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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.2%)
Real Madrid - 81 (67.5%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
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July 01, 2021, 06:34:41 PM
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Koeman has done his job properly. He is a great coach. Will Real Madrid's new coach Carlo Ancelotti be able to stabilize Real Madrid very quickly? Real Madrid's forward has not changed. In the next season they will also depend on Benjama. Ramos is not in the squad, looking forward to seeing how Real Madrid will fill this gap.
I feel like Koeman is not the type of manager that will make you suddenly become the best team in the world, but he is the coach that can take the best out of each player and that is a rare trait in most managers. Think about it, even the great managers like Mourinho can only play very very well if the team is built around his own strategy, he is a park the bus counter attack type of manager and with it he has won UCL and many other trophies and he is a great manager because of that, but give him Spurs and we have seen what happened.

Koeman is not like that, maybe he will win something (well he has barceloan, a la liga title is not that weird) or maybe he won't but when he is your manager you have the 100% confidence that he is playing each player at 100% and that is the great thing about him that allowed him to be manager at a club like Barcelona.
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July 01, 2021, 11:48:41 PM
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You are right that defenders are less valued than attackers. Although there are fewer good defenders than attackers. In any case, it is problematic to buy a defender now. Clubs are not willing to sell them, and those who are on the market are unlikely to be better than those who are in the club.
Look how much money Manchester City and Guardiola spent on the defenders, it's hard to say that the attackers are more expensive than the defenders. And you are right when you say that the value of good defenders is that there are few of them, while there are much more attackers.
Yes you are right defenders need some more credit as we have seen in the past many defenders were the reason why their teams won trophies for example ramos who scored a lot of decessive goals like the one against atletico in the champions league and we have seen that teams with good defenders always perform well and with only strikers you can not win trophies and i think borussia dortmund is a good example they always have good attackers but they do not win trophies so this show the importance of a balanced team.
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July 02, 2021, 02:35:49 AM
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I feel like Koeman is not the type of manager that will make you suddenly become the best team in the world, but he is the coach that can take the best out of each player and that is a rare trait in most managers. Think about it, even the great managers like Mourinho can only play very very well if the team is built around his own strategy, he is a park the bus counter attack type of manager and with it he has won UCL and many other trophies and he is a great manager because of that, but give him Spurs and we have seen what happened.

Koeman is not like that, maybe he will win something (well he has barceloan, a la liga title is not that weird) or maybe he won't but when he is your manager you have the 100% confidence that he is playing each player at 100% and that is the great thing about him that allowed him to be manager at a club like Barcelona.
No coach can do sudden success or make a bad or in trouble team become the best team in the world. It is unrealistic. Everything takes time and luck as well. If success comes mainly from luck, it won't last long.

Long success is built up from long preparation. You can check this fact with Dortmund, Liverpool with Klopp, Italy with Mancini, Atalanta with Gasperini, and Bayern Munich. Bayern can get troubles in one or two seasons but it is from their tactics. They have high quality player resources that contribute to their success long term. A new coach comes to Bayern will inherit the very good player resources and move forwards with new tactics that in turn bring success for them.

Koeman built up Netherlands very impressive but he took that job in Barcelona when the team were in serious troubles. Their player resource does not change much in the last season. I hope the transfer season with some good contracts will help Koeman and Barcelona in a new season.

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July 02, 2021, 03:35:17 AM
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Real Madrid movement in the transfer market this season is really quite slow compared to Barcelona who have managed to sign several players so far, I think that currently Real Madrid do not yet have a target player who will later fill the position vacated by Ramos, But according to the news  if Real Madrid plan to sell some of their players first before bringing in new players, the players currently in the Real Madrid sell list are Brahim Diaz, Dani Ceballos and Luka Jovic, and the proceeds from the sale of these players are expected to be able to make up for Madrid lack of funds to bring in new players for central defender, attacking midfielder and striker.


Yeah they are moving really slowly. Maybe they don't want to rush things and be regretful for the transfer they will make. And maybe they are waiting for Euro 2020 to end. They may have some targets playing at national teams in this tournament right now. They may be monitoring their performance. There are so many maybes, I know.  Grin  But it is not easy to predict their actions. I hope that they sign a player who can really strengthen their defense line.

Failing to extend Ramos' contract is a big loss for Real Madrid, especially since Real Madrid had to give up Ramos on a free transfer. Even though I had assumed when Carlo Ancelotti joined Real Madrid then Ramos will choose to stay at Real Madrid, but circumstances said otherwise where both Ramos and Real Madrid no want to budge, so separation is the only solution.

To face the intense competition next season Real Madrid must bring in new players. On the defensive line, they should at least find a spare player for Eder Militao (it would be even better if they could get a defender equal to Ramos).

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July 02, 2021, 04:31:52 AM
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To face the intense competition next season Real Madrid must bring in new players. On the defensive line, they should at least find a spare player for Eder Militao (it would be even better if they could get a defender equal to Ramos).

Real Madrid should reorganize the team. New coaches as well as some new players. Real Madrid's forward was weak. Only one major striker. With Ramos leaving Real Madrid, Real Madrid's defense is now weak. So much weakness, at the same time the new coach. Real Madrid are unlikely to win the title next season. Real Madrid now need an experienced defender and striker.

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July 02, 2021, 05:08:10 AM
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To face the intense competition next season Real Madrid must bring in new players. On the defensive line, they should at least find a spare player for Eder Militao (it would be even better if they could get a defender equal to Ramos).

Real Madrid should reorganize the team. New coaches as well as some new players. Real Madrid's forward was weak. Only one major striker. With Ramos leaving Real Madrid, Real Madrid's defense is now weak. So much weakness, at the same time the new coach. Real Madrid are unlikely to win the title next season. Real Madrid now need an experienced defender and striker.
that's why currently the madrid management want to sell some of their players who didn't really have any contribution to the team last season, and this was done to get some money to be able to bring in new players, but in this case it looks like madrid doesn't have a target player to buy, There are many rumors that say that Madrid are currently eyeing Mbappe and if Real Madrid are targeting Mbappe it has should have been done considering that Mbappe (France) has now been knocked out of the euro.
In my opinion, Barcelona is the strongest candidate to be able to win La Liga next season because it managed to keep Messi and also even managed to bring in a number of star players even though on a free transfer Grin.

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July 02, 2021, 11:14:37 AM
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Real Madrid movement in the transfer market this season is really quite slow compared to Barcelona who have managed to sign several players so far, I think that currently Real Madrid do not yet have a target player who will later fill the position vacated by Ramos, But according to the news  if Real Madrid plan to sell some of their players first before bringing in new players, the players currently in the Real Madrid sell list are Brahim Diaz, Dani Ceballos and Luka Jovic, and the proceeds from the sale of these players are expected to be able to make up for Madrid lack of funds to bring in new players for central defender, attacking midfielder and striker.


Yeah they are moving really slowly. Maybe they don't want to rush things and be regretful for the transfer they will make. And maybe they are waiting for Euro 2020 to end. They may have some targets playing at national teams in this tournament right now. They may be monitoring their performance. There are so many maybes, I know.  Grin  But it is not easy to predict their actions. I hope that they sign a player who can really strengthen their defense line.

Failing to extend Ramos' contract is a big loss for Real Madrid, especially since Real Madrid had to give up Ramos on a free transfer. Even though I had assumed when Carlo Ancelotti joined Real Madrid then Ramos will choose to stay at Real Madrid, but circumstances said otherwise where both Ramos and Real Madrid no want to budge, so separation is the only solution.

To face the intense competition next season Real Madrid must bring in new players. On the defensive line, they should at least find a spare player for Eder Militao (it would be even better if they could get a defender equal to Ramos).
Real madrid will really need to add more depth to their backline as Sergio Ramos is set for medical to finalise a move to PSG,while Varane is interested in a move to Manchester United,who is said to be interested in the Madrid defender.If the both players should leave,there will be need for new players at the backline if Madrid will have the chance to contend for any tittle next season. The manager has to get things done quickly before the transfer window gets hot.
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July 02, 2021, 12:48:59 PM
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Real Madrid movement in the transfer market this season is really quite slow compared to Barcelona who have managed to sign several players so far, I think that currently Real Madrid do not yet have a target player who will later fill the position vacated by Ramos, But according to the news  if Real Madrid plan to sell some of their players first before bringing in new players, the players currently in the Real Madrid sell list are Brahim Diaz, Dani Ceballos and Luka Jovic, and the proceeds from the sale of these players are expected to be able to make up for Madrid lack of funds to bring in new players for central defender, attacking midfielder and striker.


Yeah they are moving really slowly. Maybe they don't want to rush things and be regretful for the transfer they will make. And maybe they are waiting for Euro 2020 to end. They may have some targets playing at national teams in this tournament right now. They may be monitoring their performance. There are so many maybes, I know.  Grin  But it is not easy to predict their actions. I hope that they sign a player who can really strengthen their defense line.

Failing to extend Ramos' contract is a big loss for Real Madrid, especially since Real Madrid had to give up Ramos on a free transfer. Even though I had assumed when Carlo Ancelotti joined Real Madrid then Ramos will choose to stay at Real Madrid, but circumstances said otherwise where both Ramos and Real Madrid no want to budge, so separation is the only solution.

To face the intense competition next season Real Madrid must bring in new players. On the defensive line, they should at least find a spare player for Eder Militao (it would be even better if they could get a defender equal to Ramos).
Real madrid will really need to add more depth to their backline as Sergio Ramos is set for medical to finalise a move to PSG,while Varane is interested in a move to Manchester United,who is said to be interested in the Madrid defender.If the both players should leave,there will be need for new players at the backline if Madrid will have the chance to contend for any tittle next season. The manager has to get things done quickly before the transfer window gets hot.

I believe Carlo Ancelotti doesn’t have the funds to spend as Bale isn’t quitting, and they’re unable to sell Hazard hence they’re not buying anyone during this transfer window. Furthermore the only way he can reinvest is by selling Varane or doing swap deals with other clubs, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Real Madrid don’t spend during this summer transfer window.
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July 02, 2021, 01:20:08 PM
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Real Madrid movement in the transfer market this season is really quite slow compared to Barcelona who have managed to sign several players so far, I think that currently Real Madrid do not yet have a target player who will later fill the position vacated by Ramos, But according to the news  if Real Madrid plan to sell some of their players first before bringing in new players, the players currently in the Real Madrid sell list are Brahim Diaz, Dani Ceballos and Luka Jovic, and the proceeds from the sale of these players are expected to be able to make up for Madrid lack of funds to bring in new players for central defender, attacking midfielder and striker.


Yeah they are moving really slowly. Maybe they don't want to rush things and be regretful for the transfer they will make. And maybe they are waiting for Euro 2020 to end. They may have some targets playing at national teams in this tournament right now. They may be monitoring their performance. There are so many maybes, I know.  Grin  But it is not easy to predict their actions. I hope that they sign a player who can really strengthen their defense line.

Failing to extend Ramos' contract is a big loss for Real Madrid, especially since Real Madrid had to give up Ramos on a free transfer. Even though I had assumed when Carlo Ancelotti joined Real Madrid then Ramos will choose to stay at Real Madrid, but circumstances said otherwise where both Ramos and Real Madrid no want to budge, so separation is the only solution.

To face the intense competition next season Real Madrid must bring in new players. On the defensive line, they should at least find a spare player for Eder Militao (it would be even better if they could get a defender equal to Ramos).
Real madrid will really need to add more depth to their backline as Sergio Ramos is set for medical to finalise a move to PSG,while Varane is interested in a move to Manchester United,who is said to be interested in the Madrid defender.If the both players should leave,there will be need for new players at the backline if Madrid will have the chance to contend for any tittle next season. The manager has to get things done quickly before the transfer window gets hot.

Real madrid isnt what they used to be. Their budget is really really low this season. Sergio Ramos contract wasnt extended due to his salary being so large. Currently Real Madrid is focusing on all young players and trying to make a new team for the upcoming years. PSG took the chance and got Ramos for free.

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July 02, 2021, 02:42:36 PM
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Real Madrid movement in the transfer market this season is really quite slow compared to Barcelona who have managed to sign several players so far, I think that currently Real Madrid do not yet have a target player who will later fill the position vacated by Ramos, But according to the news  if Real Madrid plan to sell some of their players first before bringing in new players, the players currently in the Real Madrid sell list are Brahim Diaz, Dani Ceballos and Luka Jovic, and the proceeds from the sale of these players are expected to be able to make up for Madrid lack of funds to bring in new players for central defender, attacking midfielder and striker.


Yeah they are moving really slowly. Maybe they don't want to rush things and be regretful for the transfer they will make. And maybe they are waiting for Euro 2020 to end. They may have some targets playing at national teams in this tournament right now. They may be monitoring their performance. There are so many maybes, I know.  Grin  But it is not easy to predict their actions. I hope that they sign a player who can really strengthen their defense line.

Failing to extend Ramos' contract is a big loss for Real Madrid, especially since Real Madrid had to give up Ramos on a free transfer. Even though I had assumed when Carlo Ancelotti joined Real Madrid then Ramos will choose to stay at Real Madrid, but circumstances said otherwise where both Ramos and Real Madrid no want to budge, so separation is the only solution.

To face the intense competition next season Real Madrid must bring in new players. On the defensive line, they should at least find a spare player for Eder Militao (it would be even better if they could get a defender equal to Ramos).
Real madrid will really need to add more depth to their backline as Sergio Ramos is set for medical to finalise a move to PSG,while Varane is interested in a move to Manchester United,who is said to be interested in the Madrid defender.If the both players should leave,there will be need for new players at the backline if Madrid will have the chance to contend for any tittle next season. The manager has to get things done quickly before the transfer window gets hot.

Real madrid isnt what they used to be. Their budget is really really low this season. Sergio Ramos contract wasnt extended due to his salary being so large. Currently Real Madrid is focusing on all young players and trying to make a new team for the upcoming years. PSG took the chance and got Ramos for free.

If Real Madrid focus on young players now, their title next season is completely uncertain. Because, the new coaches will have them, as well as young inexperienced players in the squad, so it will not be easy to win against strong teams. Looking forward to seeing the strategy of Real's new coach.

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July 02, 2021, 04:37:09 PM
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Real Madrid should reorganize the team. New coaches as well as some new players. Real Madrid's forward was weak. Only one major striker. With Ramos leaving Real Madrid, Real Madrid's defense is now weak. So much weakness, at the same time the new coach. Real Madrid are unlikely to win the title next season. Real Madrid now need an experienced defender and striker.
that's why currently the madrid management want to sell some of their players who didn't really have any contribution to the team last season, and this was done to get some money to be able to bring in new players, but in this case it looks like madrid doesn't have a target player to buy, There are many rumors that say that Madrid are currently eyeing Mbappe and if Real Madrid are targeting Mbappe it has should have been done considering that Mbappe (France) has now been knocked out of the euro.
In my opinion, Barcelona is the strongest candidate to be able to win La Liga next season because it managed to keep Messi and also even managed to bring in a number of star players even though on a free transfer Grin.
Getting rid of the excess amount of players that you think will not help this upcoming season, and using that money to buy new better players is a great method that many teams used during rebuilding periods. Real may not end up being a marvelous team right away this season, but with selling let's say you're starting center back and your bench center back, you could have a great starting one and a youth team level bench one, which is a risk you take in case if your player gets injured but still makes your team better on the starting eleven.

So what I assume will happen is that they are going to try to bag one superstar, which was said to be Mbappe but that is looking more like not going to happen but it could be someone else, then they will sell like maybe 5-6 players and use that to get 2-3 much better players and roll the dice this season, with all the money they will make next season, they will have 2-3 better players next off-season and suddenly with one bad season they can go back to being the best.

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July 02, 2021, 04:57:05 PM
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If Real Madrid focus on young players now, their title next season is completely uncertain. Because, the new coaches will have them, as well as young inexperienced players in the squad, so it will not be easy to win against strong teams. Looking forward to seeing the strategy of Real's new coach.

You are right. Since their coaches are new, they need experienced players. They can take on young players if they have a long-term plan. Then they have to sacrifice next season's title. And gradually the team needs to build more and more strong.

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July 02, 2021, 05:16:01 PM
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Getting rid of the excess amount of players that you think will not help this upcoming season, and using that money to buy new better players is a great method that many teams used during rebuilding periods. Real may not end up being a marvelous team right away this season, but with selling let's say you're starting center back and your bench center back, you could have a great starting one and a youth team level bench one, which is a risk you take in case if your player gets injured but still makes your team better on the starting eleven.

But in my opinion, real madrid is currently betting on its performance next season, we know that their rivals have bought a number of players, even though the condition of their team last season was quite good, but it was different with madrid which until now seemed to be just a spectator in the transfer market , it's not wrong to use youth academy players, but isn't it too risky to change young players to replace important players if injured, especially in an important match later, I think next season even madrid need about 3-5 new players to be able to help they are champions and most importantly Madrid really need a central defender who has leadership and is also tough in defending like Ramos has done so far.

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July 02, 2021, 05:30:54 PM
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If Real Madrid focus on young players now, their title next season is completely uncertain. Because, the new coaches will have them, as well as young inexperienced players in the squad, so it will not be easy to win against strong teams. Looking forward to seeing the strategy of Real's new coach.

You are right. Since their coaches are new, they need experienced players. They can take on young players if they have a long-term plan. Then they have to sacrifice next season's title. And gradually the team needs to build more and more strong.
Basically Carlo Ancelotti is not completely new at Real Madrid, Ancelotti in the past has given Real Madrid the UCL and Copa del Rey titles. So I think Ancelotti's return to Madrid is no stranger and that way, at least Ancelotti can correct his past mistakes too. Let's see what changes will occur and I hope Ancelotti can start well like in the past.

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July 02, 2021, 08:21:16 PM
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If Real Madrid focus on young players now, their title next season is completely uncertain. Because, the new coaches will have them, as well as young inexperienced players in the squad, so it will not be easy to win against strong teams. Looking forward to seeing the strategy of Real's new coach.

You are right. Since their coaches are new, they need experienced players. They can take on young players if they have a long-term plan. Then they have to sacrifice next season's title. And gradually the team needs to build more and more strong.
Basically Carlo Ancelotti is not completely new at Real Madrid, Ancelotti in the past has given Real Madrid the UCL and Copa del Rey titles. So I think Ancelotti's return to Madrid is no stranger and that way, at least Ancelotti can correct his past mistakes too. Let's see what changes will occur and I hope Ancelotti can start well like in the past.
Ancelotti is called again at Real Madrid because Madrid know how good he was when he was with them,and talking about rebuilding the team,I don't think most changes will be made because all hope is on him to deliver,and win tittles for Madrid starting from this upcoming season.Rebuilding the team will be a long way to go,so I think he will just blend the young players with the experienced ones,buy experienced defenders to fill in the backline position since Ramos and Varane will be leaving to different clubs respectively.with that done,Madrid will contend for tittle next season
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July 02, 2021, 11:46:40 PM
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Carlo Ancelotti is finally back at Real Madrid after 6 years. He became the manager of Bayern, Napoli and Everton in this period. I'm actually really happy to see him back at the club. Real Madrid had really nice years with Carlo Ancelotti. They needed a savior now and I think they found it. I'm hoping to see Ancelotti making the right transfers for the team and helping the team become much more competitive in the La Liga and the Champions League next season.

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Ancelotti is called again at Real Madrid because Madrid know how good he was when he was with them,and talking about rebuilding the team,I don't think most changes will be made because all hope is on him to deliver,and win tittles for Madrid starting from this upcoming season.Rebuilding the team will be a long way to go,so I think he will just blend the young players with the experienced ones,buy experienced defenders to fill in the backline position since Ramos and Varane will be leaving to different clubs respectively.with that done,Madrid will contend for tittle next season
Let's hope that Ancelotti will make a result at Real Madrid, because no one in the club's management will give an opportunity for several years to build a new team with an eye to the future and no one will be engaged in pleasant memories of the past for a long time. This season was relatively unsuccessful for the club, but the club was quite close to the titles, both in La Liga and in the Champions League, so I think that the club's management will expect results at least at this level and even at least some title. Ancelotti is famous for his good relationships with players in most of his clubs and there should be no problems with the microclimate in the team. It's no secret that Zidane has lost human contact with some players. Another question is whether the club will really be able to provide high-quality players in the defensive line and how quickly they will fit into the team.
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July 03, 2021, 05:45:58 AM
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If Real Madrid focus on young players now, their title next season is completely uncertain. Because, the new coaches will have them, as well as young inexperienced players in the squad, so it will not be easy to win against strong teams. Looking forward to seeing the strategy of Real's new coach.

You are right. Since their coaches are new, they need experienced players. They can take on young players if they have a long-term plan. Then they have to sacrifice next season's title. And gradually the team needs to build more and more strong.
Basically Carlo Ancelotti is not completely new at Real Madrid, Ancelotti in the past has given Real Madrid the UCL and Copa del Rey titles. So I think Ancelotti's return to Madrid is no stranger and that way, at least Ancelotti can correct his past mistakes too. Let's see what changes will occur and I hope Ancelotti can start well like in the past.
Ancelotti is called again at Real Madrid because Madrid know how good he was when he was with them,and talking about rebuilding the team,I don't think most changes will be made because all hope is on him to deliver,and win tittles for Madrid starting from this upcoming season.Rebuilding the team will be a long way to go,so I think he will just blend the young players with the experienced ones,buy experienced defenders to fill in the backline position since Ramos and Varane will be leaving to different clubs respectively.with that done,Madrid will contend for tittle next season

It was not right to release Ramos and Varane at the same time. Real Madrid could have taken a young defender with Ramos for another season. As a result, Real could easily make a replacement for Ramos. The departure of Ramos and Varane will create a void in their place. Looking forward to seeing what strategy Ancelotti follows.

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July 03, 2021, 05:55:06 AM
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Carlo Ancelotti is finally back at Real Madrid after 6 years. He became the manager of Bayern, Napoli and Everton in this period. I'm actually really happy to see him back at the club. Real Madrid had really nice years with Carlo Ancelotti. They needed a savior now and I think they found it. I'm hoping to see Ancelotti making the right transfers for the team and helping the team become much more competitive in the La Liga and the Champions League next season.
Certainly,Madrid will do well again with Ancelotti.He's a coach that knows the system.His modus operandi is one that Real Madrid loves,his style of football, and his game formation is what makes madrid remember him.But he must focus's his attention on the defence line,with Ramos out,if not replaced with a better defender,the backline will give him problem in the upcoming season.
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July 03, 2021, 06:12:13 AM
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Basically Carlo Ancelotti is not completely new at Real Madrid, Ancelotti in the past has given Real Madrid the UCL and Copa del Rey titles. So I think Ancelotti's return to Madrid is no stranger and that way, at least Ancelotti can correct his past mistakes too. Let's see what changes will occur and I hope Ancelotti can start well like in the past.

Yes, Ancelotti did coach Real Madrid from 2013 to 2015. Although at that time Real Madrid won the Champions League (2013/2014) but Ancelotti failed to win the La Liga title. Now Ancelotti has a much bigger task than before because the current composition of Real Madrid squad is very different when compared to the era of Ronaldo et al.

To be a champion, what Real Madrid needs now is great players who have a winning mentality, so it's not just buying young players. Unfortunately, Real Madrid's current financial condition is not currently possible for large-scale spending.

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