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May 18, 2023, 07:04:13 PM
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This is one of the matches that I will watch apart from Lyon who will face Monaco because indeed for Week 36 I think there are 2 big matches that will happen.
The conditions of Lille and Marseille from a statistical point of view are better than Marseille but in this case in terms of the condition of the players I think their qualities are equal regardless of what they are the same.



The odds are currently the favorite is still at Lille but I think with the current conditions Marseille will win and I will try to bet there considering that 2.75 is still very decent in my opinion.

Apparently, this match is quite interesting and looks like it will offer an exciting fight. in fact, the two teams both need full points for both Marseille and especially Lille as the home team. in this match, it seems clear that Lille will target full points after experiencing two matches without a win. this fight is important for them to get back to winning ways, as well as maintain their ranking. but with the unstable performance, it is clear that to overthrow Marseille will be quite difficult even though the match is played at their home ground. at least, Lille has to work hard.

On the contrary, Marseille needs a win in this match. that way, Marseille will shift the ranking occupied by Lens, even if only temporarily. but at least, Lens will be under a little pressure to get a win in their match. it could be, Lens performance is messy. to be honest, I can't speculate too far yet, because we haven't got the latest information for the two teams. but referring to the H2H of these two teams, in the last game Marseille won their match against Lille. for a while, I agree with you that Marseille has a bigger chance to win this match later.

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May 18, 2023, 07:15:45 PM
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If Marseille is able to hold Lille's pace this weekend, it is clear that there is a possibility for Rennes to displace Lille, which is currently in fifth place in the standings. Because Rennes also still has the ability to win at Ajaccio's cage, making the competition look quite interesting for a team that is eyeing the fifth position in the standings at the moment. Apart from that, Lens must also be able to maintain consistency in the next three matches in order to secure second place in the standings.
Right now, league table is having few interesting things for the last few weeks of this season just PSG is clearly settled for the top, and then we have interesting fight for the second spot between Lens and Marseille where Lens is favourite, and we have entertaining competition for the remaining UEFA spots with because with current performance nothing is clear who is going to stay on which spot but if we have Lille steal the show against Marseille then surely things could be clear about all but right now we have to wait for the final outcome of this season and spots.

In case of Marseille win then surely Lille lost their current spot, and we will have to wait till end who is going to stay at the second spot but in case of draw or Lille win all will be clear and things could be relaxed for the few top teams as well.
This league was never an entertaining league to be fair, and if it wasn't for PSG then all the other teams would not make it to top 5 leagues, I would have put Eredevise over this league when you remove PSG from the calculation.

So, there is really no reason to get happy or hyped about any of the matches, I do gamble on them here and there, mainly PSG obviously but I did managed to gamble on Lens and Marseille this season a bit too but that doesn't mean it's as fun to bet on this games as it is to bet on premier league games. Hell even Bundesliga has three obviously good teams, Bayern at the top like PSG but at least dortmund and leipzig are good teams, ligue 1 doesn't have that obvious better ones, look at odds for Marseille and Lens at the start of the season to understand the difference.

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May 18, 2023, 07:43:16 PM
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The problem with Paris Saint Germain was not having a balanced team, they hired many superstar players for this season and they had the best forwards in the world also Paris Saint Germain got enough investment to pay enough to the players but they didn't have good coach and balanced team, that's why the fans were also unhappy.
PSG had a balanced team and they have been outstanding in the French League. The only issue that they have is their inability to replicate their success in the Ligue One in the Champions League. Sometimes quality players or good teams don't transcend to victory in the Champions League. When Manchester City lost the 2021 finals against Chelsea, they were the better team. PSG needs a total overhauling. Players like Messi and Neymar should leave and let a much younger team be built under Mbappe.

I have been praying for Lens to maintain that second position since and they are doing just that. At a point I felt the pressure would be too much and they would fold under pressure but they have proved me wrong and I'm happy for that.
My faith in them increased when they won Marseille two game weeks ago. There/s a saying that if you want to be champions you have to beat the best. In this case Lens beat the biggest threat to second position.
They haven't qualified for the champions league yet because there are still three matches to play and they are just two points above Marseille but they are in a relatively good spot. All they have to do now is win their three remaining games and that would be it.
I am tired of seeing familiar teams in the Champions League finals this is why I always support teams like Lens to succeed. The club is just two points above Marseille and both teams will not be meeting any too flight club like PSG in their remaining games. Marseille will face strong opposition from LOSC but I think both teams (Lens and Marseille} have an equal opportunity of making it to the Champions League but my preferred team will be Lens.

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May 18, 2023, 08:05:56 PM
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Neymar is again on the news as "the unwanted man" at PSG. There have been so many speculations related to his probable departure this summer. In the recent times there have been an interest by Manchester United to sign him as well. This was new to me because Manchester United's priority right now is to sign a solid centre-forward to play much bigger - Kane most probably. Plus they will need to be ready to spend a lot of money just for his transfer fee as well because Tottenham wouldn't let him go for nothing.

I don't know if Manchester United would be in about spending a great deal of money just on Kane and Neymar transfers.

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May 18, 2023, 09:42:59 PM
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I don't think there is a difference between second and third place for Marseille. In the national championships, there has long been such a situation that there is a title and everything else is unimportant except for the distribution of places for getting into European competitions. Thus, the first four teams no longer have much motivation to show good results and the real struggle will only be between Lille and Rennes, although I'm not sure that getting into the Conference League is a desirable achievement for anyone other than obvious outsiders.
As long as they do as well as they could, if they finish third or second it's exactly the same, I agree with that. I know that many people consider this as a wrong type of thinking but that is true and we should not be shocked about it at all. I know that Marseille will want to be second just in case, but that's not going to be that much of an importance in the end. What these teams need to do is fans should put pressure on the owners to sell the club and become more like PSG, as in richer.

These teams needs to find a way to get a lot more money and I mean a lot more money not just a 20-30 million euro, I mean something that is a lot more and that should be very important. I know that we couldn't really expect them to do just make 100+ million more to even have a chance to compete.

If people put themselves in the place of footballers before whose eyes training/games/training camps merge into one frame, then they will easily understand this attitude. For top football players who play in national teams and in top clubs (which participate in several competitions at once), there is simply no mental and psychic strength to worry about the little things, for them it is a routine and only some milestones like a title or decisive games can cause a surge of adrenaline and motivation.

I don’t think that many clubs can repeat the path of PSG. It would be good if, on the contrary, PSG were curbed in their financial frauds and the competition became more even due to the alignment of the average level.

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May 18, 2023, 10:00:00 PM
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I don't think there is a difference between second and third place for Marseille. In the national championships, there has long been such a situation that there is a title and everything else is unimportant except for the distribution of places for getting into European competitions. Thus, the first four teams no longer have much motivation to show good results and the real struggle will only be between Lille and Rennes, although I'm not sure that getting into the Conference League is a desirable achievement for anyone other than obvious outsiders.
As long as they do as well as they could, if they finish third or second it's exactly the same, I agree with that. I know that many people consider this as a wrong type of thinking but that is true and we should not be shocked about it at all. I know that Marseille will want to be second just in case, but that's not going to be that much of an importance in the end. What these teams need to do is fans should put pressure on the owners to sell the club and become more like PSG, as in richer.

These teams needs to find a way to get a lot more money and I mean a lot more money not just a 20-30 million euro, I mean something that is a lot more and that should be very important. I know that we couldn't really expect them to do just make 100+ million more to even have a chance to compete.

If people put themselves in the place of footballers before whose eyes training/games/training camps merge into one frame, then they will easily understand this attitude. For top football players who play in national teams and in top clubs (which participate in several competitions at once), there is simply no mental and psychic strength to worry about the little things, for them it is a routine and only some milestones like a title or decisive games can cause a surge of adrenaline and motivation.

I don’t think that many clubs can repeat the path of PSG. It would be good if, on the contrary, PSG were curbed in their financial frauds and the competition became more even due to the alignment of the average level.

Isn't it just a question of money? If some sheikh were to decide to buy another club from Ligue 1 and then decide to pump a billion dollars into the squad, why would it not be possible to build a second PSG like club? After all it is about the finances and even if some unknown French club offered a salary of a 100 million or more, players would go there. Mbappe even decided against Real Madrid because of the money...

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May 18, 2023, 10:41:52 PM
 #13707

Neymar is again on the news as "the unwanted man" at PSG. There have been so many speculations related to his probable departure this summer. In the recent times there have been an interest by Manchester United to sign him as well. This was new to me because Manchester United's priority right now is to sign a solid centre-forward to play much bigger - Kane most probably. Plus they will need to be ready to spend a lot of money just for his transfer fee as well because Tottenham wouldn't let him go for nothing.

I don't know if Manchester United would be in about spending a great deal of money just on Kane and Neymar transfers.

Hire a player like Neymar is very much risky for any team and I think with the current situation of Neymar has, any team hires a team player accepted a big risk and should be ready for an injured player who maybe can't have a good performance after he got recovered also Neymar is 31y old and there are not many teams they want to hire a player at this age and this situation.

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May 18, 2023, 10:42:30 PM
 #13708

Neymar is again on the news as "the unwanted man" at PSG. There have been so many speculations related to his probable departure this summer. In the recent times there have been an interest by Manchester United to sign him as well. This was new to me because Manchester United's priority right now is to sign a solid centre-forward to play much bigger - Kane most probably. Plus they will need to be ready to spend a lot of money just for his transfer fee as well because Tottenham wouldn't let him go for nothing.

I don't know if Manchester United would be in about spending a great deal of money just on Kane and Neymar transfers.
Things like this are not too strange because from the previous several seasons it was also like that but with the current contract, they inevitably have to work together.
On the other hand for Neymar to leave also for next season is possible because indeed there are several teams now that are expecting Neymar although he will still hold back if his wages don't match.

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May 19, 2023, 09:38:14 AM
 #13709

Neymar is again on the news as "the unwanted man" at PSG. There have been so many speculations related to his probable departure this summer. In the recent times there have been an interest by Manchester United to sign him as well. This was new to me because Manchester United's priority right now is to sign a solid centre-forward to play much bigger - Kane most probably. Plus they will need to be ready to spend a lot of money just for his transfer fee as well because Tottenham wouldn't let him go for nothing.

I don't know if Manchester United would be in about spending a great deal of money just on Kane and Neymar transfers.

Hire a player like Neymar is very much risky for any team and I think with the current situation of Neymar has, any team hires a team player accepted a big risk and should be ready for an injured player who maybe can't have a good performance after he got recovered also Neymar is 31y old and there are not many teams they want to hire a player at this age and this situation.
I understand Neymar's current situation, he has been injured very often and it has affected his performances. I mean he can keep up his form when he comes back from injury, but it's the absence of him through injury that is actually causing problems. Because after all a team wants to see its players perform optimally and be able to play a full season without experiencing any obstacles.

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May 19, 2023, 10:49:41 AM
 #13710

Lyon vs Monaco

Lyon actually want to play at european competitions next season but seems this target will be hard to realized because with only 3 remaining matches of Ligue 1 i think their chances will be very slim and for Monaco actually i feel dissapoint to their performance because recently they were losing too many points from previous matches and the latest is they were lose from weak team Montpellier and draw from Lille

For team conditions Lyon will losing Dejan Lovren until end of season because of injured but Bradley Barcola will return to play after absense against Clermont last week and both teams have displayed unstable performance during this seasob so actually it's hard to predict the outcomes of this match although i know Monaco has able to win 2 times streak from Lyon and for betting option i was thinking to bet both teams to scores with odds @1.46 because i thought this option is safe bet but besides that in my opinion if we see based on the recent performance from them there is a chances for this match to ended draw

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May 19, 2023, 12:34:53 PM
 #13711

Lyon vs Monaco

Lyon actually want to play at european competitions next season but seems this target will be hard to realized because with only 3 remaining matches of Ligue 1 i think their chances will be very slim and for Monaco actually i feel dissapoint to their performance because recently they were losing too many points from previous matches and the latest is they were lose from weak team Montpellier and draw from Lille

For team conditions Lyon will losing Dejan Lovren until end of season because of injured but Bradley Barcola will return to play after absense against Clermont last week and both teams have displayed unstable performance during this seasob so actually it's hard to predict the outcomes of this match although i know Monaco has able to win 2 times streak from Lyon and for betting option i was thinking to bet both teams to scores with odds @1.46 because i thought this option is safe bet but besides that in my opinion if we see based on the recent performance from them there is a chances for this match to ended draw
Lyon's chance to go to Europe at least to qualify for the Conference League is actually still there, but as you said it's a very small chance. There are even other clubs that have a greater chance of getting that position, namely Rennes. The remaining matches are the problem, because Ligue 1 only has 3 weeks left to play.
Monaco itself is currently still not safe, they still need victory points to lock in their current position and participate in the Europa League next season. LOSC is shadowing them now and LOSC definitely hopes that Monaco will have bad luck in their 3 matches, and that will open up their opportunities even more.

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May 19, 2023, 01:40:14 PM
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Neymar is again on the news as "the unwanted man" at PSG. There have been so many speculations related to his probable departure this summer. In the recent times there have been an interest by Manchester United to sign him as well. This was new to me because Manchester United's priority right now is to sign a solid centre-forward to play much bigger - Kane most probably. Plus they will need to be ready to spend a lot of money just for his transfer fee as well because Tottenham wouldn't let him go for nothing.

I don't know if Manchester United would be in about spending a great deal of money just on Kane and Neymar transfers.
Well, ain't it a shocker? Manchester United going after Neymar and Kane! Talk about a dream team in the making! Now, bear with me here folks. Neymar's got a lot of baggage coming in - injuries, age, and not to forget, a colossal wage demand! I mean, the guy's 31, has been nursing more injuries than I've seen my grandma knit sweaters!

So, United is considering buying an injury-prone star who may not perform at his best after recovery? A curious move, wouldn't you say? And, let's not even start on the fee! Would it be worth it to gamble that kind of money on a maybe? What's your take folks? Is it worth it?

And let's not forget Kane. Tottenham won't let him go for free! So, the question is - can United actually afford to splash that much cash on both of them? Or is this just another media circus designed to keep us glued to the sports channels?

I don't know what signing Neymar would cost right now, but it is probably not going to be pocket cash only. What is the probability that he is getting injured even often more often when playing in the Premier League compared to playing in Ligue 1? The Premier League style is what Neymar hates the most I believe. Referees are not going to protect him from hard tackles and the EPL fans will disrespect him for every dive he takes and for every second he is lying on the ground crying. The Spanish soccer suited him best.

Kane going to Manchester could make sense depending on how much Tottenham wants for him. But Manchester also has Rashford who I would like to be in top shape for a whole season. In my opinion he could also be a guy scoring 20 and more goals if he stays in great condition for a longer period of time.

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May 19, 2023, 02:25:47 PM
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Lyon vs Monaco

Lyon actually want to play at european competitions next season but seems this target will be hard to realized because with only 3 remaining matches of Ligue 1 i think their chances will be very slim and for Monaco actually i feel dissapoint to their performance because recently they were losing too many points from previous matches and the latest is they were lose from weak team Montpellier and draw from Lille

For team conditions Lyon will losing Dejan Lovren until end of season because of injured but Bradley Barcola will return to play after absense against Clermont last week and both teams have displayed unstable performance during this seasob so actually it's hard to predict the outcomes of this match although i know Monaco has able to win 2 times streak from Lyon and for betting option i was thinking to bet both teams to scores with odds @1.46 because i thought this option is safe bet but besides that in my opinion if we see based on the recent performance from them there is a chances for this match to ended draw
The opening match of Ligue 1 this week was immediately presented by one of the big matches and it seems that for Lyon or Monaco this is a match full of prestige from both teams. For lyon this is a revenge match after the second meeting this season Monaco managed to beat them at home, but this time lyon who is the host will have the same chance to beat Monaco. With the absence of Dejan Lovren from the Lyon camp I don't think they are too concerned about this and they are still confident that they can beat Monaco no matter what.

Lyon are aiming for full points at home to be closer to Rennes in the standings and for Monaco they have no other target than securing a place in the Europa League next season. I think the betting odds for these two teams are not much different and I think the handicap bet (-0.25) for Lyon to win is still pretty good with odds @2.02 and that is also an antidote if the game ends in a draw.

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May 19, 2023, 03:35:46 PM
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Hire a player like Neymar is very much risky for any team and I think with the current situation of Neymar has, any team hires a team player accepted a big risk and should be ready for an injured player who maybe can't have a good performance after he got recovered also Neymar is 31y old and there are not many teams they want to hire a player at this age and this situation.
Since he has been hired by PSG and no reason for not to use his service when he is still staying in the club. There have been many rumos were appearing about him but none of these rumors were true.
I have heard that if PSG wants to exchange him for manchester city's player but so far there's no negotiation happens from PSG and manchester city.
Neymar has been also linked to the barcelona and manchester united. It has been said that if neymar was also celebrating the moment when barcelona was winning la liga. There have been many news related to him.

PSG has accepted any consequence that would be coming from him as PSG has been signed him as a player. That's the consequence and PSG has no choice other than accept it.
Just sell him to buy the new player. PSG can do that.

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May 19, 2023, 04:08:54 PM
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I understand Neymar's current situation, he has been injured very often and it has affected his performances. I mean he can keep up his form when he comes back from injury, but it's the absence of him through injury that is actually causing problems. Because after all a team wants to see its players perform optimally and be able to play a full season without experiencing any obstacles.
Ligue1 only leaves three matches left this season and of the three matches that will be faced by PSG, it seems that it will not be so difficult for PSG even without a player like Neymar. Moreover, PSG is currently six points ahead of Lens so that PSG only needs one win and one draw in the three remaining matches to become champions in Ligue1 this season again. So it is also appropriate for Neymar to rest in order to recover himself if he is still injured.

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May 19, 2023, 04:20:59 PM
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I don't think there is a difference between second and third place for Marseille. In the national championships, there has long been such a situation that there is a title and everything else is unimportant except for the distribution of places for getting into European competitions. Thus, the first four teams no longer have much motivation to show good results and the real struggle will only be between Lille and Rennes, although I'm not sure that getting into the Conference League is a desirable achievement for anyone other than obvious outsiders.

Actually there is a difference between 2nd and 3rd places. The team finishing in 2nd place joins the Champions League group stage directly while the other one has to deal with qualification round. We never know what team they would face before the group stage. A tough opponent can eliminate them or even a weaker one can catch them by surprise.

As Lens aren't an experienced team in the Champions League they had better focus on finishing as the 2nd to make some good amount of money just for qualifying for the group stage.

Well, ain't it a shocker? Manchester United going after Neymar and Kane! Talk about a dream team in the making! Now, bear with me here folks. Neymar's got a lot of baggage coming in - injuries, age, and not to forget, a colossal wage demand! I mean, the guy's 31, has been nursing more injuries than I've seen my grandma knit sweaters!

So, United is considering buying an injury-prone star who may not perform at his best after recovery? A curious move, wouldn't you say? And, let's not even start on the fee! Would it be worth it to gamble that kind of money on a maybe? What's your take folks? Is it worth it?

And let's not forget Kane. Tottenham won't let him go for free! So, the question is - can United actually afford to splash that much cash on both of them? Or is this just another media circus designed to keep us glued to the sports channels?

Yeah I agree with you on the injury topic. Neymar is totally an injury-prone player and the EPL might not really be the best place for him indeed. But if he is having some in-team problems then I don't know if he would think about that too much. One time he had problems with Mbappe as Mbappe complained about Neymar's not being a disciplined player. If there are still this kind of issues then he might be okay to any top team that want him.

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May 19, 2023, 04:38:43 PM
 #13717

Lyon vs Monaco

Lyon actually want to play at european competitions next season but seems this target will be hard to realized because with only 3 remaining matches of Ligue 1 i think their chances will be very slim and for Monaco actually i feel dissapoint to their performance because recently they were losing too many points from previous matches and the latest is they were lose from weak team Montpellier and draw from Lille

For team conditions Lyon will losing Dejan Lovren until end of season because of injured but Bradley Barcola will return to play after absense against Clermont last week and both teams have displayed unstable performance during this seasob so actually it's hard to predict the outcomes of this match although i know Monaco has able to win 2 times streak from Lyon and for betting option i was thinking to bet both teams to scores with odds @1.46 because i thought this option is safe bet but besides that in my opinion if we see based on the recent performance from them there is a chances for this match to ended draw

If I refer to the predicted line-up of these two teams, it seems that Manaco will be more inclined to dominate the match. however, if Lyon are able to align with the pattern implemented by Laurent Blanc, they will have no problems facing Monaco in tonight's game. regarding players, referring to several sources that I read. it seems that Dejan Lonver will be the main starter, but for Bradley Barcola his status is in doubt. that means, will be played or not.

On the other hand, several Manaco players are also in doubt for their status in this match. but referring to the last matches of these two teams, Lyon lost against Clermont. while Monaco, could only hold a draw against Lille. well, referring to what you said. I assume that both of these teams will score. however, are the available odds ideal enough @1.46. or you can bet on Over 3+ goals with odds @ 1.93. but if you assume that there will not be 4 goals in this match. you can choose the option Under 3.5 goals with odds of 1.68. my estimation, in this match Monaco will win the match. however, if the other option is betting on Under 3+.

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May 19, 2023, 05:17:36 PM
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I understand Neymar's current situation, he has been injured very often and it has affected his performances. I mean he can keep up his form when he comes back from injury, but it's the absence of him through injury that is actually causing problems. Because after all a team wants to see its players perform optimally and be able to play a full season without experiencing any obstacles.
Ligue1 only leaves three matches left this season and of the three matches that will be faced by PSG, it seems that it will not be so difficult for PSG even without a player like Neymar. Moreover, PSG is currently six points ahead of Lens so that PSG only needs one win and one draw in the three remaining matches to become champions in Ligue1 this season again. So it is also appropriate for Neymar to rest in order to recover himself if he is still injured.
Neymar's injury was so severe that he had to take a long break from each game.
Actually, PSG will be fine without Neymar because they still have Mbappe who can give them an advantage in every game and PSG already has a guarantee that they will win in league 1.

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May 19, 2023, 05:19:17 PM
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Paris Saint Germain will face Auxerre this week, and this game will be a game that if they win then they will claim the title this season. On paper it was very clear that they would win given how weak their opponents were. Now their point difference is 6 from second place, that means 3 additional points are enough for them, because even if they fail in 2 matches they will have superior goal productivity.

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May 19, 2023, 06:16:59 PM
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Paris Saint Germain will face Auxerre this week, and this game will be a game that if they win then they will claim the title this season. On paper it was very clear that they would win given how weak their opponents were. Now their point difference is 6 from second place, that means 3 additional points are enough for them, because even if they fail in 2 matches they will have superior goal productivity.
It doesn't feel like we are getting closer to celebrating the Ligue 1 title this season with PSG. After all, PSG will not waste this opportunity to immediately close the season with the certainty of a trophy in the near future. Auxerre is not a difficult opponent for PSG, moreover Auxerre's position is now at the bottom and only one position away from the relegation zone this season. It's an easy game for PSG and it looks like if we bet on a win PSG will certainly make easy money. Not too confused by predictions, what is certain is that PSG will win this match with at least 3 goals.

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