[ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source

[fsonex]

Version 6 hasn't crashed once here and I left this baby running while CPU mining all night!!!

Same here, my node has been running for 2 days without a single issue.

I do agree that the client shutdown seems to have a glitch that really needs to get resolved soon, but if you leave it open for now, all should be well.

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[LivingDeath]

sorry for my noob question, but when i open up the client there is a dos window, what am i doing wrong?   

[PilotofBTC]

sorry for my noob question, but when i open up the client there is a dos window, what am i doing wrong?   

Nothing. That is the java console. Usually it is hidden, but I expect they have not hidden it until they get the bugs worked out of the wallet.

[dzarmush]

Qora Facebook — https://www.facebook.com/qoracoin

[Secondleo]

I am sure that soon qora will appear on bter.com

Thanks for your comment, but we need people to build and promote this coin. So get to work, we are going to make it happen together.

When someone asks "what are the benefits of Qora over NXT" what do you reply?

To be Honest, I don't know. Tell me, because I want to actively help and build Qora. Thank you.

Security. Qora uses a secure seed to regenerate a Wallet + a private key to make sure the wallet is save for everyday use.
Besides that, not much at the moment. Theoretically Qora has varying block speeds to match the current amount transactions being processed. As there are not that much transactions in the net, this feature is dorment at the moment. I think it will lead to Qora being more efficient than NXT in the end. Can't tell for sure at the moment though.

[PilotofBTC]

I am sure that soon qora will appear on bter.com

Thanks for your comment, but we need people to build and promote this coin. So get to work, we are going to make it happen together.

When someone asks "what are the benefits of Qora over NXT" what do you reply?

To be Honest, I don't know. Tell me, because I want to actively help and build Qora. Thank you.

Security. Qora uses a secure seed to regenerate a Wallet + a private key to make sure the wallet is save for everyday use.
Besides that, not much at the moment. Theoretically Qora has varying block speeds to match the current amount transactions being processed. As there are not that much transactions in the net, this feature is dorment at the moment. I think it will lead to Qora being more efficient than NXT in the end. Can't tell for sure at the moment though.

Doesn't Qora also have a smaller transaction fee than NXT?

[CoinBounties]

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[dzarmush]

I am sure that soon qora will appear on bter.com

Thanks for your comment, but we need people to build and promote this coin. So get to work, we are going to make it happen together.

When someone asks "what are the benefits of Qora over NXT" what do you reply?

To be Honest, I don't know. Tell me, because I want to actively help and build Qora. Thank you.

Security. Qora uses a secure seed to regenerate a Wallet + a private key to make sure the wallet is save for everyday use.
Besides that, not much at the moment. Theoretically Qora has varying block speeds to match the current amount transactions being processed. As there are not that much transactions in the net, this feature is dorment at the moment. I think it will lead to Qora being more efficient than NXT in the end. Can't tell for sure at the moment though.

Doesn't Qora also have a smaller transaction fee than NXT?

And much better client. Launching Nxt client takes forever, plus it's web based. Also everybody can access your Nxt account unlike Qora client, so Qora is more secure. Plus fully functioning Naming Service.

[twistelaar]

Qora Facebook — https://www.facebook.com/qoracoin

Very nice

[PilotofBTC]

I am sure that soon qora will appear on bter.com

Thanks for your comment, but we need people to build and promote this coin. So get to work, we are going to make it happen together.

When someone asks "what are the benefits of Qora over NXT" what do you reply?

To be Honest, I don't know. Tell me, because I want to actively help and build Qora. Thank you.

Security. Qora uses a secure seed to regenerate a Wallet + a private key to make sure the wallet is save for everyday use.
Besides that, not much at the moment. Theoretically Qora has varying block speeds to match the current amount transactions being processed. As there are not that much transactions in the net, this feature is dorment at the moment. I think it will lead to Qora being more efficient than NXT in the end. Can't tell for sure at the moment though.

Doesn't Qora also have a smaller transaction fee than NXT?

And much better client. Launching Nxt client takes forever, plus it's web based. Also everybody can access your Nxt account unlike Qora client, so Qora is more secure. Plus fully functioning Naming Service.

I disagree. The NXT wallet is much superior. I guess I don't care much about opening time, cause I keep wallets open most of the time. It could be that NXT is slower cause it has more blocks to d/l.  Also, if the NXT wallet is running on one PC in your house, you can access it from any other PC.

What do you mean, "everybody can access your Nxt account"?

[Secondleo]

I am sure that soon qora will appear on bter.com

Thanks for your comment, but we need people to build and promote this coin. So get to work, we are going to make it happen together.

When someone asks "what are the benefits of Qora over NXT" what do you reply?

To be Honest, I don't know. Tell me, because I want to actively help and build Qora. Thank you.

Security. Qora uses a secure seed to regenerate a Wallet + a private key to make sure the wallet is save for everyday use.
Besides that, not much at the moment. Theoretically Qora has varying block speeds to match the current amount transactions being processed. As there are not that much transactions in the net, this feature is dorment at the moment. I think it will lead to Qora being more efficient than NXT in the end. Can't tell for sure at the moment though.

Doesn't Qora also have a smaller transaction fee than NXT?

And much better client. Launching Nxt client takes forever, plus it's web based. Also everybody can access your Nxt account unlike Qora client, so Qora is more secure. Plus fully functioning Naming Service.

Theoretically anyone can access your Qora account as well. If they get the right seed, they have the wallet. But getting the seed is only theoretically possible. Also, the NXT client is not web based. It is browser based, but uses a local host. So no, nothing web based there.

And we should not advertise with the Qora client right now. It's still not stable enough.

If you want to advertise, go for the systematic advantages.

[Secondleo]

I am sure that soon qora will appear on bter.com

Thanks for your comment, but we need people to build and promote this coin. So get to work, we are going to make it happen together.

When someone asks "what are the benefits of Qora over NXT" what do you reply?

To be Honest, I don't know. Tell me, because I want to actively help and build Qora. Thank you.

Security. Qora uses a secure seed to regenerate a Wallet + a private key to make sure the wallet is save for everyday use.
Besides that, not much at the moment. Theoretically Qora has varying block speeds to match the current amount transactions being processed. As there are not that much transactions in the net, this feature is dorment at the moment. I think it will lead to Qora being more efficient than NXT in the end. Can't tell for sure at the moment though.

Doesn't Qora also have a smaller transaction fee than NXT?

And much better client. Launching Nxt client takes forever, plus it's web based. Also everybody can access your Nxt account unlike Qora client, so Qora is more secure. Plus fully functioning Naming Service.

I disagree. The NXT wallet is much superior. I guess I don't care much about opening time, cause I keep wallets open most of the time. It could be that NXT is slower cause it has more blocks to d/l.  Also, if the NXT wallet is running on one PC in your house, you can access it from any other PC.

What do you mean, "everybody can access your Nxt account"?

NXT has a brainwallet. Whomever knows your passphrase gets to access the account you made. Qora has something similar, but the generated seeds should be secure.

[Pentamon]

How I got the Qora client working on Mac OSX ver 10.9.3

Hmmmm.. My Mac worked fine at v5, just had connectivity issues. Did you download the lastest v6 and install java 7 update 55 first?

Could you please write an instruction for Mac users?

The best (and only) we have so far is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522102.msg6771214;topicseen#msg6771214

Don't know if it's helpful. Lots of people asking how to launch Qora on Mac.

The following steps worked for me:

1. Download the latest version, which you find here :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522102.msg6771479#msg6771479


2. Unzip it to a suitable directory.

3. Open a terminal window, and Check Java version:
Do whatever it takes to have the proper version installed (beyond this scope)

Code:

MacBook-Pro:~ user$ java -version
java version "1.7.0_09"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_09-b05)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.5-b02, mixed mode)

4. In terminal window, change to the expanded directory:

Code:

MacBook-Pro:Qora stefan$ ls -la
total 23000
drwxrwxr-x@ 9 user  staff       306 27 May 12:33 .
drwxr-xr-x  7 user  staff       238 27 May 12:33 ..
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 user  staff      6148 27 May 12:33 .DS_Store
-rwxrwxr-x@ 1 user  staff  11753032 25 May 23:29 Qora.jar
drwxrwxr-x@ 4 user  staff       136 16 May 15:34 images
drwxrwxr-x@ 3 user  staff       102  2 Apr 13:20 libs
-rwxrwxr-x@ 1 user  staff        59 16 May 18:43 run.bat
-rwxrwxr-x@ 1 user  staff        71 16 May 15:53 run.sh
-rwxrwxr-x@ 1 user  staff        84 25 May 23:10 settings.ini

5. Trying to run the executable , gave an error:

Code:

macroots-MacBook-Pro:Qora user$ ./run.sh
-bash: ./run.sh: Operation not permitted

I checked permissions, that seemed to be OK, even though on Linux Mint, permissions for run.sh needed to be made executable.

6. The following command, as suggested for using in Ubuntu elswhere, ( just leaving out the -disablegui flag) started the client successfully:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522102.msg6772874#msg6772874

Code:

MacBook-Pro:Qora user$ java -Xmx256m -Djava.library.path=libs/native -jar Qora.jar

That started it started up successfully.

Then look for the wallet start-up dialog window appearing.
Leave the command line terminal window running, of course.
(control-c will terminate the process)

Of course you can edit the run.sh file accordingly, for easy re-starts.

Pentamon

[dzarmush]

I am sure that soon qora will appear on bter.com

Thanks for your comment, but we need people to build and promote this coin. So get to work, we are going to make it happen together.

When someone asks "what are the benefits of Qora over NXT" what do you reply?

To be Honest, I don't know. Tell me, because I want to actively help and build Qora. Thank you.

Security. Qora uses a secure seed to regenerate a Wallet + a private key to make sure the wallet is save for everyday use.
Besides that, not much at the moment. Theoretically Qora has varying block speeds to match the current amount transactions being processed. As there are not that much transactions in the net, this feature is dorment at the moment. I think it will lead to Qora being more efficient than NXT in the end. Can't tell for sure at the moment though.

Doesn't Qora also have a smaller transaction fee than NXT?

And much better client. Launching Nxt client takes forever, plus it's web based. Also everybody can access your Nxt account unlike Qora client, so Qora is more secure. Plus fully functioning Naming Service.

I disagree. The NXT wallet is much superior. I guess I don't care much about opening time, cause I keep wallets open most of the time. It could be that NXT is slower cause it has more blocks to d/l.  Also, if the NXT wallet is running on one PC in your house, you can access it from any other PC.

What do you mean, "everybody can access your Nxt account"?

Superior? Well, it's larger for sure. But I want the client to be small and fast. Qora client opens in seconds and sending coins is a joy. It's not a problem to open the client just to send 20 QORA giveaway. In Nxt I'd wait at least several people waiting because I'd have to:
1. Start opening the client and wait for about 1 minute while it's dealing with blocks.
2. Open KeePass/Enter long password
3. Open localhost
4. Copy Nxt passphrase in KeePass
5. Paste Nxt passphrase in the client

It's jusy killing me.

With Qora it's just
1. Double click on run.bat
2. Enter short password
3. Send coins

[dzarmush]

I am sure that soon qora will appear on bter.com

Thanks for your comment, but we need people to build and promote this coin. So get to work, we are going to make it happen together.

When someone asks "what are the benefits of Qora over NXT" what do you reply?

To be Honest, I don't know. Tell me, because I want to actively help and build Qora. Thank you.

Security. Qora uses a secure seed to regenerate a Wallet + a private key to make sure the wallet is save for everyday use.
Besides that, not much at the moment. Theoretically Qora has varying block speeds to match the current amount transactions being processed. As there are not that much transactions in the net, this feature is dorment at the moment. I think it will lead to Qora being more efficient than NXT in the end. Can't tell for sure at the moment though.

Doesn't Qora also have a smaller transaction fee than NXT?

And much better client. Launching Nxt client takes forever, plus it's web based. Also everybody can access your Nxt account unlike Qora client, so Qora is more secure. Plus fully functioning Naming Service.

Theoretically anyone can access your Qora account as well. If they get the right seed, they have the wallet. But getting the seed is only theoretically possible. Also, the NXT client is not web based. It is browser based, but uses a local host. So no, nothing web based there.

And we should not advertise with the Qora client right now. It's still not stable enough.

If you want to advertise, go for the systematic advantages.

By web I meant browser, my bad.

I only need short password on the Qora client on my laptop coz seed is secure enough.

In Nxt I need super strong passphrase.

[coralreefer]

I also prefer the Qora wallet over NXT.  Of course these current wallet glitches need to get cleaned up, but I personally find it much easier and quicker to use as well.

[Mrrr]

Don't forget that the Nxt wallet has had many months to evolve. Qora's is relatively new. It will get better as time progresses.

I like Qora's debug window. Gives me the info I need without having to go into console.

The only criticism I could think of is that the Qora wallet is a bit too minimalistic here and there. But since dev pumped out 6 updates in 13 days I'm not too worried.

[peled1986]

I haven't followed nxt that much but as far as I understand the development was paid and will stop in a week?

nice try  

Qora client opens in seconds and sending coins is a joy
With Qora it's just
1. Double click on run.bat
2. Enter short password
3. Send coins

I only need short password on the Qora client on my laptop coz seed is secure enough.
In Nxt I need super strong passphrase.

Also having all your Qora in one address does not increase the chance of generating a block.

It seems qora knows the downfalls of nxt very well.
I guess he should if he is BCnext!  

[coralreefer]

I had a couple of questions about the POS blocks that I was hoping someone could answer:

1) Is the POS reward equal to the transaction fee for the solved block (like NXT)?
2) For the people that have setup nodes, if the node is running without the UI, is it still trying to solve POS blocks?  Or does the wallet need to be open?

[PilotofBTC]

I guess he should if he is BCnext!  

Which I highly doubt is the case.