[ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source

[Conurtrol]

I've got 20 million Qora on Poloniex that I can't withdraw because their Qora wallet is still not working. I'd like to invest 5 million in the AT. Would anyone consider fronting it until Poloniex fixes their wallet?

By the way, they are claiming it's a dev issue. Is that true?

[20:52:27] <Vrontis> busoni replied this : oloniex seems to have caused a fork a while ago, but we have not been on a fork recently -- we've been in sync with the block explorer. The problems we're having are with the Qora wallet crashing, and I'm working them out with the dev. We are running the latest version.
[20:57:09] <Qora> Problem with poloniex is that their wallet has more then 5000 addresses and it causes problems when it has to scan the whole blockchain.

So does that mean the dev has to do something or Poloniex needs to fix their wallet?

[vytasz7]

Well, I hope the holders of the 250m coins make good use of it. I really hope they could stay around and keep the coins. I don't mind the price falling if they sell, in fact I'd like that 'cuz I'd buy, I just think it'd be good for us to have more interesting people around, and having 2.5% of the currency is a great motivation by itself. Imagine if qora ever is priced at 50m$ then their 2.5% stake would be worth 1.25m$. That's not too hard considering nxt already was priced at 100m$ before. Speaking of 2.5% and nxt, I wonder how much did the at team was paid in nxt. I bet it was something far from 2.5%, probably not even 0.5% (I wanna guess 0.1%)

I know nxt is priced much higher, but qora is much better. Feature-wise, can anyone say something we don't have and nxt does? I know we have alias trading, voting system and asset/asset exchange which nxt does not have. So it seems nxt is priced higher only because of the network effect, its assets and members. Honestly, I see a bright future for nxt. I only hold nxt and qora, but I am now considering selling some nxt to purchase some qora.
Can anyone please confirm if I'm right? Are we already much ahead of nxt feature-wise? Thanks.

nxt bigest advantage is open source, more devs and jl777 at the moment qora is way behind  because of 1 dev .I hope it could change with AT team

[rabbiter]

Well, I hope the holders of the 250m coins make good use of it. I really hope they could stay around and keep the coins. I don't mind the price falling if they sell, in fact I'd like that 'cuz I'd buy, I just think it'd be good for us to have more interesting people around, and having 2.5% of the currency is a great motivation by itself. Imagine if qora ever is priced at 50m$ then their 2.5% stake would be worth 1.25m$. That's not too hard considering nxt already was priced at 100m$ before. Speaking of 2.5% and nxt, I wonder how much did the at team was paid in nxt. I bet it was something far from 2.5%, probably not even 0.5% (I wanna guess 0.1%)

I know nxt is priced much higher, but qora is much better. Feature-wise, can anyone say something we don't have and nxt does? I know we have alias trading, voting system and asset/asset exchange which nxt does not have. So it seems nxt is priced higher only because of the network effect, its assets and members. Honestly, I see a bright future for nxt. I only hold nxt and qora, but I am now considering selling some nxt to purchase some qora.
Can anyone please confirm if I'm right? Are we already much ahead of nxt feature-wise? Thanks.

nxt bigest advantage is open source, more devs and jl777 at the moment qora is way behind  because of 1 dev .I hope it could change with AT team

I personally think we shouldn't wait one single day to go OS, everything starts with OS. Unfortunately I expect it to be a month or two. 

[vytasz7]

Well, I hope the holders of the 250m coins make good use of it. I really hope they could stay around and keep the coins. I don't mind the price falling if they sell, in fact I'd like that 'cuz I'd buy, I just think it'd be good for us to have more interesting people around, and having 2.5% of the currency is a great motivation by itself. Imagine if qora ever is priced at 50m$ then their 2.5% stake would be worth 1.25m$. That's not too hard considering nxt already was priced at 100m$ before. Speaking of 2.5% and nxt, I wonder how much did the at team was paid in nxt. I bet it was something far from 2.5%, probably not even 0.5% (I wanna guess 0.1%)

I know nxt is priced much higher, but qora is much better. Feature-wise, can anyone say something we don't have and nxt does? I know we have alias trading, voting system and asset/asset exchange which nxt does not have. So it seems nxt is priced higher only because of the network effect, its assets and members. Honestly, I see a bright future for nxt. I only hold nxt and qora, but I am now considering selling some nxt to purchase some qora.
Can anyone please confirm if I'm right? Are we already much ahead of nxt feature-wise? Thanks.

nxt bigest advantage is open source, more devs and jl777 at the moment qora is way behind  because of 1 dev .I hope it could change with AT team

I personally think we shouldn't wait one single day to go OS, everything starts with OS. Unfortunately I expect it to be a month or two. 

agree

[rabbiter]

Poll: when should qora open source?
Creator: QRWQ67MqGPDCHXF4kpBkfDfBT4EMbPNvEh
Options: Right now, Open source of v1 now, full open source in january, november, december, january, february, march, another time
I think it'd be good if top 5 accounts do not vote since they are too strong. I will not eliminate their votes nor order them not to vote, I just ask them to think about it.
I vote for open source of v1 now, full open source in january

As much as I personally want OS now I want to follow Qora's lead. Hopefully he wont take too long with the things he wants done first. We have made too many mistakes not following Qora fully.

[klee]

Hey I'm new to the thread can anyone give me the cliff notes on why I should drop a couple BTC here. Thanks!

Same here.

I sense an extensive post coming.

Well, apart from having the chance to get in and ride the train of the BEST 2nd GEN cryptocurrency,
here are some of the features in brief:

• New code, totally built from scratch, original and not a clone.
• Naming exchange integrated. You can buy/sell key pairs.
• Voting feature implemented (community already voted for the sequence in which features will get implemented). Democratic and fast.
• Asset exchange with advantages that NO OTHER crypto has - eg. an asset can have dividends & asset/asset exchange is supported.
• Qora has the best approach for user simplicity - it is so user friendly that even a total newbie can use it.
• It has a new POS algorithm - depends on activity and amount of coins your wallet holds, if I remember well.
• The block time depends on network activity.
• It has arbitrary transaction support integrated into the core, so developers can build apps on top of qora (eg. chat/blog apps).
• It boosts the transaction speed, by not having to broadcast the transactions to the whole network.
• There is maximum wallet security -> you have to enter a seed and not just a password to gain access to your wallet.
• You can forge new blocks without leaving the wallet unlocked.
• Qora will have Automated Transactions build-in to the core, once the crowdfunding succeeds. It will be the first to have such huge innovation. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=822100.0
• The developer has shown that he has extremely high competence in programming, he is very communicative and to me he is the only one who can code efficiently and at an extremely high speed.
• Qora is just starting..so don't miss the chance to get in. It's way too cheap now imho. It should be in the top 3 list of cryptocoins worldwide. With such a dedicated dev and features being constantly built inside qora, it's a win-win situation.

Desperate bagholder detected!

[wizzardTim]

Desperate bagholder detected!

Hi klee!   

Lol. Klee! Nice to see you around. Get in qora while you can!!

[vytasz7]

klee is the best account security specialist ,if somebody wants to loose crypto just ask klee ,he will help .

[zercrypt]

Hi together,
its now the second time, i made a transaction and the qora never arrived at the recipient account.
First time it was from Bter to poloniex before about 4 weeks. 2m gone! Bter / poloniex didn't help me/ could not do anything. I thougt it was because of the sidechain issue.
Second time was yesterday from my wallet to poloniex. 5m never arrived!
Are there still issues with qora blockchains or is it a problem from polo?

Any help would be kindly appreciated.
Thanks! 

I got the details:

Signature: jM3ucEgmEBVW2vwoZcj7RhhrnXWqQyP8kYqTCEbf8k3fhB1yMXWEdYrvukdkTL469uCboP3X2QkHxvx m7yThEpg
Reference: 2CEL1bL5oTHNEUfNzLFWcVtrrQSMtN3QgoSFQ6d3kNsyfSqk7DVa9ke7W4KdnLrjatkdi1QqaW9MBjz 91BAyYaDq
Timestamp: 14.10.2014 22:03:01
Sender: QfRxiLmmegTe8JZM2q2tWotEJHCXqMRtgf
Recipient: QWqMo7QxN6Hnq6nCMWxDZg4Mt98mmGSrsM
Amount: 4997930.37060700
Fee: 1.00000000
Confirmations: 2

there are only 2 confirmations since yesterday , is this possible?

Thank you for your help!

[Conurtrol]

If there are any Qora whales who would buy 5 million shares of the AT asset and then sell them to me when Poloniex fixes their Qora wallet then I would be very grateful. Please pm if you can do this. Thank you.

[zercrypt]

If there are any Qora whales who would buy 5 million shares of the AT asset and then sell them to me when Poloniex fixes their Qora wallet then I would be very grateful. Please pm if you can do this. Thank you.

Ok, I'll do that for you. PM me when you want your shares. I'll have them reserved for you until 3 days after poloniex fixes their problem, which I'll know when since they have funds of mine frozen as well.  

Hi together,
its now the second time, i made a transaction and the qora never arrived at the recipient account.
First time it was from Bter to poloniex before about 4 weeks. 2m gone! Bter / poloniex didn't help me/ could not do anything. I thougt it was because of the sidechain issue.
Second time was yesterday from my wallet to poloniex. 5m never arrived!
Are there still issues with qora blockchains or is it a problem from polo?

Any help would be kindly appreciated.
Thanks!  

I got the details:

Signature: jM3ucEgmEBVW2vwoZcj7RhhrnXWqQyP8kYqTCEbf8k3fhB1yMXWEdYrvukdkTL469uCboP3X2QkHxvx m7yThEpg
Reference: 2CEL1bL5oTHNEUfNzLFWcVtrrQSMtN3QgoSFQ6d3kNsyfSqk7DVa9ke7W4KdnLrjatkdi1QqaW9MBjz 91BAyYaDq
Timestamp: 14.10.2014 22:03:01
Sender: QfRxiLmmegTe8JZM2q2tWotEJHCXqMRtgf
Recipient: QWqMo7QxN6Hnq6nCMWxDZg4Mt98mmGSrsM
Amount: 4997930.37060700
Fee: 1.00000000
Confirmations: 2

there are only 2 confirmations since yesterday , is this possible?

Thank you for your help!

There are not only 2 confirmations. It's at 283 confirmations right now according to blockchain. You need to recover your previous 2m which you consider lost. You donated them to exchanges. It's your right (and duty) to retrieve them. As for these 5m, poloniex has them but they are facing problems. Contact them, but be aware they will not do anything now as they are only blaming qora and not themselves. They are holding my qora for more than a week now. They are pratically handing the entire trading qora market to bter with such attitudes.

I just opened a ticket and they say they are waiting for the qora devs to solve the wallet issue. like you said, they are blaming qora... so i will wait.

[Conurtrol]

Thank you Renat0

[xyz]

Get your coins off poloniex and bter if you're not trading them. Storing your assets in exchanges is a stupid idea. It's not yours if you cannot control, so consider it not yours. Not only that, but you should be forging with those coins. Please take them off exchanges and use them to protect the network. You need not to do anything but leave your client running unlocked. It's that simple.

That's right! I agree - but first you have to buy some coins somewhere!!!
If I was new here and wanted to buy some coins I had to buy them from poloniex - and had problems...
Then a member here offered me to buy Qora coins directely from him and I did - and THAT was perfect! That's an advice!!!

[Vrontis]

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Turing Complete

In less than 24 hours the crowdfunding for the integration of the Automated Transactions has been fulfilled and the Qora community embraced the AT team by overbuying the ATFunding asset.Right now remaining unit's are 20,643,121 and there have already been sold 229,356,879 unit's of the ATFunding asset.

The truth is that I'm speechless .. I'm really amazed by Qora community who have embraced this reminding again that Qora is all about innovation!!!!!
A long awaited feature for the entire world of cryptocurrencies will be integrated into Qora and this is because of Qora community who decided to make it happen!!!

As I said I am really speechless.. I have nothing more to say!! Thank you all for making this real!!!

The asset of the AT team regarding Qora will be created soon and announced by the AT team with all the needed details.

In the pre announcement I have stated that I will provide escrow services for this integration.The funds will be released to the AT team by me partially when I have proofs of the integration process.Any recommendations about this would be fully appreciated. I hope to release the funds the soonest possible and to have AT running on Qora in a few days!But this is something between the developers and they will coordinate it properly.


PS : Some details has been discussed earlier today at Qora chat.You can find them here
PS2 : I'm not going to forge for the entire period that I will hold the amount of this crowdfunding.

[peled1986]

In less than 24 hours the crowdfunding for the integration of the Automated Transactions has been fulfilled and the Qora community embraced the AT team by overbuying the ATFunding asset.Right now remaining unit's are 20,643,121 and there have already been sold 229,356,879 unit's of the ATFunding asset.

250,000,000 unit's of the ATFunding asset have been sold: http://qora.co.in/?q=QYsLsfwMRBPnunmuWmFkM4hvGsfooY8ssU

[PondSea]

Sold out

[Vrontis]

All the units of the ATFUnding asset has been sold!!!

PS : there was a an accidental transaction, 20,643,103.00000000 Qora has been send to asset's issuer address ( transaction details ) and they have been returned back to the sender ( transaction details ).

[freigeist]

Hello.

Could somebody give some info or small help?

If I bought an asset shouldn't it be listed under assets tab?
I see that I'm a holder when I check the details for the asset under "all assets" and then when i click particular asset in the list.

Also when I add an asset to favorites how(where) do I see this favorites?
Is this kind of bug or some functionality under assets needs to be implemented yet.

I run the latest version 18 on a linux machine and I checked the latest block
is same as the qora blockexplorer.

Thanks.

[PondSea]

Hello.

Could somebody give some info or small help?

If I bought an asset shouldn't it be listed under assets tab?
I see that I'm a holder when I check the details for the asset under "all assets" and then when i click particular asset in the list.

Also when I add an asset to favorites how(where) do I see this favorites?
Is this kind of bug or some functionality under assets needs to be implemented yet.

I run the latest version 18 on a linux machine and I checked the latest block
is same as the qora blockexplorer.

Thanks.

Dont think it has been implemented yet. Same thing in.Windows.

[Vrontis]

Hello.

Could somebody give some info or small help?

If I bought an asset shouldn't it be listed under assets tab?
I see that I'm a holder when I check the details for the asset under "all assets" and then when i click particular asset in the list.

Also when I add an asset to favorites how(where) do I see this favorites?
Is this kind of bug or some functionality under assets needs to be implemented yet.

I run the latest version 18 on a linux machine and I checked the latest block
is same as the qora blockexplorer.

Thanks.

Dont think it has been implemented yet. Same thing in.Windows.

On the main tab where are your addresses listed, above of the first address it says Qora, click on that and a drop down menu will be appeared which is displaying all of your favorites assets.Select the asset you are holding ( it needs to be added to favorites first) and then the units will be displayed next to the address.

On the assets tab is listed all the assets you have issued.