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May 03, 2021, 09:19:08 AM |
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Is this issue haven't done yet? the KYC thing. I have a small amount there and I didn't fill up the KYC level one because I'm waiting for some results on it and how it will go. Just want to know. In KYC verification level 1, what are those features that you can able to do, what I mean by that I can able to withdraw a small amount? Also, the issue here is that Roobet is part of a minority that made KYC mandatory. The majority like Stake, Crypto-Games, Primedice, FJ etc don't require any form of KYC whatsoever(Unless your account is under suspicion).
I don't want to compare but looking at those reputable gambling site, I don't know why there's an urge with the KYC on Roobet, something might wrong with their regulation, maybe? They become the most reputable one and I think this is one of their requirement to becomes more legit and government-friendly.
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May 03, 2021, 09:24:29 AM |
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Is this issue haven't done yet? the KYC thing.
I have a small amount there and I didn't fill up the KYC level one because I'm waiting for some results on it and how it will go. Just want to know. In KYC verification level 1, what are those features that you can able to do, what I mean by that I can able to withdraw a small amount?
For seeing no complaints coming from many gamblers I don't really think that this KYC implemented here is an issue maybe Robeet is compyling something to make their casino compliance to the law, If you want to continue your playing career or whatever you call it here better do it since you maybe wasting your time waiting and I don't think they will ruined their reputation for just collecting their users personal data.
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May 03, 2021, 09:33:18 AM |
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For seeing no complaints coming from many gamblers I don't really think that this KYC implemented here is an issue maybe Robeet is compyling something to make their casino compliance to the law, If you want to continue your playing career or whatever you call it here better do it since you maybe wasting your time waiting and I don't think they will ruined their reputation for just collecting their users personal data.
I agree, if there isn't anything that serious to not comply to KYC besides the KYC itself then there isn't anything to worry and just comply, they want to comply with the laws too so we have to respect their decision not to mention that as a patron of their website, you should support that decision.
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May 03, 2021, 02:17:19 PM |
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Is this issue haven't done yet? the KYC thing. Its not an issue. Its a compliance I have a small amount there and I didn't fill up the KYC level one because I'm waiting for some results on it and how it will go. Just want to know. In KYC verification level 1, what are those features that you can able to do, what I mean by that I can able to withdraw a small amount? You will be able to play, deposit and withdraw with level 1 KYC. If you are not really a fan for KYC and you only have a small amount left on Roobet then simply fill the level 1 KYC with some fake identity then after you get through it, withdraw all your balance from your account and never comes back. Thats the least you can do for now in case if you want to withdraw it
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May 03, 2021, 04:22:22 PM |
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Is this issue haven't done yet? the KYC thing. Its not an issue. Its a compliance It is not, at least not in the full sense of the term. You cannot enforce one regulation while disregarding others, especially those regulating the individual's right to privacy and the protection of personal data. A quick glance at their Identity Confirmation form reveals a few critical details indicating that Roobet is not in compliance with EU GDPR regulations. Everyone who has worked in this area understands what I mean. Furthermore, the way they implemented the identity verification prevents us from even reading their Terms of Service or Privacy Policy, which is both amusing and unprofessional, as well as illegitimate. I had to access the website via a new browser in anonymous mode to open them. @Roobet, failure to comply with the GDPR carries heavy penalties. Just saying. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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May 03, 2021, 05:46:13 PM |
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For seeing no complaints coming from many gamblers I don't really think that this KYC implemented here is an issue maybe Robeet is compyling something to make their casino compliance to the law, If you want to continue your playing career or whatever you call it here better do it since you maybe wasting your time waiting and I don't think they will ruined their reputation for just collecting their users personal data.
I agree, if there isn't anything that serious to not comply to KYC besides the KYC itself then there isn't anything to worry and just comply, they want to comply with the laws too so we have to respect their decision not to mention that as a patron of their website, you should support that decision. Why? Why do we must support that decision, is it a must? I mean there are other websites where you do not have to fill out a KYC form and can still gamble with fun, why would we must pick this place? I personally can tell you that I am not really interested in giving my KYC and that is why it has been a talk here for this long. This place found some money, became rich, and they wanted to get KYC of everyone and become very legit because they wanted to use those millions of dollars they made from gamblers into their luxurious life and didn't care about how that would impact the future of this project because they already made insane amount of profit anyway. Long story short I am not gambling here anymore because it requires KYC, considering how many places in the world bans online gambling, I would advise anyone who lives in those kinds of nations to stay away from this place as well.
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May 03, 2021, 07:35:46 PM |
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Its not an issue. Its a compliance
It is not, at least not in the full sense of the term. You cannot enforce one regulation while disregarding others, especially those regulating the individual's right to privacy and the protection of personal data. Its a simple matter, if you dont want to comply with this then leave the site and find another place to play which doesnt require any KYC. I doubt that whatever you say or write will affect Roobet's decision to apply level 1 KYC for everyone unless you are one of their high roller then you might have a shot in convincing them to drop the KYC requirement
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May 03, 2021, 07:40:58 PM |
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For seeing no complaints coming from many gamblers I don't really think that this KYC implemented here is an issue maybe Robeet is compyling something to make their casino compliance to the law, If you want to continue your playing career or whatever you call it here better do it since you maybe wasting your time waiting and I don't think they will ruined their reputation for just collecting their users personal data.
I agree, if there isn't anything that serious to not comply to KYC besides the KYC itself then there isn't anything to worry and just comply, they want to comply with the laws too so we have to respect their decision not to mention that as a patron of their website, you should support that decision. We are on this forum because we want to become anonymous through the use of Bitcoin that's why most the players here don't want to provide KYC if you most of the discussion about KYC and gambling. I believe the user didn't read ToS before he deposit money that's why he is asking by any chance if KYC level 1 rules might change. People in some country like US values KYC a lot.
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May 03, 2021, 08:43:05 PM |
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Its not an issue. Its a compliance
It is not, at least not in the full sense of the term. You cannot enforce one regulation while disregarding others, especially those regulating the individual's right to privacy and the protection of personal data. Its a simple matter, if you dont want to comply with this then leave the site and find another place to play which doesnt require any KYC. I doubt that whatever you say or write will affect Roobet's decision to apply level 1 KYC for everyone unless you are one of their high roller then you might have a shot in convincing them to drop the KYC requirement Well, we can certainly hope that with enough community pressure, we can collectively influence at least some of their decisions. This is a public forum after all. What's more, since they are still promoted as a casino where we can play anonymously, I believe we have the right to discuss it in this thread.
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May 03, 2021, 09:15:15 PM |
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Its not an issue. Its a compliance
It is not, at least not in the full sense of the term. You cannot enforce one regulation while disregarding others, especially those regulating the individual's right to privacy and the protection of personal data. Its a simple matter, if you dont want to comply with this then leave the site and find another place to play which doesnt require any KYC. I doubt that whatever you say or write will affect Roobet's decision to apply level 1 KYC for everyone unless you are one of their high roller then you might have a shot in convincing them to drop the KYC requirement That wont be changed anymore since they implement it right away without making announcement since they know, many gamblers will complain because they value their privacy. Its just that, many gamblers started to love playing on Roobet and suddenly, level 1 KYC was implemented so its normal for then to feel unsafe.
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May 03, 2021, 09:59:45 PM |
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Its a simple matter, if you dont want to comply with this then leave the site and find another place to play which doesnt require any KYC. I doubt that whatever you say or write will affect Roobet's decision to apply level 1 KYC for everyone unless you are one of their high roller then you might have a shot in convincing them to drop the KYC requirement Well, we can certainly hope that with enough community pressure, we can collectively influence at least some of their decisions. This is a public forum after all. Which community are you talking about? Let me give you a fun fact, the majority of the high roller in Roobet and most players that currently wager in Roobet dont really care about this KYC anymore. They fill in the level 1 KYC and still continue to wager, feel free to check in the Roobet's chatroom and see if you can find alot of people complaining about this I personally seen few people complain about this but as time goes, most dont really feel bothered by it. Fun fact : majority of Roobet's player dont come from this forum so as I have said. Feel free to comply or find another site instead of debating this pointless stuff all over again
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May 03, 2021, 10:16:42 PM |
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Its a simple matter, if you dont want to comply with this then leave the site and find another place to play which doesnt require any KYC. I doubt that whatever you say or write will affect Roobet's decision to apply level 1 KYC for everyone unless you are one of their high roller then you might have a shot in convincing them to drop the KYC requirement Well, we can certainly hope that with enough community pressure, we can collectively influence at least some of their decisions. This is a public forum after all. Which community are you talking about? Let me give you a fun fact, the majority of the high roller in Roobet and most players that currently wager in Roobet dont really care about this KYC anymore. They fill in the level 1 KYC and still continue to wager, feel free to check in the Roobet's chatroom and see if you can find alot of people complaining about this I personally seen few people complain about this but as time goes, most dont really feel bothered by it. Fun fact : majority of Roobet's player dont come from this forum so as I have said. Feel free to comply or find another site instead of debating this pointless stuff all over again I would say the same thing about on where those players came from which it isnt actually into this forum but cant tell precisely but same as you said where those big rollers wouldnt care much about KYC. They would just simply comply on whats been asked and then continue to play just like there's nothing happened.I dont know on why this one is a big deal, if they do find out that this is a big issue for them since they are starting to talk about KYC issues or anonymity then you can freely choose other websites and indeed there's no need to make up more discussions towards this.
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Fun fact : majority of Roobet's player dont come from this forum so as I have said. Feel free to comply or find another site instead of debating this pointless stuff all over again
Do you want to know other Fun fact about KYC on roobet? Most of people who complained on here didn't even betting on roobet. They were joined and created an account on roobet before, but when this KYC thing pop up, they just try to login and see whatever the KYC box pop up or not, then bring this stuff on this forum
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I understand the frustration with KYC but you have the option to fill-up or not, beside Roobet didn't force anyone here to gamble that's your choice either to continue or not, KYC is not just required on Roobet, there are so many centralized project that ask for KYC, everything has its own level of risk you just have to choose on what risk you'll take.
I care about my privacy but seriously, I don't think banks also protect our personal details same thing with your social media accounts those institutions are selling our personal details, that's more alarming compare to Roobet level 1 KYC.
I don't frustrate any at all. It is my opinion on KYC topic and as I discussed, exchanges or gambling sites are not safe ones for you to store all your capital. Gambling is not what you should spend all your capital for. Gambling responsibly and store your capital on gambling sites (exchanges too) with acceptance for losses (from bets, hacks, account close). Obviously if you are not cheater or not use dark money, your account won't be closed or frozen for non sense. If you don't want to do KYC, use small money to gamble. If you want to store big money, finish KYC first before you start your deposits.
We are on this forum because we want to become anonymous through the use of Bitcoin that's why most the players here don't want to provide KYC if you most of the discussion about KYC and gambling. I believe the user didn't read ToS before he deposit money that's why he is asking by any chance if KYC level 1 rules might change. People in some country like US values KYC a lot.
Most of guys only make noise but in fact they don't take care of their privacy. They asked for privacy protection but they share lots of images, screenshots that have their identities, trading or gambling records. Its a simple matter, if you dont want to comply with this then leave the site and find another place to play which doesnt require any KYC. I doubt that whatever you say or write will affect Roobet's decision to apply level 1 KYC for everyone unless you are one of their high roller then you might have a shot in convincing them to drop the KYC requirement
Failures with compliance is bad and with big capital, try to submit documents and finish your KYC first. It is the priority if you don't want to lose money as consequence of failed KYC attempts.
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May 04, 2021, 07:52:04 AM |
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I understand the frustration with KYC but you have the option to fill-up or not, beside Roobet didn't force anyone here to gamble that's your choice either to continue or not, KYC is not just required on Roobet, there are so many centralized project that ask for KYC, everything has its own level of risk you just have to choose on what risk you'll take.
I care about my privacy but seriously, I don't think banks also protect our personal details same thing with your social media accounts those institutions are selling our personal details, that's more alarming compare to Roobet level 1 KYC.
I don't frustrate any at all. It is my opinion on KYC topic and as I discussed, exchanges or gambling sites are not safe ones for you to store all your capital. Gambling is not what you should spend all your capital for. Gambling responsibly and store your capital on gambling sites (exchanges too) with acceptance for losses (from bets, hacks, account close). Obviously if you are not cheater or not use dark money, your account won't be closed or frozen for non sense. If you don't want to do KYC, use small money to gamble. If you want to store big money, finish KYC first before you start your deposits. I'm referring to the community who don't want to fill-up the KYC unexpectedly, and to end this topic about KYC you have to choose to continue to gamble with Roobet or not. I personally don't gamble that much with Roobet, but I participated on many contest hosted by Roobet and this is my main reason on filling-up the KYC. I have to agree that if you're a simple gambler, you have nothing to worry about freezing your account, just keep the fun while playing.
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Obito
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May 04, 2021, 08:04:55 AM |
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Yea, there are 3 KYC level on Roobet. For further information you can read it on here https://roobet.com/KYC lv 2, you need to provide your ID and KYC lv 3, you need to send your source of wealth. But you can withdraw your money if you completed and passed on KYC lv 1. The level 3 seems invasive of privacy to me, I mean in my country it is a not a good thing to ask a man his salary right so asking the source of income seems pretty wrong to me. Good thing that it is left for the third level. What is needed for level 1 if in llevel 2 the ID is needed.
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May 04, 2021, 08:08:20 AM |
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Fun fact : majority of Roobet's player dont come from this forum so as I have said. Feel free to comply or find another site instead of debating this pointless stuff all over again
Pointless stuff? Seriously? Hilarious. Everyone are free to express their opinions here which is why you clearly don't have the right to decide what is pointless and what is not. It is pretty evident that fans of Roobet like you and some others have no issues with the KYC requirements, but the truth is that there will always be people who have issues with these requirements due to the crypto anonymity factor.
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May 04, 2021, 02:43:33 PM |
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Fun fact : majority of Roobet's player dont come from this forum so as I have said. Feel free to comply or find another site instead of debating this pointless stuff all over again
Fun fact: the majority of members on bitcointalk are opposed to KYC, and if that isn't obvious to you, you might be on the wrong forum. Feel free to comply or do whatever the heck you want with your personal information, instead of lecturing other forum members what they should or shouldn't discuss here. It is pretty evident that fans of Roobet like you and some others have no issues with the KYC requirements, but the truth is that there will always be people who have issues with these requirements due to the crypto anonymity factor.
Goddamn right! This is a crypto space, and in my opinion, KYC contradicts crypto's principles.
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wiss19
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May 04, 2021, 09:31:19 PM |
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Well, we can certainly hope that with enough community pressure, we can collectively influence at least some of their decisions. This is a public forum after all.
Which community are you talking about? Let me give you a fun fact, the majority of the high roller in Roobet and most players that currently wager in Roobet dont really care about this KYC anymore. They fill in the level 1 KYC and still continue to wager, feel free to check in the Roobet's chatroom and see if you can find alot of people complaining about this I personally seen few people complain about this but as time goes, most dont really feel bothered by it. I agree with others, you do not get to decide what is pointless and what is not for other people. I personally left roobet the moment they forced KYC down our throats, I am sorry but you can't suddenly change ideas about how you run business without asking your customers, in that case they will leave. They can find other people from other places, maybe that would be a lot better for them but that doesn't change the fact that other people from other places may not like this neither. Even if everyone aside from me would love this idea, they all applied their KYC already, and they are in love with it that doesn't mean that I have to shut up about it. If I have a problem with this place, if I liked it here but then something changed, that means I will end up talking about what would be the best way to approach this in the end and complain what I believe is a valid feedback.
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carlfebz2
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May 04, 2021, 09:36:14 PM |
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Well, we can certainly hope that with enough community pressure, we can collectively influence at least some of their decisions. This is a public forum after all.
Which community are you talking about? Let me give you a fun fact, the majority of the high roller in Roobet and most players that currently wager in Roobet dont really care about this KYC anymore. They fill in the level 1 KYC and still continue to wager, feel free to check in the Roobet's chatroom and see if you can find alot of people complaining about this I personally seen few people complain about this but as time goes, most dont really feel bothered by it. I agree with others, you do not get to decide what is pointless and what is not for other people. I personally left roobet the moment they forced KYC down our throats, I am sorry but you can't suddenly change ideas about how you run business without asking your customers, in that case they will leave. They can find other people from other places, maybe that would be a lot better for them but that doesn't change the fact that other people from other places may not like this neither. Even if everyone aside from me would love this idea, they all applied their KYC already, and they are in love with it that doesn't mean that I have to shut up about it. If I have a problem with this place, if I liked it here but then something changed, that means I will end up talking about what would be the best way to approach this in the end and complain what I believe is a valid feedback. Everyone could really have their own feedback and opinion on such change but its true that not all players on Roobet are basically came from into this forum but rather in the outside of this place. Somehow there are still handful numbers which do came into this forum which do play out on the site and majority of them do really mind off about privacy and once this had been changed and currently been asking out some KYC then that would really be a big issue for their part even not to others but its up to personal choice.
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