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[Timelord2067]

Game three of the NRL's State of Origin Series has been moved firstly from Melbourne to Newcastle and has now been moved yet again to the Gold Coast which means all three games are to be played in Queensland this year.  Hopefully, it'll give Qld the shot in the arm to win game three thus avoiding a three game trouncing by NSW.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-10/state-of-origin-iii-moved-from-newcastle-to-gold-coast/100283958

State of Origin III moved to Gold Coast from Newcastle as NSW government bans crowd due to COVID-19 risk

State of Origin III will be played on the Gold Coast after the NSW government advised the Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) it would not allow a major event to be held in Newcastle with a crowd.

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[aoluain]

Well hopefully they can save that 3 match trouncing but I wouldnt
hav much faith in it judging on the last two games which were'nt
even close.






In the Lions Tour the GAME 3 result was:

Cell C Sharks 31 - 71 British & Irish Lions ::: Highlights: https://youtu.be/kFskngVNZR0

The teams were closely matched into the second half but after the
Sharks lost Jaden Hendrikse to a red card incident it was all one way traffic.

Great game, lots of scoring [obviously]

[Timelord2067]

The ABC radio announcer nearly fell out of the commentary box when Queensland scored a try early in the first half.

So far at half time in game three of the 2021 State of Origin the score is Qld 8 - 6 NSW - it's half time at the moment and the commentators have praised a "return to origin" playing.



I'm expecting the final score will be Qld 18 - 12 NSW (we'll know in another hour's time)

[aoluain]

So Queensland deny New South Wales the 3 straight wins, I hope Timelord you had a  bet
on that? so what happened that they turned up ir was it that NSW had the series won?

Close game, 2 point win!


Rugby Union

British and Irish Lions have a big test tonight in GAME 4 against South Africas A team
they have 11 of their world cup winning squad available for the game, should be a good
one. I want to put a bet on Lions but cant on Sportsbet

[Timelord2067]

So Queensland deny New South Wales the 3 straight wins, I hope Timelord you had a  bet
on that? so what happened that they turned up ir was it that NSW had the series won?

Close game, 2 point win!

I sure did!  I got seven to one which covers the first two games losses and a little bit left over:



Unfortunately, France got the better of Australia the night before.

Rugby Union

British and Irish Lions have a big test tonight in GAME 4 against South Africas A team
they have 11 of their world cup winning squad available for the game, should be a good
one. I want to put a bet on Lions but cant on Sportsbet

I haven't seen any bets made available, but I'll be sure to put one on if it comes up.

There was just one match in the Qld Cup that I've been able to put a bet on ... and it just happened to be the team that won!

[aoluain]

Lions Tour

Just as well I couldnt get a bet on the game yesterday, South Africa won 17-13.

The Lions took a while to come to terms with SA's intensity but came back strong
after 30 minutes.

This article from Rugby Planet sums it up

Both coaches will have a lot to think about this week, however, the key takeout is that the Lions probably had more than South Africa thought they had, and the Springboks probably had a little less than the Lions expected.

State of Origin

Well done Timelord, 7:1 is nice odds and nice to be able to claw back some previous losses.


Australia v France - thats 2 close matches both with only 2 points difference. Last game
will be a decider then.

[Timelord2067]

The first game of round 18 of the 2021 NRL series is underway with the Eels ahead 18 - 0 in the first 25 minutes:



I expect their winning streak to continue to full time.

In other wins this week, I expect the Sea Eagles over a depleted Dragon's team, Roosters, Sharks, Storm, Panthers, Wests' Tigers and Rabbitohs unless there are any upset wins by the bottom eight teams?

[aoluain]

I found it hard to make some picks this week for some reason. I have 3 on, fairly safe with
3 of the top 4, Storm, Panthers and Rabbitohs, I'm wondering how I missed the Eels and
I'm thinking of following your recommendation on the Wests Tigers against The Broncos ~


Rugby Union

@Timelord2067 are you betting on todays game France v Australia? Australia looking like favourites, slightly.

[Timelord2067]

Rugby League.

[quote author=aoluain link=topic=5265288.msg57479527#msg57479527 date=1626509134]
I found it hard to make some picks this week for some reason. I have 3 on, fairly safe with
3 of the top 4, Storm, Panthers and Rabbitohs, I'm wondering how I missed the Eels and
I'm thinking of following your recommendation on the Wests Tigers against The Broncos ~
[/quote]

The Canberra Raiders managed to trounce the Sharks but as you can see from the stats after their match today, the Sharks are placed in the top eight with much better overall game statistics:



The Storm are ahead 18 - 0 against the Knights at the 32 minute marker.


Rugby Union.

[quote author=aoluain link=topic=5265288.msg57479527#msg57479527 date=1626509134]
@Timelord2067 are you betting on todays game France v Australia? Australia looking like favourites, slightly.
[/quote]

Yeh, I've had bets on their previous two games (Australia to Win!!!)  Not sure why the odds have swung Australia's way at the moment.



As you can see I've also gone with Wales over Argentina.  Not sure why I went with Tonga as I had a feeling Samoa would win (and the odds were 3.5:1, so it would have been a decent win/wager)

[aoluain]

Rugby Union

Australia win and take the series beating France 2-1, good pick there @Timelord2067

I was going to bet on Wales beating Argentina but I was thinking a lot of key players
are on the Lions team so I didnt bet. Luckily though, Argentina are a decent team
who regularly play against South Africa, NZ and Australia in "The Rugby Championship"
The clocked a big score 11-33.


Rugby League

I ended up putting a small bet on The Wests Tigers to bead The Broncos, and that they did
with nice odds too. Thank you Timelord

[Timelord2067]

[quote author=aoluain link=topic=5265288.msg57487829#msg57487829 date=1626598795]
Rugby Union

Australia win and take the series beating France 2-1, good pick there @Timelord2067

I was going to bet on Wales beating Argentina but I was thinking a lot of key players are on the Lions team so I didnt bet. Luckily though, Argentina are a decent team who regularly play against South Africa, NZ and Australia in "The Rugby Championship" The clocked a big score 11-33.[/quote]

I hadn't taken into consideration that the Welsh team would be depleted because of their Tour of SA (the other SA) - I know the Spingbock's are always a formidable team, but I'm putting my money on the English/Irish Lions to win the three games.

I put the Australian win down to a hometown advantage on the back of the State Of Origin losses for Qld (the Aust/French match was played at Lang Park where one of the SOE games was held)

Rugby League

I ended up putting a small bet on The Wests Tigers to bead The Broncos, and that they did with nice odds too. Thank you Timelord

I nearly had a perfect round of bets this week.



The Canberra Raiders have shown themselves as being able to reach deep and pull out a win from time to time.


Round 19



I'm going with the Eels, Roosters, Storm, Rabbitohs (NZ Warriors falling down the Rabbitoh's...) Sea Eagles, Panthers, Dragons and probably the Sharks over the Bulldogs (but that last one might be a good game to watch)

[aoluain]

Rugby League

I'm going with the top 4 again for this round, Storm, Panthers, Rabbitohs and Eels.

So round 19 of 25, 2 teams tied at the top with 32 points with a third on 30, if after all
draws 2 or more teams are on the same points is the winner picked from Points Difference?


Rugby Union

I agree with you that the Lions can take a series win from the Springboks but it will
be close, im not sure about 3 from 3 though. It will also depend on SA having a
full squad to choose from. The A team from last week were missing some key
players like their captain Siya Kolisi.

[Timelord2o67]

I'm going with the top 4 again for this round, Storm, Panthers, Rabbitohs and Eels.

So round 19 of 25, 2 teams tied at the top with 32 points with a third on 30, if after all draws 2 or more teams are on the same points is the winner picked from Points Difference?

Not exactly.  The top eight go on to play for a spot in the semi finals with the bottom eight teams eliminated from the rest of the season.  The Grandfinal isn't until mid September, so there are more games to play - choosing the winner from *just* the top eight will progressively get harder some matches.

As you can see on the leader board, four of the bottom eight have odds that suggest they are no longer in contention - Notice how Sports Bet isn't even accepting bets on the Bulldogs anymore?  They were at $1,001:1 a few weeks ago, now they are for all intents out of the series.

[aoluain]

I'm going with the top 4 again for this round, Storm, Panthers, Rabbitohs and Eels.

So round 19 of 25, 2 teams tied at the top with 32 points with a third on 30, if after all draws 2 or more teams are on the same points is the winner picked from Points Difference?

Not exactly.  The top eight go on to play for a spot in the semi finals with the bottom eight teams eliminated from the rest of the season.  The Grandfinal isn't until mid September, so there are more games to play - choosing the winner from *just* the top eight will progressively get harder some matches.

As you can see on the leader board, four of the bottom eight have odds that suggest they are no longer in contention - Notice how Sports Bet isn't even accepting bets on the Bulldogs anymore?  They were at $1,001:1 a few weeks ago, now they are for all intents out of the series.

Oh right! wow thats a pretty long season.

Just looking at the finals system on Wikipedia, it seems complicated at first glance,
and looks like the excitement and tournament buzz ramps up in these last weeks.
It also looks like the system is weighted in favour of the top 4.

Week one
1st qualifying final: 1st ranked team hosts 4th ranked team
2nd qualifying final: 2nd ranked team hosts 3rd ranked team
1st elimination final: 5th ranked team hosts 8th ranked team
2nd elimination final: 6th ranked team hosts 7th ranked team

The eight finalists are split into two groups for the opening week of the finals series. The top four teams have the best chance of winning the premiership and play the two qualifying finals. The winners get a bye through to week three of the tournament to play home preliminary finals, while the losers play home semi-finals in week two. The bottom four teams play the two elimination finals, where the winners advance to week two away games and the losers' seasons are over. The scheduling of each of the four games is at the discretion of the NRL.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NRL_finals_system

[Timelord2067]

Rugby League.

I've just put my bets on for this week.  The Storm and Rooster's games had odds of 1.02 and 1.04 respectively, so I put some spreads on (which I don't normally like doing)

Storm ( down 30.5 points against the Nth Qld Cowboys) at 1.88 and the Roosters (down 10.5 points against the Newcastle Knights) 1.81

I think I may have to miss placing bets when the odds get to be so low.

Rugby Union.

• TOKYO OLYMPICS 2020 RUGBY WOMEN GOLD MEDAL WINNER - Fiji Women (ya never know)
• TOKYO OLYMPICS 2020 RUGBY WOMEN GOLD MEDAL WINNER - New Zealand (more likely).

[aoluain]

Rugby League.

I've just put my bets on for this week.  The Storm and Rooster's games had odds of 1.02 and 1.04 respectively, so I put some spreads on (which I don't normally like doing)

Storm ( down 30.5 points against the Nth Qld Cowboys) at 1.88 and the Roosters (down 10.5 points against the Newcastle Knights) 1.81

I think I may have to miss placing bets when the odds get to be so low.

Rugby Union.

• TOKYO OLYMPICS 2020 RUGBY WOMEN GOLD MEDAL WINNER - Fiji Women (ya never know)
• TOKYO OLYMPICS 2020 RUGBY WOMEN GOLD MEDAL WINNER - New Zealand (more likely).

Yes exactly Timelord, when the odds get so low, there isnt any point in betting unless
you are betting with very large amounts.

Rugby League

First game in the NRL Round 19 has not gone to plan, Eels loose by 2 points to The Raiders,
I'm on a bit of a loosing streak ATM with some lost bets at The Swiss Open Tennis.

Rugby Union

Absolutely no clue about Olympics Rugby, New Zealand has to be a firm bet!

are you making a bet Timelord?


Im wondering if Sportsbet are going to offer bets on the 3 test matches between The Lions
and Springboks? The phone app is not giving me an optiin on any Union games...

[Timelord2067]

Rugby League.

Yes, I've put those two bets on.  NitrogenSports.eu haven't been showing Union on their site for a few days.

I managed to watch the Eels Vs Raiders game.  I felt the first half was very lackluster, however, the commentators were gushing at the play given it was 0 - 0 at half time.  In the 44th minute, the Raiders scored a good try then followed up with a fluke try.  The game became electric then the Eels scored taking the score to 6 - 12  With five minutes to go, the Eels scored in the corner and the video refs took nearly five minutes to award the try.  The conversion was missed and the scor was 10 -12 with four minutes on the clock.  The Eels scored another dynamite try in the same corner with less than a minute to go, but the raiders players had managed to crash tackle the player out of touch and the Raiders won 12 - 10 against the Eels.

The Raiders' team are coming together and might push into the top eight/six ?? by the end of the regular series, so I'll be leaning their way with future bets this year.

Hopefully, that's the only lost wager this round.

[aoluain]

Rugby League

I wonder were The Eels taking it easy, confident that they will qualify in the top 4 for
the finals? they seemed to be able to react to the Raiders uptempo change, but not
enough obviously. They would want to be careful though, Roosters are 2 points behind.

Going well with todays matches, Storm with a close win from The Cowboys and
Rabbitohs a handy win over the Warriors. I have a big bet by my standards on
The Panthers .5mbtc to try claw back some losses.

Rugby Union

I see now Sportsbet have union listed and have a book open on the Lions Tour,
I have a small bet on The British and Irish Lions in the 1st test today.

The coach Warren Gatland has made a few big changes, I would like to hope he
knows what he's doing. Its going to be tough playing the World Cup Champions
on their own turf and of course they are favourites

[aoluain]

Rugby 7's

Something we dont get a chance to discuss and bet on is the 7's game. I have watched
it a few times and as with everyones opinion its very exciting. It happens to be an
Olympic sport and there are a few games on today,

New Zealand v Argentina - I have a small bet on NZ
Australia v South Korea - Betting is closed obviously because of the massive mismatch.

These matches are listed under Rugby Union on sportsbet.io

Rugby Union

Great win last weekend on The Lions Tour. Gatland managed the team well to
come from a 12-3 deficit at half time to win 17-22 with an explosive 2nd half.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/lions-south-africa-live-score-21134236

Player ratings are all in the 8's and 9's > https://www.planetrugby.com/british-and-irish-lions-player-ratings-against-south-africa-forward-pack-take-a-bow/

Impressive player rating of 9 for the captain Alun Wyn Jones back from a shoulder dislocation.
The man is a legend.


Second test is scheduled for July 31st.

[Timelord2067]

I'm relying on NitrogenSports.eu for my Rugby bets - most of the time they have various countries fixtures, however, they have League more than Union (and I haven't seen any Seven's games listed recently).  I was able to put a couple of bets on the Olympic Men's rugby - Fiji over GB and Australia over New Zealand.  I've just had another look and found the SA Vs GB/I Lions game set down for the 1st of August (both are close odds).

Rugby League.

I forgot the Dragons team was depleted due to the Covid Lock-down breaches in last week's round.



For round 20, I'm going with the Eels, West's Tigers, NQ Cowboys, Rabbitohs (too short odds to place a wager), Raiders who are returning to form of old, the Panthers over the Storm which should be a tough game...  I want to say the Titans over the Bulldogs, but I keep thinking the dogs are going to pull a hat out of the asses...  and ... maybe the Sharks over the Sea Eagles (7th and eight on the ladder - both are late entries to the top eight)