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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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November 18, 2022, 02:31:21 PM
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Apart from that, the cohesiveness of the players in carrying out the strategy of the coach is also very much needed, because it will be very useless if the players are good and good but cannot be relied upon in terms of working together very compactly in their squad in every match, any competition trophy will never be obtained. by team. Because in a team squad you are not required to show more emotion and selfishness by wanting to score more goals without wanting to share with your friends in the same team.
Soccer games do have to use strategy and good teamwork to create cohesiveness and it will be easy to get goals, if you can't work in a team properly and have a very high selfish nature it won't create victory and it will definitely be difficult to score goals.

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November 18, 2022, 02:50:05 PM
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Apart from that, the cohesiveness of the players in carrying out the strategy of the coach is also very much needed, because it will be very useless if the players are good and good but cannot be relied upon in terms of working together very compactly in their squad in every match, any competition trophy will never be obtained. by team. Because in a team squad you are not required to show more emotion and selfishness by wanting to score more goals without wanting to share with your friends in the same team.
Soccer games do have to use strategy and good teamwork to create cohesiveness and it will be easy to get goals, if you can't work in a team properly and have a very high selfish nature it won't create victory and it will definitely be difficult to score goals.
That is a basic problem that everyone knows that teamwork will determine how they perform in the field. The better they are in cooperation, the greater their chances of winning the game. And conversely, no matter how good a player is but they don't have a team with good cooperation, it will be more difficult for them to win the game. When playing on the field, then everything is one unit that cannot be separated. They have to become one body in which they have an attachment to each other and also they have to get rid of all bad attitudes, such as selfishness.

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November 18, 2022, 03:00:03 PM
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It isn't even the key for Atletico Madrid to sign a ton of awesome offensive players. As you just said Simeone's style to let his squad play is quite unorthodox. It is not even only about a strong defense, but about destroying the game of the opponent in many unattractive ways from a fan's point of view. Atletico is the team that took it to the limit to foul the opponent and take time off the clock. Sometime watching them play in important and interesting games almost hurt my eyes... But they have been successful, that's a fact, for quite some time. They just needed that one strike and won the game by their questionable tactics. Now a lot of teams got used to that and I also think that after some time a coach just can't infuse the same energy into a club anymore.
Diego simeon have been with Athletico management for a lengthy time and knows how to operates in the club. He knows the type of players he needs and the ones he doesn't need, Simeon pattern of game is highly defensive pattern and therefore he has you defenders in his squad. Athletico madrid among one of the best teams in the laliga, not an easy job competiting with real madrid and Barcelona for the trophy.

But bad luck always comes to Diego Simeone who has always failed in several years ago in several Champions League Finals at that time with Real Madrid, at least giving a record for their experience, but the record they achieved in the five matches before the international break began, they only won 1 match, two defeats and 2 draws, of course that is not a good achievement for a club like Atlético Madrid, of course Diego Simeone must add ammunition when the market window opens in January, to improve the game that was previously bad...

But at least Atletico Madrid is only 2 points away from third place in the Real Sociedad standings. It is not too difficult for Atletico Madrid to catch up and again take over the the top three positions in the standings, which is one of Atletico Madrid's targets this season. I agree, Atletico Madrid needs to add a few players to help strengthen Diego Simeone's main squad

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November 18, 2022, 03:47:21 PM
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Until this 14th week, there are still clubs that have not been able to taste a single victory, namely Elche. They are so pathetic by only collecting 4 points from 4 draws. 7 points behind Cadiz and Sevilla, and 8 points behind the safety zone currently held by Celta Vigo. Not only that, they are also the club that has conceded the most, so far they have conceded 31 goals. It's been a very bad season for them because last season they could have done better by finishing 13th. I think they will be the first club to be relegated this season.

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November 18, 2022, 05:17:05 PM
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But at least Atletico Madrid is only 2 points away from third place in the Real Sociedad standings. It is not too difficult for Atletico Madrid to catch up and again take over the the top three positions in the standings, which is one of Atletico Madrid's targets this season. I agree, Atletico Madrid needs to add a few players to help strengthen Diego Simeone's main squad
If you look at their position, of course they still have a very big chance to return to 3rd place in the provisional standings. But in this case it is their form that has now seen a dip which is unfortunate for a team of Atletico Madrid's stature. It will be a big question why they are like this, and Diego Simeone will be asked the very first because he is a coach who manages Atletico Madrid directly. As a result, there is a lot of pressure on him now, and he even heard bad news because he was considered unable to handle Atletico Madrid.

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November 18, 2022, 05:41:27 PM
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Real Madrid seem to have a vulnerability in this season just as Barcelona. But Barcelona's vulnerability is not as serious as theirs actually. Because Barcelona are unsuccessful against top teams this season but they have had this against only Real Madrid in the league. They are still doing great in the rest of their matches which helped them reach the first place in the standings. But Real Madrid have a problem like they lose points easily against some much weaker opponents. This is a significant weakness and it can cost them the title too.

I know that it is still early for deciding upon the winner of the title. I just wanted to point out that Ancelotti should focus on the concentration level of his player in this kind of matches not to get away from Barcelona in the standings.

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November 18, 2022, 05:46:52 PM
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Until this 14th week, there are still clubs that have not been able to taste a single victory, namely Elche. They are so pathetic by only collecting 4 points from 4 draws. 7 points behind Cadiz and Sevilla, and 8 points behind the safety zone currently held by Celta Vigo. Not only that, they are also the club that has conceded the most, so far they have conceded 31 goals. It's been a very bad season for them because last season they could have done better by finishing 13th. I think they will be the first club to be relegated this season.
There has to be some teams like that. I am not saying that they have to not have any wins at all, but there needs to be some pathetic clubs every season so that we would have a last.

Most of the time teams know when it’s their season to be like that, they usually have such a huge financial trouble that they cannot build a team that would survive the league, they build a team of young players and veterans who would play for cheap and just go for the best they can do, and hope that they can save some money for next season when they are relegated. And it does work out well for some, because they may end up with some money and just go back to la liga a year later.

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November 18, 2022, 05:51:54 PM
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I think there are 2 things at play. Real Madrid lose more points than last year, but you also have Barcelona, who have had a much better start this year than last year. Last year there was actually not a single team that could stay in the area. For a long time only Seville was somewhat close. The fact that they eventually even finished 4th indicates that the championship last year did not pose any threat to Real Madrid. I expect Real Madrid to perform better again. Barcelona have a Frenkie de Jong in top form at the moment and also have the future with their talents. At Real Madrid there is a different kind of team with more experience.

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November 18, 2022, 05:57:16 PM
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Judging by the statistics, the 0-0 result at the previous World Cup only happened once. I don't know if the differences in strength were less then, but there are always 50-50 matches at a World Cup. It is therefore likely that there will be fewer draws. I myself thought that we would often see the result 0-0 and especially 1-1. Everyone is looking forward to the Germany v Spain match. It's not just about group win, but if I'm right, the number 2 will play against the number 1 from the group of France in the next round. Not a pleasant draw for either team.

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November 18, 2022, 05:58:45 PM
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Real Madrid seem to have a vulnerability in this season just as Barcelona. But Barcelona's vulnerability is not as serious as theirs actually. Because Barcelona are unsuccessful against top teams this season but they have had this against only Real Madrid in the league. They are still doing great in the rest of their matches which helped them reach the first place in the standings. But Real Madrid have a problem like they lose points easily against some much weaker opponents. This is a significant weakness and it can cost them the title too.

I know that it is still early for deciding upon the winner of the title. I just wanted to point out that Ancelotti should focus on the concentration level of his player in this kind of matches not to get away from Barcelona in the standings.
The competition for the title this season in La Liga as usual only happens between Madrid and Barcelona, ​​the two teams are only separated by two points in the standings so anyone who slips up in just one match will be a very big loss, even though he has a poor performance in European competition, however, Barcelona performed very  well in La Liga so managed to win the top of the standings from Madrid, even though they were at the top, but I think Barcelona will find it difficult to survive because Madrid looks more consistent and confident that they can return to first place later after the world cup is over.

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November 18, 2022, 06:39:14 PM
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I think there are 2 things at play. Real Madrid lose more points than last year, but you also have Barcelona, who have had a much better start this year than last year. Last year there was actually not a single team that could stay in the area. For a long time only Seville was somewhat close. The fact that they eventually even finished 4th indicates that the championship last year did not pose any threat to Real Madrid. I expect Real Madrid to perform better again. Barcelona have a Frenkie de Jong in top form at the moment and also have the future with their talents. At Real Madrid there is a different kind of team with more experience.
A difference will definitely happen every season and it's happening in the current season especially for Barcelona who are able to display a much better performance than before. Real Madrid is under a very big threat, of course, even now they have to be in 2nd place in the standings, 2 points behind Barcelona, something we didn't see at all last season where Real Madrid could comfortably be at the top of the standings without significant pressure.

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November 18, 2022, 06:41:28 PM
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But at least Atletico Madrid is only 2 points away from third place in the Real Sociedad standings. It is not too difficult for Atletico Madrid to catch up and again take over the the top three positions in the standings, which is one of Atletico Madrid's targets this season. I agree, Atletico Madrid needs to add a few players to help strengthen Diego Simeone's main squad
Their target is still in the top 4 but in fact, regardless of their problems, it is very likely that they will end there because if you look at the previous few seasons it was like that.
But even though it's like that, I still don't think that many fans from Atletico have been satisfied, especially in La Liga. For the past few seasons, what I have seen and looked forward to the most is the competition from Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico, but for the last 2 seasons this seems difficult to happen.

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November 18, 2022, 06:48:49 PM
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Id love to see Athletico Madrid changing him for another coach if I am correct he has stayed good ten years as the coach of Athletico Madrid. Those defending tactics don't work in these modern days football. If they have a good sight then Thomas Tuchel will do a good job at that club getting a replacement for him won't be difficult, give Tuchel the players he wants and he'll win the La Liga for ATM.
The time of Diego Simeone should come to an end at that club.
This is an old way and actually really needs to be updated, especially with the characteristics of the current game which always relies on fast and wavy attacks.
Continuously defending is not very good for Atletico, especially with their defense which still has gaps.
Even though their counterattack is quite fast, when a small team is aiming for a draw and they carry out a defensive scheme, this will also benefit the opposing team.

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November 18, 2022, 07:05:18 PM
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Simeone is a great coach and i don't think that the problem problem of atleteco is in the coach, but the team need to find new players asap because the squad is really need fresh blood, simeone is one of the best coaches in the last 10 years in my opinion and i don't imagine atleteco without him

I disagree with this point haha; I think Simeone is the main problem of the Atletico side; the clubside has signed countless of top attackers and none of them is able to perform under Simeone as manager. his model of football is outdated and he needs to change his approach or be changed if Atletico Madrid wants to challenge again
Simeone tactics aren't that bad, they were useful in the past but keeping the same style the whole time will end up by forcing the others to know it and counter it.
I think that Simeone should update his methods, rather than to be switched, if he wants to keep competing and ATM risks to not find a better coach for the moment

Simeone is the longest serving coach in LaLiga - No doubt he is a good manager. People complain because he uses a defensive approach but that's usually differs from clubs to clubs. Well Simeone has his own style of playing things with a rock solid defense and a decent attack to surprise in counters. Now this has already worked wonders for example the Knockout CL game against Liverpool where they send Klopp complaining about it but that is also part of football. Yeah maybe this season they need to sharpen their attack but I never would call Simeone a problem or his methods outdated. Sometime it may not work but at times it can send heavyweights flying for sure.
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November 18, 2022, 07:15:23 PM
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The competition for the title this season in La Liga as usual only happens between Madrid and Barcelona, ​​the two teams are only separated by two points in the standings so anyone who slips up in just one match will be a very big loss, even though he has a poor performance in European competition, however, Barcelona performed very  well in La Liga so managed to win the top of the standings from Madrid, even though they were at the top, but I think Barcelona will find it difficult to survive because Madrid looks more consistent and confident that they can return to first place later after the world cup is over.
So far, the competition in the Spanish La Liga is still dominated by these two clubs. We cannot deny that the achievements of both of them are amazing and this season they are still rivals to win the La Liga title. Actually, speaking a decade ago there were names like Valencia and Sevilla who were able to compete at the top of the standings, but now both of them can only be in the middle of the standings to the bottom of the standings. I hope that in La Liga next season there will be significant changes for other clubs so that they can compete with each other, as in Serie A now it is no longer dominated by Juventus.

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November 18, 2022, 07:21:18 PM
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Id love to see Athletico Madrid changing him for another coach if I am correct he has stayed good ten years as the coach of Athletico Madrid. Those defending tactics don't work in these modern days football. If they have a good sight then Thomas Tuchel will do a good job at that club getting a replacement for him won't be difficult, give Tuchel the players he wants and he'll win the La Liga for ATM.
The time of Diego Simeone should come to an end at that club.
This is an old way and actually really needs to be updated, especially with the characteristics of the current game which always relies on fast and wavy attacks.
Continuously defending is not very good for Atletico, especially with their defense which still has gaps.
Even though their counterattack is quite fast, when a small team is aiming for a draw and they carry out a defensive scheme, this will also benefit the opposing team.
The style of play with a defensive system and relying on counterattacks to break into the opponent's goal, of course, has advantages for a club, because the coach besides seeing the weaknesses of the opponent also sees the weaknesses of his club. Atlético may not have many styles of play. They rely more on counterattacks. However, this style of play also provides opportunities for opposing clubs to attack. A little gap will make the goal concede. Maybe we can see the Madrid derby. With a style of play that is almost the same as relying on counterattacks. But Real is superior in this regard, because Real is more active in attack.

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If you look at their position, of course they still have a very big chance to return to 3rd place in the provisional standings. But in this case it is their form that has now seen a dip which is unfortunate for a team of Atletico Madrid's stature. It will be a big question why they are like this, and Diego Simeone will be asked the very first because he is a coach who manages Atletico Madrid directly.
Yep. Atletico Madrid should have a chance to return to the top 3. There are still too many remaining matches, it is not something impossible to reach. However, Atletico Madrid competes with some teams that have a small point gap for that position. They also performed inconsistently, they often got defeated or got a draw result when they are against smaller teams. With this condition, I think it won't be easy to return to the top 3. Simeone must find a suitable tactic and improve the mentality of Atletico Madrid players to increase the chance of getting 3 points in every match. This is the only way to return to the position (top 3/UCL zone).


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November 18, 2022, 07:39:34 PM
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A difference will definitely happen every season and it's happening in the current season especially for Barcelona who are able to display a much better performance than before. Real Madrid is under a very big threat, of course, even now they have to be in 2nd place in the standings, 2 points behind Barcelona, something we didn't see at all last season where Real Madrid could comfortably be at the top of the standings without significant pressure.

Every season there is always something that changes from every team. Barcelona has changed a lot this season, many new players and have experienced being able to bring in Camp Nou and the Blaugrana slightly improved compared to last season. Real Madrid aren't too bad but recently their form has been a bit off due to fatigue and Ancelotti's lack of rotation. But I'm sure, Madrid will again be able to win the top position of the standings from its eternal rival.

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November 18, 2022, 07:41:31 PM
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Until this 14th week, there are still clubs that have not been able to taste a single victory, namely Elche. They are so pathetic by only collecting 4 points from 4 draws. 7 points behind Cadiz and Sevilla, and 8 points behind the safety zone currently held by Celta Vigo. Not only that, they are also the club that has conceded the most, so far they have conceded 31 goals. It's been a very bad season for them because last season they could have done better by finishing 13th. I think they will be the first club to be relegated this season.
There has to be some teams like that. I am not saying that they have to not have any wins at all, but there needs to be some pathetic clubs every season so that we would have a last.

Most of the time teams know when it’s their season to be like that, they usually have such a huge financial trouble that they cannot build a team that would survive the league, they build a team of young players and veterans who would play for cheap and just go for the best they can do, and hope that they can save some money for next season when they are relegated. And it does work out well for some, because they may end up with some money and just go back to la liga a year later.
Indeed, in this case what you said is correct, but this looks much worse than before, although you can indeed say this is a bit natural because if you look in the mirror from last season, they are also still having the same difficulty to win, even if they are only one level above the relegation zone.
But in this case they have to try harder even though they are having problems because almost all clubs are hampered by problems when talking about finances except maybe Madrid which doesn't really have an impact.
On the other hand, at least they also have to be able to win because it is unlikely that they will be satisfied with going through the season if they keep losing and losing, even though they are in the relegation zone, they must also have the desire to improve themselves.

I think there are 2 things at play. Real Madrid lose more points than last year, but you also have Barcelona, who have had a much better start this year than last year. Last year there was actually not a single team that could stay in the area. For a long time only Seville was somewhat close. The fact that they eventually even finished 4th indicates that the championship last year did not pose any threat to Real Madrid. I expect Real Madrid to perform better again. Barcelona have a Frenkie de Jong in top form at the moment and also have the future with their talents. At Real Madrid there is a different kind of team with more experience.
Calmdown, they only lost once and drew 2 times, which means they can still be on a par with Barcelona even though they have 1 more win record.
This is not too worrying, but sometimes we always think of the worst, even though if you look at the statistics, it's actually not that bad.
They are only down by two points now and the game is still long enough so there are plenty of opportunities.

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November 18, 2022, 07:42:04 PM
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Xavi got everyone he wanted in the summer (putting Barcelona in an even more difficult financial position) but Barcelona continue to lose every big game. What do you say if this continues and the result of the season is second place in La Liga again? Barcelona are on the verge of bankruptcy and I don't think they can wait longer than 2 seasons for a good result from Xavi. In modern football, this is more than the maximum term.
I don't blame xavi for spending much fund to bring good players, xavi just his best to make Barcelona better like it used to be. The effort Xavi putting for Barcelona is not a waste,  atleast Barcelona is among the top teams.  Barcelona performance can change at anytime,  I don't think their performance will remain this way till the end of the season. Let have patience to see what xavi can do for Barcelona,  he is the reason why Barcelona is this better now

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