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@arwin100, every crypto enthusiast that doesn't expect a form of KYC to be implemented in the area like a casino, exchange site, etc when crypto gets the attention of institutional investors or be the mainstream of payment is never a crypto enthusiast.
This is what crypto gamblers expect at first but since the adoption has wide spread and regulation towards financial platforms has been monitored then some other casinos has been pushed to implement this on their platform that's why we cannot say now that we will be anonymous while using crypto on gambling since for sure in future majority of casino will come into this option to comply with the law. That's why as stated for conscious on their identity better pick those trusted platform to minimize the risk while continuously play on their casino. Bitcoin itself is never anonymous right from the beginning. Yes, some crypto gamblers expect some change but not every gambler because I can see that some people are not happy with the change and I don't know maybe they are not ready to accept the change or something. Nevertheless, the future law of casinos will be determined by their Master's license holder and country of operation. We are gradually already seeing this on which this doesn't only limit out on gambling platforms but on other services or platforms too which sooner or later if they aren't still that regulated or licensed it would really be coming into a point on which all of them would really be facing those kind of regulation before they could really make out some operation. As a result then us users would sooner or later would be experiencing that fiat-like kind of casino dealing.
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February 17, 2022, 04:08:11 AM |
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Bitcoin itself is never anonymous right from the beginning. Yes, some crypto gamblers expect some change but not every gambler because I can see that some people are not happy with the change and I don't know maybe they are not ready to accept the change or something. Nevertheless, the future law of casinos will be determined by their Master's license holder and country of operation.
I disagree, you can use Bitcoin fully anonymous if you understand privacy concern and have a lot effort to do that. This is why if you find "KYC is mandatory" on casino rules, even though you've play long time and they never ask you to submit KYC... you need to expect the casino would ask it in anytime and what you will do if you faced that. I guess you don't have any choice between submit KYC or move to other casino, if you're complain about that's matter it means you're ignored their TOS.
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February 17, 2022, 07:58:30 AM |
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Bitcoin itself is never anonymous right from the beginning. Yes, some crypto gamblers expect some change but not every gambler because I can see that some people are not happy with the change and I don't know maybe they are not ready to accept the change or something. Nevertheless, the future law of casinos will be determined by their Master's license holder and country of operation.
I consider bitcoin is anonymous. KYC maybe be a normal thing in the days to come and maybe more casinos will implement KYC for their members. But over time, I'm still convinced that some casinos are still trying to protect their members from verifying their accounts with KYC. Casinos know that crypto allows users to use crypto without government intervention so that the casino won't be too strict with the rules. Maybe the casino will limit the withdrawal of funds from its members, especially those who want to make large withdrawals so they need to do KFC. It all depends on the members using crypto and they need to remember that KYC will be in the casino.
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I consider bitcoin is anonymous. KYC maybe be a normal thing in the days to come and maybe more casinos will implement KYC for their members.
I doubt it is anonymous where there's a public lists of transactions and can track it from the very start. I agree with the KYC particularly that most of the gambling sites are regulated and it should be done at some point, if the users don't want to verify their identity through KYC they can either move to other gambling site or play to gambling site that doesn't ask KYC but I'm sure that it is not regulated and operating illegally which is way more riskier than playing on a regulated gambling sites that ask KYC.
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February 17, 2022, 10:28:23 AM |
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I consider bitcoin is anonymous. KYC maybe be a normal thing in the days to come and maybe more casinos will implement KYC for their members.
I doubt it is anonymous where there's a public lists of transactions and can track it from the very start. I agree with the KYC particularly that most of the gambling sites are regulated and it should be done at some point, if the users don't want to verify their identity through KYC they can either move to other gambling site or play to gambling site that doesn't ask KYC but I'm sure that it is not regulated and operating illegally which is way more riskier than playing on a regulated gambling sites that ask KYC. If the big casino require this and they move to smaller one well they are taking the risk for getting scam by small ones since some of scam casino offer no KYC plus huge deposit bonus and feel pity for those guys who fall on this schemes. That's why choose what's the best casino and think positively on what they require especially doing Kyc since they adding layer of protection to its users for some regulations happened to them.
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February 17, 2022, 10:30:54 AM |
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I consider bitcoin is anonymous. KYC maybe be a normal thing in the days to come and maybe more casinos will implement KYC for their members.
I doubt it is anonymous where there's a public lists of transactions and can track it from the very start. I agree with the KYC particularly that most of the gambling sites are regulated and it should be done at some point, if the users don't want to verify their identity through KYC they can either move to other gambling site or play to gambling site that doesn't ask KYC but I'm sure that it is not regulated and operating illegally which is way more riskier than playing on a regulated gambling sites that ask KYC. I don't understand how people can call it anonymous? For sure it's not ad it's pseudo-anonymous as whole records are saved on blockchain and you can trace transactions to some extent which is why people use mixing services.Coins like Monero are completely anonymous so don't need to mix this thing and clarification needs to happen in our mind to have idea how bitcoin works.
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February 17, 2022, 10:31:36 AM |
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Bitcoin itself is never anonymous right from the beginning. Yes, some crypto gamblers expect some change but not every gambler because I can see that some people are not happy with the change and I don't know maybe they are not ready to accept the change or something. Nevertheless, the future law of casinos will be determined by their Master's license holder and country of operation.
Absolute nonsense. You clearly need to do more research. BTC may not be 100% anonymous, but that doesn't imply that KYC is mandatory everywhere. On the contrary, there are many, many sites out there that detest KYC and enforce it only if absolutely necessary. This has always been the case so far and I am confident that it will stay this way in the future too which is why I disagree with your assumptions.
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February 17, 2022, 10:47:03 AM |
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Yes, so it's better for you to try to play on other gambling sites than just keep trying at Roobet because it may not work out well for you. Maybe someday, you will be able to visit that site because maybe the situation will change too. Keep the spirit in looking for sites that you can play and don't give you problems later. And keep in mind to always manage your money in gambling. The problem is that, what if this happened when you have some money in it? That is why finding a solution is utmost importance to some people. I personally believe that looking for other websites is the way to go if you do not have any bankroll at the moment, but if you have some then you will get worried about it and try to find a way to get in. I am not talking about just him, I am talking in general when these type of things happen and you can't open up a website that you have money in. I had it in another casino and I had it once on poloniex as well, both of which scared the hell out of me for a while but then I just tested it on another website and got it out.
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February 17, 2022, 11:28:06 AM |
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I consider bitcoin is anonymous. KYC maybe be a normal thing in the days to come and maybe more casinos will implement KYC for their members.
I doubt it is anonymous where there's a public lists of transactions and can track it from the very start. I agree with the KYC particularly that most of the gambling sites are regulated and it should be done at some point, if the users don't want to verify their identity through KYC they can either move to other gambling site or play to gambling site that doesn't ask KYC but I'm sure that it is not regulated and operating illegally which is way more riskier than playing on a regulated gambling sites that ask KYC. If the big casino require this and they move to smaller one well they are taking the risk for getting scam by small ones since some of scam casino offer no KYC plus huge deposit bonus and feel pity for those guys who fall on this schemes. That's why choose what's the best casino and think positively on what they require especially doing Kyc since they adding layer of protection to its users for some regulations happened to them. Ahh, again the same KYC stuff. I dont understand what is wrong in doing that? Well, when we go and make KYC verifications with lets say Experion Scoring company or any life insurance agent, do we ask they so many questions regarding whether they gonna keep the privacy of our documents or not? They are the one literally getting physical copies of our KYC's and could actually sell to third part. Self attested copies etc is even more riskier to trade in the real world. If reputed Casino's are being questioned for the privacy of KYC's then dam, its gonna be difficulty in the future. I mean Roobet is definitely making more money than anyone of us could imagine. Why the heck they would go and risk the business for KYC in-secure non sense.
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February 17, 2022, 03:08:32 PM |
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Bitcoin itself is never anonymous right from the beginning. Yes, some crypto gamblers expect some change but not every gambler because I can see that some people are not happy with the change and I don't know maybe they are not ready to accept the change or something. Nevertheless, the future law of casinos will be determined by their Master's license holder and country of operation.
I disagree, you can use Bitcoin fully anonymous if you understand privacy concern and have a lot effort to do that. This is why if you find "KYC is mandatory" on casino rules, even though you've play long time and they never ask you to submit KYC... you need to expect the casino would ask it in anytime and what you will do if you faced that. I guess you don't have any choice between submit KYC or move to other casino, if you're complain about that's matter it means you're ignored their TOS. yes, this is a fact each house has their rules and for some you'll have to agree if you want to play there though it's already proven that KYC usually hurts more than helps and is not the most effective way to avoid crime.
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February 17, 2022, 08:04:28 PM |
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- Don't want to share data. - Some people don't have supported data for KYC. Some casinos not only required ID/Passport but also some other documents like Proof of resistance, the only problem people like me who living in parents home we don't have that + the unemployed make us really hard to. If people worried about "KYC" just limited your deposit and withdraw, most casino like Roobet, Stake, Roolbit, Duelbit you can withdraw 1,000$-5,000$ without need KYC. I tested by myself, unless you are broke T&C like multi-account. All of these KYC stuff, most the time applied for people who really withdraw a big money while casino have some trigger hold withdraw for people who withdraw big.
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February 17, 2022, 09:34:44 PM |
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Bitcoin itself is never anonymous right from the beginning. Yes, some crypto gamblers expect some change but not every gambler because I can see that some people are not happy with the change and I don't know maybe they are not ready to accept the change or something. Nevertheless, the future law of casinos will be determined by their Master's license holder and country of operation.
I disagree, you can use Bitcoin fully anonymous if you understand privacy concern and have a lot effort to do that. This is why if you find "KYC is mandatory" on casino rules, even though you've play long time and they never ask you to submit KYC... you need to expect the casino would ask it in anytime and what you will do if you faced that. I guess you don't have any choice between submit KYC or move to other casino, if you're complain about that's matter it means you're ignored their TOS. You seem to misunderstand what I said, I was saying Bitcoin transaction is pseudonymous, not anonymous and if privacy is prior a little effort is needed to achieve that. Having said that, the KYC issue that raise this conversation was actually basic information with no ID submission. Bitcoin itself is never anonymous right from the beginning. Yes, some crypto gamblers expect some change but not every gambler because I can see that some people are not happy with the change and I don't know maybe they are not ready to accept the change or something. Nevertheless, the future law of casinos will be determined by their Master's license holder and country of operation.
I consider bitcoin is anonymous. Go and do the homework very well. Bitcoin is never anonymous. KYC maybe be a normal thing in the days to come and maybe more casinos will implement KYC for their members. But over time, I'm still convinced that some casinos are still trying to protect their members from verifying their accounts with KYC. Casinos know that crypto allows users to use crypto without government intervention so that the casino won't be too strict with the rules. Maybe the casino will limit the withdrawal of funds from its members, especially those who want to make large withdrawals so they need to do KFC. It all depends on the members using crypto and they need to remember that KYC will be in the casino.
No casino whatsoever will protect their user or operate outside the rules and regulations given to them by their Master license holder and the country of their operation. Bitcoin itself is never anonymous right from the beginning. Yes, some crypto gamblers expect some change but not every gambler because I can see that some people are not happy with the change and I don't know maybe they are not ready to accept the change or something. Nevertheless, the future law of casinos will be determined by their Master's license holder and country of operation.
Absolute nonsense. You clearly need to do more research. BTC may not be 100% anonymous, but that doesn't imply that KYC is mandatory everywhere. On the contrary, there are many, many sites out there that detest KYC and enforce it only if absolutely necessary. This has always been the case so far and I am confident that it will stay this way in the future too which is why I disagree with your assumptions. Do you even read where the conversation starts? If you don't then you don't need to say disrespectful language because I never said Btc transaction nature was the reason for KYC and I will advise you to check the rules and regulations provided by casino that detest KYC.
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If reputed Casino's are being questioned for the privacy of KYC's then dam, its gonna be difficulty in the future. I mean Roobet is definitely making more money than anyone of us could imagine. Why the heck they would go and risk the business for KYC in-secure non sense.
Exactly. Besides, on Roobet, users who make small deposits/withdrawals (whom I believe are the majority) are requested to only complete the step one verification by providing some basic information such as the name, country, phone number without having to upload any document. I am sure most of those complaining about kyc are publicly sharing more personal information than that on social media platforms.
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February 17, 2022, 10:20:37 PM |
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If reputed Casino's are being questioned for the privacy of KYC's then dam, its gonna be difficulty in the future. I mean Roobet is definitely making more money than anyone of us could imagine. Why the heck they would go and risk the business for KYC in-secure non sense.
Exactly. Besides, on Roobet, users who make small deposits/withdrawals (whom I believe are the majority) are requested to only complete the step one verification by providing some basic information such as the name, country, phone number without having to upload any document. I am sure most of those complaining about kyc are publicly sharing more personal information than that on social media platforms. ^ Definitely right, I don't understand why they have hated so much KYC compliance since most of us have a social media account where we continue uploading photos and videos publicly and besides, when we look at Roobet KYC verification for level one it only asks name, address where you live and your email address and that is fine, you can gamble with a small amount that you want. I don't see any complicated thing that everyone should be worried about. However, as of now, when we talk about the fastest-growing casinos, one of the most common factors that has is the KYC thing.
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February 17, 2022, 11:01:29 PM |
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If reputed Casino's are being questioned for the privacy of KYC's then dam, its gonna be difficulty in the future. I mean Roobet is definitely making more money than anyone of us could imagine. Why the heck they would go and risk the business for KYC in-secure non sense.
Exactly. Besides, on Roobet, users who make small deposits/withdrawals (whom I believe are the majority) are requested to only complete the step one verification by providing some basic information such as the name, country, phone number without having to upload any document. I am sure most of those complaining about kyc are publicly sharing more personal information than that on social media platforms. ^ Definitely right, I don't understand why they have hated so much KYC compliance since most of us have a social media account where we continue uploading photos and videos publicly and besides, when we look at Roobet KYC verification for level one it only asks name, address where you live and your email address and that is fine, you can gamble with a small amount that you want. I don't see any complicated thing that everyone should be worried about. However, as of now, when we talk about the fastest-growing casinos, one of the most common factors that has is the KYC thing. Its either they have illegal activities done on internet or they are well known person and doesn't want their information to leak over the net space that they are gamblers since they are protecting their images. But for other stuff related on risk holding it I this is minimal only and tolerable knowing the casino has done this thing for completing the requirements what government ask them to do.
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February 18, 2022, 02:49:12 AM |
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Roobet, why do you offer all kinds of NCAA basketball games in livebetting but not a single NBA game live?
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February 18, 2022, 04:36:19 AM |
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Even though there is a list of public transactions that they can openly view, I don't think it would be easy to track them down. KYC tries to find out the background of the gambler so that it is hoped that the gambler will not use money from something related to illegal things. That's why we should pay more attention to this and look for gambling sites that don't ask for KYC. snip
Most of us don't read the rules listed on gambling sites and just register right away but after we win some money and want to withdraw, we just realize that something might prevent us from doing it. We will not be able to do anything because it is our fault and we must accept it as a lesson for us. Maybe we can try to withdraw the money and if we really can't do it, we can contact the support system to provide a solution. snip
Thanks, I will do that ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) If you think bitcoin is never anonymous, that is fine. But I still consider bitcoin is anonymous ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) snip
If the casino does not protect its users, it will not allow its users to withdraw their money before they do KYC, even if that money is the minimum they can withdraw. But in fact, casinos allow small gamblers to withdraw their money and put a limit on when they need to KYC.
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Exactly. Besides, on Roobet, users who make small deposits/withdrawals (whom I believe are the majority) are requested to only complete the step one verification by providing some basic information such as the name, country, phone number without having to upload any document. I am sure most of those complaining about kyc are publicly sharing more personal information than that on social media platforms.
^ Definitely right, I don't understand why they have hated so much KYC compliance since most of us have a social media account where we continue uploading photos and videos publicly and besides, when we look at Roobet KYC verification for level one it only asks name, address where you live and your email address and that is fine, you can gamble with a small amount that you want. I don't see any complicated thing that everyone should be worried about. However, as of now, when we talk about the fastest-growing casinos, one of the most common factors that has is the KYC thing. Uploading foto and your family on Social media is not recommended because it will be easy to snapshot by criminals. And in fact, this happens often to those who don't like KYC. we know when registering to Social Media must have required phone numbers and all don't have a problem. Even though they have won a lot and played here for years, I don't know why when Roobet just asks for a phone number, they don't provide it?
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Roobet, why do you offer all kinds of NCAA basketball games in livebetting but not a single NBA game live?
NBA bet market has many fans so sportbetting always include this event in their betting market both prematch and livebetting, so strange enough if there is no livebet for the NBA in roobet, not betting on roobet but I was able to find that some time ago.
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February 18, 2022, 08:39:39 AM |
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If reputed Casino's are being questioned for the privacy of KYC's then dam, its gonna be difficulty in the future. I mean Roobet is definitely making more money than anyone of us could imagine. Why the heck they would go and risk the business for KYC in-secure non sense.
Exactly. Besides, on Roobet, users who make small deposits/withdrawals (whom I believe are the majority) are requested to only complete the step one verification by providing some basic information such as the name, country, phone number without having to upload any document. I am sure most of those complaining about kyc are publicly sharing more personal information than that on social media platforms. In providing basic player information, name and country of residence is not a threat, but a phone number is already superfluous. I wouldn't use that platform that requires a phone number. Why do they need it? They can get by with email. Posting personal information in social networks is a personal matter for everyone and no one is forcing you to do this. The matter is quite different. I don't like it when sites like Roobet ask me to do things I don't want to do. It's easier for me to go to another casino than to follow their lead.
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