🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[inthelongrun]

So after Tundra ESports finally became TI champions, an earlier this year drama that led to Fata's removal is brought back into the spotlight. It started after Tundra coach Aui_2000 posted a blog about his DOTA 2 journey. The blog blog specifically highlighted on how FATA was kicked. Earlier I heard about Fata's removal but it was not a big deal to me since it is normal when players and teams to come and go when they aren't fit each other. So I don't really know if it makes sense for Aui_2000 to highlight the issue for public consumption. So far Tundra coach Sneyking reacted with his own series of tweets. As if the issue is as dramatic as the NoTail-Fly saga a few years ago. I am not a big fan of Aui_2000 and I think he is still the same guy who talks too much without limitations, one of the reasons why he was booted out just a few days after he won TI 2015.

New DPC rules and changes:
1. Roster change penalty from 15% to 20%.
2. DPC points are rounded down per event.
3. Maximum of substitutions with a huge 40% penalty on points earned per substitution.

Hopefully, there will be no majors to be held in the US, especially the next TI.

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[jakelyson]

Hopefully, there will be no majors to be held in the US, especially the next TI.

Yeah, there are too many denied a visa if the games are held in the USA. This prevents teams from performing on their best level since they need substitution to fill up their roster. And with the penalty bumped up, this will greatly affect teams with players that are denied their visa.


I read that TorontoTokyo is recently playing Pub matches using support heroes. There are rumors that TorontoTokyo is looking to create a new team with Nightfall and Save- after their disappointing finish in the recently concluded TI 2022. TorontoTokyo is still in contract with Team Spirit but because of their finish in TI, there might be a roster change in Team Spirit. Larl is seen practicing with the team in place of TorontoTokyo.

If they drop TorontoTokyo and he creates a new team, he might play support in this new team. He mostly played mid in his professional career so this move will be a big adjustment.

[CLS63]

BLAST Premier Fall Final is about to start tomorrow.

4 teams are already decided to join BLAST Premier World Final. These teams are Outsiders, Natus Vincere, Vitality and FaZe. The winner of the current tournament is going to have the right to join the World Final directly. The remaining three teams are going to join considering BLAST ranking.

There are two groups in the Fall Final now. My favourite team in Group A is Heroic to be honest. I know that there is FaZe there as well. However their form has dropped a lot in the recent times. Especially their Major performance was horrible as they were eliminated in the group stage already, 0-3. I know that there are G2 and Liquid in Group B but I still want to believe in Natus Vincere to reach upper final and be the winner there. They just need to improve their team effort a little more.

[ralle14]

Hopefully, there will be no majors to be held in the US, especially the next TI.

I've heard some rumors spread during TI and they said it'll happen in Seattle. I honestly would prefer it to be in the US if it means that they could bring back that similar production quality from the previous TIs.

The roster shuffles from the side of League are also getting interesting, Viper leaves EDG and moves to Hanwha Life and there was a rumor that Scout might move as well since the contracts from the EDG players haven't been renewed yet.

[CLS63]

There is no surprise so far in BLAST Premier Fall Final.

FaZe completely destroyed OG by big map scores. It was a really big effort by them which was promising and surprising at the same time. Because after seeing their terrible Major performance it was difficult to predict when they would pull themselves together. Heroic lost the first map against NIP but they made a strong comeback by getting comfortable wins on Ancient and Overpass. Upper Final in Group A now is FaZe - Heroic.

Natus Vincere had a really easy opponent like Fluxo and we didn't see any surprise on both maps. Right now Liquid are playing against G2 on the first map, Vertigo. They are close to winning it as it is 14-9 now. This is pretty interesting because it was G2's pick. When we check the win rates we can clearly see that there is a huge difference between them. This is like one of the worst maps for Liquid normally. Mirage and Inferno (decider) are the other maps and Liquid have better stats on both. So they might really be Natus Vincere's opponent in Upper Final in Group B.

[batang_bitcoin]

Hopefully, there will be no majors to be held in the US, especially the next TI.

I've heard some rumors spread during TI and they said it'll happen in Seattle. I honestly would prefer it to be in the US if it means that they could bring back that similar production quality from the previous TIs.

Sadly, that's also what I've heard that there will be one major that will happen in the US. And that made a lot of comments in the Dota 2 community because whenever there's a lan event in the US, we're all expecting that there will be a lot of players to deal with their respective VISA issues.
Valve has to do something with that because it didn't just happened once but many times. They have to act like partners to the players because they're the biggest and major sponsors for those tournaments. I think that's the least that they can do which is the biggest thing for those players that has and will experience VISA issues if qualified to enter into that region to compete.

[ralle14]

EG's new Dota squad for the next DPC season is finally revealed. It's already expected with so many leaks and some of the fans don't like the transition but I hope these players continue to do good after showing up big during TI.

https://twitter.com/EvilGeniuses/status/1595540239140823040

Valve has to do something with that because it didn't just happened once but many times. They have to act like partners to the players because they're the biggest and major sponsors for those tournaments. I think that's the least that they can do which is the biggest thing for those players that has and will experience VISA issues if qualified to enter into that region to compete.

With how Valve has been operating and getting involved in the tournaments that would be a miracle if they decide to reach out to all the teams but I think at best they'll probably just give them enough time to settle their VISA.

[sunsilk]

EG's new Dota squad for the next DPC season is finally revealed. It's already expected with so many leaks and some of the fans don't like the transition but I hope these players continue to do good after showing up big during TI.

Yeah, it's been expected. 2 from beastcoast + 3 from the Thunder Awaken. Well, right now we've also seen the announcement of Fnatic for this BTS season 13.

They're composed of:

1. Gabbi
2. Armel
3. Kpii
4. DJ
5. Jaunuel
Source: https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=574433881349088&set=a.138922008233613

I've watched their debut match a while ago against Xerxia and they've lost.

[Peanutswar]

EG's new Dota squad for the next DPC season is finally revealed. It's already expected with so many leaks and some of the fans don't like the transition but I hope these players continue to do good after showing up big during TI.

Yeah, it's been expected. 2 from beastcoast + 3 from the Thunder Awaken. Well, right now we've also seen the announcement of Fnatic for this BTS season 13.

They're composed of:

1. Gabbi
2. Armel
3. Kpii
4. DJ
5. Jaunuel
Source: https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=574433881349088&set=a.138922008233613

I've watched their debut match a while ago against Xerxia and they've lost.

This time they make a rotation which they swap Raven for Gabbi we know the combination of these players and how does Kpii make a good coaching, its been run for too long that DJ part of the fnatic they really don't let this player get into other teams, most likely in the SEA Tims and DJ are the really good position 4 player, this Fnatic seems like a new version of TNC before, also EG changes their player already so they tried to make a new changes like the OG did in their previous teams.

[sunsilk]

EG's new Dota squad for the next DPC season is finally revealed. It's already expected with so many leaks and some of the fans don't like the transition but I hope these players continue to do good after showing up big during TI.

Yeah, it's been expected. 2 from beastcoast + 3 from the Thunder Awaken. Well, right now we've also seen the announcement of Fnatic for this BTS season 13.

They're composed of:

1. Gabbi
2. Armel
3. Kpii
4. DJ
5. Jaunuel
Source: https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=574433881349088&set=a.138922008233613

I've watched their debut match a while ago against Xerxia and they've lost.

This time they make a rotation which they swap Raven for Gabbi we know the combination of these players and how does Kpii make a good coaching, its been run for too long that DJ part of the fnatic they really don't let this player get into other teams, most likely in the SEA Tims and DJ are the really good position 4 player, this Fnatic seems like a new version of TNC before, also EG changes their player already so they tried to make a new changes like the OG did in their previous teams.

DJ is precious and they don't want to release him because he's really such a talented player. It's a steal for the other teams if they're going to release him. The 2nd game against Xerxia, they've won.

On the other team, it's now official that Blacklist-International Dota 2 roster have been announced. The rumor about this team have come into reality.

1. Raven
2. Karl
3. Kuku
4. Tims
5. Eyyou
Source: https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=578498047610833&set=a.215478203912821

There will be no communication barrier for these players and all of them are experienced and great players. It's now one of the most awaited team.

[abel1337]

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This time they make a rotation which they swap Raven for Gabbi we know the combination of these players and how does Kpii make a good coaching, its been run for too long that DJ part of the fnatic they really don't let this player get into other teams, most likely in the SEA Tims and DJ are the really good position 4 player, this Fnatic seems like a new version of TNC before, also EG changes their player already so they tried to make a new changes like the OG did in their previous teams.

DJ is precious and they don't want to release him because he's really such a talented player. It's a steal for the other teams if they're going to release him. The 2nd game against Xerxia, they've won.

On the other team, it's now official that Blacklist-International Dota 2 roster have been announced. The rumor about this team have come into reality.

1. Raven
2. Karl
3. Kuku
4. Tims
5. Eyyou
Source: https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=578498047610833&set=a.215478203912821

There will be no communication barrier for these players and all of them are experienced and great players. It's now one of the most awaited team.

I've seen fan pages earlier that have posted their roster prediction and it is obviously edited and pure speculation but I'm amazed that the speculative poster where the exactly the Blacklist international roster which were posted 6 hours apart. What an amazing community predicting who will be the Blacklist roster will be. This will be a sure hype for Filipino fans since it's a Filipino made team and yeah the communication isn't a problem and addition to that 3 out of 5 players where competed in the TI at the same team which is famous for the OG upset in 2016. I'm pretty glad that they signed kuku and others Filipino members to build that kind of team.

[Eternad]

I've seen fan pages earlier that have posted their roster prediction and it is obviously edited and pure speculation but I'm amazed that the speculative poster where the exactly the Blacklist international roster which were posted 6 hours apart. What an amazing community predicting who will be the Blacklist roster will be. This will be a sure hype for Filipino fans since it's a Filipino made team and yeah the communication isn't a problem and addition to that 3 out of 5 players where competed in the TI at the same team which is famous for the OG upset in 2016. I'm pretty glad that they signed kuku and others Filipino members to build that kind of team.

Typically the rumor on the social media about this kind of news is came from a reliable source since Filipino always want to spoil everything even though it’s not officially announced publicly. People on Kuyanic pages has connection on different PH Esports Team and probably the one who started this leak has an insider connection. 60% of the rumor on the PH social media chat is always tho.

I’m surprised that Kuku is still being given value to still form a team like this. I think should just do coach role instead of doing offlane since he is not effective anymore on competitive play. He is just a burden most of the time if his hero feed on laning phase. BlackList surely expanding now to Dota2 right after dominating the ML. 

[CLS63]

This is the current look of the playoff stage in BLAST Fall Final.

Today I watched FaZe - Heroic matchup. It was like there was a completely different FaZe in this series. Because they showed a much stronger performance comparing to their Major performance. It looks like they have learned their lesson and they want to bring back their successful times again. Heroic were really desperate against them on Inferno. FaZe crushed them by 16-5 there. It was a T-sided map maybe but Heroic couldn't show much of an existence on T side in the second half.

Right now, Natus Vincere - Liquid series is going on. It is really competitive after two close map scores. We are on the decider map which is Mirage. This map is very favourable for both teams so we can see any of them winning here. Liquid are 7-3 ahead now but I still want to stay positive about Natus Vincere to win this.

[passwordnow]

Typically the rumor on the social media about this kind of news is came from a reliable source since Filipino always want to spoil everything even though it’s not officially announced publicly. People on Kuyanic pages has connection on different PH Esports Team and probably the one who started this leak has an insider connection. 60% of the rumor on the PH social media chat is always tho.

When people got a connection with the players, they're the first one to hear the actual news and they make it play like a rumor and sends to the community.

I’m surprised that Kuku is still being given value to still form a team like this. I think should just do coach role instead of doing offlane since he is not effective anymore on competitive play. He is just a burden most of the time if his hero feed on laning phase. BlackList surely expanding now to Dota2 right after dominating the ML. 

He's still good and got the experience, I think he fits his role but not as a captain. We've seen how he's not effective with T1 together with topson and ana and that's an obvious communication issue for them. You just can't command two TI winners easily because it's sort of intimidating and that made kuku put all the blame on him.

[Balmain]

This is the current look of the playoff stage in BLAST Fall Final.

Today I watched FaZe - Heroic matchup. It was like there was a completely different FaZe in this series. Because they showed a much stronger performance comparing to their Major performance. It looks like they have learned their lesson and they want to bring back their successful times again. Heroic were really desperate against them on Inferno. FaZe crushed them by 16-5 there. It was a T-sided map maybe but Heroic couldn't show much of an existence on T side in the second half.

Right now, Natus Vincere - Liquid series is going on. It is really competitive after two close map scores. We are on the decider map which is Mirage. This map is very favourable for both teams so we can see any of them winning here. Liquid are 7-3 ahead now but I still want to stay positive about Natus Vincere to win this.

I was able to watch a little of the Faze Heroic match, more precisely, I watched the Inferno map. Twist and Karrigan were amazing. Karrigan was in the role of entry. Twist walked from behind and finished off their opponents. I was late to watch this map with Ancient map which resulted in more competitive.

The funniest and competive match of the day. It was the Navi-Liquid match, I enjoyed watching it, especially when I was watching Nitr0, it was the star of the match.

Navi couldn't respond to Team Liquidi's quick t game on the Mirage map. Although S1mple had 18 frags, they only won 4 rounds in the first half. In the second half, S1mple struggled again, but his teammates were very insufficient, although S1mple managed to make a total of 27 frags.

[jakelyson]

I've seen fan pages earlier that have posted their roster prediction and it is obviously edited and pure speculation but I'm amazed that the speculative poster where the exactly the Blacklist international roster which were posted 6 hours apart. What an amazing community predicting who will be the Blacklist roster will be. This will be a sure hype for Filipino fans since it's a Filipino made team and yeah the communication isn't a problem and addition to that 3 out of 5 players where competed in the TI at the same team which is famous for the OG upset in 2016. I'm pretty glad that they signed kuku and others Filipino members to build that kind of team.

It is dubbed as the Filipino redeem team, so it is supposed to be an all-Filipino team. I hope they get their target and that is to put an all-Filipino team back into TI. And not just back in TI but maybe finished at the top. I know many Filipinos will support this team since their CEO have a lot of followers. Even their ML counterpart has a lot of followers as well. It will surely put a lot of confidence to the players if they know a lot of their Filipino fans are supporting them.

I’m surprised that Kuku is still being given value to still form a team like this. I think should just do coach role instead of doing offlane since he is not effective anymore on competitive play. He is just a burden most of the time if his hero feed on laning phase. BlackList surely expanding now to Dota2 right after dominating the ML. 

Maybe give him a chance first. But do we have any information on who will coach this team? It is also a vital team member of any DOTA team. Someone who can draft well, motivates their team and read the weakness of the other.

[ralle14]

I’m surprised that Kuku is still being given value to still form a team like this. I think should just do coach role instead of doing offlane since he is not effective anymore on competitive play. He is just a burden most of the time if his hero feed on laning phase. BlackList surely expanding now to Dota2 right after dominating the ML.  

I still think he's a good offlaner even though they crumbled in TI and we can't assume that just because the team is struggling already means that he's the only one bringing the team down and there might not be a lot of offlaners that could mesh with this kind of lineup.

With so many roster announcements and reveals this week hopefully we see some EU teams next.

[ILuckyGuyI]

NaVi are still having difficulties. They lost to Liquid one more time after having the same scenario in last Major. Mirage was one of the good maps for them but they still couldn't prevent a big loss like 16-7. Even though Mirage is a little more advantageous for CTs, NaVi's performance there was horrible (11-4). Perfecto (9 frags) and b1t (6 frags) were the members who dragged them down the most. These players are normally among the best fraggers of the team but they must just have had a bad day.

If NaVi manage to beat NIP today then they will be FaZe's competitor in semi finals. It would be lovely to watch these teams facing each other again after a long time. Both of them have been consistent recently so it is difficult to predict which side would advance. For now, FaZe have impressed me by a solid effort against Heroic.

[sunsilk]

On the other team, it's now official that Blacklist-International Dota 2 roster have been announced. The rumor about this team have come into reality.

1. Raven
2. Karl
3. Kuku
4. Tims
5. Eyyou
Source: https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=578498047610833&set=a.215478203912821

There will be no communication barrier for these players and all of them are experienced and great players. It's now one of the most awaited team.

I've seen fan pages earlier that have posted their roster prediction and it is obviously edited and pure speculation but I'm amazed that the speculative poster where the exactly the Blacklist international roster which were posted 6 hours apart. What an amazing community predicting who will be the Blacklist roster will be. This will be a sure hype for Filipino fans since it's a Filipino made team and yeah the communication isn't a problem and addition to that 3 out of 5 players where competed in the TI at the same team which is famous for the OG upset in 2016. I'm pretty glad that they signed kuku and others Filipino members to build that kind of team.

That's not pure speculation.

Probably a close friend from any of those player or the organization itself, it's been shared already and didn't want to have it said as an official so they made it look like a pure speculation.

There's always an insider and someone people who are aware of the roster changes. If I remember, there's one that's been doing that on the reddit in the name of lgdamefan. But he's missing in action this season.

[dothebeats]

On the other team, it's now official that Blacklist-International Dota 2 roster have been announced. The rumor about this team have come into reality.

1. Raven
2. Karl
3. Kuku
4. Tims
5. Eyyou
Source: https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=578498047610833&set=a.215478203912821

There will be no communication barrier for these players and all of them are experienced and great players. It's now one of the most awaited team.

I've seen fan pages earlier that have posted their roster prediction and it is obviously edited and pure speculation but I'm amazed that the speculative poster where the exactly the Blacklist international roster which were posted 6 hours apart. What an amazing community predicting who will be the Blacklist roster will be. This will be a sure hype for Filipino fans since it's a Filipino made team and yeah the communication isn't a problem and addition to that 3 out of 5 players where competed in the TI at the same team which is famous for the OG upset in 2016. I'm pretty glad that they signed kuku and others Filipino members to build that kind of team.

That's not pure speculation.

Probably a close friend from any of those player or the organization itself, it's been shared already and didn't want to have it said as an official so they made it look like a pure speculation.

There's always an insider and someone people who are aware of the roster changes. If I remember, there's one that's been doing that on the reddit in the name of lgdamefan. But he's missing in action this season.

It's pretty obvious from the get go. Tryke, one of the bosses of Blacklist, is actually good friends with all of those that were acquired by the org for their dota roster. I'm just not sure why they picked Raven over Gabbi in the carry position given that Gabbi has gained notoriety for his role with these guys (Tims, Kuku) as his supports. But whatever talks they had behind closed doors, for sure Gabbi was considered, it's just that Raven, perhaps, may have been actively putting his best foot forward with the recommendation of Kuku as well.