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June 01, 2014, 09:31:45 PM
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Version 8 is now available.

https://mega.co.nz/#!7xRGEZgS!V4oC3BxnH4NovkF1TXpoKjJj7ld58im5kHl0Pj7DmoI
Please download the application from this post and not from a quote.

MD5: 0a858afe59c8eaedc290f9b6ea51b5db
SHA-1: f71f487a974f450485f3d02a6fe66a43ec61c2a7

This version contains some fixes for the network and synchronization.
I have noticed that when the connection is unstable it can take the application up to an hour to get back to the latest block.
A ping message will be implemented in the next version to reduce this time.

Also most of the issues with the exchanges are client related.
They can't help it if their transactions get somehow orphaned and lost.

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June 01, 2014, 09:32:43 PM
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Version 8 is now available.

https://mega.co.nz/#!7xRGEZgS!V4oC3BxnH4NovkF1TXpoKjJj7ld58im5kHl0Pj7DmoI
Please download the application from this post and not from a quote.

MD5: 0a858afe59c8eaedc290f9b6ea51b5db
SHA-1: f71f487a974f450485f3d02a6fe66a43ec61c2a7

This version contains some fixes for the network and synchronization.
I have noticed that when the connection is unstable it can take the application up to an hour to get back to the latest block.
A ping message will be implemented in the next version to reduce this time.

Also most of the issues with the exchanges are client related.
They can't help it if their transactions get somehow orphaned and lost.

Nice! When do you think the first stable version will be available?

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June 01, 2014, 09:43:23 PM
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Nice! When do you think the first stable version will be available?

It is hard to say when these unexpected problems keep happening.
When your application forks and does not want to synchronize anymore it is best to send me your data files to give me a better idea what goes wrong.

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June 01, 2014, 09:48:47 PM
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Version 8 is now available.

https://mega.co.nz/#!7xRGEZgS!V4oC3BxnH4NovkF1TXpoKjJj7ld58im5kHl0Pj7DmoI
Please download the application from this post and not from a quote.

MD5: 0a858afe59c8eaedc290f9b6ea51b5db
SHA-1: f71f487a974f450485f3d02a6fe66a43ec61c2a7

This version contains some fixes for the network and synchronization.
I have noticed that when the connection is unstable it can take the application up to an hour to get back to the latest block.
A ping message will be implemented in the next version to reduce this time.

Also most of the issues with the exchanges are client related.
They can't help it if their transactions get somehow orphaned and lost.

So fast!
Thank you, you are the best!
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June 01, 2014, 09:55:56 PM
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Great!!

Qora what are your thoughts on a offer option in the name exchange?





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June 01, 2014, 09:58:56 PM
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Great!!

Qora what are your thoughts on a offer option in the name exchange?

You will be able to send a message to the guy offering that name later. That should be enough right?

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June 01, 2014, 10:01:42 PM
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Great!!

Qora what are your thoughts on a offer option in the name exchange?

An offer option could be useful.
I should create some voting system in the client so we can see what the community wants the most.

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June 01, 2014, 10:04:37 PM
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Version 8 is now available.

https://mega.co.nz/#!7xRGEZgS!V4oC3BxnH4NovkF1TXpoKjJj7ld58im5kHl0Pj7DmoI
Please download the application from this post and not from a quote.

MD5: 0a858afe59c8eaedc290f9b6ea51b5db
SHA-1: f71f487a974f450485f3d02a6fe66a43ec61c2a7

This version contains some fixes for the network and synchronization.
I have noticed that when the connection is unstable it can take the application up to an hour to get back to the latest block.
A ping message will be implemented in the next version to reduce this time.

Also most of the issues with the exchanges are client related.
They can't help it if their transactions get somehow orphaned and lost.

So fast!I think this version will be stable.
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June 01, 2014, 10:06:35 PM
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Seems I was on a fork for days!!!

Behold the Tangle Mysteries! Dare to know It's truth.

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June 01, 2014, 10:10:07 PM
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Great!!

Qora what are your thoughts on a offer option in the name exchange?

An offer option could be useful.
I should create some voting system in the client so we can see what the community wants the most.

That would be cool.

Is there anyway you can give us some more details about the algorithm qora uses?





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June 01, 2014, 10:11:21 PM
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Seems I was on a fork for days!!!

It's best to keep an eye on the blockexplorer.
http://coinia.net/qora/blockexplorer.php

As you can see QPVknSmwDryB98Hh8xB7E6U75dGFYwNkJ4 is controlling the chain.
If they keep controlling it I will start forging with the shares that have not been claimed yet.

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June 01, 2014, 10:15:39 PM
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Seems I was on a fork for days!!!

It's best to keep an eye on the blockexplorer.
http://coinia.net/qora/blockexplorer.php

As you can see QPVknSmwDryB98Hh8xB7E6U75dGFYwNkJ4 is controlling the chain.
If they keep controlling it I will start forging with the shares that have not been claimed yet.

That would be good.

The only problem that I had with the fork is that I bought another 5million with escrow, which were shown in my balance but not shown after the resync!

Behold the Tangle Mysteries! Dare to know It's truth.

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June 01, 2014, 10:19:21 PM
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Qora I know you are very busy but is there a day we can setup on irc to have a questions/ answer session?

Would help everyone get to know the coin and dev behind it better.





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Anyone knows if it safe to pull qoras from polo?

(Never going to leave coins on exchanges, learned it the hard way from gox...).
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June 01, 2014, 11:37:49 PM
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Since we don't know much on the technical side of qora, are we going to get to the point where we need to setup nodes on VPS's to help secure the network against a DDOS? I just remember the mad dash we made in Nxt back in the day and want to be prepared in advance.

If the answer is yes, then I suggest everyone take advantage of the Free Tier VPS's http://aws.amazon.com/free/

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Wonderful!
The version 8.0 resolve my problem
My Qora are in the wallet now thank you master ^^
I can not wait to vote in the next client Smiley
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Thank you for the great work Qora.
Would there be a way to mark an Exchange, or have them spilt their Qora? I think a split function/method for distribution per address in one wallet would be great and also it could create a child wallet (we have 10 addresses in a wallet by default) if one seed has too many. It would be nice to split if one wallet/total of addresses is over X% Or # of Qora per address/wallet. This would be a very simplified attempt at mitigating forks/attacks, etc..

Seems I was on a fork for days!!!

It's best to keep an eye on the blockexplorer.
http://coinia.net/qora/blockexplorer.php

As you can see QPVknSmwDryB98Hh8xB7E6U75dGFYwNkJ4 is controlling the chain.
If they keep controlling it I will start forging with the shares that have not been claimed yet.

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New version looks good Smiley





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June 02, 2014, 03:33:00 AM
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Complaining about distribution is like complaining about block difficulty going up. Then poor miners can't pump and dump because they can't afford newer mining rigs/equiptment. Fact - POW is doomed. POS is the future (at least for now).

Qora is still in it's infancy and will find it's niche. The selling is great for distribution and will continue. Nxt is blazing a path that other POS alt's such as Qora can follow or avoid and the long term outlook is great.

If you are looking for a quick pump and dump, there are plenty of other shitcoins to take a look at so don't waste your breath here. This is a Proof-of-Stake coin with Proof-of-Stake supporters, so you little miner's can go back to checking the temperatures of your gpu's or selling coins to pay your electric.

POS in general has still the problem of sybil attacks.
I'm not convinced POS is the future. At least not in it's current form.
There is still a lot of technical progress to be made before it can be seen as completly secure.

There is no doubt that the threat of sybil attacks in POS is true: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_attack  

Solutions may include stronger peer network and successful mechanisms to blacklist, secure identity system, etc. More on trust metrics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advogato#Trust_metric

Qora and our community are smart (as well as countless other POS devs and supportive community members) and continue to think of security options. Interesting points on DHT used for sybil attacks (know your enemy) - http://www.cos.ufrj.br/~monnerat/papers/Monnerat_et_Amorim_D1HT_2006.pdf


If you don't like Qora - that is fine. But nobody really cares, honestly, they don't. If you must hear yourself talk take a garden hose and hold one end up to your ear and the other to your mouth, you'll find yourself in true bliss.

Hilarious! LOL  Grin


The whole current POS dilemma boils down to one point: Why did Satoshi leave BTC? Because he saw the project as failed. Multipools started to kill it. So now he is sitting somewhere and thinking on how the problem of Proof can be solves in a way that creates a system which is either ungameable or provides zero or negative incentive to even try.

POS is a nice system, but basically it failed already in all current implementations.
So the loop closes... how did Qora solve it? Did Qora solve it?

Hmm, interesting to consider ungameable or zero incentive scenarios to thwart gaming proof systems...any ideas how to improve? As such, we can't speak much to this as we don't quite know yet what's under qora's hood. The truth is that nothing is perfect...nothing. What's important is providing the most secure system as possible given the current POS parameters we are working with. There are defenses against sybil, they may have just not yet been implemented....I think the most important at this point is strengthening our peer network....this is something we can do


I added a new chart.
total daily amount
http://coinia.net/qora/blockexplorer.php?statistics

Very nice agran! Very nice indeed...thank you kind sir.


Version 8 is now available.

Consistent and steady pace to catch other cryptocurrencies!

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come on , keeping moving , add more apps .
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