreed.
I read what Xavi's answer to this, his answer was very clear, he said that now it's pointless to talk about it, since Messi now has a contract with PSG. Xavi just understands that Barcelona can't afford Messi right now. And it looks like they don't want to let him go so quickly from PSG, but it will depend on how he plays, how many goals he scores, because so far his results are far from expected.

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July 26, 2022, 03:26:52 PM
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I think for now Messi will not return to Barcelona. Because Messi is very comfortable at PSG so there is no need to return to Barcelona and so far Xavi has also not looked at Messi again for the Barcelona line of players. And I agree more with what you said about having the ego to be special between the three players. Because for the issue of salary each player can agree on it from the start before joining, but as for being special at the club, I don't think it can be agreed.
I read what Xavi's answer to this, his answer was very clear, he said that now it's pointless to talk about it, since Messi now has a contract with PSG. Xavi just understands that Barcelona can't afford Messi right now. And it looks like they don't want to let him go so quickly from PSG, but it will depend on how he plays, how many goals he scores, because so far his results are far from expected.
Aside the funds to bargain for Messi,  Messi's contract extends till 2023 when his two years contract will expire. If Messi was available in the transfer market Xavi won't hesitate to go for him. For now i think Xavi is conserving his comments and decisions on Messi's transfer back to Barça until his contract with PSG expires then they can open a bargain to get
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July 26, 2022, 03:45:31 PM
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Are there no great young players on Barca squad? Why not promote them instead of looking for players to buy?
Sometimes I wonder why these clubs have their young squad or school if they never use the players in the end.

Why do you have to buy?
Because that's the instant way to get great players in football. If a club buys a well-known and great player, there is definitely an added value to the sale of merchandise. You can't just hope in the academy, because it certainly takes time for someone to develop again.
Grooming player to become best is good but club can't depend on that , buying of player is important to strengthen the team , doing this can make the club to win trophies which can also generate money for the club. Club who sell their players to other clubs use it as a means to generate money for the club.  Clubs need money their are different ways they generate money to sustain the club.

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July 26, 2022, 04:05:44 PM
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Did I hear any rumors that Messi is returning to Barcelona? do you have this information?

I wouldn't want it to be an old heated broth, is there a plan to "use" his talent at best or is it just a marketing operation to capture nostalgic fans?

I stink a lot of commercial operation

According to what was reported in one of the sources I read, Laporta will do everything to sign Messi back in 2023 or when Messi contract with PSG expires. Xavi has also expressed his desire to return messi to Barcelona, ​​the good relationship between Xavi and Messi makes this rumor true, Barcelona is messi home, he will return to his home after his overseas period at PSG is over.

Barcelona president Joan Laporta hints at a sensational return to the Nou Camp for Lionel Messi

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July 26, 2022, 04:22:52 PM
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Did I hear any rumors that Messi is returning to Barcelona? do you have this information?

I wouldn't want it to be an old heated broth, is there a plan to "use" his talent at best or is it just a marketing operation to capture nostalgic fans?

I stink a lot of commercial operation

According to what was reported in one of the sources I read, Laporta will do everything to sign Messi back in 2023 or when Messi contract with PSG expires. Xavi has also expressed his desire to return messi to Barcelona, ​​the good relationship between Xavi and Messi makes this rumor true, Barcelona is messi home, he will return to his home after his overseas period at PSG is over.

Barcelona president Joan Laporta hints at a sensational return to the Nou Camp for Lionel Messi
For Messi, I think a short adventure in Paris will be enough until 2023. Like all the fans, I want to see him play in Barcelona where he belongs and when he comes, make the team champion in the champions league. When I think that Messi is in the current Barcelona squad, a great squad emerges, and of course, Xavi's being the coach. Xavi and I think they are very close, why not, he can go back to his home for the sake of Barcelona and Barca fans.-

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July 26, 2022, 04:34:38 PM
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I think for now Messi will not return to Barcelona. Because Messi is very comfortable at PSG so there is no need to return to Barcelona and so far Xavi has also not looked at Messi again for the Barcelona line of players. And I agree more with what you said about having the ego to be special between the three players. Because for the issue of salary each player can agree on it from the start before joining, but as for being special at the club, I don't think it can be agreed.
I read what Xavi's answer to this, his answer was very clear, he said that now it's pointless to talk about it, since Messi now has a contract with PSG. Xavi just understands that Barcelona can't afford Messi right now. And it looks like they don't want to let him go so quickly from PSG, but it will depend on how he plays, how many goals he scores, because so far his results are far from expected.
It is pointless to want back Messi in your team because he has already left to play elsewhere,and he is doing absolutely well at PSG where he is,the only problem there is that he might struggle to win the Champions league with them.He is focused on the team and wants to still stay at PSG for now,so I dont think returning to Barcelona is on his mind,and even if it is,do they have the finance to pay for his weekly allowance? It is something to put into consideration.
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July 26, 2022, 04:55:06 PM
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Messi is under contract until 2023 with Xavi already trying to bring the player back to his home as much as possible. Of course Messi can still be competent and develop, it is even estimated that Messi's development at PSG is not significant. Because Messi has to share a seat. The passion that Xavi showed really led to the return of the El Clasico era. I think the opportunity is still wide open.
Barcelona will definitely wait for Messi contract to expire in the 2023 season and they will automatically not spend money when sending Messi home from PSG. Barcelona squad is very good at the moment, it's just that I see their bottom line is a little weak. maybe this loophole will be xavi work on windows this summer. I saw that barcelona game was very good against real madrid they were able to make madrid players overwhelmed to stem their attacks.
 
Maybe in this week Barcelona will likely get Kounde signature because of some growing issues Chelsea have reportedly withdrawn from the hunt for Kounde signature.

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