🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

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No doubt that Drachyo is good at farming but he's easily flamed during all of the 3 remaining games. Especially on the last game with that faceless void, there are a lot of errors he made and I won't even blame him for that. Look at the heroes of Azure Ray, all of them seem to be a counter to his hero. I think they're out drafted and the brilliant picks and strategy of Azure Ray really did well on this.

At least this time, we get to see a team that's able to beat GG and it's not just some wins but it's a reverse sweep. I can't imagine while watching it when GG was able on 2-0 against AR in the grand finals and in just a few snaps, it's 2-2. Well, great team plays done and momentum has been seen for the team of AR. Right picks also did well for them. Some few misplays and they're able to take that opportunity.

I also like the item choices of Centaur Warrunner on the last map but I'm not so sure if that's effective with Naga siren with the Eternal Shroud. I just don't see the essence of it but maybe the magic resistance did help since the heroes of GG were mostly magic damage and they have bare physical damage so it's a plus I guess.

Right hero, right itemization, outdrafting the enemy and taking advantage of slip moments. We've got another champion and how long have been seeing GG dominated this year and how long it has been since we see a chinese team that champed?

Leading on maps 2-0 and losing 2-3 in the end, I didn’t expect this. Something broke the GG on the 3rd map and they could not rise after that. They probably thought that the grand final was in their pocket, while Azure Ray gathered all the strength in themselves to show everything they were capable of.

Yes, Shiva on Centaur actually worked very well. This item has Veil of Discord which deals 15% more magic damage to all heroes hit by the wave.

I am not also expecting that because GG was too good when they've won the first 2 maps. But then, Azure Ray managed to come back and give them a reverse card that shall sweep them with the entire series. Those three remaining games have been a lot of chance for the GG but they just can't beat Azure Ray easily.

Those item choices were actually good and did helped them a lot. And that's why they deserve to be the champ for this ESL.

Before the start of the tournament I laughed that  Azure Ray could win the tournament and not be disqualified, and that’s what happened. Even N0tail said that the new patch played an incredible role in the success of Azure Ray.

Well, the change in the roster actually helped. Wherever is XinQ is going, it seems that the team is getting some buff. There's no doubt that most of us became impressed with how they've ended up the series because they were just so freaking good.

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[sompitonov]

No doubt that Drachyo is good at farming but he's easily flamed during all of the 3 remaining games. Especially on the last game with that faceless void, there are a lot of errors he made and I won't even blame him for that. Look at the heroes of Azure Ray, all of them seem to be a counter to his hero. I think they're out drafted and the brilliant picks and strategy of Azure Ray really did well on this.

At least this time, we get to see a team that's able to beat GG and it's not just some wins but it's a reverse sweep. I can't imagine while watching it when GG was able on 2-0 against AR in the grand finals and in just a few snaps, it's 2-2. Well, great team plays done and momentum has been seen for the team of AR. Right picks also did well for them. Some few misplays and they're able to take that opportunity.

I also like the item choices of Centaur Warrunner on the last map but I'm not so sure if that's effective with Naga siren with the Eternal Shroud. I just don't see the essence of it but maybe the magic resistance did help since the heroes of GG were mostly magic damage and they have bare physical damage so it's a plus I guess.

Right hero, right itemization, outdrafting the enemy and taking advantage of slip moments. We've got another champion and how long have been seeing GG dominated this year and how long it has been since we see a chinese team that champed?

Leading on maps 2-0 and losing 2-3 in the end, I didn’t expect this. Something broke the GG on the 3rd map and they could not rise after that. They probably thought that the grand final was in their pocket, while Azure Ray gathered all the strength in themselves to show everything they were capable of.

Yes, Shiva on Centaur actually worked very well. This item has Veil of Discord which deals 15% more magic damage to all heroes hit by the wave.

I am not also expecting that because GG was too good when they've won the first 2 maps. But then, Azure Ray managed to come back and give them a reverse card that shall sweep them with the entire series. Those three remaining games have been a lot of chance for the GG but they just can't beat Azure Ray easily.

Those item choices were actually good and did helped them a lot. And that's why they deserve to be the champ for this ESL.

Before the start of the tournament I laughed that  Azure Ray could win the tournament and not be disqualified, and that’s what happened. Even N0tail said that the new patch played an incredible role in the success of Azure Ray.

Well, the change in the roster actually helped. Wherever is XinQ is going, it seems that the team is getting some buff. There's no doubt that most of us became impressed with how they've ended up the series because they were just so freaking good.

I remembered another funny episode. Before the start of the grand final, in an interview dyrachyo suggested that his team would defeat Azure Ray with a score of 3:0. After which he fell face down into the dirt. He paid for disrespect for the opponent, because if a team reached the grand final, then they need to be respected and not allow themselves to make self-confident statements about them.

After the tournament, he called fools on Twitter those who write about him what I wrote above. It was as if he was “asked” to create excitement before the match and make it even more interesting for everyone to watch the grand final. I very much doubt this.

[passwordnow]

I remembered another funny episode. Before the start of the grand final, in an interview dyrachyo suggested that his team would defeat Azure Ray with a score of 3:0. After which he fell face down into the dirt. He paid for disrespect for the opponent, because if a team reached the grand final, then they need to be respected and not allow themselves to make self-confident statements about them.

He has found what he's looking for and that's well done for the Azure Ray. All of us are just waiting for a team to beat the strong GG and they are ending the year not being champs. No doubt that they're still one of the best teams in the world but they just fell with Azure Ray who have came back from the pit that they've been shovelled.

After the tournament, he called fools on Twitter those who write about him what I wrote above. It was as if he was “asked” to create excitement before the match and make it even more interesting for everyone to watch the grand final. I very much doubt this.

He's flamed? I didn't know about this but typically if that's a real thing, players like him are also losing their patience and composure. When they can't take it anymore, it's just best to show sponsormanship and I think going with his teammates Quinn. Many of his videos shows that he's a toxic pub gamer but if it's about professional games, he's just too professional for it.

[arallmuus]

All of us are just waiting for a team to beat the strong GG and they are ending the year not being champs.

Yeah but not to the extend that they beat Azure Ray 2-0 before the final then they dominate the first 2 maps but after that Azure Ray managed to sweep the rest of the maps. Thats pretty brutal and unexpected but lets be honest, probably only like a handful of people that actually believe Azure Ray will be winning the game after losing the first 2 maps. Its just insane.

I watched the the first 3 maps then thought that GG will win on the 4th map and I had things to do so I didnt watch the rest of the game then when I get back and check liquipedia, I was very surprised to see that Azure Ray's player list pop up as the winner

[inthelongrun]

What a turn of events. DOTA 2's ESL Kuala Lumpur had the same scenario with Mobile Legends' M5 World Championships and they're also on the same dates. The champions got zeroed in the upper bracket finals but then won the lower bracket finals and went on to win the tournament. The only difference is the ML world champions were able to seal the last and final map after 2 successive comebacks from their opponents, something GG failed to do.

Lost my bet on GG but my ML bet was successful making it still a profitable day. I am starting to play Mobile Legends again since I can no longer afford the longer playing time of DOTA 2.

[sompitonov]

I remembered another funny episode. Before the start of the grand final, in an interview dyrachyo suggested that his team would defeat Azure Ray with a score of 3:0. After which he fell face down into the dirt. He paid for disrespect for the opponent, because if a team reached the grand final, then they need to be respected and not allow themselves to make self-confident statements about them.

He has found what he's looking for and that's well done for the Azure Ray. All of us are just waiting for a team to beat the strong GG and they are ending the year not being champs. No doubt that they're still one of the best teams in the world but they just fell with Azure Ray who have came back from the pit that they've been shovelled.

After the tournament, he called fools on Twitter those who write about him what I wrote above. It was as if he was “asked” to create excitement before the match and make it even more interesting for everyone to watch the grand final. I very much doubt this.

He's flamed? I didn't know about this but typically if that's a real thing, players like him are also losing their patience and composure. When they can't take it anymore, it's just best to show sponsormanship and I think going with his teammates Quinn. Many of his videos shows that he's a toxic pub gamer but if it's about professional games, he's just too professional for it.

I think Azure will become even stronger, next year I hope to see their confrontation against TS.

The fact that he is a professional is obvious to us without a doubt. His team will continue to win and the defeat did not affect this in any way, while we see that in the end there is a team that disbanded its roster, unable to withstand the defeat in the tournament.

What a turn of events. DOTA 2's ESL Kuala Lumpur had the same scenario with Mobile Legends' M5 World Championships and they're also on the same dates. The champions got zeroed in the upper bracket finals but then won the lower bracket finals and went on to win the tournament. The only difference is the ML world champions were able to seal the last and final map after 2 successive comebacks from their opponents, something GG failed to do.

Lost my bet on GG but my ML bet was successful making it still a profitable day. I am starting to play Mobile Legends again since I can no longer afford the longer playing time of DOTA 2.

I congratulate you that in the end you turned out to be profitable. Maybe you will find time for Dota 2, because there is a lot of new things there now with a new patch, and tonight an update was released in which a lot of bugs were fixed and the game became better.

In general, it’s good that teams from the lower bracket can defeat those in the upper bracket, this adds great intrigue, unpredictability and sometimes entertainment to the games.

[boltz]

Do we actually now anything about the new format we will have in 2024 now that DPC is gone ? Because I'm really curious to see how much will valve get involved into this new format or they will even be involved at all... .

Also quite the rumors today as some players suggest that GG might disband after such a glorious year but personally , I think they will keep this formula for 2024 as well. 

[arallmuus]

Do we actually now anything about the new format we will have in 2024 now that DPC is gone ? Because I'm really curious to see how much will valve get involved into this new format or they will even be involved at all... .

They made the new EPT system so this is probably the new DPC. I think they stated in their previous statement before disbanding the DPC system that they want organizers to be more active in the next season so I think for now ESL is probably the only active organizers so we will be using EPT points for this season but there is a possibility that the other organizers could be making things like this as well

So instead of just TI as the final tournament for the season, we might be having multiple grand tournament at the end of the season depending on how many active organizers that is willing to sponsor

https://liquipedia.net/dota2/ESL_Pro_Tour

[passwordnow]

All of us are just waiting for a team to beat the strong GG and they are ending the year not being champs.

Yeah but not to the extend that they beat Azure Ray 2-0 before the final then they dominate the first 2 maps but after that Azure Ray managed to sweep the rest of the maps. Thats pretty brutal and unexpected but lets be honest, probably only like a handful of people that actually believe Azure Ray will be winning the game after losing the first 2 maps. Its just insane.

I watched the the first 3 maps then thought that GG will win on the 4th map and I had things to do so I didnt watch the rest of the game then when I get back and check liquipedia, I was very surprised to see that Azure Ray's player list pop up as the winner

Yeah, they've won first against Azure on the semi finals at the top bracket which made Azure Ray grinded through the lower bracket against Team Liquid. But Azure Ray did the impossible for taking those leads that they've got each game, well, everything did happened smoothly and that's so satisfying to see. Well take note that I am not a hater of GG, I just want to see some new teams emerge.

I think Azure will become even stronger, next year I hope to see their confrontation against TS.

They will, there's now a bigger expectation on them since they've became champions on this recent ESL One.

The fact that he is a professional is obvious to us without a doubt. His team will continue to win and the defeat did not affect this in any way, while we see that in the end there is a team that disbanded its roster, unable to withstand the defeat in the tournament.

Yes, they'll just come back stronger next year as that concludes their run for this year and it was an amazing year for them. It's truly part of the history and will make the most of these memories in the future but their run doesn't end there so we'll be expecting them to have some come back and revenge.

[inthelongrun]

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Lost my bet on GG but my ML bet was successful making it still a profitable day. I am starting to play Mobile Legends again since I can no longer afford the longer playing time of DOTA 2.

I congratulate you that in the end you turned out to be profitable. Maybe you will find time for Dota 2, because there is a lot of new things there now with a new patch, and tonight an update was released in which a lot of bugs were fixed and the game became better.

In general, it’s good that teams from the lower bracket can defeat those in the upper bracket, this adds great intrigue, unpredictability and sometimes entertainment to the games.

Thanks mate. My brother will be spending his holidays here and he plays more DOTA 2 than me even if he is also busy at school. He might try to convince me again to play with the new updates.

Generally, I am an underdog fan type so it's cool when things are shaken a bit, and then new teams and players try to topple those on top. It's just that I had a bet on GG. And it was really surprising knowing Azure was shut out in their upper bracket series and yet managed to bounce back in the finals.

Meanwhile, Quinn is making fun of the NA region. The next time he talks he might include the SEA as well.

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Meanwhile, Quinn is making fun of the NA region. The next time he talks he might include the SEA as well.

He's right about NA, it's just dead at all, and don't have that much competition there. But talking about SEA? I don't think that he'll talk shit with that region. He knows how this region is one of the hardest, to be honest. But it's just that there are still fewer teams that are becoming better in this region. And we've got some roster changes with the Nigma Galaxy. All of the roster has been kicked except Kuroky who still remains with the team.

Well, he's one of the team co-founders but I guess that the other co-founders don't want to stay anymore with the team if there's not that much growth at all. Too many good players and young out there that can still be developed but it should be kuroky that must be out of the roster and remain as either a coach or analyst. That's how he can thrive on this esports but he has to accept that his prime days were long gone now and he needs to give way to better young talents on this one bringing the banner of the team. There were also a lot of pro players that have done this and accepted that they're no longer in their prime just like the boys from OG and Alliance and other teams as well.

They won't forever shine and that's the reason of why they are still in the pro scene but not as part of the roster but as part of the back end of the teams that are willing to coach their new young breeds.

[inthelongrun]

Meanwhile, Quinn is making fun of the NA region. The next time he talks he might include the SEA as well.

He's right about NA, it's just dead at all, and don't have that much competition there. But talking about SEA? I don't think that he'll talk shit with that region. He knows how this region is one of the hardest, to be honest. But it's just that there are still fewer teams that are becoming better in this region. And we've got some roster changes with the Nigma Galaxy. All of the roster has been kicked except Kuroky who still remains with the team.

Well, he's one of the team co-founders but I guess that the other co-founders don't want to stay anymore with the team if there's not that much growth at all. Too many good players and young out there that can still be developed but it should be kuroky that must be out of the roster and remain as either a coach or analyst. That's how he can thrive on this esports but he has to accept that his prime days were long gone now and he needs to give way to better young talents on this one bringing the banner of the team. There were also a lot of pro players that have done this and accepted that they're no longer in their prime just like the boys from OG and Alliance and other teams as well.

They won't forever shine and that's the reason of why they are still in the pro scene but not as part of the roster but as part of the back end of the teams that are willing to coach their new young breeds.

I also think Kuroky should just coach or maybe manage the team. I guess he owns the team already. And if he owns it then maybe he can focus on expanding it like what Team Secret is doing, it has a team from a wide number of e-sport teams, from League of Legends and PUBG to mobile games like Wildrift.

And speaking about NA. I just found out that Tundra is already relocating to the region. That organization is rich so it can acquire players from other teams. The good thing is it could dominate the region and position itself for NA's single slot.

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I also think Kuroky should just coach or maybe manage the team. I guess he owns the team already. And if he owns it then maybe he can focus on expanding it like what Team Secret is doing, it has a team from a wide number of e-sport teams, from League of Legends and PUBG to mobile games like Wildrift.

He's probably got the largest stock or share on this team and that's why he remains. While Mind_control is going to play somewhere else, it's possible that they've totally departed ways and have no longer a connection to each other with the team that they've built together. But anyway, maybe we're harsh with Kuroky because the team keeps on failing while we're good and happy with Puppey since these two are from both era and the same goes for Dendi. But with Puppey, he's still got the balls to compete against with the young calibers whilst for Dendi and Kuroky, they're just keep on losing with tournaments and even qualifiers.

And speaking about NA. I just found out that Tundra is already relocating to the region. That organization is rich so it can acquire players from other teams. The good thing is it could dominate the region and position itself for NA's single slot.

Is it an official thing already? Moving to NA is going to be easy for them but it seems that there will be NA players that won't be able to continue with their roster. I'll just wait for more official announcements from them if they'll really move to NA and with the replacement of their roster.

And for the other news to all of the fans, dota 2 players and bettors. Speaking of Kuroky and Nigma, guess what? Sumail and Miracle is back on the roster while Kuro will play for the position 5. Who do you think are the two remaining guys that will complete the roster? I'm thinking of yapzor as their position 4 and for an offlane, I'm not sure who's going to fill that up but rumors said it can be topson playing for another role as position 3.

[Quidat]

Meanwhile, Quinn is making fun of the NA region. The next time he talks he might include the SEA as well.

He's right about NA, it's just dead at all, and don't have that much competition there. But talking about SEA? I don't think that he'll talk shit with that region. He knows how this region is one of the hardest, to be honest. But it's just that there are still fewer teams that are becoming better in this region. And we've got some roster changes with the Nigma Galaxy. All of the roster has been kicked except Kuroky who still remains with the team.

Well, he's one of the team co-founders but I guess that the other co-founders don't want to stay anymore with the team if there's not that much growth at all. Too many good players and young out there that can still be developed but it should be kuroky that must be out of the roster and remain as either a coach or analyst. That's how he can thrive on this esports but he has to accept that his prime days were long gone now and he needs to give way to better young talents on this one bringing the banner of the team. There were also a lot of pro players that have done this and accepted that they're no longer in their prime just like the boys from OG and Alliance and other teams as well.

They won't forever shine and that's the reason of why they are still in the pro scene but not as part of the roster but as part of the back end of the teams that are willing to coach their new young breeds.

Looking down on SEA region? He would really be definitely be bashed for that and this is something that he shouldnt really be doing. About on NA then yes i do agree into this point.
Speaking about Kuroky then it would be just the right time to have that coaching kind of line or career? but well if he do really love Dota that much then there's nothing wrong with it.

I did have some good read up about 3 months ago on this reddit about retirement of kuroky.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/164052k/when_will_people_admit_its_time_for_kuroky_to/?rdt=58062

[passwordnow]

Meanwhile, Quinn is making fun of the NA region. The next time he talks he might include the SEA as well.

He's right about NA, it's just dead at all, and don't have that much competition there. But talking about SEA? I don't think that he'll talk shit with that region. He knows how this region is one of the hardest, to be honest. But it's just that there are still fewer teams that are becoming better in this region. And we've got some roster changes with the Nigma Galaxy. All of the roster has been kicked except Kuroky who still remains with the team.

Well, he's one of the team co-founders but I guess that the other co-founders don't want to stay anymore with the team if there's not that much growth at all. Too many good players and young out there that can still be developed but it should be kuroky that must be out of the roster and remain as either a coach or analyst. That's how he can thrive on this esports but he has to accept that his prime days were long gone now and he needs to give way to better young talents on this one bringing the banner of the team. There were also a lot of pro players that have done this and accepted that they're no longer in their prime just like the boys from OG and Alliance and other teams as well.

They won't forever shine and that's the reason of why they are still in the pro scene but not as part of the roster but as part of the back end of the teams that are willing to coach their new young breeds.

Looking down on SEA region? He would really be definitely be bashed for that and this is something that he shouldnt really be doing. About on NA then yes i do agree into this point.

Nope, he's not looking down on see but the time he talks shit about it, for sure that there will be a large community that's going to trash talk him even in pubs. But IMO, Quinn is a good guy. The clips that we see with his reactions are like snippets of the actual game that has teammates that have triggered him. He's able to prove something for himself and to the entire dota 2 community so whether he talks shit or not, he's got his achievements that he boast with but I don't really think that he'd say something like that on SEA.

Speaking about Kuroky then it would be just the right time to have that coaching kind of line or career? but well if he do really love Dota that much then there's nothing wrong with it.

He won't coach but he'll play as position 5 still with team Nigma Galaxy. But maybe if some things change then he might choose to coach the team instead. And his passion to the game can't be gone too early, I remember him still on Dota 1 days together with other veterans. Oh man, we've grown older.

I did have some good read up about 3 months ago on this reddit about retirement of kuroky.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/164052k/when_will_people_admit_its_time_for_kuroky_to/?rdt=58062

Passion, money and thinks that he can still play with good players. Who knows if he will all of a sudden announces his retirement.

[criptoevangelista]

Does anyone play Street Fighter 6?

I've been promoting bitcoin in my club subscription in the game lol, I have 2 characters at master level, blanka and zangief.

If anyone is there and wants to train a little, I'm available.

[passwordnow]

Does anyone play Street Fighter 6?

I've been promoting bitcoin in my club subscription in the game lol, I have 2 characters at master level, blanka and zangief.

If anyone is there and wants to train a little, I'm available.

I do play Street Fighter but not yet with 6. Is there a huge community on it? As per checking in stake, there's no betting for Street Fighter 6 but I am seeing videos of it with the competition but I just don't know how it is doing with its movement and own community. Do you guys also bet on Street Fighter 6?

If you have this type of offer for this game, I think it's better if you move along with the other communities or forums that it has got. Maybe in social medias and other dedicated forums for games. Because I think that if there are people that are into Street Fighter 6 here, they're just plain players and not really in depth on the game and just plays it casually. But if you can educate us and give us some insight on how's the scene there in the Street Fighter 6, that will give us some glance on how it goes.

[dothebeats]

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Speaking about Kuroky then it would be just the right time to have that coaching kind of line or career? but well if he do really love Dota that much then there's nothing wrong with it.

At this point, kuroky is not really helping his team by playing. His decision making on the fly is no longer as sharp as what it used to, though one can argue that his drafting is still good in this current meta. He's just not as sharp as Puppey in leading the team mid game and making sudden shifts in their strategy to not lose. Also, most of the time he's just feeding anyway.

I guess when you grow up playing as a captain for years, leading different people to victory, you'll have that ego to not quit until you prove that you still got it, even though you're not really doing something beneficial anyway.

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I did have some good read up about 3 months ago on this reddit about retirement of kuroky.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/164052k/when_will_people_admit_its_time_for_kuroky_to/?rdt=58062

Believe me, people know that Kuroky's time as a player is up. A lot are suggesting him to go on a coaching position. He's not a Ceb or a Puppey; his mechanics suck even though his pre-game tactics are good on paper.

[passwordnow]

Where are the Ame fans here? Your boy is back in the professional scene together with the Azure Ray roster but they won't be playing for the same team. They're going to play for the Xtreme Gaming team and this is one of the strong teams that we can see in their region currently. While the former Azure Ray lineup is left with the two players, Lou(1) and Jiang(5) in their respective positions there. And what's sad about Azure Ray is that their EPT points are gone. Despite winning the championship in the ESL Kuala Lumpur Malaysia with 4,800 EPT points, based on its rule then those EPT points are totally wiped out and gone. It's not surprising that the Azure Ray team owner or manager has allowed that to happen since he owns both teams. I thought that this type of rule has been gone before like having two owned teams per tournament but I guess running two teams is allowed as long as they won't participate the same tournament. For easier vieweing, here is the new roster of Xtreme Gaming that everyone is optimistic with.

• Ame
• Xm
• Xxs
• XinQ
• Dy

[passwordnow]

We're back in action, we've got the BB Dacha in Dubai that shall happen soon, for more details below.
~> https://liquipedia.net/dota2/BetBoom_Dacha/Dubai/2024

But before that, it also has a qualifier for all of the regions that you can follow on that link. The 4 regions have already consists of each two regions combined. NA/SA and SEA/CN and that's an interesting qualifier because it involves two regions per qualifier while the others remains alone for EEU, WEU and Mena. There were already 7 teams invited while the rest of 5 remaining qualifier slots are open and this is what's happening now and being fighted for by most participating teams.

I've watched the matched on the lower bracket of G2.IG and Blacklist Rivalry. It was actually two interesting match, map 1 and 2. Both were close games and this is how these qualifiers are tough because only 1 slot per region will be occupied by the champs of this qualifiers. What interesting is that the main event is going to have a pool prize of $1M and this is a good way to start this year ahead for Dota 2.