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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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November 18, 2022, 07:47:35 PM
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Yep. Atletico Madrid should have a chance to return to the top 3. There are still too many remaining matches, it is not something impossible to reach. However, Atletico Madrid competes with some teams that have a small point gap for that position. They also performed inconsistently, they often got defeated or got a draw result when they are against smaller teams. With this condition, I think it won't be easy to return to the top 3. Simeone must find a suitable tactic and improve the mentality of Atletico Madrid players to increase the chance of getting 3 points in every match. This is the only way to return to the position (top 3/UCL zone).
Back to top 3rd standing seems not any difficult yet for Atletico Madrid with small points gap with above standing team like Real Sociedad and Athletic Bilbao, just have gap 2 points its seem not huge problem faced by Atletico Madrid and consistency for every match later open back chance back to 3rd standing. But the usual place for Atletico Madrid is changed dominance standing in La Liga between Real Madrid and Barcelona, Atletico Madrid greatly benefited from being eliminated from the Champions League and did not qualify for the Europe League because they could focus completely on La Liga.

There are still many remaining matches I think have chance for Atletico Madrid not only back to 3rd top standing but also have chance destroy dominance 1st and 2nd standing position from Barcelona and Real Madrid.

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November 18, 2022, 07:51:13 PM
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Barcelona have a good chance to finish their missing for the La Liga title this season. As you might be knowing already, they have haven't been able to win the title for three seasons straight. They are finally performing strongly thanks to Xavi's arrival. Koeman's Barcelona were just a mess back in the day. It was one of the best decisions Barcelona made in the recent years.

I'm also aware of their weakness in big matches. But this is like this only against Real Madrid for now in the league. As long as they become more consistent in the rest of the matches than Real Madrid, they are still closer to the title on paper.

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November 18, 2022, 07:53:14 PM
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Yep. Atletico Madrid should have a chance to return to the top 3. There are still too many remaining matches, it is not something impossible to reach. However, Atletico Madrid competes with some teams that have a small point gap for that position. They also performed inconsistently, they often got defeated or got a draw result when they are against smaller teams. With this condition, I think it won't be easy to return to the top 3. Simeone must find a suitable tactic and improve the mentality of Atletico Madrid players to increase the chance of getting 3 points in every match. This is the only way to return to the position (top 3/UCL zone).


It's easy for them to do that, but it's much more that many fans expect from Atletico Madrid. They want Atletico Madrid to be a title contender with Real Madrid and Barcelona, not just to be in the Champions League zone.
They are also very bad in the Champions League, they are at the bottom of the standings and are unable to win a position at least so they can play the Europa League Play Off matches. How is it possible for a team as big as Atletico Madrid to only get 1 victory, while they are the favorite team in the group they occupy.

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November 18, 2022, 07:55:54 PM
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I'm also aware of their weakness in big matches. But this is like this only against Real Madrid for now in the league. As long as they become more consistent in the rest of the matches than Real Madrid, they are still closer to the title on paper.
With their destruction in the Champions League, this should actually be a good lesson for Xavi because if it continues like this then his chance to give the best performance will be eliminated by the fact that he failed.
Now is the right moment for Barcelona to rise and indeed this should not be wasted.
They haven't been able to bring the La Liga title to Camp Nou for a long time so now they have to fight even harder.

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November 18, 2022, 08:26:36 PM
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Barcelona have a good chance to finish their missing for the La Liga title this season. As you might be knowing already, they have haven't been able to win the title for three seasons straight. They are finally performing strongly thanks to Xavi's arrival. Koeman's Barcelona were just a mess back in the day. It was one of the best decisions Barcelona made in the recent years.

I'm also aware of their weakness in big matches. But this is like this only against Real Madrid for now in the league. As long as they become more consistent in the rest of the matches than Real Madrid, they are still closer to the title on paper.

This season Barcelona has shown improvement, Xavi has done his job properly. But to speak the title I still doubt it. Having a two-point lead over Real Madrid certainly doesn't make them safe. In my opinion, Ancelotti doesn't really think that something bad has happened to his team, but Los Blancos' troops are still very confident in La Liga and they will again take the top spot from Barcelona.

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November 18, 2022, 08:38:03 PM
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Barcelona have a good chance to finish their missing for the La Liga title this season. As you might be knowing already, they have haven't been able to win the title for three seasons straight. They are finally performing strongly thanks to Xavi's arrival. Koeman's Barcelona were just a mess back in the day. It was one of the best decisions Barcelona made in the recent years.

I'm also aware of their weakness in big matches. But this is like this only against Real Madrid for now in the league. As long as they become more consistent in the rest of the matches than Real Madrid, they are still closer to the title on paper.

This season Barcelona has shown improvement, Xavi has done his job properly. But to speak the title I still doubt it. Having a two-point lead over Real Madrid certainly doesn't make them safe. In my opinion, Ancelotti doesn't really think that something bad has happened to his team, but Los Blancos' troops are still very confident in La Liga and they will again take the top spot from Barcelona.
I am happy when Barcelona can again do very well in La Liga. With that, the competition in La Liga will be interesting again because it doesn't only show one superior team to win the title. Barcelona are eternal rivals to Real Madrid, so it's only natural that they are up there with Real Madrid. I hope this doesn't just last a short time, but they can improve and improve again, because if you see Real Madrid they are full of confidence and also the young players who are currently there are quite promising for the future of Real Madrid.

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November 18, 2022, 08:39:48 PM
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Yep. Atletico Madrid should have a chance to return to the top 3. There are still too many remaining matches, it is not something impossible to reach. However, Atletico Madrid competes with some teams that have a small point gap for that position. They also performed inconsistently, they often got defeated or got a draw result when they are against smaller teams. With this condition, I think it won't be easy to return to the top 3. Simeone must find a suitable tactic and improve the mentality of Atletico Madrid players to increase the chance of getting 3 points in every match. This is the only way to return to the position (top 3/UCL zone).


It's easy for them to do that, but it's much more that many fans expect from Atletico Madrid. They want Atletico Madrid to be a title contender with Real Madrid and Barcelona, not just to be in the Champions League zone.
They are also very bad in the Champions League, they are at the bottom of the standings and are unable to win a position at least so they can play the Europa League Play Off matches. How is it possible for a team as big as Atletico Madrid to only get 1 victory, while they are the favorite team in the group they occupy.

Atletico don't always have to get three points in every match because after all, their point gap is still very close. In fact, the points earned in fourth, fifth and sixth positions are the same at 24 points and indeed, when changes occur they can drop quite wide and rise quite high.
Anyway, Atletico just need to be consistent not to lose too much, at least consistently not to lose too much, which means the result is about wins and/or draws, and that will still be good for Atletico's position.

On paper, Atletico certainly still have a chance to finish in the top four, the problem of being a team in the title race is not too important because La Liga is a competition between Real Madrid and Barcelona.
So yes, with Atletico being able to consistently finish in the top four, that's already good for Atletico, and the chance to get it still belongs to Atletico because they are also not far behind.

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November 18, 2022, 08:46:02 PM
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If you look at their position, of course they still have a very big chance to return to 3rd place in the provisional standings. But in this case it is their form that has now seen a dip which is unfortunate for a team of Atletico Madrid's stature. It will be a big question why they are like this, and Diego Simeone will be asked the very first because he is a coach who manages Atletico Madrid directly.
Yep. Atletico Madrid should have a chance to return to the top 3. There are still too many remaining matches, it is not something impossible to reach. However, Atletico Madrid competes with some teams that have a small point gap for that position. They also performed inconsistently, they often got defeated or got a draw result when they are against smaller teams. With this condition, I think it won't be easy to return to the top 3. Simeone must find a suitable tactic and improve the mentality of Atletico Madrid players to increase the chance of getting 3 points in every match. This is the only way to return to the position (top 3/UCL zone).
In current season mostly Atlético Madrid style is exposed, so they are unable to have better results and now as they are still going with their old style they are losing matches frequently against weaker sides in Spanish League like from their last five games they already lost against Mallorca and then Cadiz and having draw against Espanyol even they were mostly playing with their ten men team, but they steal the one point from them which is surely the worst case for the team like Atlético Madrid and then having draw against Rayo Vallecano and having just one win against Betis.
 
With this all now time for having improved performance and change of strategy because if they are not going to have things like this then surely they are going to be in trouble because few teams are already doing impressive performance which is going to help them for holding higher spot hopefully after break we will be able to have improvement in performance.

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November 18, 2022, 08:58:09 PM
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Xavi got everyone he wanted in the summer (putting Barcelona in an even more difficult financial position) but Barcelona continue to lose every big game. What do you say if this continues and the result of the season is second place in La Liga again? Barcelona are on the verge of bankruptcy and I don't think they can wait longer than 2 seasons for a good result from Xavi. In modern football, this is more than the maximum term.
Well 2 years, does he have to go? So if he does leave, who will replace him? There are still quite a lot of opportunities for the League and UEL champions. So let's see.
Financial problems, this season Xavi is quite surprising. He shopped quite a lot of players. But I've read, Barcelona is likely to have difficulty paying players' salaries in the following year.
I agree that there are not alternatives right now, plus wanting someone to be sacked just after half a season (not even that much) he got the players he wanted doesn't make sense. He needs a bit more time, and that’s the problem with the football world these days, they do not give people enough time anymore, they just see this as an alternative to getting the fans out of their backs and fire the coach instead.

I believe that managers should be running teams for 10+ years if they are good enough, sure do not do that with horrible ones, but Xavi is a great manager and he deserves at least 2.5 more seasons to run this team and then after that time if he is still not winning anything then fire him.

Probably more than 10 years is a little bit extreme. I think every coach should be given a chance to manage for at least two seasons. After two full seasons, if he is still unable to make any kind of improvements, I think the club should look for other options.

Because nothing is going to happen if you keep hoping for things to happen as the owner of a club. And as the owner of a club, you need results, not promises.

So, I think if they give him a chance at least till the next season he will be able to bring in improvements and better results. A lot of people do think that Xavi Hernandez is overrated, but I don’t think so to be honest.  But I do think his lack of experience is causing a little bit of a problem.

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November 18, 2022, 08:59:03 PM
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I think there are 2 things at play. Real Madrid lose more points than last year, but you also have Barcelona, who have had a much better start this year than last year. Last year there was actually not a single team that could stay in the area. For a long time only Seville was somewhat close. The fact that they eventually even finished 4th indicates that the championship last year did not pose any threat to Real Madrid. I expect Real Madrid to perform better again. Barcelona have a Frenkie de Jong in top form at the moment and also have the future with their talents. At Real Madrid there is a different kind of team with more experience.
A difference will definitely happen every season and it's happening in the current season especially for Barcelona who are able to display a much better performance than before. Real Madrid is under a very big threat, of course, even now they have to be in 2nd place in the standings, 2 points behind Barcelona, something we didn't see at all last season where Real Madrid could comfortably be at the top of the standings without significant pressure.
In last season Barcelona were the on worst start of the season which give them shocks after shocks, so they were unable to give any challenge but in this season they have done good work before start and having spend good amount for the quality players which bring good change for them even Real Madrid is also on super from but now in last few matches due to injuries they are facing trouble which is surely going to be change after break, and we will be able to have the toughest matches for both teams because now these both will try to keep distance and have their strong grip of title which is surely not easy with most chances no other team in La Liga can compete with their quality and performance.

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Until this 14th week, there are still clubs that have not been able to taste a single victory, namely Elche. They are so pathetic by only collecting 4 points from 4 draws. 7 points behind Cadiz and Sevilla, and 8 points behind the safety zone currently held by Celta Vigo. Not only that, they are also the club that has conceded the most, so far they have conceded 31 goals. It's been a very bad season for them because last season they could have done better by finishing 13th. I think they will be the first club to be relegated this season.
There is no doubt about quality difference as many clubs which promoted have no enough funds which help them for having players who can give them better results into top flight, so they are suffering just because of this with most chances they will be relegated and drop again on their level with Cadiz which were also hardly survive again having no improvement and now at 19th spot with just two wins also not going to help in this season Sevilla is surely quality team but sadly after selling few players now they are at the 18th which is the worst case for them having just 2 wins from 14 matches giving all review about their performance and future even they can survive, but surely this could be good lesson for them as well.

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In last season Barcelona were the on worst start of the season which give them shocks after shocks, so they were unable to give any challenge but in this season they have done good work before start and having spend good amount for the quality players.
Xavi's proposal was approved by the Barcelona management, and as a result 7 new experienced players have landed in the Barcelona squad this season. 4 defenders, 1 midfielder, 1 winger, 1 striker is proof that Barcelona fully supports Xavi this season. In Laliga Barcelona performed very well and they were ahead of Real Madrid, but unfortunately Barcelona failed to qualify for the Champions League after Inter and Bayern Munich secured a place in the last 16.

In my opinion, Barcelona is still in the process of returning to its former glory. Xavi has a role play in the long term, but people always expect it to return instantly even in his second season at the moment.

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November 18, 2022, 09:17:19 PM
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It must be already obvious to Atletico Madrid board that the team need significant changes. It should be with the game plan and strategies because I believe they already have a solid squad that can be in the title race normally. They have really talented and experienced players in the squad at the same time but they just can't take advantage of it. Simeone's usual strategies are obsolete from now on. He needs to try something new or give up already. I respect his successes with Atletico Madrid for many years but it might be time for him to leave his job to another manager.

I believe this team deserve to play more attacking focused rather than being cautious. They shouldn't just focus on keeping a 1-0 score advantage for example. They need to fight more and more. They have capable players to do this.

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November 18, 2022, 09:24:38 PM
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Barcelona have a good chance to finish their missing for the La Liga title this season. As you might be knowing already, they have haven't been able to win the title for three seasons straight. They are finally performing strongly thanks to Xavi's arrival. Koeman's Barcelona were just a mess back in the day. It was one of the best decisions Barcelona made in the recent years.

I'm also aware of their weakness in big matches. But this is like this only against Real Madrid for now in the league. As long as they become more consistent in the rest of the matches than Real Madrid, they are still closer to the title on paper.

This season Barcelona has shown improvement, Xavi has done his job properly. But to speak the title I still doubt it. Having a two-point lead over Real Madrid certainly doesn't make them safe. In my opinion, Ancelotti doesn't really think that something bad has happened to his team, but Los Blancos' troops are still very confident in La Liga and they will again take the top spot from Barcelona.
And i don't think it will be easy for the Los Blancos either. All i see is a fierce battle between the two long lasting rivals. This will be a challenge for Xavi to bring the Laliga trophy back to Camp Nou, It will be a struggle to end the three season without a title. Even if Real Madrid ends up winning the season again it won't be as easy as it was last season where the won the league with 13 points ahead of Barcelona.
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November 18, 2022, 09:40:20 PM
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It's easy for them to do that, but it's much more that many fans expect from Atletico Madrid. They want Atletico Madrid to be a title contender with Real Madrid and Barcelona, not just to be in the Champions League zone.
Easy to do what? Return to 3rd place? It won't be easy, mate. Just look at there are some teams as the competitors for the 3rd place. Real Sociedad, Athletic Club, Real Betis, and Osasuna have points that are almost the same as Atletico Madrid. Real Sociedad has bigger points than Atletico Madrid. Because Atletico Madrid is no longer a strong team this season, it is hard to win every match. If they can get full points constantly, Atletico Madrid may be out of the top 5 and more difficult to return to the top 3.

They are also very bad in the Champions League, they are at the bottom of the standings and are unable to win a position at least so they can play the Europa League Play Off matches. How is it possible for a team as big as Atletico Madrid to only get 1 victory, while they are the favorite team in the group they occupy.
Since Atletico is not a strong team this season, it is not surprising that they are eliminated from UCL. I am also not sure that they can have a better result when they played in Europa League.


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November 18, 2022, 09:42:16 PM
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It must be already obvious to Atletico Madrid board that the team need significant changes. It should be with the game plan and strategies because I believe they already have a solid squad that can be in the title race normally. They have really talented and experienced players in the squad at the same time but they just can't take advantage of it. Simeone's usual strategies are obsolete from now on. He needs to try something new or give up already. I respect his successes with Atletico Madrid for many years but it might be time for him to leave his job to another manager.

I believe this team deserve to play more attacking focused rather than being cautious. They shouldn't just focus on keeping a 1-0 score advantage for example. They need to fight more and more. They have capable players to do this.

This is you indirectly saying that Atletico Madrid needs a new coach; which i definitely agree with. If the Atletico Madrid board wants to change the game plan and strategiss of the team and get good results; then the first step is to get a modern competent coach; one that can build the attacking strengths of the Atletico Madrid side.
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It's easy for them to do that, but it's much more that many fans expect from Atletico Madrid. They want Atletico Madrid to be a title contender with Real Madrid and Barcelona, not just to be in the Champions League zone.
Easy to do what? Return to 3rd place? It won't be easy, mate. Just look at there are some teams as the competitors for the 3rd place. Real Sociedad, Athletic Club, Real Betis, and Osasuna have points that are almost the same as Atletico Madrid. Real Sociedad has bigger points than Atletico Madrid. Because Atletico Madrid is no longer a strong team this season, it is hard to win every match. If they can get full points constantly, Atletico Madrid may be out of the top 5 and more difficult to return to the top 3.

I think this season is important just to play to the end, maybe you should not think about the place... They need to change coaches and they will do it, the only question is when it will be in the winter or summer. If you think about it, Barseleona were in the same position before Xavi came in, but they got out in second place, but it was very hard...

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November 18, 2022, 09:54:37 PM
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And i don't think it will be easy for the Los Blancos either. All i see is a fierce battle between the two long lasting rivals. This will be a challenge for Xavi to bring the Laliga trophy back to Camp Nou, It will be a struggle to end the three season without a title. Even if Real Madrid ends up winning the season again it won't be as easy as it was last season where the won the league with 13 points ahead of Barcelona.
Xavi's struggle to make Barcelona grow strong again was very hard. He had a lot of homework to do and also various problems he had to fix at the club. If Barcelona loses, then Xavi will feel very responsible for the defeat. On the other hand, they have actually struggled a lot. Xavi's failure to take Barcelona to round 16 in the UCL must have hit them hard. Therefore, I am sure that they will not give up the La Liga title to another team. It's not easy, but they must always win in every match to continue to be in the first place. Moreover, they have a good momentum to win the La Liga title now, so they must be very motivated to maintain their good performance.


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November 18, 2022, 09:56:06 PM
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This is you indirectly saying that Atletico Madrid needs a new coach; which i definitely agree with. If the Atletico Madrid board wants to change the game plan and strategiss of the team and get good results; then the first step is to get a modern competent coach; one that can build the attacking strengths of the Atletico Madrid side.
It won't be easy, you have to know the character of Atletico Madrid's players at the moment and so if they change coach then I have to agree that a big overhaul will also have to be done. Simeone has a strong character regarding physical play and defensive strength, but this season has not been smooth for him due to tough competition in Laliga and the Champions League.

Simeone needs to build up the confidence of his players better because so far their forwards haven't been as good as expected. Nunez is even better for the character of Atletico Madrid than Liverpool, in my opinion.

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In last season Barcelona were the on worst start of the season which give them shocks after shocks, so they were unable to give any challenge but in this season they have done good work before start and having spend good amount for the quality players.
Xavi's proposal was approved by the Barcelona management, and as a result 7 new experienced players have landed in the Barcelona squad this season. 4 defenders, 1 midfielder, 1 winger, 1 striker is proof that Barcelona fully supports Xavi this season. In Laliga Barcelona performed very well and they were ahead of Real Madrid, but unfortunately Barcelona failed to qualify for the Champions League after Inter and Bayern Munich secured a place in the last 16.

In my opinion, Barcelona is still in the process of returning to its former glory. Xavi has a role play in the long term, but people always expect it to return instantly even in his second season at the moment.
At the moment, indeed, everyone still believes enough in Xavi and with the leadership he has provided so that Laporta continues to supply what Xavi needs. And this must be answered with achievement, of course because with the amount of expenditure and sacrifices made there must be a surplus so that they continue to support them financially. On the other hand, this is also another convenience for Xavi when he has the full trust of the club and it's not very good if this trust is just wasted.

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