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May 26, 2023, 08:39:43 PM
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Whenever I visit the French League topic I see many people just talking about PSG and other people are complaining because they think in French League other teams got no chance and the only team got enough chance for the trophy is PSG because of the money they spent and unfortunately we do have the same situation in Bundesliga.
If other teams get more investors we can have a more interesting league in which other teams can race with PSG for the title.
That is one of the reasons and also one of the factors why Ligue 1 is neither attractive nor competitive from other top leagues. Now Paris Saint Germain's financial ability is far from the other clubs that are here, that's what makes it difficult for them to make at least their strength equal to Paris Saint Germain. For example, we can see how they are in the Champions League, with in fact the opponents they face have the same strength, even more than Paris Saint Germain, they can't even speak more in the Champions League by repeatedly failing in that competition.
In last few years, we have big fall in few leagues in UEFA which is surely the biggest concern for them specially here in French League we have no attraction mostly it's PSG which is controlling, and few other teams are giving tough time for the remaining spots which is quite boring, so now it's time for relative authorities to work on this and have good package for the investors which bring quality players and increase performance of the clubs which create good entertainment and competition as well.

In this year we have Lens which is currently at second spot otherwise mostly teams are regular at these spots without any challenge just because of this all PSG is also having not better results in Champions League because their dominance in this league is giving them not competition which helps them for Champions League title.

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May 26, 2023, 08:54:51 PM
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Rennes team has no other choice but to beat monaco in the upcoming game and wait for lille to drop points so they can take their fifth spot but it seems unlikely since lille game is much easier aginst Nantes who are on a tight spot in the relegation and in need of points.

Rennes still have hope here, because the opponent of Lille in the next match will be Nantes who are currently in the relegation zone. They are in 17th place with 33 points, 1 point different from Auxerre who is above them. So, they will play with full attack against Lille. I can say that Lille match against Nantes will result in at least a draw, why? because if they (Nantes) manage to get 1 point and win the last match, they can still escape the relegation zone and bring Auxerre into the relegation zone through the goal difference they each have. But this is just an assumption, because after seeing the betting market, I'm not sure that this match will result in a draw Cheesy.

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May 26, 2023, 09:13:32 PM
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I don't have big expectations from Lens in the league next season to tell the truth. Because I think this is a one-time thing for them in these years just as Lille did a couple of years ago. The difference between these teams is that Lille even won the league title while PSG were losing many points in unexpected matches. PSG have had another season with many point losses in this season but Lens couldn't become as consistent as Lille I'm afraid. This is still very good for them though.

Because nobody was expecting them to be competitive for the Champions League this much at the beginning of the season. Now they are about to join the tournament unless they make a huge mistake in last two matches. However I don't expect them to much thing in the Champions League if they improve the quality of their players more this summer.


Lens' current performance really deserves to be appreciated regardless of what they are really different from the previous season because this season they have experienced a good improvement.
Now they only need 2 points to make sure they are free from the rarity of Marseille and actually for the remaining 2 matches and only need 2 points it could be even more because seeing from their current condition they will only be against Ajaccio and Auxerre I think they will take full points . Even against Ajaccio tomorrow could be the answer to ensure they qualify for next season's Champions League.

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May 26, 2023, 09:24:25 PM
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I don't have big expectations from Lens in the league next season to tell the truth. Because I think this is a one-time thing for them in these years just as Lille did a couple of years ago. The difference between these teams is that Lille even won the league title while PSG were losing many points in unexpected matches. PSG have had another season with many point losses in this season but Lens couldn't become as consistent as Lille I'm afraid. This is still very good for them though.

Because nobody was expecting them to be competitive for the Champions League this much at the beginning of the season. Now they are about to join the tournament unless they make a huge mistake in last two matches. However I don't expect them to much thing in the Champions League if they improve the quality of their players more this summer.


Yeah, Ligue 1 is mostly unpredictable and having shortage of finances which helps teams for staying at the same level for few time as happen to Lille they were champions and then struggling for the top spots there were no hopes from Lens for this performance, but they have done against all odds and now having second spot and Champions League qualification as well which need good strength in squad for next season as well which needs good funding which is doubtful as we have few good teams are also struggling like Monaco and Marseille for challenging to leaders PSG.

In this season we have problems for few teams which were mostly doing good like Rennes, Nice and Lyon they have the worst time in early half of this season and now recovering which is not as par their requirements Monaco also having poor run in last few matches which is not good sign for them with most chances now they can face exit from UEFA events.
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May 26, 2023, 09:40:34 PM
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Also, that's better for PSG if they lose Messi and Neymar at the end of this season because even these players have to get high salaries and maybe instead of paying high salaries to these players, PSG can find younger and better players to have a balanced team.

100% true. Even though PSG is a cheating club and they have no problem bypassing the FFP, getting rid of players that are too expensive and do not give a result corresponding to spending on them is quite reasonable. PSG should follow City's path - they should buy fresh stars, not retirees and go through (buy-try-sell if they don't fit) until they have a decent team. According to this model, City were able to assemble a strong team, why not PSG follow their path.
Don't forget that PSG has a dismissal option which is quite terrible if we look at it. they don't give much time to the coach because if they have trouble in a few games then the coach will be sacked and that is true after these few seasons that happened at psg.

Apart from that I think if psg follows City's strategy then they will be able to become a stronger team in the coming seasons.  they just need to change the buying scheme in the upcoming transfer window where young players are more targeted to become their prey than buying star players with old ages.

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May 26, 2023, 09:41:49 PM
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That is one of the reasons and also one of the factors why Ligue 1 is neither attractive nor competitive from other top leagues. Now Paris Saint Germain's financial ability is far from the other clubs that are here, that's what makes it difficult for them to make at least their strength equal to Paris Saint Germain. For example, we can see how they are in the Champions League, with in fact the opponents they face have the same strength, even more than Paris Saint Germain, they can't even speak more in the Champions League by repeatedly failing in that competition.

I thought things will change in the French League this season but it turned out to be the same old PSG-dominated league. Until other League One clubs have access to the kind of funds PSG have, they will not compete with them effectively. More investors maybe from the middle east need to be attracted to league one to give them the needed financial backup to sign world-class players that will compete with the squad in PSG.
It is undeniable that there are still some changes and competition in Ligue 1, but that only happens for clubs other than PSG. Like this season, Lens has appeared extraordinary or maybe the performance reversal that has happened for Strasbourg this season, but all of that will still be covered by PSG because, consciously or not, PSG is like the main focus of Ligue 1 with its players and finances.
Things like this still won't change in my opinion as long as there is no one to compete in terms of the finances of the club in Ligue 1 because you believe it or not money has to be beaten by money too, even though there are several conditions such as Lille which gave a surprise in the previous few seasons , but such a thing would not happen for the first few times in the continuing season.

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I don't have big expectations from Lens in the league next season to tell the truth. Because I think this is a one-time thing for them in these years just as Lille did a couple of years ago. The difference between these teams is that Lille even won the league title while PSG were losing many points in unexpected matches. PSG have had another season with many point losses in this season but Lens couldn't become as consistent as Lille I'm afraid. This is still very good for them though.

Because nobody was expecting them to be competitive for the Champions League this much at the beginning of the season. Now they are about to join the tournament unless they make a huge mistake in last two matches. However I don't expect them to much thing in the Champions League if they improve the quality of their players more this summer.


Lens' current performance really deserves to be appreciated regardless of what they are really different from the previous season because this season they have experienced a good improvement.
Now they only need 2 points to make sure they are free from the rarity of Marseille and actually for the remaining 2 matches and only need 2 points it could be even more because seeing from their current condition they will only be against Ajaccio and Auxerre I think they will take full points . Even against Ajaccio tomorrow could be the answer to ensure they qualify for next season's Champions League.
I don't think Lens players are currently concerned about how difficult or easy it'll be for them to compete in both the French Ligue 1 and also in the UEFA Champions League and that I think is very understandable because very few persons expected them to finish second in the league this season.
Lens players and fans are currently enjoying their achievement so whatever happens next season will be deliberated on later.

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May 26, 2023, 10:23:47 PM
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Also, that's better for PSG if they lose Messi and Neymar at the end of this season because even these players have to get high salaries and maybe instead of paying high salaries to these players, PSG can find younger and better players to have a balanced team.

100% true. Even though PSG is a cheating club and they have no problem bypassing the FFP, getting rid of players that are too expensive and do not give a result corresponding to spending on them is quite reasonable. PSG should follow City's path - they should buy fresh stars, not retirees and go through (buy-try-sell if they don't fit) until they have a decent team. According to this model, City were able to assemble a strong team, why not PSG follow their path.
Everything is money oriented but indeed in this case I quite agree with what you said, instead of looking for players who are almost retired like Messi or Sergio they should try to follow the style of some clubs in other leagues for some young players who have potential.
Even if big names like Messi, Neymar or even Ramos won't show anything because it can be said that even though they can still compete, their era is actually almost over.

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May 26, 2023, 10:33:31 PM
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Rennes team has no other choice but to beat monaco in the upcoming game and wait for lille to drop points so they can take their fifth spot but it seems unlikely since lille game is much easier aginst Nantes who are on a tight spot in the relegation and in need of points.
Monaco also has no other choice but to win at Rennes in order to maintain its top four position in the standings because it is likely that Lille will also win the game more easily at home when hosting Nantes, who are currently still in the relegation zone. And I think those two matches will be quite interesting to look forward to because they are fighting for a better position in the remaining two games of the season one of which will be played in the near future.

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May 26, 2023, 10:38:02 PM
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Rennes team has no other choice but to beat monaco in the upcoming game and wait for lille to drop points so they can take their fifth spot but it seems unlikely since lille game is much easier aginst Nantes who are on a tight spot in the relegation and in need of points.
It's a hard job for Rennes to win against Monaco. Although Rennes have an advantage in that match against Monaco, because that match will also be held at home Rennes Roazhon Park, they will be fully supported by their fans. Also Rennes have a very impressive record when playing at home, this season they have record 14 winning in 18 home matches. But Monaco isn't too bad when playing away this season, they have 10 winning in 18 away matches, also based on head to head in the last 4 matches Monaco is better. There is a possibility that match will be end with a draw result.

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May 26, 2023, 10:42:06 PM
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Rennes team has no other choice but to beat monaco in the upcoming game and wait for lille to drop points so they can take their fifth spot but it seems unlikely since lille game is much easier aginst Nantes who are on a tight spot in the relegation and in need of points.
Monaco also has no other choice but to win at Rennes in order to maintain its top four position in the standings because it is likely that Lille will also win the game more easily at home when hosting Nantes, who are currently still in the relegation zone. And I think those two matches will be quite interesting to look forward to because they are fighting for a better position in the remaining two games of the season one of which will be played in the near future.
These two teams are only 3 points apart on the standings and for Monaco they have a poor record in the last 5 matches. I doubt they will be able to play nicely at Rennes. In 5th place is Lille who can take advantage of the opportunity this week to move up to the top 4 if Monaco suffers a defeat against Rennes.

But with this situation which is quite important at the moment, I think Monaco will play more impressively to be able to get 3 points in this match because they only have the opportunity, which they have to do as well as possible.  Rennes was indeed able to hold off Monaco in the first meeting this season and hope that this second meeting Monaco can steal to victory at home to Rennes.

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May 26, 2023, 10:56:26 PM
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Rennes team has no other choice but to beat monaco in the upcoming game and wait for lille to drop points so they can take their fifth spot but it seems unlikely since lille game is much easier aginst Nantes who are on a tight spot in the relegation and in need of points.
Monaco also has no other choice but to win at Rennes in order to maintain its top four position in the standings because it is likely that Lille will also win the game more easily at home when hosting Nantes, who are currently still in the relegation zone. And I think those two matches will be quite interesting to look forward to because they are fighting for a better position in the remaining two games of the season one of which will be played in the near future.
if it is predicted it seems that Monaco is hopeless because of the poor performance by Monaco players it is very easy to be defeated by Rennes at their home ground.

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May 26, 2023, 11:04:53 PM
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Even if Lens make it to the Champions League directly I don't have much more expectation from them later on. They will still have completed the current season way ahead of the expectations. Besides to be able to do something good in the Champions League, Lens would need to do make really serious changes in the starting lineup. above all else. On the other hand it is quite surprising to see Marseille having consistency issues more than Lens during the season. Things could have been the other way around now.

Marseille actually have a better squad than Lens which is more capable on paper. But they just can't reflect this onto the field. They are still about to join the Champions League by playing qualification matches though and they can still increase the number of French teams in the Champions League groups to 3.

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May 26, 2023, 11:12:56 PM
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Rennes team has no other choice but to beat monaco in the upcoming game and wait for lille to drop points so they can take their fifth spot but it seems unlikely since lille game is much easier aginst Nantes who are on a tight spot in the relegation and in need of points.
It's a hard job for Rennes to win against Monaco. Although Rennes have an advantage in that match against Monaco, because that match will also be held at home Rennes Roazhon Park, they will be fully supported by their fans. Also Rennes have a very impressive record when playing at home, this season they have record 14 winning in 18 home matches. But Monaco isn't too bad when playing away this season, they have 10 winning in 18 away matches, also based on head to head in the last 4 matches Monaco is better. There is a possibility that match will be end with a draw result.
Monaco should defend their position by drawing to rennes in the next match , would be a hard match for both despite the recent form of monaco as they only get 2 win 1 draw and 3 losses out of 5 latest matches , that's crazy bad form as they are approaching the end if the season.

They should have finished top 3 if they keep up the good form , too bad they wasted it away.

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May 26, 2023, 11:22:04 PM
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Even if Lens make it to the Champions League directly I don't have much more expectation from them later on. They will still have completed the current season way ahead of the expectations. Besides to be able to do something good in the Champions League, Lens would need to do make really serious changes in the starting lineup. above all else. On the other hand it is quite surprising to see Marseille having consistency issues more than Lens during the season. Things could have been the other way around now.

Marseille actually have a better squad than Lens which is more capable on paper. But they just can't reflect this onto the field. They are still about to join the Champions League by playing qualification matches though and they can still increase the number of French teams in the Champions League groups to 3.
Regardless of anything, in the end they failed because that already seems to have happened but of course it is a good achievement for Lens because being in a big competition will obviously also give a real impact especially for their class of team which can be said to be without star players I think that it's good for them.
Talking about the Champions League for Ligue 1, they are still backward so far because their strong candidate, namely PSG, has not been able to afford it, but for Lens there is a good result apart from the gain of experience, they also have more income from participation like this for the club's finances.

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May 26, 2023, 11:41:15 PM
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This must be the week Lens are securing the second position by winning against Ajaccio as the point gap would be five points with Marseille the worst case scenario after that. Lens have been the team I most admired during this season here. The biggest disappointment for me has been Monaco honestly. I would have liked to see them in a race to be a part of the Champions League as well.

But they might even lose the spot in the Europa League if they continue to play like this on the final two weeks. Because their recent form is just horrible now.

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 #13977

Even if Lens make it to the Champions League directly I don't have much more expectation from them later on. They will still have completed the current season way ahead of the expectations. Besides to be able to do something good in the Champions League, Lens would need to do make really serious changes in the starting lineup. above all else. On the other hand it is quite surprising to see Marseille having consistency issues more than Lens during the season. Things could have been the other way around now.

Marseille actually have a better squad than Lens which is more capable on paper. But they just can't reflect this onto the field. They are still about to join the Champions League by playing qualification matches though and they can still increase the number of French teams in the Champions League groups to 3.
Let's use some creative thinking in this situation, friend. Let's explore the thought that Lens's entry into the Champions League might have been a brilliant move. Certainly, their squad isn't as flashy as some, nor are they the big guns. You're probably familiar with the proverb that says the gladiator's ferocity, not the colossus' size, determines the winner of the fight.

Also Marseille? This season, I guess, is like a pendulum. There is a sea of potential, but they can't seem to gather their forces. Though keep in mind that football is much like a suspenseful thriller. They still have a chance to perform a miracle and qualify for the Champions League, bringing the French total to an impressive three. That would be a sight for sure!

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May 27, 2023, 06:25:24 AM
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This must be the week Lens are securing the second position by winning against Ajaccio as the point gap would be five points with Marseille the worst case scenario after that. Lens have been the team I most admired during this season here. The biggest disappointment for me has been Monaco honestly. I would have liked to see them in a race to be a part of the Champions League as well.

But they might even lose the spot in the Europa League if they continue to play like this on the final two weeks. Because their recent form is just horrible now.
In League One, the Lens team has to be praised, the current position of the Lens is after the PSG team. If PSG were not playing in League One I think Lens would have qualified to secure the title. This team is pushing themselves tremendously.

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May 27, 2023, 06:57:39 AM
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Rennes team has no other choice but to beat monaco in the upcoming game and wait for lille to drop points so they can take their fifth spot but it seems unlikely since lille game is much easier aginst Nantes who are on a tight spot in the relegation and in need of points.

Even then, Rennes had to work hard to overthrow Monaco in the match later. because after all, Monaco will not allow their position to be taken over by a team that is below their ranking. So, this match will be a fairly competitive match even though Rennes is the favorite for the bookies in terms of odds. but that does not mean Monaco will be easily defeated by the home team. after all, these two teams have several injured players who are likely to be absent in the match later.

In the other match, Lille will host Nantes. 1 point difference from Rennes, Paulo Fonseca's squad will not waste the momentum playing at his own base to subvert his opponent, moreover, on paper Lille is far superior to Nantes, which in fact is ranked 17th. well, it seems difficult for Rennes to overtake the ranking occupied by Lille, as well as Monaco who don't want their position to be taken over by Lille. So, to find out more, let's just wait for this match to be held.
Rennes has hard schedules because they have to fight against Monaco and both teams have same mission that don't want to lose because they want to finish at top 5 and in this match i can see Rennes is the favourite this because at home Rennes often to win with big scores and the latest is Rennes can win with scores 4-0 from Troyes but Monaco also is not in the good shape because last week they just lose from Lyon and for this match although Monaco is strong team but i feel like Rennes will be the winner of this match

For other match Lille vs Nantes actually this is good chances for Lille to collect 3 points today this because we all know Nantes really weak recently and their records also looks very poor that they had passed 12 matches on Ligue 1 without the winning results and Nantes also has failed to scores goals in the last 4 matches so if we see from these records i think Lille shouldn't have any problem to beat Nantes today

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Even if Lens make it to the Champions League directly I don't have much more expectation from them later on. They will still have completed the current season way ahead of the expectations. Besides to be able to do something good in the Champions League, Lens would need to do make really serious changes in the starting lineup. above all else. On the other hand it is quite surprising to see Marseille having consistency issues more than Lens during the season. Things could have been the other way around now.

Marseille actually have a better squad than Lens which is more capable on paper. But they just can't reflect this onto the field. They are still about to join the Champions League by playing qualification matches though and they can still increase the number of French teams in the Champions League groups to 3.
I also thought about this and I have a similar conclusion. For instance if you check the teams that are coming from the English Premier League, you will discover that the newest name in the list is the Newcastle United and when you compare Newcastle to Lenz you will understand that Lenz is no match for Newcastle United.
So they need to invest more in the team in order to have a stake in the Champions League, even the Newcastle United I mentioned above, there is no guarantee that they will qualify from the group stage. Champions league is not easy for first timers in the recent time.

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