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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
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July 03, 2021, 07:47:03 AM
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Basically Carlo Ancelotti is not completely new at Real Madrid, Ancelotti in the past has given Real Madrid the UCL and Copa del Rey titles. So I think Ancelotti's return to Madrid is no stranger and that way, at least Ancelotti can correct his past mistakes too. Let's see what changes will occur and I hope Ancelotti can start well like in the past.
Yes, Ancelotti did coach Real Madrid from 2013 to 2015. Although at that time Real Madrid won the Champions League (2013/2014) but Ancelotti failed to win the La Liga title. Now Ancelotti has a much bigger task than before because the current composition of Real Madrid squad is very different when compared to the era of Ronaldo et al.

To be a champion, what Real Madrid needs now is great players who have a winning mentality, so it's not just buying young players. Unfortunately, Real Madrid's current financial condition is not currently possible for large-scale spending.

Indeed, Ancelotti has been a Real Madrid coach before, but this does not guarantee that Ancelotti will adapt quickly. Because when Ancelotti
became Madrid coach in 2013-2015, the Madrid squad had several senior players who did have a good mentality. Whereas now Real Madrid
are too many young players who do not have a strong mentality, what makes Ancelotti even more difficult is Madrid's poor financial condition.
It was difficult for Ancelotti to sign the star players he wanted, therefore it will not be easy for Ancelotti to become Madrid coach now.
I am curious about the strategy that Ancelotti will use to make Madrid victorious again.

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July 03, 2021, 08:30:57 AM
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If Real Madrid focus on young players now, their title next season is completely uncertain. Because, the new coaches will have them, as well as young inexperienced players in the squad, so it will not be easy to win against strong teams. Looking forward to seeing the strategy of Real's new coach.

You are right. Since their coaches are new, they need experienced players. They can take on young players if they have a long-term plan. Then they have to sacrifice next season's title. And gradually the team needs to build more and more strong.
Basically Carlo Ancelotti is not completely new at Real Madrid, Ancelotti in the past has given Real Madrid the UCL and Copa del Rey titles. So I think Ancelotti's return to Madrid is no stranger and that way, at least Ancelotti can correct his past mistakes too. Let's see what changes will occur and I hope Ancelotti can start well like in the past.
Ancelotti is called again at Real Madrid because Madrid know how good he was when he was with them,and talking about rebuilding the team,I don't think most changes will be made because all hope is on him to deliver,and win tittles for Madrid starting from this upcoming season.Rebuilding the team will be a long way to go,so I think he will just blend the young players with the experienced ones,buy experienced defenders to fill in the backline position since Ramos and Varane will be leaving to different clubs respectively.with that done,Madrid will contend for tittle next season

It was not right to release Ramos and Varane at the same time. Real Madrid could have taken a young defender with Ramos for another season. As a result, Real could easily make a replacement for Ramos. The departure of Ramos and Varane will create a void in their place. Looking forward to seeing what strategy Ancelotti follows.

Yeah Releasing Ramos and Varane a hard one but yhey have got better plan i believe, sending out two great defender's will put them in a bad position,i am seeing them conceding a lot of goals at the beginning,but change is constant, they're trying to build a new team as well around other young players.

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July 03, 2021, 02:31:26 PM
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It was not right to release Ramos and Varane at the same time. Real Madrid could have taken a young defender with Ramos for another season. As a result, Real could easily make a replacement for Ramos. The departure of Ramos and Varane will create a void in their place. Looking forward to seeing what strategy Ancelotti follows.

Yeah Releasing Ramos and Varane a hard one but yhey have got better plan i believe, sending out two great defender's will put them in a bad position,i am seeing them conceding a lot of goals at the beginning,but change is constant, they're trying to build a new team as well around other young players.


Real Madrid may be targeting La Liga and Champions League titles for the 2022-23 season. No team wants to changes their defenders too quickly. So if Real Madrid can make an experienced defender, then he will serve Real Madrid for a long time. So Ancelotti is focusing to take on young players. Although they have not bought any experienced striker this season due to financial crisis, they may join the experienced striker team next year.

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July 03, 2021, 05:21:52 PM
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Basically Carlo Ancelotti is not completely new at Real Madrid, Ancelotti in the past has given Real Madrid the UCL and Copa del Rey titles. So I think Ancelotti's return to Madrid is no stranger and that way, at least Ancelotti can correct his past mistakes too. Let's see what changes will occur and I hope Ancelotti can start well like in the past.

Yes, Ancelotti did coach Real Madrid from 2013 to 2015. Although at that time Real Madrid won the Champions League (2013/2014) but Ancelotti failed to win the La Liga title. Now Ancelotti has a much bigger task than before because the current composition of Real Madrid squad is very different when compared to the era of Ronaldo et al.

To be a champion, what Real Madrid needs now is great players who have a winning mentality, so it's not just buying young players. Unfortunately, Real Madrid's current financial condition is not currently possible for large-scale spending.

This is 100% true. The Madrid he is now going to coach is extremely different from back then. The defense was very strong and in their best ages, Ronaldo was and decent backup strikers. Midfield was strong as well. Today I hardly know anyone. A lot will also depend on Atletico's and Barcelona's performance, but I highly doubt that any of the team will do another record like season with 95 points or so.

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This is 100% true. The Madrid he is now going to coach is extremely different from back then. The defense was very strong and in their best ages, Ronaldo was and decent backup strikers. Midfield was strong as well. Today I hardly know anyone. A lot will also depend on Atletico's and Barcelona's performance, but I highly doubt that any of the team will do another record like season with 95 points or so.
Every team will not be at the same level for every season while there are players who come and move. It will be competitive enough for other team so there is always hope for other team to win the title. The dominance of Real Madrid and Barcelona in La Liga is considered boring by some. The same might have happened to Barcelona and they are far from perfect now.

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July 03, 2021, 06:05:54 PM
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I think the Ramos one was a known thing for a while inside, and they just didn't want to pay that much money for a veteran player who is out of the door anyway because of his age, but I doubt that Varane thing was something they planned, certainly not with Ramos leaving at the same season, they would have kept Ramos one more season if they knew that Varane would leave, however dude just wanted to get out.

I still think that it is Real Madrid and they have a ton of money and they could end up using that money to get defenders, they already got one and they are looking for another.

Instead of making a big spending and get another superstar like they always do each season, for example instead of getting Mbappe or something like that, they could just instead split that money and buy two amazing defenders all they have to do is convince those players to come join them.

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~snip~

To be a champion, what Real Madrid needs now is great players who have a winning mentality, so it's not just buying young players. Unfortunately, Real Madrid's current financial condition is not currently possible for large-scale spending.
Yes, he wasn't that bad at that time, but actually I liked Zidane more. A tough task awaits anceloti.
Indeed, until now I have not heard any official news about the transfer of players made by Madrid. I also didn't hear about their finances. I hope they just wait for the Euros and the Copa America to finish. They have to spend if they want to compete for the La Liga and UCL titles.
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I think the Ramos one was a known thing for a while inside, and they just didn't want to pay that much money for a veteran player who is out of the door anyway because of his age, but I doubt that Varane thing was something they planned, certainly not with Ramos leaving at the same season, they would have kept Ramos one more season if they knew that Varane would leave, however dude just wanted to get out.
I still think that it is Real Madrid and they have a ton of money and they could end up using that money to get defenders, they already got one and they are looking for another.
Instead of making a big spending and get another superstar like they always do each season, for example instead of getting Mbappe or something like that, they could just instead split that money and buy two amazing defenders all they have to do is convince those players to come join them.
In any case, the very status of both the super club and the financial capabilities should allow Real Madrid to find defenders of a decent level for themselves. As for Ramos, I would like to say the following: Sergio was not just a defender, but the leader of the team, the so-called leader of the locker room. It was not by chance that there was information that the non-extension of the contract was due to the deterioration of relations between Ramos and Florentino Perez, when after the 1-4 defeat to Ajax, Ramos, who missed the game due to disqualification, stood up for the team, and then clashed verbally with the boss. Therefore, everything is not clear here, especially since Ancelotti stated that he could not imagine a team without Ramos.
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July 04, 2021, 04:23:54 AM
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Basically Carlo Ancelotti is not completely new at Real Madrid, Ancelotti in the past has given Real Madrid the UCL and Copa del Rey titles. So I think Ancelotti's return to Madrid is no stranger and that way, at least Ancelotti can correct his past mistakes too. Let's see what changes will occur and I hope Ancelotti can start well like in the past.

Yes, Ancelotti did coach Real Madrid from 2013 to 2015. Although at that time Real Madrid won the Champions League (2013/2014) but Ancelotti failed to win the La Liga title. Now Ancelotti has a much bigger task than before because the current composition of Real Madrid squad is very different when compared to the era of Ronaldo et al.

To be a champion, what Real Madrid needs now is great players who have a winning mentality, so it's not just buying young players. Unfortunately, Real Madrid's current financial condition is not currently possible for large-scale spending.

This is 100% true. The Madrid he is now going to coach is extremely different from back then. The defense was very strong and in their best ages, Ronaldo was and decent backup strikers. Midfield was strong as well. Today I hardly know anyone. A lot will also depend on Atletico's and Barcelona's performance, but I highly doubt that any of the team will do another record like season with 95 points or so.
Ancelotti is not a master at winning championships, he shows himself well in cup matches. So it’s not worth waiting for Real Madrid to win in La Liga, and in the Champions League next season. The team is too weak, and there are no gains. Ramos is gone, Varane will leave soon. The midfielders have grown old and cannot keep up with the rhythm of the game. In the attack, one Benzema and he is no longer young. Buying one or two top players won't solve the problem. We need players for every position, except the goalkeeper.
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Basically Carlo Ancelotti is not completely new at Real Madrid, Ancelotti in the past has given Real Madrid the UCL and Copa del Rey titles. So I think Ancelotti's return to Madrid is no stranger and that way, at least Ancelotti can correct his past mistakes too. Let's see what changes will occur and I hope Ancelotti can start well like in the past.

Yes, Ancelotti did coach Real Madrid from 2013 to 2015. Although at that time Real Madrid won the Champions League (2013/2014) but Ancelotti failed to win the La Liga title. Now Ancelotti has a much bigger task than before because the current composition of Real Madrid squad is very different when compared to the era of Ronaldo et al.

To be a champion, what Real Madrid needs now is great players who have a winning mentality, so it's not just buying young players. Unfortunately, Real Madrid's current financial condition is not currently possible for large-scale spending.

This is 100% true. The Madrid he is now going to coach is extremely different from back then. The defense was very strong and in their best ages, Ronaldo was and decent backup strikers. Midfield was strong as well. Today I hardly know anyone. A lot will also depend on Atletico's and Barcelona's performance, but I highly doubt that any of the team will do another record like season with 95 points or so.
Ancelotti is not a master at winning championships, he shows himself well in cup matches. So it’s not worth waiting for Real Madrid to win in La Liga, and in the Champions League next season. The team is too weak, and there are no gains. Ramos is gone, Varane will leave soon. The midfielders have grown old and cannot keep up with the rhythm of the game. In the attack, one Benzema and he is no longer young. Buying one or two top players won't solve the problem. We need players for every position, except the goalkeeper.

Well, I like that Vinicius Junior from time to time, but he is also not constantly playing on a high level. He is not a guy who guarantees you 25 goals or more in La Liga per season. That's why superstars like Messi or Ronaldo are important to these clubs. In most of the cases you need an absolute ice cold top scorer to win trophies. I know Chelsea won the CL and didn't really have a top scorer, but usually that's the case. Benzema is ok, but as you said he is not the youngest either. In the end the mix of older and younger players is also important though.

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July 04, 2021, 11:43:35 AM
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There have been some rumours and news like Varane wants to leave Real Madrid. And Manchester United have come into line for him already. It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.

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There have been some rumours and news like Varane wants to leave Real Madrid. And Manchester United have come into line for him already. It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.

If this rumor is true, next season will be miserable for Real Madrid. First, there is only one experienced striker in their squad. If Benzema is injured, it will be difficult for Real Madrid to beat any weaker team. Second, their best and main defender Sergio Ramos has now joined PSG. If Varane leaves Real, Real Madrid will not have an experienced defender to handle the defense. The title cannot be won by relying on an experienced coach alone. Need to have a good squad.

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July 04, 2021, 02:06:52 PM
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If this rumor is true, next season will be miserable for Real Madrid. First, there is only one experienced striker in their squad. If Benzema is injured, it will be difficult for Real Madrid to beat any weaker team. Second, their best and main defender Sergio Ramos has now joined PSG. If Varane leaves Real, Real Madrid will not have an experienced defender to handle the defense. The title cannot be won by relying on an experienced coach alone. Need to have a good squad.
Barcelona have a good coach who help them to finish last season very well. They will have a stable condition with a same coach and with a few good transfer, Aguero, Delay.

If Barcelona can not be stronger in a new season, in La Liga, Atletico Madrid will be the strongest and best candidate for the championship again.

Real Madrid will begin a new season with many doubt and I don't think they can beat either Atletico or Barcelona in order to take the championship.

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July 04, 2021, 05:12:00 PM
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If this rumor is true, next season will be miserable for Real Madrid. First, there is only one experienced striker in their squad. If Benzema is injured, it will be difficult for Real Madrid to beat any weaker team. Second, their best and main defender Sergio Ramos has now joined PSG. If Varane leaves Real, Real Madrid will not have an experienced defender to handle the defense. The title cannot be won by relying on an experienced coach alone. Need to have a good squad.
Barcelona have a good coach who help them to finish last season very well. They will have a stable condition with a same coach and with a few good transfer, Aguero, Delay.

If Barcelona can not be stronger in a new season, in La Liga, Atletico Madrid will be the strongest and best candidate for the championship again.

Real Madrid will begin a new season with many doubt and I don't think they can beat either Atletico or Barcelona in order to take the championship.

At the start of the previous season, the Barcelona team was almost devastated. They lost many matches at once. Gradually Koeman stabilized the team. Barcelona has completed a number of transfers this season. To make the team stronger. Messi may not change the team. He will stay in Barcelona for one more season.
Atletico Madrid has put in a great performance this season. The team hasn’t changed much. Hopefully, they will perform well next season.

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July 04, 2021, 05:16:18 PM
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Barcelona have a good coach who help them to finish last season very well. They will have a stable condition with a same coach and with a few good transfer, Aguero, Delay.

I really don't like Koeman so much, maybe because of some decisions took after his appointment. One of this was Suarez who was a key player and in just a few months after Koeman appointment he was sold to Atletico and last season he helped them win the LaLiga title. And with a pproper striker's absence, Barcelona struggled so much otherwise they would have been the another team contesting in top 3 positions of LaLiga title.
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July 04, 2021, 05:32:09 PM
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If this rumor is true, next season will be miserable for Real Madrid. First, there is only one experienced striker in their squad. If Benzema is injured, it will be difficult for Real Madrid to beat any weaker team. Second, their best and main defender Sergio Ramos has now joined PSG. If Varane leaves Real, Real Madrid will not have an experienced defender to handle the defense. The title cannot be won by relying on an experienced coach alone. Need to have a good squad.
Barcelona have a good coach who help them to finish last season very well. They will have a stable condition with a same coach and with a few good transfer, Aguero, Delay.

If Barcelona can not be stronger in a new season, in La Liga, Atletico Madrid will be the strongest and best candidate for the championship again.

Real Madrid will begin a new season with many doubt and I don't think they can beat either Atletico or Barcelona in order to take the championship.

Hm are you sure that Koeman is such a good coach? He made a number of wrong decisions and every time I see him standing next to the pitch it feels like he is missing this special Aura like other coaches, Guardiola, Zidane, Klopp and even Enrique somehow. I think aura is certainly one aspect that counts. When you fully trust your coach and you are 3 - 0 down at halftime and he says "we are going to win this", you really feel it's possible. If the coach lacks this quality, you would think "is he insane? It's not even worth playing the second half". I don't know, I don't think Koeman was the right decision.

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July 04, 2021, 05:52:37 PM
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I really don't like Koeman so much, maybe because of some decisions took after his appointment. One of this was Suarez who was a key player and in just a few months after Koeman appointment he was sold to Atletico and last season he helped them win the LaLiga title. And with a pproper striker's absence, Barcelona struggled so much otherwise they would have been the another team contesting in top 3 positions of LaLiga title.
I also think that he is not a suitable coach for Barcelona, ​​but we do not have the capacity to get him out of his seat there. I don't understand why the Barcelona management gave him a chance after they saw his work for one season?

Next season I hope Barcelona have a new coach who deserves more than Koeman. I dream that Xavi is willing to lead Barcelona next season or the following season. Xavi is a coach who, in my opinion, understand the Barcelona game better.

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July 04, 2021, 06:48:27 PM
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There have been some rumours and news like Varane wants to leave Real Madrid. And Manchester United have come into line for him already. It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.

If this rumor is true, next season will be miserable for Real Madrid. First, there is only one experienced striker in their squad. If Benzema is injured, it will be difficult for Real Madrid to beat any weaker team. Second, their best and main defender Sergio Ramos has now joined PSG. If Varane leaves Real, Real Madrid will not have an experienced defender to handle the defense. The title cannot be won by relying on an experienced coach alone. Need to have a good squad.
In my view Varane is not very good so if he does leave it shouldn't be a serious problem for Madrid either. In fact, Madrid still has other experienced players like Marcelo and also, Real Madrid have got David Alaba from Bayern Munich on a free agent. I think that's a good thing, Alaba is still having a good and productive age at 29 and also, there are many other experienced players that Madrid have in every position, so I don't think losing Varane is something to make a mess.

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July 04, 2021, 07:13:36 PM
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Carlo Ancelotti is finally back at Real Madrid after 6 years. He became the manager of Bayern, Napoli and Everton in this period. I'm actually really happy to see him back at the club. Real Madrid had really nice years with Carlo Ancelotti. They needed a savior now and I think they found it. I'm hoping to see Ancelotti making the right transfers for the team and helping the team become much more competitive in the La Liga and the Champions League next season.
Certainly,Madrid will do well again with Ancelotti.He's a coach that knows the system.His modus operandi is one that Real Madrid loves,his style of football, and his game formation is what makes madrid remember him.But he must focus's his attention on the defence line,with Ramos out,if not replaced with a better defender,the backline will give him problem in the upcoming season.

I'm quite sure that he will solve the defender problem at the team right now. I trust him about he will be making the right decision for the centre-back position. There are some rumours about Varane also like he wants to leave this summer. I think that they should definitely keep him at the team and do whatever he needs. As far as I remember, Zidane discovered his potential and brought him up to the first team. Now, Zidane is gone. Maybe one of the reasons he wants to leave is that. If they don't bother keeping him at the team, it looks like Manchester Utd are preparing to make an offer to him.

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July 04, 2021, 09:09:35 PM
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In any case, the very status of both the super club and the financial capabilities should allow Real Madrid to find defenders of a decent level for themselves. As for Ramos, I would like to say the following: Sergio was not just a defender, but the leader of the team, the so-called leader of the locker room. It was not by chance that there was information that the non-extension of the contract was due to the deterioration of relations between Ramos and Florentino Perez, when after the 1-4 defeat to Ajax, Ramos, who missed the game due to disqualification, stood up for the team, and then clashed verbally with the boss. Therefore, everything is not clear here, especially since Ancelotti stated that he could not imagine a team without Ramos.
Ramos was always a bad person who he was always a dirty player that played horrible in the sense that he wasn't afraid of getting carded and he made horrible tackles for years, specially against Barcelona on the big players like messi, he just played with his emotions and angry instead of just being a defender that follows the rules, the years with him and pepe together were one of the worst years to watch Real because they would rather tackle and kick you in the leg instead of defending the ball, hell even if they can tackle the ball they went for the people.

I understand Perez not being fine with him being a dick to him, he is the president and Ramos is just a player, if you as a player do not like the president that pays your salary then go ahead and leave, I think he should not be missed at all.

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