🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[boltz]

Solo is officialy back with 9Pandas. The 322 god himself simply won't quit haha and last time he said that he will be a coach and no longer wants to play but look how that turned out in the end.. . For those who don't know Solo is the infamous guy who bet against his team to lose with a stake of 322$ and the game got inspected by Valve back then but short story that's why we see twitch chat spamming "322" during a fight

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[Oilacris]

Solo is officialy back with 9Pandas. The 322 god himself simply won't quit haha and last time he said that he will be a coach and no longer wants to play but look how that turned out in the end.. . For those who don't know Solo is the infamous guy who bet against his team to lose with a stake of 322$ and the game got inspected by Valve back then but short story that's why we see twitch chat spamming "322" during a fight

Yes, this is where "322" do start because of that incident on which even up to now whenever we do see tournaments neither majors or even TI and the actions made out
or by the team looks like throwing then this is the word that would really be spammed out on the chatbox. 

Speaking about going back in dota scene then there's no way that we could be able to concluded or tell that they wouldnt really be going back.
Just like Ceb?. Even there are rumors that "Ame" would be going back too. So there's always a possibility of comeback not only just on the game. hehe

[boyptc]

Solo is officialy back with 9Pandas. The 322 god himself simply won't quit haha and last time he said that he will be a coach and no longer wants to play but look how that turned out in the end.. . For those who don't know Solo is the infamous guy who bet against his team to lose with a stake of 322$ and the game got inspected by Valve back then but short story that's why we see twitch chat spamming "322" during a fight

I've known Solo and he was with ramzes for a long time. So for 9Pandas, any known reasons why Miero is out of the roster? He's a good offlaner but why he's out?

Also, there's a rumor that has been posted in weiboo in Chinese that faith_bian is likely to come back and get out of retirement.

I haven't seen any faith_bian hater and that's why this rumor has blown out the chinese community which was posted by his wife.

--> https://escorenews.com/en/dota-2/news/53185-faith-bian-s-wife-confirms-he-thinks-about-coming-back-from-retirement-but-later-deletes-the-post

[passwordnow]

Speaking about going back in dota scene then there's no way that we could be able to concluded or tell that they wouldnt really be going back.
Just like Ceb?. Even there are rumors that "Ame" would be going back too. So there's always a possibility of comeback not only just on the game. hehe

I've read that rumors that Ame is about to comeback and I think this is going to be a common thing now in the dota 2 community. Whenever someone says about their retirement, expect that it's just like a temporary rest for them and they're going to comeback for sure. Because they'll miss a lot of actions, tournaments and of course the prizes from it.

This is their lives and livelihood and any opportunity that has come to them will be missed. They've got contracts, sponsorships, etc. and more and their talents are being appreciated and that's why they're likely to come back. And as you've mentioned Ceb, he has said it twice I guess and look, he's still going to play with OG and I think that's fine.

He's doing the right transition that the oldies should go into a position 5 where they can just command and think of the plays focusing about the strategies in game while the core players, positions 1,2 and 3 will just have to focus on their goals and roles for the teams every match. Who are still those players that have said their retirement? I've seen many of them that have transitioned into casting and streaming. But the most recent one, I think it's just Ame and faith_bian.

[Mauser]

This weekend we can watch the Blast Premier Fall 2023 tournaments semi and grand finals. NaVi is already out after losing 2-1 against complexity, I thought they would go deeper in the tournament. In the two semi finals today Vitality is going to play against Cloud9. Vitality has been really strong this year, but so far I haven't seen them play many CS2 matches and I think they have some strong strategies ready for the games. Cloud9 has played more matches in CS2 as they have been part of already quite a few tournaments, but player wise I think Vitality is much stronger. I am going with Vitality to reach the finals tomorrow. In the second match will be FaZe vs Complexity, with FaZe being the clear favourite here. The two teams played in Sydney against each other and FaZe won 2-1. For me they are the strongest CS2 team right now and I am putting my money on them to reach the finals as well. Tomorrow we will likely see Vitality vs FaZ in the grand final, where FaZe is going to win in my opinion.

[execijutiere]

Eternal Fire seems to have adapted to CS2, though not fully. With the performances in the recent tournaments, we can say that the team is getting used to the new game or will be fully acclimatized in the near future. The fact that Xantares' performance hasn't changed is important for the team's performance, and the fact that Wicadia, the young star of the team, is improving day by day is another positive factor for the team. At the moment they are fighting well as a team, but the fact that woxic is far from his old performance makes the team awp diff.

[boyptc]

Is anyone of you have an idea on how the new team from Japan, Reject May plays? I have seen them in some posts and I have no idea about this team for Dota 2 that is based in Japan.

It is the first time hearing this team name from the Japan. And the players that they have, the roster itself are unknown names and never heard of them.

Anyone who is familiar with them?

[boltz]

Lots of CS2 finals today with winners like Imperial SB , Monte and the most important one Vitality who managed to defeat the "gods" Faze clan that dominated the entire year of both CS:GO but also the new CS2 but today Vitality played way better and a quick 2-0 from them with a fashionable and dominating victory that kinda puts them Nr1 global team in Counter-Strike.

There are also rumors that Faze will lose a couple of players and Twitszz most likely will be one of them and this is normal because Faze achieved everything that you can achieve at the highest level of pro cs. 

[inthelongrun]

Is anyone of you have an idea on how the new team from Japan, Reject May plays? I have seen them in some posts and I have no idea about this team for Dota 2 that is based in Japan.

It is the first time hearing this team name from the Japan. And the players that they have, the roster itself are unknown names and never heard of them.

Anyone who is familiar with them?

I also heard about this team a few days ago. They're all new to me as well. But Japan is pretty sure a country with a lot of gamers including DOTA 2. In the past, I remember some Japanese teams participated in lesser events. Maybe their teams are not just good enough to make it into Division 1. I heard Sony is one of its main sponsors so it should be good financially. But they have to prove it and make it into the bigger competitions otherwise Reject will just withdraw from the DOTA 2 scene just like the other big e-sports teams in the past who failed to win significant matches.

[pinggoki]

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It's too early to assume things and I think it is going to be another wild ride for them for these upcoming tournaments.

I don't know but I feel like it's going to be good for them but then again, more updates will come in the next year and those might make them create new strategies or maybe even worse, they might be eliminated as they've been eliminated in 2022 and like how Tundra was eliminated early in the 2023 tournament. Hopefully as solid and no changes is foreseeable for Team Spirit, I hope that they're going to make another appearance in the International 2024 and hopefully snag the Aegis again but then as you've said, there's a lot of things that can happen.

[sompitonov]

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It's too early to assume things and I think it is going to be another wild ride for them for these upcoming tournaments.

I don't know but I feel like it's going to be good for them but then again, more updates will come in the next year and those might make them create new strategies or maybe even worse, they might be eliminated as they've been eliminated in 2022 and like how Tundra was eliminated early in the 2023 tournament. Hopefully as solid and no changes is foreseeable for Team Spirit, I hope that they're going to make another appearance in the International 2024 and hopefully snag the Aegis again but then as you've said, there's a lot of things that can happen.

I would also like to see Team Spirit at International 2024, but I wouldn’t want them to win, especially if it’s 3-0. Of course, raising the Aegis above team for the 3rd time would be legendary and it’s hard to believe that it will ever be done. But I like it when there is a constant struggle and there is no clear favorite, when the games take place in a fierce struggle, as was the case with OG - LGD and TS - LGD.

I can say the same example about CS: Team Vitality interrupted FaZe Clan’s win streak of 18 wins in a row. karrigan is of course a legend and I don’t want to say anything bad, but this is too much. I wonder what kind of odds they gave for this match.

[sunsilk]

Guys, have you heard the news about the Azure Ray? Three of its members have already left the team. Somnus, fy and chalice. These three were once have built the strong LGD line up and I think that with the rumors that ame going back to the pro scene is related to this.

For those that don't know what I am saying, this is for Dota 2 folks.

Who else is believing here that we're going to see the reunion of Somnus, fy, chalice and Ame? I think that they should also include xnova for the new team that they're building but with the rumors, it was said to be xinq.

[boyptc]

Is anyone of you have an idea on how the new team from Japan, Reject May plays? I have seen them in some posts and I have no idea about this team for Dota 2 that is based in Japan.

It is the first time hearing this team name from the Japan. And the players that they have, the roster itself are unknown names and never heard of them.

Anyone who is familiar with them?

I also heard about this team a few days ago. They're all new to me as well. But Japan is pretty sure a country with a lot of gamers including DOTA 2. In the past, I remember some Japanese teams participated in lesser events. Maybe their teams are not just good enough to make it into Division 1. I heard Sony is one of its main sponsors so it should be good financially. But they have to prove it and make it into the bigger competitions otherwise Reject will just withdraw from the DOTA 2 scene just like the other big e-sports teams in the past who failed to win significant matches.

I just hope that many Japanese will also get into Dota 2. I've got a friend that's base there but just a casual dota 2 player and in no way gonna reach the pro scene. But what I am saying that there are players there but not that much wide of range.

And for this team, if Sony is one of their sponsors. I guess that many pro players would like to even touch Japan team or any mena team. These regions seems to be financially well if it's about salaries and stuff.

But of course, the competition for now is in WEU, EEU and CN.

It's too early to assume things and I think it is going to be another wild ride for them for these upcoming tournaments.

I don't know but I feel like it's going to be good for them but then again, more updates will come in the next year and those might make them create new strategies or maybe even worse, they might be eliminated as they've been eliminated in 2022 and like how Tundra was eliminated early in the 2023 tournament. Hopefully as solid and no changes is foreseeable for Team Spirit, I hope that they're going to make another appearance in the International 2024 and hopefully snag the Aegis again but then as you've said, there's a lot of things that can happen.

Yup, I'm wishing for that as well and who knows if they'll make a threepeat.

[sompitonov]

Guys, have you heard the news about the Azure Ray? Three of its members have already left the team. Somnus, fy and chalice. These three were once have built the strong LGD line up and I think that with the rumors that ame going back to the pro scene is related to this.

For those that don't know what I am saying, this is for Dota 2 folks.

Who else is believing here that we're going to see the reunion of Somnus, fy, chalice and Ame? I think that they should also include xnova for the new team that they're building but with the rumors, it was said to be xinq.

Yes, we heard, it was interesting to watch this reunion. They're clearly up to something) It's strange that they did this when there was not much time left for the start of the tournament.

Now there are 2 players left in Azure Ray, finding 3 more could be a big problem.

Among other things, Korb3n said that he was waiting for the official announcement from ESL about the disqualification of Azure Ray because 3 substitutions are not allowed by the rules. It is unknown how the ESL leadership will react to this, but I think that Korb3n is right and it will happen as he said.

[sunsilk]

Guys, have you heard the news about the Azure Ray? Three of its members have already left the team. Somnus, fy and chalice. These three were once have built the strong LGD line up and I think that with the rumors that ame going back to the pro scene is related to this.

For those that don't know what I am saying, this is for Dota 2 folks.

Who else is believing here that we're going to see the reunion of Somnus, fy, chalice and Ame? I think that they should also include xnova for the new team that they're building but with the rumors, it was said to be xinq.

Yes, we heard, it was interesting to watch this reunion. They're clearly up to something) It's strange that they did this when there was not much time left for the start of the tournament.

Now there are 2 players left in Azure Ray, finding 3 more could be a big problem.

Among other things, Korb3n said that he was waiting for the official announcement from ESL about the disqualification of Azure Ray because 3 substitutions are not allowed by the rules. It is unknown how the ESL leadership will react to this, but I think that Korb3n is right and it will happen as he said.

I guess that makes sense if Azure Ray is part of the invited teams and they're going to play with 2 original players + stand-ins. And as for the rumor that I have heard.

It is not XinQ that's going to be with the 3 players that left AR but it is him that's going to be part of the new roster of the Azure Ray.

Check their new line up folks.

Active Squad
Lou      
Xm
Xxs
XinQ   
天命   

[sompitonov]

Guys, have you heard the news about the Azure Ray? Three of its members have already left the team. Somnus, fy and chalice. These three were once have built the strong LGD line up and I think that with the rumors that ame going back to the pro scene is related to this.

For those that don't know what I am saying, this is for Dota 2 folks.

Who else is believing here that we're going to see the reunion of Somnus, fy, chalice and Ame? I think that they should also include xnova for the new team that they're building but with the rumors, it was said to be xinq.

Yes, we heard, it was interesting to watch this reunion. They're clearly up to something) It's strange that they did this when there was not much time left for the start of the tournament.

Now there are 2 players left in Azure Ray, finding 3 more could be a big problem.

Among other things, Korb3n said that he was waiting for the official announcement from ESL about the disqualification of Azure Ray because 3 substitutions are not allowed by the rules. It is unknown how the ESL leadership will react to this, but I think that Korb3n is right and it will happen as he said.

I guess that makes sense if Azure Ray is part of the invited teams and they're going to play with 2 original players + stand-ins. And as for the rumor that I have heard.

It is not XinQ that's going to be with the 3 players that left AR but it is him that's going to be part of the new roster of the Azure Ray.

Check their new line up folks.

Active Squad
Lou      
Xm
Xxs
XinQ   
天命   

This is the rapid information appeared very quickly that I did not expect. Apparently this was planned for a long time in Azure Ray because they were completely ready for this. At the moment they have not been removed from the ESL One Kuala Lumpur 2023 and something tells me that with a high degree of probability they will play on it.

I would be very curious to see how they will show their game there, but on the other hand, their participation is quite controversial, as Korb3n said. I'll laugh if they win it, LOL. What will he say in this case?)

[sunsilk]

~snip~

This is the rapid information appeared very quickly that I did not expect. Apparently this was planned for a long time in Azure Ray because they were completely ready for this. At the moment they have not been removed from the ESL One Kuala Lumpur 2023 and something tells me that with a high degree of probability they will play on it.

I wasn't also expecting that the Azure Ray's roster will be that complete. I think in terms of these roster changes, they're all ready with the replacements before they even announce the player's departure.

And for their ESL participation, they'll play for it and if that's fine for the management with 3 replaced players as final roster, then it will do.

I would be very curious to see how they will show their game there, but on the other hand, their participation is quite controversial, as Korb3n said. I'll laugh if they win it, LOL. What will he say in this case?)

We will see, he's influential though but it's still up to the ESL's management decision.

[inthelongrun]

Is anyone of you have an idea on how the new team from Japan, Reject May plays? I have seen them in some posts and I have no idea about this team for Dota 2 that is based in Japan.

It is the first time hearing this team name from the Japan. And the players that they have, the roster itself are unknown names and never heard of them.

Anyone who is familiar with them?

I also heard about this team a few days ago. They're all new to me as well. But Japan is pretty sure a country with a lot of gamers including DOTA 2. In the past, I remember some Japanese teams participated in lesser events. Maybe their teams are not just good enough to make it into Division 1. I heard Sony is one of its main sponsors so it should be good financially. But they have to prove it and make it into the bigger competitions otherwise Reject will just withdraw from the DOTA 2 scene just like the other big e-sports teams in the past who failed to win significant matches.

I just hope that many Japanese will also get into Dota 2. I've got a friend that's base there but just a casual dota 2 player and in no way gonna reach the pro scene. But what I am saying that there are players there but not that much wide of range.

And for this team, if Sony is one of their sponsors. I guess that many pro players would like to even touch Japan team or any mena team. These regions seems to be financially well if it's about salaries and stuff.

But of course, the competition for now is in WEU, EEU and CN.

Japan is rich itself and is the 3rd biggest economy in the world so a Japanese team participating in big DOTA 2 events can somehow promote the game. I'm curious about which region are they participating in. Maybe in the SEA? I find it awkward if they belong in the Chinese region since both are not on good terms.

Meanwhile, there are rumors circulating online that Riyadh Masters next season could be worth $45 million. That would make it the biggest prize pool not just in DOTA 2 but in the whole e-sport history. Next year is also the targeted Esports World Cup by Saudi Arabia as part of its plan to become the world's esports hub.

[boyptc]

I just hope that many Japanese will also get into Dota 2. I've got a friend that's base there but just a casual dota 2 player and in no way gonna reach the pro scene. But what I am saying that there are players there but not that much wide of range.

And for this team, if Sony is one of their sponsors. I guess that many pro players would like to even touch Japan team or any mena team. These regions seems to be financially well if it's about salaries and stuff.

But of course, the competition for now is in WEU, EEU and CN.

Japan is rich itself and is the 3rd biggest economy in the world so a Japanese team participating in big DOTA 2 events can somehow promote the game. I'm curious about which region are they participating in. Maybe in the SEA? I find it awkward if they belong in the Chinese region since both are not on good terms.

Likely that they're going to be in the SEA. China's region is for themselves alone but everyone is free to join there if they feel that they'd go there. But IMHO, if they're a starting them, I'd avoid the Chinese region, it's a strong region for a new team.

They still lack of experience and even if they've got high mmrs and they are good individually. Experience beats those numbers for real.

Well, I'm just going to take a look at this team and we will see them with the APAC- Predator league 2024.

[Distraction]

Eternal Fire seems to have adapted to CS2, though not fully. With the performances in the recent tournaments, we can say that the team is getting used to the new game or will be fully acclimatized in the near future. The fact that Xantares' performance hasn't changed is important for the team's performance, and the fact that Wicadia, the young star of the team, is improving day by day is another positive factor for the team. At the moment they are fighting well as a team, but the fact that woxic is far from his old performance makes the team awp diff.

Totally agree with what you said about Eternal Fire. They have been quite impressive lately. First a record of finishing 2nd in the PARI Please tournament and right after that another same finish in ESL Challenger Jönköping.    They could have even defeated Monte in the finale too but that was such a difficult matchup for them. They still did good work on Vertigo and Anubis though.

Monte are one of the powerful teams lately. They have made good progress in the rankings. But still these achievements was helpful for Eternal Fire to reach 11th place in HLTV rankings.  

woxic is on fire indeed. I watched some of his performances in this ESL Challenger tournament and got really excited.