🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[sompitonov]

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This is the rapid information appeared very quickly that I did not expect. Apparently this was planned for a long time in Azure Ray because they were completely ready for this. At the moment they have not been removed from the ESL One Kuala Lumpur 2023 and something tells me that with a high degree of probability they will play on it.

I wasn't also expecting that the Azure Ray's roster will be that complete. I think in terms of these roster changes, they're all ready with the replacements before they even announce the player's departure.

And for their ESL participation, they'll play for it and if that's fine for the management with 3 replaced players as final roster, then it will do.

I would be very curious to see how they will show their game there, but on the other hand, their participation is quite controversial, as Korb3n said. I'll laugh if they win it, LOL. What will he say in this case?)

We will see, he's influential though but it's still up to the ESL's management decision.

We can see that Azure Ray are already present in group A, this means that the management didn't care about Korb3n's words and thereby showed who is in charge here. I even admit that it was done to spite him))

I will watch their matches with great curiosity and interest, especially the matches against Gladiators, BetBoom that I am looking forward to the most. I also think that they will still make it to the playoffs, and I won’t guess further, we’ll take it step by step.

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[boyptc]

Less than two weeks from now, we're about to see the actions again with great teams on ESL Kuala Lumpur. And AFAIK, ESL have already released their schedules for their other events next year.

Anyway going with the ESL KL. --> https://liquipedia.net/dota2/ESL_One/Kuala_Lumpur/2023

These are the teams that are going to play there for someone's reference.

And currently, there's the Pinnacle's 25th year anniversary tournament and it is now on the playoffs.

--> https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Pinnacle_25_Year_Anniversary_Show

Also, congratulations to Dendi's team - B8 for winning the EPL Season 14. Yes, prize isn't that much for $5k for the grand prize winner but this title is their first title as a team.

[passwordnow]

I can't wait for the ESL Kuala Lumpur, despite that there have been other side tournaments that I can watch. I have never watched any of them because most of these tournaments are tier 2 tournaments. Although there are teams that are good to scout from that tier and they can be one of the strong teams in the near future.

I have seen that there's also the Shanghai Masters, I thought that there's a lot of teams participating on this tournament but upon looking at the details I guess that this is the first time to see a Chinese tournament and named 'masters' for this tournament only has got 4 participating teams.

This tournament is going to start in less than 24 hours from now on and I don't understand why there's a tournament like this and named as if it's a major tournament but only few teams that are invited on this one. IG is part of it and I think that they're going to be the ones who's gonna win on this tournament if they become serious and they are going to have the debut of their new roster.

[sunsilk]

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We can see that Azure Ray are already present in group A, this means that the management didn't care about Korb3n's words and thereby showed who is in charge here. I even admit that it was done to spite him))

Yeah, it is visible that Azure Ray is on the Group A already and they received no warning about being disqualified due to having 3 replacement of their players whether they are stand-ins or not.

And if Korb3n is going to push this disqualification, he may have been heard but it's still up to ESL's decision.

I will watch their matches with great curiosity and interest, especially the matches against Gladiators, BetBoom that I am looking forward to the most. I also think that they will still make it to the playoffs, and I won’t guess further, we’ll take it step by step.

I'm still expecting a lot from them since the roster is still promising and composed of good players.

Did you guys heard or read the rumors about Wawitas Sagazes going to be sign under Boom Esports?

[sompitonov]

I can't wait for the ESL Kuala Lumpur, despite that there have been other side tournaments that I can watch. I have never watched any of them because most of these tournaments are tier 2 tournaments. Although there are teams that are good to scout from that tier and they can be one of the strong teams in the near future.

I have seen that there's also the Shanghai Masters, I thought that there's a lot of teams participating on this tournament but upon looking at the details I guess that this is the first time to see a Chinese tournament and named 'masters' for this tournament only has got 4 participating teams.

This tournament is going to start in less than 24 hours from now on and I don't understand why there's a tournament like this and named as if it's a major tournament but only few teams that are invited on this one. IG is part of it and I think that they're going to be the ones who's gonna win on this tournament if they become serious and they are going to have the debut of their new roster.

In general, I prefer to play with friends than watch. TI have priority for me, I watch other tournaments extremely rarely, but ESL Kuala Lumpur I will definitely watch a couple of games, but I will choose only the most interesting ones. And I won’t watch Shanghai Masters, all I can do is wish you a pleasant viewing 

I'm still expecting a lot from them since the roster is still promising and composed of good players.

Did you guys heard or read the rumors about Wawitas Sagazes going to be sign under Boom Esports?

No, I haven’t heard any news about this yet, I still prefer to find out everything after the fact and not worry about rumors.

[sunsilk]

I'm still expecting a lot from them since the roster is still promising and composed of good players.

Did you guys heard or read the rumors about Wawitas Sagazes going to be sign under Boom Esports?

No, I haven’t heard any news about this yet, I still prefer to find out everything after the fact and not worry about rumors.

It's a rumor prior to the ESL One Kuala Lumpur because they are the South American team that has been qualified and they want to replace the team name for being the sponsor of it.

But they need to replace one player and that's Lumiere and they want to let Pakasz in to the roster. Well, it seems that the page on the roster haven't changed any single thing.

And that completely remains as a rumor because of that.

[STT]

Malaysia being the host is good to see, that never happens in CS and we need more variety imo.

CS2 fully more erratic results then any prior version is something one major commentator just came out and said the obvious its a game thats going to be all over the place until next Spring imo.  From my own play and bugs still existing in the game that alter pro plays its too much variance to be sure of who will win or find a path in each game each map to their advantage.  All the pro players are extremely close to begin with, upset the balance and anyone can win in theory.   
    However saying that I'll go with Attax to win vs Entropiq on Monday, its the older team by far.   Entropiq are formed in July with most pro players taking a break over summer for some time, add in a new game, new feel and dynamics I think the teamplay and experience lends a large enough advantage to Attax to come through with a win.   

[Hirose UK]

It's a rumor prior to the ESL One Kuala Lumpur because they are the South American team that has been qualified and they want to replace the team name for being the sponsor of it.

Is changing the name necessary and important to do because from several rumors circulating there is no authentic clarity regarding changing the name of the South American team.
Moreover, they have been confirmed to have passed and are just waiting for the time to take part in the competition which will start on December 11.
This is rumor that has made some people wonder about the reason for this change.
But what is written is the name BOOM Esports South America.

But they need to replace one player and that's Lumiere and they want to let Pakasz in to the roster. Well, it seems that the page on the roster haven't changed any single thing.

And that completely remains as a rumor because of that.

Isn't Lumiere 23 year old young man from Peru who is quite good player and he always does good job to bring Wawitas Sagazes every victory and success in qualifying for get away ESL One Kuala Lumpur.
If there is no change then that is good thing, but if change does occur it will not provide maximum results.

[boltz]

Funny how Virtus Pro went from being favorites at Pinnacle Cup to be eliminated by Team Tickles just 1 day after they mocked them ... .

Meanwhile , the new Tundra line-up have just been revealed a few minutes ago : Yuma , Topson , Miero  , 9Class , Xakoda. Now , personally I didn't hear until now about 9Class or Xakoda ...and that's why I don't have full faith in this new Tundra team. I also think it's because of Topson the team left and decided to part ways...
 

[sunsilk]

It's a rumor prior to the ESL One Kuala Lumpur because they are the South American team that has been qualified and they want to replace the team name for being the sponsor of it.

Is changing the name necessary and important to do because from several rumors circulating there is no authentic clarity regarding changing the name of the South American team.
Moreover, they have been confirmed to have passed and are just waiting for the time to take part in the competition which will start on December 11.
This is rumor that has made some people wonder about the reason for this change.
But what is written is the name BOOM Esports South America.

It's about the sponsorship and it's allowed by the organizers as long as the original roster that has taken the slot are going to play. It's just the name of the sponsor that's going to be replaced and I've seen that happened many times in respected tournaments.

As far as I can see, rumors are still remaining to rumors and there's no movement at all but let's see before next week if there are changes.

But they need to replace one player and that's Lumiere and they want to let Pakasz in to the roster. Well, it seems that the page on the roster haven't changed any single thing.

And that completely remains as a rumor because of that.

Isn't Lumiere 23 year old young man from Peru who is quite good player and he always does good job to bring Wawitas Sagazes every victory and success in qualifying for get away ESL One Kuala Lumpur.
If there is no change then that is good thing, but if change does occur it will not provide maximum results.

Based on the info, yes you're right that's him. There are talented players in the South America but because most of us are not from there, we don't notice the good ones until they step on the international tournaments.

[passwordnow]

I can't wait for the ESL Kuala Lumpur, despite that there have been other side tournaments that I can watch. I have never watched any of them because most of these tournaments are tier 2 tournaments. Although there are teams that are good to scout from that tier and they can be one of the strong teams in the near future.

I have seen that there's also the Shanghai Masters, I thought that there's a lot of teams participating on this tournament but upon looking at the details I guess that this is the first time to see a Chinese tournament and named 'masters' for this tournament only has got 4 participating teams.

This tournament is going to start in less than 24 hours from now on and I don't understand why there's a tournament like this and named as if it's a major tournament but only few teams that are invited on this one. IG is part of it and I think that they're going to be the ones who's gonna win on this tournament if they become serious and they are going to have the debut of their new roster.

In general, I prefer to play with friends than watch. TI have priority for me, I watch other tournaments extremely rarely, but ESL Kuala Lumpur I will definitely watch a couple of games, but I will choose only the most interesting ones.

Go and watch it with your friends, it's gonna be in a week so that's a thrilling experience and entertainment again from the best teams in the region that have qualified. Well, we're the same that when I think some matches aren't interesting for me, I wouldn't even think twice to watch it and just leave it there.

There are other teams that are interesting to watch and we've got the same terms and also we can't watch all of them at the same time because most of the matches during the early stage are being played on at the same time.

And I won’t watch Shanghai Masters, all I can do is wish you a pleasant viewing 

Anyway, Shanghai Masters is done and the champion is Invictus Gaming just like what I've said.

[Beparanf]

Meanwhile , the new Tundra line-up have just been revealed a few minutes ago : Yuma , Topson , Miero  , 9Class , Xakoda. Now , personally I didn't hear until now about 9Class or Xakoda ...and that's why I don't have full faith in this new Tundra team. I also think it's because of Topson the team left and decided to part ways...

What happened to previous roster of Team Tundra? They seems pretty solid and I’m not expecting to reshuffle their roster completely while they have a good result on many major tournaments.

I remember watching Xakoda many times on EEU region. I do some background check and he is a former mate of Yuma when they are on lower division team. Just like BZM and ATF being discovered by OG, I guess they have potential to excel too.

[Mauser]

The next tournament in CS2 is starting this week with BetBoom Dache 2023 in Dubai with some strong CS teams again. I am really hyped to see Furia again after their big win at the Elisa Masters Espoo 2023. It's great to have FalleN back on the international stage with all his experience. The first match today will be GamerLegion vs Cloud9, where Cloud9 should have no issues of winning the game, they are clearly the stronger team. The second match will be MIBR vs BetBoom. The second Brazilian team is not as strong as Furia, but should have good chances of winning against BetBoom. The two teams played against each other last month and MIBR won 2-0.  Tomorrow Astralis is playing against Virtus.pro, which could be going either way. The two teams are equal in strength and it feels a bit like a coin flip to me, I will skip betting on that match. The last match tomorrow is going to be Furia vs Spirit, where I am rooting for Furia to win. Spirit is a strong team that won a lot of there last matches and they are the favourite, but I hope the Brazilian magic is going to win.

[passwordnow]

Before the ESL KL next week, we've got some actions happening right now in the SEA so this is the EPL World Series SEA version. There are only two teams that are participating on this tournament but still, some tier 2 actions that we're going to see. And currently, it's now on the playoffs with the next bracket and some teams were already eliminated. If someone wants to follow it, you can go ahead[1] and check the matches because this is until December 8, 2023 for the grand finals.

[1] EPL World Series: Southeast Asia Season 1

This is just like us to have some entertainment before the main event next week and I think the same goes for some EU actions, some little tournaments are there around and we may see some new bloods.

[arallmuus]

What happened to previous roster of Team Tundra? They seems pretty solid and I’m not expecting to reshuffle their roster completely while they have a good result on many major tournaments.

They went from TI winner to a team that was struggling to get to top 2 so there was no reason for them not to disband the team. Some of the roster ended up staying together like Skiter and Sneyking that are currently playing for Team Falcons that should be based on MENA region. Im not sure if they will ever move from this region but for now its on MENA region

This is just like us to have some entertainment before the main event next week and I think the same goes for some EU actions, some little tournaments are there around and we may see some new bloods.

Not really a fan of SEA region but oh well atleast its better than nothing

[dothebeats]

Meanwhile , the new Tundra line-up have just been revealed a few minutes ago : Yuma , Topson , Miero  , 9Class , Xakoda. Now , personally I didn't hear until now about 9Class or Xakoda ...and that's why I don't have full faith in this new Tundra team. I also think it's because of Topson the team left and decided to part ways...

What happened to previous roster of Team Tundra? They seems pretty solid and I’m not expecting to reshuffle their roster completely while they have a good result on many major tournaments.

I remember watching Xakoda many times on EEU region. I do some background check and he is a former mate of Yuma when they are on lower division team. Just like BZM and ATF being discovered by OG, I guess they have potential to excel too.

Tundra reorganizing this heavily either means that they are trying to hone new talents with the help of Topson and Xakoda, or they're really just trying to make it work with a tight budget. Whatever it is, hopefully it works for them. Topson can either go towards an offlane position, giving a chance towards the new players whom may be comfortable playing with core positions adding confidence to their team compositions.

[Balmain]

Eternal Fire seems to have adapted to CS2, though not fully. With the performances in the recent tournaments, we can say that the team is getting used to the new game or will be fully acclimatized in the near future. The fact that Xantares' performance hasn't changed is important for the team's performance, and the fact that Wicadia, the young star of the team, is improving day by day is another positive factor for the team. At the moment they are fighting well as a team, but the fact that woxic is far from his old performance makes the team awp diff.

Totally agree with what you said about Eternal Fire. They have been quite impressive lately. First a record of finishing 2nd in the PARI Please tournament and right after that another same finish in ESL Challenger Jönköping.    They could have even defeated Monte in the finale too but that was such a difficult matchup for them. They still did good work on Vertigo and Anubis though.

Monte are one of the powerful teams lately. They have made good progress in the rankings. But still these achievements was helpful for Eternal Fire to reach 11th place in HLTV rankings.  

woxic is on fire indeed. I watched some of his performances in this ESL Challenger tournament and got really excited.

Eternal Fire rose to 11th place and they will now move to Hungary as their base for tournament matches so they will not have any more ping problems. If the ping problem is eliminated, EF can go much further in the rankings. In my opinion, CS2 was better in terms of Eternal Fire. As a result, Eternal Fire achieved the best ranking in CS2. There were times when EF had a chance to beat Monte, but it was not the time yet and it was still a good final match.

[sompitonov]

I can't wait for the ESL Kuala Lumpur, despite that there have been other side tournaments that I can watch. I have never watched any of them because most of these tournaments are tier 2 tournaments. Although there are teams that are good to scout from that tier and they can be one of the strong teams in the near future.

I have seen that there's also the Shanghai Masters, I thought that there's a lot of teams participating on this tournament but upon looking at the details I guess that this is the first time to see a Chinese tournament and named 'masters' for this tournament only has got 4 participating teams.

This tournament is going to start in less than 24 hours from now on and I don't understand why there's a tournament like this and named as if it's a major tournament but only few teams that are invited on this one. IG is part of it and I think that they're going to be the ones who's gonna win on this tournament if they become serious and they are going to have the debut of their new roster.

In general, I prefer to play with friends than watch. TI have priority for me, I watch other tournaments extremely rarely, but ESL Kuala Lumpur I will definitely watch a couple of games, but I will choose only the most interesting ones.

Go and watch it with your friends, it's gonna be in a week so that's a thrilling experience and entertainment again from the best teams in the region that have qualified. Well, we're the same that when I think some matches aren't interesting for me, I wouldn't even think twice to watch it and just leave it there.

There are other teams that are interesting to watch and we've got the same terms and also we can't watch all of them at the same time because most of the matches during the early stage are being played on at the same time.

And I won’t watch Shanghai Masters, all I can do is wish you a pleasant viewing 

Anyway, Shanghai Masters is done and the champion is Invictus Gaming just like what I've said.

ok thanks, I'll think about it, sounds really cool. I will probably choose the best days from the ESL tournament with the most exciting confrontations between certain teams. Still, there should be more such wonderful moments in life.

Did you see that TSM abandoned their tag? They returned to the name Undying. In general, when I saw TSM, every time I remembered their sponsorship from the FTX crypto exchange. This is ingrained in my memory due to the fact that I lost some of my funds there(

Tundra reorganizing this heavily either means that they are trying to hone new talents with the help of Topson and Xakoda, or they're really just trying to make it work with a tight budget. Whatever it is, hopefully it works for them. Topson can either go towards an offlane position, giving a chance towards the new players whom may be comfortable playing with core positions adding confidence to their team compositions.

Maybe they should look at how Korb3n assembled Team Spirit when they were little known (before winning TI first time) and try to do something similar. Younger players are hard to find and even harder to team up with. At this stage, various problems can arise, even because of one player, the whole team can be destroyed. It's like searching for gold in a gold mine. You may achieve nothing and waste a lot of time and effort. In any case, I would like to see Tundra in a stronger lineup.

[passwordnow]

This is just like us to have some entertainment before the main event next week and I think the same goes for some EU actions, some little tournaments are there around and we may see some new bloods.

Not really a fan of SEA region but oh well atleast its better than nothing

IMHO, SEA Teams are improving. It's no question that they've been the weakest region but this time, I think that there are a lot of good teams assembled on this region but let's still see.

ok thanks, I'll think about it, sounds really cool. I will probably choose the best days from the ESL tournament with the most exciting confrontations between certain teams. Still, there should be more such wonderful moments in life.

Good luck with that, we're approaching to the first phase of the tournament within less than a week now. That's really exciting to get into actions again and we'd see some improved teams and who knows if some crazy heroes will be used on this tournament and might be swarmed in the pubs.

Did you see that TSM abandoned their tag? They returned to the name Undying. In general, when I saw TSM, every time I remembered their sponsorship from the FTX crypto exchange. This is ingrained in my memory due to the fact that I lost some of my funds there(

I also remember that they've been sponsored by FTX but they don't know a thing about that. What these rosters and team management does is all about the sponsor money that's been placed on them.

[dothebeats]

Tundra reorganizing this heavily either means that they are trying to hone new talents with the help of Topson and Xakoda, or they're really just trying to make it work with a tight budget. Whatever it is, hopefully it works for them. Topson can either go towards an offlane position, giving a chance towards the new players whom may be comfortable playing with core positions adding confidence to their team compositions.

Maybe they should look at how Korb3n assembled Team Spirit when they were little known (before winning TI first time) and try to do something similar. Younger players are hard to find and even harder to team up with. At this stage, various problems can arise, even because of one player, the whole team can be destroyed. It's like searching for gold in a gold mine. You may achieve nothing and waste a lot of time and effort. In any case, I would like to see Tundra in a stronger lineup.

They probably have scouted these guys long enough to do such a decision. OG's former roster with ATF was basically nobodies until they started winning with the right guidance and the right directions from n0tail and those in the OG management. I feel that this may also be the direction that Tundra wants for the team, and hopefully they get successful at that. It's sad that most of the oldheads are leaving the scene, but the new bloods are still welcome to change the shape of the pro play very soon.