[ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs

[Unacceptable]

Uh,you screwed up those quotes..............That isn't a quote of mine 

You do understand that with the high build quality of the sp 10x, 3x and 2x there was no way they could compete with the Chinese.

I suppose you think they should have made crappy open air miners like Bitmain with load ugly fans rather than the static pressure cooling builds they uses with the high

quality aluminium cases ?

Not sure what you could have done differently or better...

I dont agree with that statement as I would buy quality over quantity all day long. Given the choice I would pay, and have paid extra for Spondoolies kit over other rubbish.


Such a same to see Spondoolies pack up shop, they really did know how to make quality equipment that shits over bitmain's stuff

Anyway I will you guys all the best, and thank you for all your support!

Regards
A

[RoadStress]

RoadStress wasn't just ScamDoolies attack dog.  He also acted as a liability buffer for the group buy of machines that failed to perform as marketing specs advertised.

If Cypherdoc's Bitcoin can be claimed in bankruptcy court as an improper asset transfer, then RoadStress' shill renumeration (especially if paid in BTC) may also be up for clawback by creditors.

I suggest you find out who he is and how much he was paid to help promote/defend this exit scam.

Please don't compare me to the cypherdoc scammer! He endorsed HashFash with no chip developing technical skills and with no tech start-up business skills!

[sidehack]

I never liked their design strategy with RockerBox gear. The added complexity headaches of a four-phase 200A buck and cooling a hundred watts from one square inch of chip surface, coupled with an FPGA-implemented comm protocol, really gave their stuff a lot of added cost and reliability concerns. Asking to draw 3KW from a 2U rack unit was crazy, made for some seriously annoying fans and the gear only runs rated speed with arctic intake temperatures. That said, utilizing reliable and efficient server PSUs from the get-go was a solid design choice; they were one of the only makers to allow core voltage adjustment inherent to the design; and they are only one that didn't deliberately hire sadists for customer service reps. I don't know that they ever self-mined and sold used gear from their own farm as new hardware, which is becoming common.
If I were in charge of a business like Spondoolies I'd change a few things about engineering concepts, but not one thing about how they handled communication, tech support and customer service. Those guys were alright.

[el_rlee]

What a pity.

[iCEBREAKER]

RoadStress wasn't just ScamDoolies attack dog.  He also acted as a liability buffer for the group buy of machines that failed to perform as marketing specs advertised.

If Cypherdoc's Bitcoin can be claimed in bankruptcy court as an improper asset transfer, then RoadStress' shill renumeration (especially if paid in BTC) may also be up for clawback by creditors.

I suggest you find out who he is and how much he was paid to help promote/defend this exit scam.

Please don't compare me to the cypherdoc scammer! He endorsed HashFash with no chip developing technical skills and with no tech start-up business skills!

RoadStress, you endorsed Spondoolies with "no chip developing technical skills and with no tech start-up business skills."

[RoadStress]

RoadStress, you endorsed Spondoolies with "no chip developing technical skills and with no tech start-up business skills."

You really missed me right?

Please show me my endorsement thread which is equivalent with cypherdoc's endorsement thread (which can be found at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=270363.0) otherwise you are talking out of your ass and not backing up your statements as you always like to do.

[truckinusa]

Why isn't there a company that makes a single chip or single board miner that costs less than $100, performs better than 1TH and has no fans or noise?  Its unfortunate they didn't stick around, but I would have bought another spondoolies product if there had have been something that made sense for the enthusiast/regular consumer.  I'm not sure why another company doesn't go after this market?  A $100 price point would attract a lot more hobby miners.  A lottery type device that is directed at a pool for that purpose would be very attractive to the non technical type.  I contemplated doing the same thing with a bitmain u3, but it appears like it is completely unreliable. 

[sidehack]

Making a competitive chip is a multi-million-dollar undertaking right now, so buying a chip from an existing manufacturer is a better way to start. Except that the existing manufacturers aren't selling, or claim they'll be selling but are sorely dragging their feet.

[Fatman3001]

I like your signatures.

Saved for posterity:

From RoadStress:

"iCEBREAKER is a troll! He and cypherdoc helped HashFast scam 50 Million $ from its customers !
H/w Hosting Directory & Reputation - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=622998.0"

From iCEBREAKER:

"Spondoolies...'merged' and took the money and ran....
For Roadstress The Cheerleader Shill, this bankruptcy is "a fun ride."  For BTCS investors and shareholders, it is devastating.
ROADSTRESS is a troll.  He helped Spondoolies scam 100 MILLION $ from BTCS and group buyers."

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Makes me think SP-Tech and Hashfast may have been a bit amateurish in their choice of business partners.

SP-Tech did hire Dogie though. Too bad they didn't pay him.

But I guess it was cheaper to pay RoadStress to attack him (I can't remember Cypher attacking people for money. Oh well, he did work for the same people as iCEBREAKER, that should carry some punishment I guess.).

What a tangled web we weave.

[dogie]

SP-Tech did hire Dogie though. Too bad they didn't pay him.

But I guess it was cheaper to pay RoadStress to attack him (I can't remember Cypher attacking people for money. Oh well, he did work for the same people as iCEBREAKER, that should carry some punishment I guess.).

What a tangled web we weave.

I am unsure if it would be best to describe my position with Spondoolies as "hired", otherwise I would have "worked" with most of the hardware industry by now.

• Spondoolies provided an SP10, SP30, SP20 and SP35 for evaluation.
• Spondoolies had me sign an NDA in order to discuss very specific business matters.
• While I often provided "consulting" - especially around releases - I was never remunerated for these services.
• Spondoolies also provided access to their affiliate scheme.

That was the limit of our relationship. It just so happens that they decided not to pay me under their own affiliate scheme agreement, hence our relationship will continue for quite some time via lawyers.

But I guess it was cheaper to pay RoadStress to attack him (I can't remember Cypher attacking people for money. Oh well, he did work for the same people as iCEBREAKER, that should carry some punishment I guess.).

My opinion: Directly or indirectly, willingly or unwillingly, knowingly or unknowingly, RoadStress was utilised to discredit or shout over anyone who disagreed with Spondoolies. He was paid for his affiliate sales and so is happy but shouted down others who weren't. I really don't see much difference between RoadStress and ICEBREAKER Cypherdoc other than RoadStress is promoting a product that didn't immediately damage consumers, assuming the SP3X compensation they gave was sufficient. There are victims in both scenarios unfortunately.

Edit: I meant Cypherdoc.

[Fatman3001]

SP-Tech did hire Dogie though. Too bad they didn't pay him.

But I guess it was cheaper to pay RoadStress to attack him (I can't remember Cypher attacking people for money. Oh well, he did work for the same people as iCEBREAKER, that should carry some punishment I guess.).

What a tangled web we weave.

I am unsure if it would be best to describe my position with Spondoolies as "hired", otherwise I would have "worked" with most of the hardware industry by now.

• Spondoolies provided an SP10, SP30, SP20 and SP35 for evaluation.
• Spondoolies had me sign an NDA in order to discuss very specific business matters.
• While I often provided "consulting" - especially around releases - I was never remunerated for these services.
• Spondoolies also provided access to their affiliate scheme.

That was the limit of our relationship. It just so happens that they decided not to pay me under their own affiliate scheme agreement, hence our relationship will continue for quite some time via lawyers.

But I guess it was cheaper to pay RoadStress to attack him (I can't remember Cypher attacking people for money. Oh well, he did work for the same people as iCEBREAKER, that should carry some punishment I guess.).

My opinion: Directly or indirectly, willingly or unwillingly, knowingly or unknowingly, RoadStress was utilised to discredit or shout over anyone who disagreed with Spondoolies. He was paid for his affiliate sales and so is happy but shouted down others who weren't. I really don't see much difference between RoadStress and ICEBREAKER other than RoadStress is promoting a product that didn't immediately damage consumers, assuming the SP3X compensation they gave was sufficient. There are victims in both scenarios unfortunately.

Thx for giving us your take on this. These things tend to get dug up again in Bitcoin-land so it doesn't hurt to have some pointers when people are going to necro this in the future.

[iCEBREAKER]

RoadStress is promoting a product that didn't immediately damage consumers, assuming the SP3X compensation they gave was sufficient. There are victims in both scenarios unfortunately.

That's a big, controversial assumption.

The SP3X compensation may have accounted for the lower hashrate, but Spondoolies also missed by a wide margin their GH/W power spec.

Regardless, I can't agree with your choice to use the word "victims."

Bitcoin is very risky (it could suddenly break or become obsolete).

Mining with ASICs is an order of magnitude riskier than just hodling BTC (because price/difficulty).

Pre-ordering ASICs is the riskiest of all (because of all the above plus counterpary/firm risk).  It's not for widows, orphans, or the faint of heart.

If you lose a game at a casino or a wager with a bookie, you are not a "victim" and the casino/bookie is not a fucking "scammer."

Spare us the ex post facto infantilization of compulsive gamblers (who either possess extremely high risk tolerance or have no business pre-ordering ASICs).

[dogie]

The SP3X compensation may have accounted for the lower hashrate, but Spondoolies also missed by a wide margin their GH/W power spec.

I didn't state either way whether the compensation was fair or not, and instead took it as an assumption as its a separate topic.

[Fatman3001]

RoadStress is promoting a product that didn't immediately damage consumers, assuming the SP3X compensation they gave was sufficient. There are victims in both scenarios unfortunately.

That's a big, controversial assumption.

The SP3X compensation may have accounted for the lower hashrate, but Spondoolies also missed by a wide margin their GH/W power spec.

Regardless, I can't agree with your choice to use the word "victims."

Bitcoin is very risky (it could suddenly break or become obsolete).

Mining with ASICs is an order of magnitude riskier than just hodling BTC (because price/difficulty).

Pre-ordering ASICs is the riskiest of all (because of all the above plus counterpary/firm risk).  It's not for widows, orphans, or the faint of heart.

If you lose a game at a casino or a wager with a bookie, you are not a "victim" and the casino/bookie is not a fucking "scammer."

Spare us the ex post facto infantilization of compulsive gamblers (who either possess extremely high risk tolerance or have no business pre-ordering ASICs).

Fascinating!

You're actually trying to rationalize it! Maybe there is a beaten down soul in that black heart of yours after all.

Pre-ordering ASICs is thought of as risky because lying so-and-so's like yourself made it risky.

To use that as some kind of a defense now is .... imaginative.

Have you used that line with your buddy Gmaxwell? Wasn't he scammed by Didn't he gamble with Hashfast?

[iCEBREAKER]

Pre-ordering ASICs is thought of as risky because lying so-and-so's like yourself made it risky.

How rude!   

Pre-ordering ASICs is risky for a large number of reasons.

In Spondoolies' case they blamed TSCM for the chips failing to meet speed and efficiency specs, in a perfect example of cascading counterparty risk.

[Fatman3001]

Pre-ordering ASICs is thought of as risky because lying so-and-so's like yourself made it risky.

How rude!  

Pre-ordering ASICs is risky for a large number of reasons.

In Spondoolies' case they blamed TSCM for the chips failing to meet speed and efficiency specs, in a perfect example of cascading counterparty risk.

TBH I haven't bothered to check where you fit in all of this. I'm just guessing it's bad.

Yes, there is risk connected to the likelihood of things working out as planned with pre-orders. But what we saw with BFL, Hashfast, Cointerra, Avalon and eventually even KnC was that they made promises they knew they couldn't keep. That's an extra spice that changed the game quite a bit. Hence the strong words hurled in their direction by their customers/victims.

[smooth]

"You can't cheat an honest person"

People got "ripped off" on ASICs because they thought someone was going to sell them a magic money machine for less than the amount of money said machine would magically create. #fail

[notlist3d]

Did not think about it but with message coming out Sunday about stopping operations wonder if anyone made money going against BTCS stock Monday at opening- http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=BTCS+Interactive#{%22range%22:%225d%22,%22allowChartStacking%22:true}

And this thread sure is interesting to watch to say the least.

[sidehack]

"You can't cheat an honest person"

People got "ripped off" on ASICs because they thought someone was going to sell them a magic money machine for less than the amount of money said machine would magically create. #fail

Some people did, yeah. The rest, however, got "ripped off" on ASICs because they thought the people selling would actually deliver something near promised spec sometime near promised deadline. Or, you know, at all.

[Fatman3001]

"You can't cheat an honest person"

People got "ripped off" on ASICs because they thought someone was going to sell them a magic money machine for less than the amount of money said machine would magically create. #fail

Yah! I was so stupid for buying those knc machines back in 2013. #fail