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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (23.8%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.2%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
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August 19, 2021, 06:04:48 PM
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I know I'm Barca but I have to slightly disagree. Dembele is a true talent, but we all know his problems with fitness so maybe after this season if they can't find a way to permanently help him we have to rethink the squad.

Braithwaite played with the weight of stars on him so maybe now he is free. And my personal favourite if he gets more chances is Fati!
Let's get a neutral view about Barcelona gameplay in the previous season in La Liga:
Messi played 3023 minutes, scored 30 goals, made 9 assists
Griezmann played 2604, scored 13 goals, made 7 assists
Dembele played 1774 minutes, scored 6 goals, made 3 assists
Braithwaite played 1175 minutes, scored 2 goals, made 2 assists
Ansu Fati played 431 minutes, scored 4 goals with 0 assists
Even the previous 2019/2020 wasn't better for most of them.. Apart Suarez, other players stats were way behind Messi's ones.
What's the point of having a "good" player while he barely plays a match to get injured and misses a dozen after it... The team hired you to make something for it, the incredible number of injuries and the time to recover is a pure losses for Barca.

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August 19, 2021, 06:07:45 PM
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I think that we will have a similar score or maybe even a bigger score difference. Therefore, it shouldn't be so hard for Atletico to beat them.
It will be an easy match for Atletico Madrid. I guess the score will be more than 3 for Atletico Madrid. Moreover, they will play at home, it will be an extra motivation to win with big scores. I hope Suarez can play in that match, so Atletico can be more offensive. Without Suarez, Atletico cannot play optimally, so they cannot score as many as usual.



Yeah, it will be an easy one. I also hope that Luis Suarez plays in this. Joao Felix is still injured and we don't know when he is going to return. If Suarez is able to play, there is no problem for Atletico. They beat Celta Vigo even with Correa as CF.  Grin  But still, it is better to play with a real CF of course.

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August 19, 2021, 06:16:05 PM
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What's the point of having a "good" player while he barely plays a match to get injured and misses a dozen after it... The team hired you to make something for it, the incredible number of injuries and the time to recover is a pure losses for Barca.
Injuries, inconsistent, difficult to develop are some of the reason why some of these players are only used as bench warmers. Miralem Pjanic was signed from Juventus, but Koeman didn't give him many opportunities to play and that's another reason why a player like this doesn't develop easily. Dembele, Ansu Fati are two of the few talented players who still need a lot of playing time and experience. They will help Barcelona but the coach has to manage it well and trust them.
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August 19, 2021, 06:43:22 PM
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I know I'm Barca but I have to slightly disagree. Dembele is a true talent, but we all know his problems with fitness so maybe after this season if they can't find a way to permanently help him we have to rethink the squad.

Braithwaite played with the weight of stars on him so maybe now he is free. And my personal favourite if he gets more chances is Fati!
Let's get a neutral view about Barcelona gameplay in the previous season in La Liga:
Messi played 3023 minutes, scored 30 goals, made 9 assists
Griezmann played 2604, scored 13 goals, made 7 assists
Dembele played 1774 minutes, scored 6 goals, made 3 assists
Braithwaite played 1175 minutes, scored 2 goals, made 2 assists
Ansu Fati played 431 minutes, scored 4 goals with 0 assists
Even the previous 2019/2020 wasn't better for most of them.. Apart Suarez, other players stats were way behind Messi's ones.
What's the point of having a "good" player while he barely plays a match to get injured and misses a dozen after it... The team hired you to make something for it, the incredible number of injuries and the time to recover is a pure losses for Barca.

I agree with you. It is unreasonable to consider how talented a player is when he cannot stay on the field long enough due to injury. All athletes must first maintain their fitness. Getting injured more quickly is detrimental to the player himeself and even to the team. Messi and Ronaldo have very few injuries.

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August 19, 2021, 08:48:18 PM
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Real Madrid's big win against Alaves will be a big motivation for Real Madrid players. Of course, they will continue to hope that this positive trend can continue. Although the match will be held at home to Levante but Real Madrid is still a big team that will be hard to beat. My prediction is Real Madrid will win this match with a score of 2-0.

Real Madrid's players are now cheerful after a 4-1 win over Alves in the first leg. However, the Levante team cannot be considered as a weak team. Levante is a good team. In the last 5 head to head matches they have lost 3 times against Real Madrid but have won 2 matches. So, Real Madrid must have to play carefully.
Real Madrid had an easy winning against Alaves, the match was an interesting match . Levante may not be weak, but I don't think they can win Real Madrid in their next match. They drew their last match which was against Cadiz. Levante had a bad season last season, they ended the season at 14th position and only won 9, drew 14 and lost 15 matches. They will definitely give Real Madrid a tough time, but I think Real Madrid will win the match.



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August 19, 2021, 08:55:30 PM
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Villarreal's next game is against Espanyol and it is an away game. After having a really good season, Villarreal couldn't start very well with the result they got in their first league game against Granada. It ended 0-0 but they were the better side for sure. Now, they would like to make things better for themselves by defeating Espanyol. But I must admit that this game will be a tough one. Villarreal should watch out for their opponent.
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August 19, 2021, 11:36:19 PM
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-snip-
I know I'm Barca but I have to slightly disagree. Dembele is a true talent, but we all know his problems with fitness so maybe after this season if they can't find a way to permanently help him we have to rethink the squad.

Braithwaite played with the weight of stars on him so maybe now he is free. And my personal favourite if he gets more chances is Fati!
Let's get a neutral view about Barcelona gameplay in the previous season in La Liga:
Messi played 3023 minutes, scored 30 goals, made 9 assists
Griezmann played 2604, scored 13 goals, made 7 assists
Dembele played 1774 minutes, scored 6 goals, made 3 assists
Braithwaite played 1175 minutes, scored 2 goals, made 2 assists
Ansu Fati played 431 minutes, scored 4 goals with 0 assists
Even the previous 2019/2020 wasn't better for most of them.. Apart Suarez, other players stats were way behind Messi's ones.
What's the point of having a "good" player while he barely plays a match to get injured and misses a dozen after it... The team hired you to make something for it, the incredible number of injuries and the time to recover is a pure losses for Barca.


I agree with you. It is unreasonable to consider how talented a player is when he cannot stay on the field long enough due to injury. All athletes must first maintain their fitness. Getting injured more quickly is detrimental to the player himeself and even to the team. Messi and Ronaldo have very few injuries.

It is an eternal dilemma for the clubs that spend large sums to get the best players, like Madrid, Barca, Manchester, Liverpool, Milan,... At the end of the day players are quite fragile, and in fact I am surprised about how long some of them are able to play at the maximum professional level, because it is not only about being motivated after you have earned enough for 10 lifes, it is also about keeping that fitness and hardiness to endure a game that has plenty of hard contact.

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August 19, 2021, 11:45:33 PM
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PSG president has made it clear that they will not sell mbappe this season and of course that makes all the rumors about mbappe moving to real madrid have been broken, so like it or not real madrid must be able to take advantage of their current players and now benzema is hope for madrid to score goals against their opponents.
You are right, it is clear that Mbappe will stay in PSG this season. But AFAIK, he still didn't sign his renewal contract, which means he can leave PSG to Real Madrid in the next season. I think it is no problem for Real Madrid to compete with the current squad, it looks not really bad. Surely Benzema becomes the most important player in the squad as his contribution leading Madrid to win every single match. It will be great to see Mbappe plays together with Benzema in the next season. Real Madrid attacking line will be more offensive.  Wink


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August 19, 2021, 11:48:54 PM
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Villarreal's next game is against Espanyol and it is an away game. After having a really good season, Villarreal couldn't start very well with the result they got in their first league game against Granada. It ended 0-0 but they were the better side for sure. Now, they would like to make things better for themselves by defeating Espanyol. But I must admit that this game will be a tough one. Villarreal should watch out for their opponent.

Espanyol is a promotion team usually the promotion team will do something surprising especially at the start of the season, last week they managed to draw against Osasuna
1 point as the away team is not bad. On the other hand Villarreal certainly don't want to lose points 3 points is their target to get back on track

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August 19, 2021, 11:49:22 PM
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Mbappe not any planning to extended with PSG for several years later and become free transfer player in the next window transfer, if PSG keep ask Mbappe stay on PSG they will get nothing next year because Mbappe become free transfer player, before too late better sell Mbappe because he not happy on PSG right now and won't to extended his sign with PSG, which one choose by PSG let her go with free transfer or sell right now before it late.
Paris Saint-Germain can probably afford Mbappe's departure as a free agent next summer. Paris Saint-Germain can probably afford Mbappe's departure as a free agent next summer. Another question is how this is combined with the principles of financial fair play, because a potential sale of a player could help a little in this. Because other super clubs are already starting to look with some irritation at the transfer events taking place in Paris Saint-Germain and the reaction of the regulatory authorities in the person of UEFA to this. In any case, if the Paris Saint-Germain management wants to have a super-bond in the person of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, then PSG's behavior fits perfectly into this idea, even if only for one season.
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August 19, 2021, 11:59:12 PM
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PSG president has made it clear that they will not sell mbappe this season and of course that makes all the rumors about mbappe moving to real madrid have been broken, so like it or not real madrid must be able to take advantage of their current players and now benzema is hope for madrid to score goals against their opponents.
You are right, it is clear that Mbappe will stay in PSG this season. But AFAIK, he still didn't sign his renewal contract, which means he can leave PSG to Real Madrid in the next season. I think it is no problem for Real Madrid to compete with the current squad, it looks not really bad. Surely Benzema becomes the most important player in the squad as his contribution leading Madrid to win every single match. It will be great to see Mbappe plays together with Benzema in the next season. Real Madrid attacking line will be more offensive.  Wink

It looks like Mbappe will be at PSG spending a contract until next year, after which he can move to Real Madrid for free next year. Because it seems
difficult to buy Mbappe this year, because PSG did ask for a fairly high transfer fee. We all know that all La Liga teams are currently experiencing
a financial crisis due to the pandemic. But Madrid's performance against Alaves was very good, Real Madrid is very productive by scoring 4 goals.
As usual Benzema has always been a goal machine for Madrid, It is very interesting to imagine how Madrid's front line would be if Mbappe could
come to Real Madrid. Maybe Real Madrid can score more goals, but I am also optimistic with the current squad, Madrid can compete with Barcelona
and Atletico to chase the La Liga trophy.

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August 20, 2021, 03:35:41 AM
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According to reports from Spain,Phiippe Coutinho have been offered the much coveted Lionel Messi's shirt number#10 for the new season.Although Coutinho is expected to take a pay cut,he has been seen as the person that can carry on the mantle that Lionel Messi left before going to PSG.

Nethertheless,it is yet to be seen whether Coutinho will be at Barca at the end if the transfer window,because Arsenal are considering swooping in for the Barcelona man who could be available for a lesser price than their No1 target Maddison.
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August 20, 2021, 05:01:11 AM
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I think it is no problem for Real Madrid to compete with the current squad, it looks not really bad. Surely Benzema becomes the most important player in the squad as his contribution leading Madrid to win every single match. It will be great to see Mbappe plays together with Benzema in the next season. Real Madrid attacking line will be more offensive.
Real is a big big club, there is really very few situations where they would not even be good in the La Liga, sure there could be years they may not be good at champions league but there also will be some type of situations where they will be great and win 3 in a row. However no matter what they are doing, they will not be actually really bad in La Liga, I do not even remember the last time we ever seen them out of top 4 for example, I mean that may exist in the past but I do not think that it happened that frequently. Last season they ended up being second in the league AND go to semi finals in the champions league world so I believe it is not going to be that difficult for them to be actually that good.

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According to reports from Spain,Phiippe Coutinho have been offered the much coveted Lionel Messi's shirt number#10 for the new season.Although Coutinho is expected to take a pay cut,he has been seen as the person that can carry on the mantle that Lionel Messi left before going to PSG.

Nethertheless,it is yet to be seen whether Coutinho will be at Barca at the end if the transfer window,because Arsenal are considering swooping in for the Barcelona man who could be available for a lesser price than their No1 target Maddison.
I don’t think Arsenal is still interested in Philippe Coutinho's deal. Although earlier this week Barcelona were preparing a swap deal that would see the Brazilian head to Arsenal in exchange for Pierre Aubameyang, Buh I don’t think the deal is still on regarding the fact that Messi has left to Paris Saint Germans, there’re few experience and good players now in the team. I don’t see anything he has got to offer in the Arsenal side. Besides the Arsenal manager is mainly focused on Odegaard or Maddison and are very much younger than coutinho, so Barcelona must have decided to retain Coutinho after all.
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August 20, 2021, 05:48:01 AM
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According to reports from Spain,Phiippe Coutinho have been offered the much coveted Lionel Messi's shirt number#10 for the new season.Although Coutinho is expected to take a pay cut,he has been seen as the person that can carry on the mantle that Lionel Messi left before going to PSG.

Nethertheless,it is yet to be seen whether Coutinho will be at Barca at the end if the transfer window,because Arsenal are considering swooping in for the Barcelona man who could be available for a lesser price than their No1 target Maddison.
I don’t think Arsenal is still interested in Philippe Coutinho's deal. Although earlier this week Barcelona were preparing a swap deal that would see the Brazilian head to Arsenal in exchange for Pierre Aubameyang, Buh I don’t think the deal is still on regarding the fact that Messi has left to Paris Saint Germans, so Barcelona must have decided to retain Coutinho after all.

Coutinho is a loss project for Barcelona. They spent a lot of money to sign Coutinho, but Barcelona did not get the expected results. Coutinho is a good player. He is talented and skilled. But he has completely failed to adapt to the Barcelona team. Barcelona are not interested in keeping Coutinho in the team now.

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August 20, 2021, 08:24:33 AM
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I think it is no problem for Real Madrid to compete with the current squad, it looks not really bad. Surely Benzema becomes the most important player in the squad as his contribution leading Madrid to win every single match. It will be great to see Mbappe plays together with Benzema in the next season. Real Madrid attacking line will be more offensive.
Real is a big big club, there is really very few situations where they would not even be good in the La Liga, sure there could be years they may not be good at champions league but there also will be some type of situations where they will be great and win 3 in a row. However no matter what they are doing, they will not be actually really bad in La Liga, I do not even remember the last time we ever seen them out of top 4 for example, I mean that may exist in the past but I do not think that it happened that frequently. Last season they ended up being second in the league AND go to semi finals in the champions league world so I believe it is not going to be that difficult for them to be actually that good.

Yes, Real Madrid is indeed a great team but if they don't buy new players then their chances of competing in the title race will be tough. This season they only brought David Alaba and had to be willing to lose their two strong defenders (Sergio Ramos and Raphael Varane). So If this condition does not change until the transfer window closes then Carlo Ancelotti will have to fight extra hard to bring Real Madrid to compete for the title.

Hopefully, before the transfer window closes, Real Madrid will give us a surprise because with almost the same squad last season Real Madrid failed to win the title or maybe Carlo Ancelotti's presence could provide a better chance.

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August 20, 2021, 08:56:51 AM
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Yes, Real Madrid is indeed a great team but if they don't buy new players then their chances of competing in the title race will be tough. This season they only brought David Alaba and had to be willing to lose their two strong defenders (Sergio Ramos and Raphael Varane). So If this condition does not change until the transfer window closes then Carlo Ancelotti will have to fight extra hard to bring Real Madrid to compete for the title.
Varane is a big loss for Real Madrid because he can play many more seasons but Ramos he stays in Bernabeu, he might not play many matches because of injury and age. In the last season, Ramos has very limited appearance in Real.

Ramos can use his experience in big matches like AC Milan reserved Paolo Maldini.

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Hopefully, before the transfer window closes, Real Madrid will give us a surprise because with almost the same squad last season Real Madrid failed to win the title or maybe Carlo Ancelotti's presence could provide a better chance.
They will try to use what they have after what they witnessed with bad finance from Barcelona. They are constructing a new stadium and all together, they have financial burden.

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August 20, 2021, 09:32:19 AM
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According to reports from Spain,Phiippe Coutinho have been offered the much coveted Lionel Messi's shirt number#10 for the new season.Although Coutinho is expected to take a pay cut,he has been seen as the person that can carry on the mantle that Lionel Messi left before going to PSG.

Nethertheless,it is yet to be seen whether Coutinho will be at Barca at the end if the transfer window,because Arsenal are considering swooping in for the Barcelona man who could be available for a lesser price than their No1 target Maddison.
I don’t think Arsenal is still interested in Philippe Coutinho's deal. Although earlier this week Barcelona were preparing a swap deal that would see the Brazilian head to Arsenal in exchange for Pierre Aubameyang, Buh I don’t think the deal is still on regarding the fact that Messi has left to Paris Saint Germans, so Barcelona must have decided to retain Coutinho after all.

Coutinho is a loss project for Barcelona. They spent a lot of money to sign Coutinho, but Barcelona did not get the expected results. Coutinho is a good player. He is talented and skilled. But he has completely failed to adapt to the Barcelona team. Barcelona are not interested in keeping Coutinho in the team now.
Yes, even in Barcelona's first match yesterday the fact that Coutinho was not included in the squad and I think that's a sign that Barcelona don't really need him and will not be kept. That way, then of course when there is a good offer to bring Coutinho to leave Barcelona, I think Barcelona will easily and quickly give the answer about approval. It's a shame I think for Coutinho it didn't work out after his departure from Liverpool, even though at that time there was a lot of drama that made Coutinho difficult to let go of Liverpool.

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Yes, Real Madrid is indeed a great team but if they don't buy new players then their chances of competing in the title race will be tough. This season they only brought David Alaba and had to be willing to lose their two strong defenders (Sergio Ramos and Raphael Varane). So If this condition does not change until the transfer window closes then Carlo Ancelotti will have to fight extra hard to bring Real Madrid to compete for the title.

Hopefully, before the transfer window closes, Real Madrid will give us a surprise because with almost the same squad last season Real Madrid failed to win the title or maybe Carlo Ancelotti's presence could provide a better chance.

What a manager can do if he doesn't have the players to do it? It's a fact that Real needs for sure (at least) one "top shelf" central defender and perhaps a midfielder. Unless the administration of Real, has a secret deal with someone and waits to announce it or puts their faith in some of their youngsters. I don't know though to whom from them Ancelotti can trust the basic CB position. Undecided

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August 20, 2021, 11:16:35 AM
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Any thoughts on tonight's La Liga game? Cadiz are away and the bookies are quite firmly against them at the moment looking at the odds, but I still remember their shock wins last season against fancier teams so I'm trying not to get tempted to play them, maybe with a goal handicap? Or take Draw No Bet?

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