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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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November 03, 2022, 06:57:41 PM
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I believe that Xavi has an advantage now as he doesn’t like the Europa league much, so he can totally prioritise winning the La Liga. Furthermore Real Madrid will be fighting on many fronts, thus there’s always a chance for Xavi’s led Barcelona to fight back and claim the title, but it’s not going to be easy and all their player’s will have to step up now if they want to win the La Liga.
A good coach won't consider any league or game not important .  I doubt if Xavi will see the Europa league game not to be important. If Barcelona tries their best and do very well in the Europa league it is an advantage to them.  If Barcelona don't take the Europa league serious it doesn't mean that will give them the chance to win Laliga easily. Not taking the Europa League proves sign of weakness.

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November 03, 2022, 07:38:21 PM
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I don't think that there is such option for Barcelona like not caring about the Europa League this season. They didn't care about it too much in the previous season because they weren't in need of a huge amount of money. But now they need to make money from every opportunity. Maybe the incomes aren't as big as the Champions League there but Barcelona had better fight for even the title to earn as much money as possible. They have made many signings by spending a lot of money.

Xavi can still focus on the La Liga title first. But he shouldn't just put the Europa League aside. They are technically one of the biggest contenders for the title. If they make a similar effort to the one in the La Liga then they can surely win the title also.

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November 03, 2022, 07:51:11 PM
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The Europa League still has some prestige, although most people are only interested in the Champions League. I also can't imagine Barcelona being happy with the Europa League, but apparently it was the maximum achievable. Once they're in there, they'll definitely take that seriously, but I think the focus will be more on the competition. I think the national champion of Spain has more status than winning the Eruopa League. Although the Europa League with the current participating teams is stronger than the Spanish league. Juventus has also been added. Those matches we get there could all be Champions League matches. Perhaps it is good for a few teams that they have now ended up in the Europa League, in the CL they were probably soon eliminated. I haven't looked at the odds for the winner of the Spanish League anymore, but it seems to me that Real Madrid are still the favorites because they have more points and also play a bit better than Barcelona. But in a few games, everything can just be different.

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November 03, 2022, 08:59:12 PM
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I don't think that there is such option for Barcelona like not caring about the Europa League this season. They didn't care about it too much in the previous season because they weren't in need of a huge amount of money. But now they need to make money from every opportunity. Maybe the incomes aren't as big as the Champions League there but Barcelona had better fight for even the title to earn as much money as possible. They have made many signings by spending a lot of money.

Xavi can still focus on the La Liga title first. But he shouldn't just put the Europa League aside. They are technically one of the biggest contenders for the title. If they make a similar effort to the one in the La Liga then they can surely win the title also.
It is precisely because they need money that they have to win the current competition to make up for their loss in failing in the Champions League.
On the other hand there is a threat from La Porta now because when Xavi can't get a trophy this season then he has to say goodbye to Barclona because it looks like La Porta don't expect them to fast for titles again now so they have to work hard to get at least one trophy there.

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November 03, 2022, 08:59:42 PM
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In la liga, there is basically just one thing that you could do and hope that you will be winning by the end of the year. You wager that Real and Barcelona will win every week, you combine the games into one parlay to win bigger, and then you hope that by the end of the season they had more wins at the same time then non-win results so that your return would be higher.

Some season that works very well (same with city and Liverpool works very well too) and some seasons it's not. For the past 10 years I have a friend who does it (I have been doing it very recently) and it did worked out for him like fifty fifty so far, not a bad method to gamble.

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November 03, 2022, 09:11:54 PM
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Also, regarding the next match for Real Madrid and Barcelona it is a match that they will certainly be able to win, moreover for Barcelona they can do very well in La Liga because they are no longer in the Champions League which has high prestige.
Because if for the Europa League it seems that Barcelona is not too obsessed but still, Xavi must give the title to Barcelona this season.
Unless they really don't care about their money then they won't see the Europa League as one to make up for the losses because we know that they are currently losing around 125 million euros in revenue due to failing to get into the knockout phase in the Champions League and of course as making up for that loss. they can get at least 20 million euros if they can become champions.
Very naive with their current financial condition and their target is the trophy to the exclusion of this competition.

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November 03, 2022, 09:12:00 PM
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I don't think that there is such option for Barcelona like not caring about the Europa League this season. They didn't care about it too much in the previous season because they weren't in need of a huge amount of money. But now they need to make money from every opportunity. Maybe the incomes aren't as big as the Champions League there but Barcelona had better fight for even the title to earn as much money as possible. They have made many signings by spending a lot of money.

Xavi can still focus on the La Liga title first. But he shouldn't just put the Europa League aside. They are technically one of the biggest contenders for the title. If they make a similar effort to the one in the La Liga then they can surely win the title also.
Barcelona have been poor in terms of performance this season and it comes as a huge surprise to me that after those many high profile signings they couldn't progress pass the group stages of the champions league and have to fall down to the Europa league. I hope they will be able to perform better playing in the Europa league this season. Hopefully Xavi won't give up on the Europa league and want to win silverware this season.

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November 03, 2022, 09:23:45 PM
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Barcelona have been poor in terms of performance this season and it comes as a huge surprise to me that after those many high profile signings they couldn't progress pass the group stages of the champions league and have to fall down to the Europa league. I hope they will be able to perform better playing in the Europa league this season. Hopefully Xavi won't give up on the Europa league and want to win silverware this season.
First of all, this season isn't over yet, so we can't conclude if they perform badly during this season.

I agree that they performed badly at UCL, they can't survive there and should play in Europa League. But they perform quite well in La Liga, they are in 2nd place and only 1 point left from Real Madrid. This is very much better than the previous season, they have a big chance to win the La Liga title this season. This never happened in La Liga in the previous season. In the last season, I still remember that Barcelona didn't compete for the title but they were competing for 2nd place with Atletico Madrid and Sevilla. The situation has changed quite drastically now. They already returned to the race for the La Liga title now.


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November 03, 2022, 09:41:13 PM
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I don't think that there is such option for Barcelona like not caring about the Europa League this season. They didn't care about it too much in the previous season because they weren't in need of a huge amount of money. But now they need to make money from every opportunity. Maybe the incomes aren't as big as the Champions League there but Barcelona had better fight for even the title to earn as much money as possible. They have made many signings by spending a lot of money.

Xavi can still focus on the La Liga title first. But he shouldn't just put the Europa League aside. They are technically one of the biggest contenders for the title. If they make a similar effort to the one in the La Liga then they can surely win the title also.
Barcelona have been poor in terms of performance this season and it comes as a huge surprise to me that after those many high profile signings they couldn't progress pass the group stages of the champions league and have to fall down to the Europa league. I hope they will be able to perform better playing in the Europa league this season. Hopefully Xavi won't give up on the Europa league and want to win silverware this season.

Poor results has lead to a news of Xavi Barcelona coach leaving Barcelona or to be scaked for Arsenal's head which is Arteta
It will take some scarifice and dedication else they will remain in this condition for some seasons until they are ready to win the league.
Handling the debts they are in had been a good hindrance to the growth of Barcelona this season, Maybe Xavi wasn't well backed
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November 03, 2022, 10:31:29 PM
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It seems the la liga is much easier to compete in for Barcelona because judging from their performance in the champions league it shows when it comes to the champions league level they are unable to compete against top teams from various leagues in Europe and for quite some seasons only Real Madrid have impressed me and put the league in top level in the Champions league.
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November 03, 2022, 11:54:16 PM
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The Laliga is no longer has easy and predictable as it was in previous seasons. Real Madrid are doing their very best to gather enough points which their performance in the league tell so much of the reason they have remained unbeaten in their last 12 matches played. The Los Blancos can maintain this 1 point difference till the end of season even if the Catalans keep up with a consistent winning streak. It might be more difficult for the Catalans to catch up with the Whites even with the 1 point difference

I think it is still easy to predict which team to win the La Liga title. We only see 2 teams competing for the title, other teams seem to have no chance. So, we can conclude that the winner should be Real Madrid or Barcelona. However, since Real Madrid seems to have a more established squad, I predict Real Madrid to win the La Liga title again this season. The next El Classico match in Barcelona home, maybe the crucial match that determines which team to win the title. If Real Madrid wins again the match, I am sure Real Madrid will be the winner.


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November 03, 2022, 11:57:30 PM
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Poor results has lead to a news of Xavi Barcelona coach leaving Barcelona or to be scaked for Arsenal's head which is Arteta
It will take some scarifice and dedication else they will remain in this condition for some seasons until they are ready to win the league.
Handling the debts they are in had been a good hindrance to the growth of Barcelona this season, Maybe Xavi wasn't well backed
It's not that it's not well supported, it's just that the supporters may still be lacking and also his experience in coaching is also not so long that it makes it a little difficult to build the appearance of the players in the Barcelona team. Until now I still do not rate too bad for Barcelona because the Barcelona team is still in a good order in La Liga and also not too far from the temporary leader of the standings.

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November 04, 2022, 01:12:13 AM
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I believe that Xavi has an advantage now as he doesn’t like the Europa league much, so he can totally prioritise winning the La Liga. Furthermore Real Madrid will be fighting on many fronts, thus there’s always a chance for Xavi’s led Barcelona to fight back and claim the title, but it’s not going to be easy and all their player’s will have to step up now if they want to win the La Liga.
All titles should be considered important now especially that Barcelona have dropped out of the Champions League. I really hope Xavi is really serious this time around in the Europa League while also staying focused on Laliga, and this will be very comforting to fans who are disappointed because of the Champions League.

This season there have been some very serious teams in the Europa League including Arsenal, Manchester United, Real Sociedad, Lazio, Real Betis, Ajax, Sevilla and Juventus. So Barcelona have to take the Europa League very seriously as an elite competition right now after the Champions League, they shouldn't underestimate anything.

I really do not see any reason for Xavi to even consider thinking that there will not be any problems if they do not capture Europa League title. If Barcelona is playing in Europa League and they do not win the Europa League title it would be a big shame for them. About Champions League, I think Barcelona fans are more likely to be able to let it slide because Champions League is obviously very challenging to win. But Europa League is not so difficult for a club like Barcelona. They should always aim for success.

Barcelona should try to win La Liga title this season at any cost. At this point that is the only way to justify the money that they spent. And obviously, they should think about Europa League seriously and try to claim it in earnest.

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November 04, 2022, 01:16:35 AM
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Poor results has lead to a news of Xavi Barcelona coach leaving Barcelona or to be scaked for Arsenal's head which is Arteta
It will take some scarifice and dedication else they will remain in this condition for some seasons until they are ready to win the league.
Handling the debts they are in had been a good hindrance to the growth of Barcelona this season, Maybe Xavi wasn't well backed
It's not that it's not well supported, it's just that the supporters may still be lacking and also his experience in coaching is also not so long that it makes it a little difficult to build the appearance of the players in the Barcelona team. Until now I still do not rate too bad for Barcelona because the Barcelona team is still in a good order in La Liga and also not too far from the temporary leader of the standings.

The team has done quite well in the home league, the La Liga. Their poor stats are also highlighted by high profile Champions League exits. Smug faces can be seen around European football following the teams that were eliminated from this year's Champions League, including Barcelona. There is no doubt that Xavi hasn't delivered what Barca management expects from him. Despite this, we cannot narrow down La Liga's success story. The transition from La Liga success to Champions League success may take time.

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November 04, 2022, 01:44:29 AM
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The team has done quite well in the home league, the La Liga. Their poor stats are also highlighted by high profile Champions League exits. Smug faces can be seen around European football following the teams that were eliminated from this year's Champions League, including Barcelona. There is no doubt that Xavi hasn't delivered what Barca management expects from him. Despite this, we cannot narrow down La Liga's success story. The transition from La Liga success to Champions League success may take time.
I am also concerned about Barcelona's exit from the Champions League this season, even though in La Liga Barcelona are not so bad and have often played well in the average matches they have played this season. So in this case I think it's definitely not worth blaming the coach who has tried to get Barcelona to be on a better path this season. Even though it's not just a coach who is trying to make Barcelona better, but in this case a coach like Xavi has always provided whatever the team needed this season.

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Campaign? Why and where do you see a so called campaign?
Do I have to define to you what a campaign means? Come on.

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I think people mostly look at their screens, see some games from the teams, know the players and their shape very well and then give their educated guess. I think there can't be much doubt that Manchester City has always been at least among the top favorites, but it is also a fact that the teams are very close to each other anyway. We don't watch soccer because one team wins 10-0 all the time.
Let's say what is happening in the Champion's league right now being similar to England being top favorites ahead of record Champions Brazil because of the media hype they have... Oh, well, at least England had some history from 1966. Let's use USA as an example. Do you see it making any sense?

Meanwhile, every success that Brazil tries to achieve. They just call it luck  Grin

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Real has had a phase where they really didn't play very well. Without the lucky punches it would have been over, but they got their lucky punch.
"Lucky Punch"
Some of you people really amaze me. I wonder if some of you folks even ever played football at a competitive level. This is no dice game, more or so if the winner emerges after a full tournament(s)

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20 years ago, Haaland and Mbappe would already be playing for Real Madrid together. Money changed a lot of things and it might keep changing things even further.
You certainly don't know Real Madrid's transfer policy was 20 years ago. Stop making guess work.

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Better season this year for Haaland or Benzema? I think Haaland, but might Benzema be the decisive striker in a game between them? Of course that could be the case, but if I had to choose (the billion dollars you know), I would go with Haaland.
Let's leave that for the end of season to decide. There are a lot of factors to consider, including injury.



Lol... Why would I not know a bit about Real Madrid's transfer policy when Figo, Zidane and Ronaldo played for Real in 2002? They have been buying the superstars whilst educating their own top players. Would the three have played for Real at the same time if sheikh or other business money (for example as in the case of Chelsea) had already entered the sport? THAT is guess work I would say and if I had to place a bet I would bet against it. Manchester City was bought in 2008, PSG in 2011. Mbappe wouldn't be playing for City or PSG now, not ever. Neither would Neymar or Messi. Haaland wouldn't be playing for Manchester City.

I am convinced that back in 2002, that is a good 20 years ago, there would have been a significant chance for Haaland or Mbappe or both to already be playing for Madrid. Not as a replacement for the aforementioned three, that wasn't my point. My point was that money simply changed a lot. We might see that again with Newcastle. How would your history argument apply when such a club wins the Champions League or the PL? It doesn't apply anymore, it's nonsense.

Real Madrid indeed has a history that they are still benefiting from and the reason they still benefit is that they are still sticking to their guns more or less and they manage to support their history and future with constant success. That is why the club is highly attractive besides the money they have. Money, which of course is much less than City (without history) has and much less than Newcastle (with a history) has.
WOW there is nothing else to say but that if it is the whole truth and you have summarized the history of 20 years in a few lines, I was starting at the university in those years where all those Madrid stars were, which for me are very great and I think it is really very difficult for Real Madrid to get another one like that squad, if Zidane managed to get together with Ronaldo to play together, that is equivalent to getting Messi and Ronaldo together to play, which, they became very good friends, this of REAL MADRID is impressive, so I do not conceive that PSG lose and are in trouble at times, perhaps the coach does not have very good expertise managing stars, even so Real Madrid now has the best team that if they are careless, they will come back to win the UCL and the League.

Anyway, Sevilla is already in the relegation zone. Do you guys realize it?  Undecided
To be honest, I am really surprised. How can Sevilla drop their performance very drastically?
I can't understand what's the problem of this team.
Sevilla's performance is as bad as cadiz. im not even feeling doubt if sevilla may be replaced by cadiz. Cadiz is a bit better compared with sevilla. that means if cadiz would be able to leaving from the relegation zone. Sevilla has been showing worst performance so far in la liga. I didn't see any problem with the club but it seems like the team itself can't played so well in this season just like another club in the la liga.
Shit! we will have another team to be dropped again into the relegation zone as soon as possible. What a worst season for sevilla.

Well, I think that you are not the only ones who are surprised with the behavior and performance so low in Sevilla, I don't know why they are doing it so badly, I can think that there are problems of all kinds, internal, with the technical manager, on a personal level, with each one of the players, it is something that is difficult to believe for this team, however we cannot fall for it like that either, I think that since Cádiz is a bit strong the comparison, Sevilla has a lot of quality and has done things well, but I think they are going through a stage like the other teams, which fall into depression or crisis and it is always reflected in the games, I hope they can recover.

I also read about this some time ago and it is reported that now Ancelotti thinks that Gabriel is the ideal replacement for Benzema.
Last season they were blocked because of Passport issues but at the moment I don't think this is easy either because Gabriel is still Arteta's main focus at the moment.
Real Madrid will not bring people who have immigration problems because that will cause problems when playing on the field, maybe Real Madrid will consider Gabriel if there are still problems then they will consider better attacking players and are ready to contribute to Real Madrid. It is not easy to find professional players in the transfer market next year because they have to find players who match Real Madrid's strengths and of course have to have a young age.

They don't have plans bringing Gabriel no, they already brought a young player from Brazilian league aged 18

If you notice Benzema is dropping form and due to injury absence, he apparently wouldn't be giving a top performance

It's wise they are creating a connection around young brazilians at goal, Vinicius, Rodrygo and .... Still haven't recalled the name
Well, I have a thought, with the money that Real Madrid has, it would be possible to find a Visa for any player, no matter where he comes from, and sometimes I have also thought that they want to bring only Brazilians, and I don't see that badly, Real Madrid will always bet on the youngest players and I think that is something they have always shown, for me the biggest contracts and the most expensive ones will happen after the World Cup in Qatar, we will see the players who stand out the most and it could be that many have that follow-up that Real Madrid does. however for now I don't think they are only interested in young people, for me benzema is still the best there.




It seems to me that an ex-Barcelona praises the good players of Real Madrid a lot:
Andres Iniesta calls Real Madrid star one of the best ever

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Iniesta recognises the greatness of Modric. As reported by AS, he said regarding the Real Madrid midfielder:

    “We are players with different profiles but at the same time similar in terms of position on the field, conception of the game, handling the ball… He is one of the best midfielders there is and will ever be. He is a reference for his team and it is not easy to spend so many years at a club like Madrid making a difference.”

Source: https://therealchamps.com/2022/11/01/andres-iniesta-real-madrid-star-best/

Poor results has lead to a news of Xavi Barcelona coach leaving Barcelona or to be scaked for Arsenal's head which is Arteta
It will take some scarifice and dedication else they will remain in this condition for some seasons until they are ready to win the league.
Handling the debts they are in had been a good hindrance to the growth of Barcelona this season, Maybe Xavi wasn't well backed
It's not that it's not well supported, it's just that the supporters may still be lacking and also his experience in coaching is also not so long that it makes it a little difficult to build the appearance of the players in the Barcelona team. Until now I still do not rate too bad for Barcelona because the Barcelona team is still in a good order in La Liga and also not too far from the temporary leader of the standings.
Yes I agree with you Barcelona is still far ahead in La Liga but we have seen Barcelona play bad games in few matches. I think Barcelona have played bad games due to their own mistakes and also we have seen Barcelona play well in almost every match. Barcelona is good club.  There are quality players and that's why Barcelona is so strong I think.

Well, I think that Barcelona has always been a very strong team and that has been shown, but that cannot be confused with the fact that at the moment they are not at the level of the best, so for me that is why they have relegated to the Europa League However, for me the only player who doesn't deserve to be there is Lewa, I think that's why Muller jokes with him so much, he knows that if he were at Bayern things would be different, for now Barcelona has to keep betting on winning, no matter what they say, but it has to generate good results, I'm not from Barcelona, but Barcelona is one of Real Madrid's best rivals.

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It seems the la liga is much easier to compete in for Barcelona because judging from their performance in the champions league it shows when it comes to the champions league level they are unable to compete against top teams from various leagues in Europe and for quite some seasons only Real Madrid have impressed me and put the league in top level in the Champions league.

Yes, Real Madrid are still doing well in this la Liga league competition and UEFA champions league competition too that made many people to believed that they will be among the teams that will qualify for final. I think, Real Madrid strikers are among the Pilar that made the team stronger in this season to improve higher in this la Liga league competition, because they have demonstrated well in some matches to embraced many goals that made their points to increase higher. Barcelona coach still need to work on their players in this season so that they can start withstanding on the top teams in UEFA champions league competition and other competitions too.

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Concerning Barcelona, I read that Pique gonna leave the team after the next game or the game after? Did anyone hear about that rumour?
It's real, not rumour!

Gerard Pique announces he is leaving Barca

Maybe he made the decision because he loves the club and does not want his reputation is destroyed there as well as really want to help the club to save some money (that is big enough about $80M). With the saving from Pique case, Barcelona will be able to sign a world-class defender in January 2023.
He was not even destroying reputation from barcelona. There's no need for him to stay even longer in this club. he has not even paid for this season and the performance club is also very bad at this moment. Barcelona already predicted will not have big income for the next season and he may not be paid again by barcelona. He is feeling tired working for free for barcelona. he doesn't even being included in the starting eleven. It's the time for him moving from barcelona then find a new club that can treat him better than what barcelona did.
He can only say thanks for barcelona for all of his memories. It's the time for him to move on.

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November 04, 2022, 05:59:45 AM
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Despite all these problems, I think Pique's performance is no longer able to compete with young players and Pique's quality has decreased and now Barcelona is no longer needed.
and it's true that after so long the many achievements that Pique made with Barcelona and the many sacrifices he made for Barcelona and shows that he really loves the Catalan team. but this is the right time for him to leave, he is a legend who deserves to be appreciated by barcelona with the many contributions he has made.

I think he has done well. There comes a time when you have to retire, because the years go by and it shows in your performance.

However, he has hinted that he will be back one way or another. His life is Futbol Club Barcelona. I think he will do like Guardiola or others, that he intends to return in the future as a coach or in some other way linked to the club.

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It seems the la liga is much easier to compete in for Barcelona because judging from their performance in the champions league it shows when it comes to the champions league level they are unable to compete against top teams from various leagues in Europe and for quite some seasons only Real Madrid have impressed me and put the league in top level in the Champions league.

Yes, Real Madrid are still doing well in this la Liga league competition and UEFA champions league competition too that made many people to believed that they will be among the teams that will qualify for final. I think, Real Madrid strikers are among the Pilar that made the team stronger in this season to improve higher in this la Liga league competition, because they have demonstrated well in some matches to embraced many goals that made their points to increase higher. Barcelona coach still need to work on their players in this season so that they can start withstanding on the top teams in UEFA champions league competition and other competitions too.
Real Madrid's front line did work well but they were supported by the good play of the midfield played by Kroos and Modric. This creative midfielder has always brought peace to Real Madrid's game and that is the lifeblood of their game. But Real Madrid's midfielders won't be around long considering they are also getting older, so Real Mamdrdi must start regenerating their players.

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