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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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August 02, 2022, 09:43:06 AM
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You are too skeptical about Barcelona's finances which are quite dark and have passed. If they recruit new players by exceeding the capacity of other clubs, it means that the news you read about Barcelona is really outdated. If we look at Barcelona stealing the spotlight again after a few purchases and he is now negotiating a new deal to get Silva. The logic is that there are things in Barcelona finances that don't leak to the public where they make money.
Barcelona financial situation was indeed at the beginning of the opening of the transfer market reportedly experiencing a financial crisis, but Juan Laporta was able to get an injection of funds through several options, one of which was selling 15% of television rights to Sixth Street and Barcelona also getting an injection of funds from sponsors, so Barcelona could bring in several top player in this transfer market. But until now their finances are also not fully stable because Barcelona still have salary debts to their players. I think if Barcelona have a good trend next season for sure they will be able to improve the club finances and be able to pay off all the salaries that are in arrears. now the steps taken by Juan Reporta are expected to be in bringing Barcelona to success next season, meaning they have invested a lot in the market this summer, at least they have to win the Laliga trophy from Real Madrid.

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August 02, 2022, 10:47:21 AM
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It could be like that, but if you look at the friendly match some time ago with all the emotions that were spilled there, it's clear that this will revive things that have been lost for a long time now Grin
The fact is that apart from the competition in the next season that I am waiting for, El Clasico is now one of the things that must be waited for as well because indeed this will be too bad to miss.
The tense friendly match is already hot, what if it's El Clasico later.
El Clasico is a very exciting match in La Liga every season. Moreover, this season Barcelona will have their new star in the El Clasico next season, Lewandowski, which is definitely very interesting to follow. Next season's Laliga will start in 11 days for sure all teams will prepare their squad as well as possible for the upcoming season. such as Valencia are currently trying to get Juventus midfielder Arthur Melo on loan. Atletico Madrid also don't want to be left behind this summer, recently they also expressed interest in Iker Bravo and even they will compete with real madrid for Iker Bravo. promotion club this season like Girona seems they are very ready with the squad last season there are no major changes they did in the transfer window.
Btw, in terms of transfers, I haven't really paid much attention to clubs in La Liga lately because La Liga seems to be passive and doesn't transfer too many players except Barcelona. Unlike clubs in other leagues such as the EPL, where there are some significant changes for each club.
Talking about El Clasico will no doubt be more interesting than before.

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August 02, 2022, 11:19:22 AM
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It could be like that, but if you look at the friendly match some time ago with all the emotions that were spilled there, it's clear that this will revive things that have been lost for a long time now Grin
The fact is that apart from the competition in the next season that I am waiting for, El Clasico is now one of the things that must be waited for as well because indeed this will be too bad to miss.
The tense friendly match is already hot, what if it's El Clasico later.
El Clasico is a very exciting match in La Liga every season. Moreover, this season Barcelona will have their new star in the El Clasico next season, Lewandowski, which is definitely very interesting to follow. Next season's Laliga will start in 11 days for sure all teams will prepare their squad as well as possible for the upcoming season. such as Valencia are currently trying to get Juventus midfielder Arthur Melo on loan. Atletico Madrid also don't want to be left behind this summer, recently they also expressed interest in Iker Bravo and even they will compete with real madrid for Iker Bravo. promotion club this season like Girona seems they are very ready with the squad last season there are no major changes they did in the transfer window.
Btw, in terms of transfers, I haven't really paid much attention to clubs in La Liga lately because La Liga seems to be passive and doesn't transfer too many players except Barcelona. Unlike clubs in other leagues such as the EPL, where there are some significant changes for each club.
Talking about El Clasico will no doubt be more interesting than before.
Yes, you are right, when it comes to transfers in La Liga, Barcelona dominates. There is no active movement from other teams, Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid almost no movement in my opinion even though there are several players who join. Actually this is not a problem when they are not active in the transfer market. But I think there will be similarities in the game, because it can be said that they will not change their strategy because most of the players who played were players last season.

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August 02, 2022, 01:43:07 PM
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It is true, Real Madrid didn't release all their main players in that match, while Barcelona played with full key players. Actually, it's an unequal match, Real Madrid seems not really serious to play against Barcelona. Ancellotti may just focus on giving the new players time to play against a strong team. He also wants to know the quality of the substitution players. Based on this matter, surely this match doesn't determine anything. We cannot judge Barcelona already stronger because they can beat Real Madrid by scoring a single goal only.



Pre-season cannot be an illustration for the next game. I haven't felt any concerns about the players madrid have for next season. They are still capable enough to compete with other teams. Modric, kroos, and Casemiro continue to be Anceloti's top choices. They became the heart of Madrid's game.
Indeed these three players are seniors, anceloti has a tough task if the three of them retire. I hope Anceloti will not be late looking for players so that the champion generation continues and does not make mistakes like Barcelona.

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August 02, 2022, 01:49:53 PM
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Yeah laporta didn't agree to sell de jong. He was telling de jong to stay in barcelona. The problem is barcelona was feeling difficult to sell their players. Yeah this team sold more shares to buy more players but the financial didn't good. Barcelona must have sold some of its players to meet the rules of financial fair play. In my opinion if barlona was too fast to buy so many players from another club.
After they managed to get the players they really wanted, now they have to consider what is best for the team's finances. Selling players is an option, but so far they haven't really wanted to do it. The transfer market will close soon, so they have to move quickly in making decisions. If not they themselves will be in trouble later.
Barcelona has intention to sell of players but the offers have not yet come from another club. MU was the one who has been betting for de jong but the player was rejecting it. There was a financial fair play rules in the la liga. That's why barcelona must have sold some of its players to comply with the rules in la liga before the season will be started very soon. You must see some barcelona's player like pjanic already agreed with 60% salary cut.
Barcelona was almost cutting salary for all of its player.

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August 02, 2022, 02:16:06 PM
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Come on mate, it's just a friendly match even though they won there but in this case the majority of Madrid players are young players but indeed when you see it it's like a mini elclasico because it seems that Barcelona really intends even with the obstacles and hard tackles there.
This doesn't determine anything really and when I say Madrid's defense can actually be said to be strong but there is still a need for adjustments there because until now Rudiger and Tchouameni in midfield are also still in the adaptation stage and don't have a strong chemistry there.
It is true, Real Madrid didn't release all their main players in that match, while Barcelona played with full key players. Actually, it's an unequal match, Real Madrid seems not really serious to play against Barcelona. Ancellotti may just focus on giving the new players time to play against a strong team. He also wants to know the quality of the substitution players. Based on this matter, surely this match doesn't determine anything. We cannot judge Barcelona already stronger because they can beat Real Madrid by scoring a single goal only.
Anyone can judge how the Pre-season match, entitled El Clasico, is going. Barcelona started the game by fielding the main squad, while Real Madrid was dominated by substitutes. The final result 1-0 for Barcelona victory cannot be said that Barcelona quality is above Real Madrid, I think Barcelona needs to improve their attacking power to get more goals in other matches, because against team B Real Madrid can only score one goal.

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August 02, 2022, 02:39:39 PM
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Barcelona has intention to sell of players but the offers have not yet come from another club. MU was the one who has been betting for de jong but the player was rejecting it. There was a financial fair play rules in the la liga. That's why barcelona must have sold some of its players to comply with the rules in la liga before the season will be started very soon. You must see some barcelona's player like pjanic already agreed with 60% salary cut.
Barcelona was almost cutting salary for all of its player.
They are over spending again even they did not resolve their finance crisis. Buying many new players and did not sell enough players to balance their finance sheet. De Jong is not happy with how Barcelona treat him. They should know latest seasons, De Jong is one of most contributive players and he has most stable form.

Now they want him to leave and did not respect him. I think De Jong does no longer want to play for Barcelona with all thjngs happened last few months.

Salary cut, it is ridiculous because they want current players cut off their salary but are ready to give high salary to new players.

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August 02, 2022, 02:54:26 PM
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It is true, Real Madrid didn't release all their main players in that match, while Barcelona played with full key players. Actually, it's an unequal match, Real Madrid seems not really serious to play against Barcelona. Ancellotti may just focus on giving the new players time to play against a strong team. He also wants to know the quality of the substitution players. Based on this matter, surely this match doesn't determine anything. We cannot judge Barcelona already stronger because they can beat Real Madrid by scoring a single goal only.
Pre-season cannot be an illustration for the next game. I haven't felt any concerns about the players madrid have for next season. They are still capable enough to compete with other teams. Modric, kroos, and Casemiro continue to be Anceloti's top choices. They became the heart of Madrid's game.
Indeed these three players are seniors, anceloti has a tough task if the three of them retire. I hope Anceloti will not be late looking for players so that the champion generation continues and does not make mistakes like Barcelona.
Pre-season is only to test their mentality and for new players it can be said that the motivation to face the League which will start later, so there is no need to worry for Real Madrid fans even though they lost 1 goal to Barcelona it was all just friendship but heated up I saw a lot of people fighting in the field.
It's a midfielder that Ancelotti really wants, but that could still be in for a few seasons with Real Madrid, but you're right Ancelotti should be able to find regeneration for their replacement so that this can make up for the strength of Real Madrid's midfield.

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August 02, 2022, 03:09:45 PM
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It is true, Real Madrid didn't release all their main players in that match, while Barcelona played with full key players. Actually, it's an unequal match, Real Madrid seems not really serious to play against Barcelona. Ancellotti may just focus on giving the new players time to play against a strong team. He also wants to know the quality of the substitution players. Based on this matter, surely this match doesn't determine anything. We cannot judge Barcelona already stronger because they can beat Real Madrid by scoring a single goal only.



Pre-season cannot be an illustration for the next game. I haven't felt any concerns about the players madrid have for next season. They are still capable enough to compete with other teams. Modric, kroos, and Casemiro continue to be Anceloti's top choices. They became the heart of Madrid's game.
Indeed these three players are seniors, anceloti has a tough task if the three of them retire. I hope Anceloti will not be late looking for players so that the champion generation continues and does not make mistakes like Barcelona.
Yes pre-season is projected to see how strong their squad depth is. I don't care about the result of the match winning or losing, I think it's just a bonus. Real Madrid did not field all the starting players, because their focus was not on winning. Moreover, their squad has not changed much for next season.
As for Barcelona, I think it's natural when they field the full squad, because they want to see their new squad play.

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Pre-season cannot be an illustration for the next game. I haven't felt any concerns about the players madrid have for next season. They are still capable enough to compete with other teams. Modric, kroos, and Casemiro continue to be Anceloti's top choices. They became the heart of Madrid's game.
Indeed these three players are seniors, anceloti has a tough task if the three of them retire. I hope Anceloti will not be late looking for players so that the champion generation continues and does not make mistakes like Barcelona.
Yes pre-season is projected to see how strong their squad depth is. I don't care about the result of the match winning or losing, I think it's just a bonus. Real Madrid did not field all the starting players, because their focus was not on winning. Moreover, their squad has not changed much for next season.
As for Barcelona, I think it's natural when they field the full squad, because they want to see their new squad play.
Real Madrid's squad has barely changed this season, in other words the Real Madrid squad has been formed with a very strong chemistry between players, Ancelotti still really believes in the quality of players Real Madrid currently has. While Barcelona is forming a new force, new signings need to get minutes in the friendly, one of the reasons Xavi fielded all the main players in the match against Real Madrid so the players could understand each other.

The results in the test match are just a formality, nothing special in my opinion, the real strength will be tested in the official match. Soon the new season will start soon, we will see which team will be the best, whether Real Madrid is still relying on the strength of last season or Barcelona with its new strength.

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August 02, 2022, 03:41:41 PM
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I still feel this is too bold an act, it's true for their recruitment to do something very good there, but is it really worth the threat of their financial condition getting worse?

On the other hand, if Barcelona does not take action, the situation will worsen, the club's lack of achievements and financial problems  that do not end will lead them to a slump in achievement. Barcelona's management chose to spend over $100 million to buy players despite news of the club's financial crisis.

For me this is a business strategy where they have the opportunity to win prizes from several competitions that are follow plus Barcelona's new stars can increase jersey sales and excite fans to fill the stadium every time Barcelona have a match, this is much better than doing nothing.

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August 02, 2022, 04:00:23 PM
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It is true, Real Madrid didn't release all their main players in that match, while Barcelona played with full key players. Actually, it's an unequal match, Real Madrid seems not really serious to play against Barcelona. Ancellotti may just focus on giving the new players time to play against a strong team. He also wants to know the quality of the substitution players. Based on this matter, surely this match doesn't determine anything. We cannot judge Barcelona already stronger because they can beat Real Madrid by scoring a single goal only.
Pre-season cannot be an illustration for the next game. I haven't felt any concerns about the players madrid have for next season. They are still capable enough to compete with other teams. Modric, kroos, and Casemiro continue to be Anceloti's top choices. They became the heart of Madrid's game.
Indeed these three players are seniors, anceloti has a tough task if the three of them retire. I hope Anceloti will not be late looking for players so that the champion generation continues and does not make mistakes like Barcelona.
Yes pre-season is projected to see how strong their squad depth is. I don't care about the result of the match winning or losing, I think it's just a bonus. Real Madrid did not field all the starting players, because their focus was not on winning. Moreover, their squad has not changed much for next season.
As for Barcelona, I think it's natural when they field the full squad, because they want to see their new squad play.

During the pre-season matches, each team identifies their weak points and takes necessary measures to solve the problems. Although winning these matches is not important, but I think these matches are very important to strengthen their own team. Several new players have been added to the Barcelona squad. So these matches were very important for Barcelona.

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August 02, 2022, 04:05:29 PM
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Why it is funny? I don't think it is funny, Xavi has done a great job in this current transfer window. Of course, every player wants to play under Xavi's management, everyone knows Xavi is a great person although he still can't prove his quality as a coach. Seeing positive impacts on Barcelona squad after Xavi becomes Barcelona head coach, I am sure Xavi will be successful this season. They have signed some top players that can bring instant impacts on Barcelona performance. We can see it once Barcelona can beat Real Madrid in a friendly match lately.


By bringing in players regardless of how their financial condition is now? Or maybe by trying to keep buying time for other clubs who want to sign some of their players?
I still feel this is too bold an act, it's true for their recruitment to do something very good there, but is it really worth the threat of their financial condition getting worse?
The team already anticipated it but im sure if that was giving a very big impact to the its financial condition. Get bunch of money selling more shares to the broadcaster but buying so many players at once without thinking about the future of team. This condition is very very so difficult. I think that it would better if team sold some of its players first but it's too late for this club. The financial impact will be in long term.

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August 02, 2022, 04:05:49 PM
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I read some dramas related to De Jong transfer For example, De Jong is reluctant to move because Man United is not competing in the Champions League
Then Chelsea came to make an offer well Chelsea should have met the requirements because one of the teams that will compete in the Champions League
There's also news saying that Barcelona hasn't paid his salary yet so he can't move because of that, can we believe this news?

Everything is so, except that Chelsea did not make an official offer and everything remained at the level of discussion. Today I read in the news that Barcelona management told Xavi to put pressure on De Jong (promising him to have very little playing time) to leave the club. What a disgrace. "More than a club"  Grin

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August 02, 2022, 04:28:37 PM
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I read some dramas related to De Jong transfer For example, De Jong is reluctant to move because Man United is not competing in the Champions League
Then Chelsea came to make an offer well Chelsea should have met the requirements because one of the teams that will compete in the Champions League
There's also news saying that Barcelona hasn't paid his salary yet so he can't move because of that, can we believe this news?
Everything is so, except that Chelsea did not make an official offer and everything remained at the level of discussion. Today I read in the news that Barcelona management told Xavi to put pressure on De Jong (promising him to have very little playing time) to leave the club. What a disgrace. "More than a club"  Grin

Barcelona has not any other alternative now. They are in a financial crisis. The cost of the squad must now be reduced. de Jong was asked to cut wages. Perhaps de Jong is not interested in cutting wages. So he was offered to leave the club. But de Jong is not willing to leave the club. What steps can Barcelona take to deal with the financial crisis now?

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August 02, 2022, 04:29:10 PM
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I read some dramas related to De Jong transfer For example, De Jong is reluctant to move because Man United is not competing in the Champions League
Then Chelsea came to make an offer well Chelsea should have met the requirements because one of the teams that will compete in the Champions League
There's also news saying that Barcelona hasn't paid his salary yet so he can't move because of that, can we believe this news?

Everything is so, except that Chelsea did not make an official offer and everything remained at the level of discussion. Today I read in the news that Barcelona management told Xavi to put pressure on De Jong (promising him to have very little playing time) to leave the club. What a disgrace. "More than a club"  Grin
I think it's natural for Barcelona to ask Xavi to put pressure on De Jong, because the club needs a financial balance. Barcelona had asked him to leave, but in refusing it, he also rejected the offer of a pay cut offered by Barcelona.
now Barcelona have given two options for De Jong. If he wants to continue playing with Barcelona, ​​he must be willing to have his salary cut, but if he doesn't want his salary cut, the club will release him on loan to another club. Now the choice is in the hands of De Jong.

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August 02, 2022, 05:11:40 PM
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I think it's natural for Barcelona to ask Xavi to put pressure on De Jong, because the club needs a financial balance. Barcelona had asked him to leave, but in refusing it, he also rejected the offer of a pay cut offered by Barcelona.
now Barcelona have given two options for De Jong. If he wants to continue playing with Barcelona, ​​he must be willing to have his salary cut, but if he doesn't want his salary cut, the club will release him on loan to another club. Now the choice is in the hands of De Jong.

Frankie De Jong doesn't want to leave Barcelona because he likes playing and devoting his time for the club. But due to the critical finance problems they're having, the club and the president have no option than to let go of some players inother to raise and reduce some the pending debts on the team. The club once put a lists of players they're allowing to leave as free agents, for Frankie situation, he's good midfielder that no manager wouldn't hope to make him one of their key player but with the present situation, barça wants him to leave since he's not accepting any pay cut in his salary. Manchester United which were in pursuit with Frankie have already given up because the Player wants to feature in the champions league next season and united didn't qualify for it. Although with time, the club and the Frankie's agent will agree on terms.

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August 02, 2022, 05:28:16 PM
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Now they want him to leave and did not respect him. I think De Jong does no longer want to play for Barcelona with all thjngs happened last few months.
Seeing the development of news about De Jong, it seems that it is indeed better for him to leave Barcelona and look for another club, this can not be separated after he was deployed as a central defender against New York Red Bull, of course this invites public questions about Xavi attitude which fielded him in  improper position. Manchester has sent the latest offer to Barcelona and the leak of Manchester United will make De Jong the highest paid player in Manchester United. I think de Jong should think twice before turning down an offer from Manchester United after he was treated strangely at Barcelona.

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August 02, 2022, 05:52:31 PM
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I rule out talking about who will be the champion. The most important thing now is how the competition will run tight. Because I'm also a little disappointed if Barcelona win later but without a tough competition, as happened last season with Real Madrid. My focus for next season is the league has to be tight.
Certainly a competitive league is good for the players and the spectators. Because it will be difficult to guess who is the champion and there is no dominance. But I think La Liga is still the same. Atletico, Barcelona and Madrid are still the clubs that will dominate the rankings 1-3.
For this season, of course, Barcelona has spent a lot of money making transfers. Compared to atletico and Madrid barca have been very active this season. But that's not a guarantee of champions, they need consistency.
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August 02, 2022, 06:25:29 PM
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I rule out talking about who will be the champion. The most important thing now is how the competition will run tight. Because I'm also a little disappointed if Barcelona win later but without a tough competition, as happened last season with Real Madrid. My focus for next season is the league has to be tight.
Certainly a competitive league is good for the players and the spectators. Because it will be difficult to guess who is the champion and there is no dominance. But I think La Liga is still the same. Atletico, Barcelona and Madrid are still the clubs that will dominate the rankings 1-3.
For this season, of course, Barcelona has spent a lot of money making transfers. Compared to atletico and Madrid barca have been very active this season. But that's not a guarantee of champions, they need consistency.
The dominance of the three has been going on for quite a while in La Liga until now, the three teams are the strongest teams in existence although trophy struggles usually often occur just  between  Barcelona and Madrid, for next season it looks like the La Liga journey will not be much different from the previous season, namely Madrid and Barcelona will remain in front, while Atletico of course we can't expect much, if you look at the current movement of the team, it is clear that Barcelona is the club that is most active in maneuvering in the transfer market compared to Madrid and Atlético and I think Barcelona deserve to be favorites in next season, for some reason I think that next season Xavi will be able to get his first trophy with Barcelona with the current squad, because when Barcelona were in a slump last season and it was doubtful that they would even be able to qualify for the Champions League with a mediocre squad but Xavi was able to change Barcelona game into better and  finally they finished in second place and if we compare it with the current squad which is quite perfect, of course it looks like the la liga trophy will belong to Xavi next season.
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