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January 07, 2024, 08:55:58 AM
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Arda Guler finally got the confidence to make his debut in a Madrid uniform since being recruited from Fenerbahce last summer. I see his rating is quite good even though he didn't appear in full until 90 minutes. I liked the way he played, Acelotti used him as a playmaker, and he didn't disappoint at all.

Los Blancos 3-1 victory over Arandina will be motivation for young players like Guler, I hope that in the future Ancelotti can give him playing minutes in La Liga. He can become a big star at Santiago Bernebeu, his skills and quality will continue to develop because he joins the right team. I think the incident with Ceballos is normal, both of them were fine afterwards.

After the match Ancelotti praised Guler quality in general, I think slowly Guler can gain the manager trust in the future. I hope Guler can avoid injury again, so he can develop even better in the future.
Arda Guler didn't play the full game in this match and I saw that Real Madrid's performance with their second tier team was very bad.
Against a team that was quite weak, the REal Madrid team did not manage to fully control the match and win the match in the first half when they played with their substitute players, so here it is clear that the Real Madrid team is not that strong without its main players, this is quite dangerous for the team when the coach does this. lots of player rotation.
And I see that Arda Guler's performance is still quite far below many people's expectations.



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January 07, 2024, 10:01:43 AM
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I really enjoyed the Arandina vs Real Madrid match in the Copa Del Rey competition last night and seeing Arda Guler make his first debut as a Real Madrid player was definitely a very happy thing for him. Fans can't wait to see the performance of the Turkish wonderkid after suffering an injury since the start of this season. What Arda Guler does is very mature on the field and his vision in playing football really shows how good his qualities are. Arda Guler repeatedly created opportunities from kicks to assists, but none of them resulted in any goals. In the second half he was withdrawn and I think that was enough for him to prepare for tougher matches like La Liga or the Champions League.

What was no less exciting was seeing Brahim Diaz's performance in this match because thanks to him Real Madrid was able to score 3 goals. Brahim Diaz was key in the penalty kick scored by Joselu, after which he scored the second goal for Real Madrid, and in the third goal he provided the assist for the third goal scored by Rodrygo. Well, I think lending Brahim Diaz to Milan in the last two seasons is very meaningful if his performance is like this and will definitely be very helpful for Real Madrid in all existing competitions.

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January 07, 2024, 10:03:22 AM
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And I see that Arda Guler's performance is still quite far below many people's expectations.

Eventually Guller can play, although it seems that Ancelotti is very careful. It was reported that Ancelotti would feature against Mallorca but that was not done because Ancelotti was worried about Mallorca's aggressive style of play.
Looking at Guller's appearance, he was pretty good. Guller was able to organize attacks and provide several key passes. Although Arandina's quality is far below Real Madrid, Guller still needs to prove himself capable of competing to play in La Liga or UCL. Indeed, when viewed in terms of posture, he looks small, he just needs to continue to train and increase muscle time.

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January 07, 2024, 10:15:25 AM
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And I see that Arda Guler's performance is still quite far below many people's expectations.

Ancelotti was actually satisfied with Arda Guler's first appearance so this is very important.  Smiley  Like I said it was Arda's first game in his Real Madrid career so it is totally normal to not see him showing an incredible performance. He will need some time to adapt by performing in more games. Cup games are his biggest chance for now.

But if Ancelotti continues to be satisfied with his effort we might start seeing him play in La Liga games as well for short time periods. But of course it is very difficult to see him starting to play in league games for a very long time period for now. The competition among the players is really tough due to the general quality.

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January 07, 2024, 10:44:04 AM
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And I see that Arda Guler's performance is still quite far below many people's expectations.

Ancelotti was actually satisfied with Arda Guler's first appearance so this is very important.  Smiley  Like I said it was Arda's first game in his Real Madrid career so it is totally normal to not see him showing an incredible performance. He will need some time to adapt by performing in more games. Cup games are his biggest chance for now.

But if Ancelotti continues to be satisfied with his effort we might start seeing him play in La Liga games as well for short time periods. But of course it is very difficult to see him starting to play in league games for a very long time period for now. The competition among the players is really tough due to the general quality.

He was on target for Real Madrid more than twice last night, most importantly he's always and already confident in the game I saw, worked and played together as a team player should. Just like you've said, he shouldn't be rushed into serious La Liga games, they should take it slow with him amd make sure he's protected.

Joselu for that spot kick makes sense, so he can gradually build confidence with scoring goals, they have a long season to go from here.

Brahim Diaz makes me happy a lot, how was he able to score that goal quick? These solid players, the future of Real Madrid squad is in good hands.

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January 07, 2024, 12:04:59 PM
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It was a good match for Real Madrid, where young players were tested. As a Turk, I was proud to see Arda Güler on the field in Real Madrid's starting lineup at the age of 18. It can be said that Arda made a good start. A free kick hit the post. He made good attempts with a through pass. Brahim's goal in the match was also very nice. From time to time, Arda can join the match as a substitute.

I was hoping that it would take longer for Real Madrid to score the goal to see Ancelotti having a sweat Cheesy But the double punch was pretty much the end of the game. Real Madrid was the much better team and Arandina couldn't oppose the pressure, but that wasn't surprising. Though it took Real Madrid more time to score than they had planned I guess Smiley

The job is done and that is all that counts for Ancelotti and he was able to give some of his stars a good and important rest.

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January 07, 2024, 12:15:13 PM
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And I see that Arda Guler's performance is still quite far below many people's expectations.

Ancelotti was actually satisfied with Arda Guler's first appearance so this is very important.  Smiley  Like I said it was Arda's first game in his Real Madrid career so it is totally normal to not see him showing an incredible performance. He will need some time to adapt by performing in more games. Cup games are his biggest chance for now.

But if Ancelotti continues to be satisfied with his effort we might start seeing him play in La Liga games as well for short time periods. But of course it is very difficult to see him starting to play in league games for a very long time period for now. The competition among the players is really tough due to the general quality.

Even though he was not scoring but his performance was so excellent and it feels like that arda has been playing for long time with real madrid. Im aware that how arda can become a superstar in the future. In fact, he has been helping the club to create some chances.
Glad to see that if arda potentially become the next superstar. Ancellotti could always take the right player to be developed. Even though this is his debut to play in real madrid but he was showing amazing performance.

He was not being so selfish and he tries so hard to create a good chance for his teammates. Im really happy to see that his performance is just getting better. Arda can still develop his performance even better than before.
Arda is still young and there will be a lot of time for him to increase his skill by trying to learn from his senior. There will be so many great players will able to told him about how to play better.

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January 07, 2024, 12:21:23 PM
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And I see that Arda Guler's performance is still quite far below many people's expectations.

Eventually Guller can play, although it seems that Ancelotti is very careful. It was reported that Ancelotti would feature against Mallorca but that was not done because Ancelotti was worried about Mallorca's aggressive style of play.
Looking at Guller's appearance, he was pretty good. Guller was able to organize attacks and provide several key passes. Although Arandina's quality is far below Real Madrid, Guller still needs to prove himself capable of competing to play in La Liga or UCL. Indeed, when viewed in terms of posture, he looks small, he just needs to continue to train and increase muscle time.

This player is indeed prepared for the future of Real Madrid and he needs to get more opportunities to play, I watched this match and Guller could play a role there maybe in the next 2 seasons he can take a place in the main line up. Many people say Real Madrid takes a long time to score perhaps they forgot that some players had just played their first game and obviously they need to adapt to each other, based on statistics Real Madrid has 15 shot attempts well this is a good start as a second tier player just waiting for the right time to prepare everything to be better and under control.

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January 07, 2024, 12:45:29 PM
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This player is indeed prepared for the future of Real Madrid and he needs to get more opportunities to play, I watched this match and Guller could play a role there maybe in the next 2 seasons he can take a place in the main line up. Many people say Real Madrid takes a long time to score perhaps they forgot that some players had just played their first game and obviously they need to adapt to each other, based on statistics Real Madrid has 15 shot attempts well this is a good start as a second tier player just waiting for the right time to prepare everything to be better and under control.
Carlo Ancelotti is a kindful coach and he is friendly as well as very helpful for young players. Through his coach career, he has helped many players found new chapters for their career and a most famous player is Andrea Pirlo. Pirlo was not a good player at Brescia then Inter Milan but when Ancelotti used Pirlo in AC Milan, he did not use Pirlo as a forward but as a central midfielder. This big change affected the career of Pirlo and he became a legendary midfielder at the position.

Guller will receive good guides and advice from Carlo Ancelotti and another good news for this young player is Carlo just signed a new contract with Real Madrid. So he will has Carlo as his coach next three seasons which are long enough for a young player to grow up and mature then become a star player.

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January 07, 2024, 02:01:18 PM
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Guller will receive good guides and advice from Carlo Ancelotti and another good news for this young player is Carlo just signed a new contract with Real Madrid. So he will has Carlo as his coach next three seasons which are long enough for a young player to grow up and mature then become a star player.
I think this is Guller's opportunity to quickly adapt to Madrid and under Ancelotti's tutelage there will certainly be an opportunity for Guller to become a star player in the future, performing well will certainly make Ancelotti happy to see his development after recovering from a long injury, young players are very good for a clubs, especially Madrid, have to face several matches outside Laliga such as the Copa Del Rey and UCL.

Of course, Ancelotti must be able to rotate his players so that no one gets injured so that he still has some better substitute players, especially keeping his players' performance in good condition. Young players like Guller must continue to be trained to become good players, especially considering that it is not easy to compete. in the title race, especially in Laliga and UCL, of course you need good tactics to get satisfactory results.

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Carlo Ancelotti is a kindful coach and he is friendly as well as very helpful for young players. Through his coach career, he has helped many players found new chapters for their career and a most famous player is Andrea Pirlo. Pirlo was not a good player at Brescia then Inter Milan but when Ancelotti used Pirlo in AC Milan, he did not use Pirlo as a forward but as a central midfielder. This big change affected the career of Pirlo and he became a legendary midfielder at the position.

Guller will receive good guides and advice from Carlo Ancelotti and another good news for this young player is Carlo just signed a new contract with Real Madrid. So he will has Carlo as his coach next three seasons which are long enough for a young player to grow up and mature then become a star player.
Carlo Ancelotti no doubt to give chance for young players and he helped many youth players get regular position with success has impressive performance, Vinicius Junior, Rodrygo, Camavinga, Valverde and many youth players in Real Madrid become the best players under his era. In this season seems Carlo Ancelotti will make Arda Guller become the next young players will fill regular position with Real Madrid after impressive debut match last night on Copa del Rey.
I think Real Madrid fans so excited after Carlo Ancelotti confirming extend contract two years later and he will make Madrid become top team with opportunity winning many trophies every season.

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I was hoping that it would take longer for Real Madrid to score the goal to see Ancelotti having a sweat Cheesy But the double punch was pretty much the end of the game. Real Madrid was the much better team and Arandina couldn't oppose the pressure, but that wasn't surprising. Though it took Real Madrid more time to score than they had planned I guess Smiley

The job is done and that is all that counts for Ancelotti and he was able to give some of his stars a good and important rest.
Arandina was not an equal opponent for Real Madrid even though Real Madrid took a long time to score three goals in that match. It looks like this season's Copa Del Rey could also be dominated by Real Madrid if Real Madrid can focus better as they have applied in La Liga this season. And it is important for Ancelotti to apply rest to his own players because this season, Real Madrid are still struggling in several competitions like last season, so they really need to rotate their players quite well.

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I was hoping that it would take longer for Real Madrid to score the goal to see Ancelotti having a sweat Cheesy But the double punch was pretty much the end of the game. Real Madrid was the much better team and Arandina couldn't oppose the pressure, but that wasn't surprising. Though it took Real Madrid more time to score than they had planned I guess Smiley

The job is done and that is all that counts for Ancelotti and he was able to give some of his stars a good and important rest.
Arandina was not an equal opponent for Real Madrid even though Real Madrid took a long time to score three goals in that match. It looks like this season's Copa Del Rey could also be dominated by Real Madrid if Real Madrid can focus better as they have applied in La Liga this season. And it is important for Ancelotti to apply rest to his own players because this season, Real Madrid are still struggling in several competitions like last season, so they really need to rotate their players quite well.
In the first half Ancelotti fielded a lot of substitute players and it was proven that Real Madrid's performance was quite poor and they couldn't even score a goal in the first half so in the second half Ancelotti started playing some of his main players.
Overall I think Real Madrid's performance was not too impressive and this victory was quite worthy of their achievement and in fact I think that with the supporting players the Real Madrid team should have been able to win because the opponents they faced were lower caste teams who had quite a difference in quality.

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January 07, 2024, 02:14:52 PM
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I think the same as you to be honest, Girona are good indeed but I don't think it is enough to put them ahead till the end of the season. Girona have beaten Barcelona and Atletico Madrid so they definitely have good skills but these are not. They have the combination of young and good players in the team which is working very well for them. But I think the match that will decide the fate of La Liga is the match between them in February. Whoever wins this match will get the hold of the League. If this ends in a draw then I think Real Madrid will still win the league, to be honest.

Yeah almost all of us agree that Real Madrid has a greater chance of winning the title this season than Girona there are many reasons why Real Madrid is more favored but after all we cannot underestimate Girona they still have a chance even if only a few percent. I agree with you that the match in February can determine who is the most worthy to win the title and the match will be played at  Real Madrid home of course it is an advantage for Real Madrid, previously the two teams had played last September and Real Madrid won it. By the way, Real Madrid is playing the Copa Del Rey match today against the lower division team but until the 25th minute there were no goals, unfortunately I bet Real Madrid scored 4 goals in this match lol but Real Madrid seems to play a young squad including Arda Guler players who have just joined this season. This should be the right moment to prove their abilities as young players
It was a good match for Real Madrid, where young players were tested. As a Turk, I was proud to see Arda Güler on the field in Real Madrid's starting lineup at the age of 18. It can be said that Arda made a good start. A free kick hit the post. He made good attempts with a through pass. Brahim's goal in the match was also very nice. From time to time, Arda can join the match as a substitute.

This year several clubs are giving their young players the opportunity to develop, it is not surprising that several clubs are fielding their young players as Real Madrid's starting lineup, it will be a big investment for the club in the future if Arda Güler plays satisfactorily in the next match then it is very likely that It will be Real Madrid's benchmark if several of their core players suffer injuries, Arda Güler could be a substitute in the future.

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I think the same as you to be honest, Girona are good indeed but I don't think it is enough to put them ahead till the end of the season. Girona have beaten Barcelona and Atletico Madrid so they definitely have good skills but these are not. They have the combination of young and good players in the team which is working very well for them. But I think the match that will decide the fate of La Liga is the match between them in February. Whoever wins this match will get the hold of the League. If this ends in a draw then I think Real Madrid will still win the league, to be honest.

Yeah almost all of us agree that Real Madrid has a greater chance of winning the title this season than Girona there are many reasons why Real Madrid is more favored but after all we cannot underestimate Girona they still have a chance even if only a few percent. I agree with you that the match in February can determine who is the most worthy to win the title and the match will be played at  Real Madrid home of course it is an advantage for Real Madrid, previously the two teams had played last September and Real Madrid won it. By the way, Real Madrid is playing the Copa Del Rey match today against the lower division team but until the 25th minute there were no goals, unfortunately I bet Real Madrid scored 4 goals in this match lol but Real Madrid seems to play a young squad including Arda Guler players who have just joined this season. This should be the right moment to prove their abilities as young players
It was a good match for Real Madrid, where young players were tested. As a Turk, I was proud to see Arda Güler on the field in Real Madrid's starting lineup at the age of 18. It can be said that Arda made a good start. A free kick hit the post. He made good attempts with a through pass. Brahim's goal in the match was also very nice. From time to time, Arda can join the match as a substitute.

This year several clubs are giving their young players the opportunity to develop, it is not surprising that several clubs are fielding their young players as Real Madrid's starting lineup, it will be a big investment for the club in the future if Arda Güler plays satisfactorily in the next match then it is very likely that It will be Real Madrid's benchmark if several of their core players suffer injuries, Arda Güler could be a substitute in the future.
Arda will probably be one of Real Madrid's reserves from now on. He will be a quality backup that can be evaluated on the wings. If the time comes, he can become a substitute in Real Madrid. For this reason, if a player is injured, he should make the most of the time he plays instead. It shows that 60 minutes is not enough.

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I think the same as you to be honest, Girona are good indeed but I don't think it is enough to put them ahead till the end of the season. Girona have beaten Barcelona and Atletico Madrid so they definitely have good skills but these are not. They have the combination of young and good players in the team which is working very well for them. But I think the match that will decide the fate of La Liga is the match between them in February. Whoever wins this match will get the hold of the League. If this ends in a draw then I think Real Madrid will still win the league, to be honest.

When Girona faced Atletico Madrid, everyone believed that Girona would lose that day, but the reality was different. Girona performed brilliantly and managed to win 4-3, it was really dramatic.

The match between Girona vs Madrid will still take place much later, around February 11, so there is still a big opportunity for Girona to develop a good strategy because even a draw will be very profitable for Girona. I'm sure Girona management is currently in a tense phase, everyone doesn't think they will be able to compete closely with Madrid to be at the top of the LaLiga standings.

Meanwhile, Barcelona, it seems, will have difficulty chasing Girona and Madrid, Barcelona has been wrong from the start, they have lost twice.

Not everybody saw the game ending that way, I'm a strong supporter of Girona this session but no against Real Madrid. Against Barcelona they showed class and made sure that they took three points back home. Judging from how they have played the last two clubs above ten position, I was suspecting a point to be shared between them.

That game still far, let's see them face these clubs in January before we start shifting focus on the games to be played February. If it's February, them the Champions League would come into mindset and consideration before using a full squad against Girona.


But Girona gave an important chance away to build a gap between them and Real Madrid and I think the loss against Real Madrid would have been key to that. But now they have to deal with the situation that Real Madrid wins the games even with low margins, but they win the games and collect the three points all the time. All that Girona can do is win their games and wait for mistakes. But too bad they lost their first game against Real Madrid at home because I am not very optimistic about the game in Santiago Bernabeu.
This season, Girona's odds are rather bright. Though the loss to Real Madrid was disappointing, their run against Barcelona and Atletico Madrid was amazing. Their performance against the big guns proves they're tough. They may surprise us in the following matches because to their resilience, despite the odds.

Long-term, Real Madrid's consistency is hard to overlook. The title battle hinges on the three points they keep scoring. Girona should focus on winning and sustaining form. Santiago Bernabeu will be tough for the match. I hope Girona shines, but Real's home advantage and record may be too much for them.

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The result did not surprise me. Athletic club is a team which is in the 5th position and doing very well constantly. Sevilla on the other hand, I don't know what happened to them. They can't seem to be doing anything at all. They are right around the relegation zone with 16 points. Who knows they might even get relegated this season. Who would say that they were the team who were in the top 4 just 2 seasons back? Last season they performed poorly as well and this season it is even worse.

But credits should be given where it is due. Athletic Club are now in the 4th position because Atletico Madrid lost that match against Girona. Athletic Club may even catch Barcelona if they can keep up since Barcelona is struggling.
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I feel sorry for Sevilla, they used to be a very original and interesting club, which when it was coached by Emery won the europa league and always played at a good level. Perhaps there was a change of management or they did not guess with the coach, because the results of Sevilla are terrible.

Yes, I 100% agree with you. I remember when they used to be called the European League team because they used to win the Europa League every season under Unai Emery. As far as I know, due to the financial debts, they had to let many key players go this season and they could not sign good players. That is why they are suffering. Last season they suffered as well but this season it is worse.
As for Athletic Club, it looks to me that they are taking the place of Sevilla right now. Sevilla used to be the 4th team usually before their downfall. The Athletic Club’s management is very good as well.
Sevilla seem to have won the europa league last season, although problems could be seen even then. Nevertheless, winning the Europa League is already a success and that's why the slump that Sevilla have had now looks very unexpected.
Now in the UEFA ranking Sevilla is on the 14th place, which seems to be higher than in the La Liga table now).

Athletic Club's management really deserves high praise, because in modern soccer without big money it is difficult to win, but Athletic Club shows that even without big money it is possible to show a decent game and take high places in La Liga for a long time.

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January 07, 2024, 02:47:15 PM
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It was a good match for Real Madrid, where young players were tested. As a Turk, I was proud to see Arda Güler on the field in Real Madrid's starting lineup at the age of 18. It can be said that Arda made a good start. A free kick hit the post. He made good attempts with a through pass. Brahim's goal in the match was also very nice. From time to time, Arda can join the match as a substitute.
Arda Guler finally got the confidence to make his debut in a Madrid uniform since being recruited from Fenerbahce last summer. I see his rating is quite good even though he didn't appear in full until 90 minutes. I liked the way he played, Acelotti used him as a playmaker, and he didn't disappoint at all.

Los Blancos 3-1 victory over Arandina will be motivation for young players like Guler, I hope that in the future Ancelotti can give him playing minutes in La Liga. He can become a big star at Santiago Bernebeu, his skills and quality will continue to develop because he joins the right team. I think the incident with Ceballos is normal, both of them were fine afterwards.

After the match Ancelotti praised Guler quality in general, I think slowly Guler can gain the manager trust in the future. I hope Guler can avoid injury again, so he can develop even better in the future.

Arandina from the start they fought Madrid not to win but so they could play with their favorite team. If we know that when Arandina received the news that they would face Madrid, they were very happy and enthusiastic because for them Madrid is an elite club in Spain. So, back to discussing Arda Guller performance, in my opinion so far he has been quite good, able to play freely and even pose a threat to the opponent's goal with kicks from the dead point. I think he gets a lot of praise even though he doesn't score, but because of his effectiveness on the pitch and being able to help the attack, he has a rating of 7.6, being able to do 2 dribbles from 3 so Arda Guller is starting with positive results so far.

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January 07, 2024, 03:07:01 PM
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I really enjoyed the Arandina vs Real Madrid match in the Copa Del Rey competition last night and seeing Arda Guler make his first debut as a Real Madrid player was definitely a very happy thing for him. Fans can't wait to see the performance of the Turkish wonderkid after suffering an injury since the start of this season. What Arda Guler does is very mature on the field and his vision in playing football really shows how good his qualities are. Arda Guler repeatedly created opportunities from kicks to assists, but none of them resulted in any goals. In the second half he was withdrawn and I think that was enough for him to prepare for tougher matches like La Liga or the Champions League.

What was no less exciting was seeing Brahim Diaz's performance in this match because thanks to him Real Madrid was able to score 3 goals. Brahim Diaz was key in the penalty kick scored by Joselu, after which he scored the second goal for Real Madrid, and in the third goal he provided the assist for the third goal scored by Rodrygo. Well, I think lending Brahim Diaz to Milan in the last two seasons is very meaningful if his performance is like this and will definitely be very helpful for Real Madrid in all existing competitions.
Arda Guller was into Real Madrid substitutions squad when they beat Mallorca last week and i thought Guller will make his debut on that match but unfortunately Ancelotti has decided not to played him and finally yesterday against Aradina at Copa Del Rey he can make his debut that Ancelotti was playing him at Bellingham position and i think his performance was quite impressive Guller even has made several shot attempts and he almost scored from free kick and after his debut some people has starting to considers Guller as the next Mesut Ozil because his game of style was similar to Ozil but as attacking midfielder Guller have to hard struggling to gets one place at Real Madrid starting lineup because this team has several attacking midfielder which more experience just like Brahim Diaz and their phenomenal player Bellingham

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January 07, 2024, 03:14:44 PM
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Athletic Club's management really deserves high praise, because in modern soccer without big money it is difficult to win, but Athletic Club shows that even without big money it is possible to show a decent game and take high places in La Liga for a long time.
The match between Sevilla and Bilbao yesterday showed how many changes have occurred in Bilbao this season, previously we could only see Bilbao continuing to be outside the top 4, but this season we continue to get surprises from Spanish League clubs, after Girona which had a shock effect on the team the big teams that have always been favorites, of course now Bilbao are also starting to show their strength by threatening the teams above them, as you said, clubs that don't have strong finances like Bilbao and Girona but are able to show good performance and consistency, of course this is the result of management performance and if their management was bad of course we would never see these two teams at the top of the Spanish league standings like they are now.

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