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September 01, 2022, 11:52:16 PM
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Monaco is incomprehensible, they were VERY strong against PSG and they lost against Troyes.   Cheesy
but Maybe a lot of energy was wasted against psg and not recovered enough after this trip other than playing with 10 players more than half the time. But this is football and a lot of surprises. Be patient mate, I also lost the bet.  Grin
I think it's a natural thing to happen even though it looks like a surprise because before Monaco looked so strong against PSG and then looked weak against a Troyes team who are famous for not being as strong as PSG. On the one hand I was also surprised to see this, but because this is football. So I consider it a natural thing to happen in a match even though the end result is beyond everyone's expectations.

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September 01, 2022, 11:54:45 PM
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Lens are the most interesting team after we have left five weeks behind. They have collected the same points with PSG and Marseille so far without losing a single game. Among these victories, there are ones against strong teams like Rennes and Monaco as well. Maybe those two didn't start very well but they are normally not easy opponents in the end. However I wonder how much Lens can be consistent in this season. Because they seemed determined last season as well but started to perform worse in time.

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September 02, 2022, 02:31:18 AM
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Monaco are really a complete mess. They started the season with a 2-1 Strasbourg win. As you can remember Strasbourg were one of the striking teams of the previous season as they fought for even top 4. Therefore I was feeling positive about Monaco's new season after this start. But all of the matches after that are a complete disaster. They couldn't win a single match in four weeks. I can understand the point loss against PSG of course but they could have won nearly all of the other matches. They just conceded 8 goals in total from Troyes and Lens in home matches. I wonder if they will recover later on like the previous season.
Many had good expectations from them before start of this season and as they started there was chance they could be tough competitor for PSG and Marseille, but suddenly they are doing down like crap which is surely big mess up they lost two matches and both with the score of 1 - 4 and 2 - 4 which mean their defence is terrible, and they need to do good enough work for settle this and their chance of going at top four is also depended on this all can they change their tactics and have something special for rest of the season, or they are going to trail like many other clubs in French League in middle or at bottom with no progressive mind set and nothing serious in this business.

Right now, three teams are at top with same points and PSG surely leading the table with great goal deficit which can widen because no one has ability to cover this like them in rest of the season.

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September 02, 2022, 02:33:20 AM
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PSG once again had a great game, they missed so many clear chances and the game once again could have been 5-6 goals easily if they weren't unlucky a few times. In the end, they managed to get a win and it’s off to the races for them.

People are talking about issues with Mbappe but if you ask me, they are a bit overstating the fact, I mean considering Messi assisted that fastest goal, and then did it again this game too, it is clear that they are looking at each other constantly and they have cheered together very well too, which is why I believe there is no attitude towards each other, hence I believe that they have managed to build a team with good chemistry and issues are just media things.

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September 02, 2022, 03:45:18 AM
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PSG once again had a great game, they missed so many clear chances and the game once again could have been 5-6 goals easily if they weren't unlucky a few times. In the end, they managed to get a win and it’s off to the races for them.
People are talking about issues with Mbappe but if you ask me, they are a bit overstating the fact, I mean considering Messi assisted that fastest goal, and then did it again this game too, it is clear that they are looking at each other constantly and they have cheered together very well too, which is why I believe there is no attitude towards each other, hence I believe that they have managed to build a team with good chemistry and issues are just media things.

Messi's behaviour is friendly with all team players. But his chemistry with Neymar is very good. The main problem for the PSG team is Mbappe. He wants to be the main player of the team. Neymar has been in great form this season, maybe that's why Mbappe is jealous. This is why the rivalry between Mbappe and Neymar is quite visible. Mbappe is a professional player. It is up to him to understand what is more beneficial for the team. If Neymar, Mbappe and Messi have good chemistry, the PSG team will be irresistible to any team. Mbappe should avoid childish behaviour.

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PSG once again had a great game, they missed so many clear chances and the game once again could have been 5-6 goals easily if they weren't unlucky a few times. In the end, they managed to get a win and it’s off to the races for them.
PSG usually have great games because they simply can beat most of clubs in Ligue 1 in most matches. They are over stronger than other clubs there and beating them is just big challenge for clubs in Ligue 1. Challenge for PSG is to achieve good results in Ligue 1 (that they easily can achieve) but still avoid unnecessary injuries and avoid conflicts in their players.

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People are talking about issues with Mbappe but if you ask me, they are a bit overstating the fact, I mean considering Messi assisted that fastest goal, and then did it again this game too, it is clear that they are looking at each other constantly and they have cheered together very well too, which is why I believe there is no attitude towards each other, hence I believe that they have managed to build a team with good chemistry and issues are just media things.
Mbappe gradually accept that he must be friendly with other team mates for club achievement as well as his personal ambition. As a single player, he can not bring the club to titles especially in Champions League and at the end, titles for the club will also helps him to achieve his personal things.

Messi has changed his style and in this seaskn, he has adapted better in PSG squad but personally he changed the way he shots. Messi now does not shot with too much power but he tries to shot at corners and with more difficulty for goalkeepers to save his finishes.

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September 02, 2022, 07:53:32 AM
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PSG once again had a great game, they missed so many clear chances and the game once again could have been 5-6 goals easily if they weren't unlucky a few times. In the end, they managed to get a win and it’s off to the races for them.
PSG usually have great games because they simply can beat most of clubs in Ligue 1 in most matches. They are over stronger than other clubs there and beating them is just big challenge for clubs in Ligue 1. Challenge for PSG is to achieve good results in Ligue 1 (that they easily can achieve) but still avoid unnecessary injuries and avoid conflicts in their players.
This is a certainty that happens because it would be very funny if they were with players who could be said to be above average but couldn't do that.
Their conditions are much better than the clubs in Ligue 1, their Players, Strengths and Financials are so far superior that winning in Ligue 1 will only be considered as something that is not something to be proud of for them.

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September 02, 2022, 08:31:53 AM
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Messi has changed his style and in this seaskn, he has adapted better in PSG squad but personally he changed the way he shots. Messi now does not shot with too much power but he tries to shot at corners and with more difficulty for goalkeepers to save his finishes.

Messi has completely changed his style of play. Looking at his gameplay now, he seems to be primarily a midfielder. And he is more comfortable assisting than scoring. He may not be able to score too many goals playing in such a style, but PSG will benefit greatly from it. And PSG's overall gameplay will improve further. Mbappe and Neymar will have more chances to score. However, Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are world-class players in all three. If the bonding between them is good and their relationship is friendly, then they will be able to perform better together.

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September 02, 2022, 09:52:07 AM
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Monaco is incomprehensible, they were VERY strong against PSG and they lost against Troyes.   Cheesy
but Maybe a lot of energy was wasted against psg and not recovered enough after this trip other than playing with 10 players more than half the time. But this is football and a lot of surprises. Be patient mate, I also lost the bet.  Grin

I think you should try to look at two different games before making a judgment.
At the time of monaco against psg, they used a defensive strategy with a 5-3-2 formation pattern that's why psg had difficulty breaking down the monaco defense in that match, the psg squad had many opportunities but failed to maximize them into a goal.
Well, at the time of Monaco versus Troyes, Monaco used a 3-4-3 formation pattern, with a 3-4-3 formation Monaco aiming for a win against Troyes.
Monaco coach took the initiative to get the perfect three points.
However, it is unfortunate that the red card incident cost Monaco, and it was very profitable for the Troyes to turn things into their advantage.

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PSG once again had a great game, they missed so many clear chances and the game once again could have been 5-6 goals easily if they weren't unlucky a few times. In the end, they managed to get a win and it’s off to the races for them.

People are talking about issues with Mbappe but if you ask me, they are a bit overstating the fact, I mean considering Messi assisted that fastest goal, and then did it again this game too, it is clear that they are looking at each other constantly and they have cheered together very well too, which is why I believe there is no attitude towards each other, hence I believe that they have managed to build a team with good chemistry and issues are just media things.

The problems between Neymar and Mbappe have been confirmed by all parties, what does the media have to do with this, which only told/followed this? I can’t say anything about Messi, but based on his game, he can hardly demand any special treatment for himself, since it is obvious that now he is far from the top and, due to his age, will not return to it.

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Messi has completely changed his style of play. Looking at his gameplay now, he seems to be primarily a midfielder. And he is more comfortable assisting than scoring. He may not be able to score too many goals playing in such a style, but PSG will benefit greatly from it. And PSG's overall gameplay will improve further. Mbappe and Neymar will have more chances to score. However, Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are world-class players in all three. If the bonding between them is good and their relationship is friendly, then they will be able to perform better together.
Now messi is starting to get a different role at PSG, when previously at Barcelona he was a target man on the front lines but now he is starting to adjust his style of play as expected by his coach for helping attack, the decision to change the style of play I don't think is an absolute decision from messi because after all the main striker position has been owned by mbappe and of course the coach might want messi to play a little backwards, even so messi is still messi, in whatever position he plays will certainly create a lot of threats to the opponent's defense in a match.

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Messi has changed his style and in this seaskn, he has adapted better in PSG squad but personally he changed the way he shots. Messi now does not shot with too much power but he tries to shot at corners and with more difficulty for goalkeepers to save his finishes.

It is not easy for a player to adapt to a team that have a completely different system after playing for a certain team for so many years. It doesn't matter even if this player is a legend like Messi. If you remember the previous season he had big problems at the beginning. People started to criticize him very early but it wasn't fair of course. After he took his time we saw a very visible improvement in his performance but it was still not at the level PSG wanted to see.

But now he seems to have adapted completely. The main reason must be of course having amazing teammates like Mbappe and Neymar right beside him. Messi has always needed companions beside him to play more comfortable as you know. The best example is that he had great teammates like Xavi and Iniesta at Barcelona many years ago and Messi reached this level faster thanks to them. If one of Mbappe and Neymar leaves PSG I think Messi might think of leaving seriously too. Especially Neymar's departure might affect him deeply as he is the player who Messi gets along with the most in the team.

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September 02, 2022, 05:08:04 PM
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Messi has completely changed his style of play. Looking at his gameplay now, he seems to be primarily a midfielder. And he is more comfortable assisting than scoring. He may not be able to score too many goals playing in such a style, but PSG will benefit greatly from it. And PSG's overall gameplay will improve further. Mbappe and Neymar will have more chances to score. However, Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are world-class players in all three. If the bonding between them is good and their relationship is friendly, then they will be able to perform better together.
Now messi is starting to get a different role at PSG, when previously at Barcelona he was a target man on the front lines but now he is starting to adjust his style of play as expected by his coach for helping attack, the decision to change the style of play I don't think is an absolute decision from messi because after all the main striker position has been owned by mbappe and of course the coach might want messi to play a little backwards, even so messi is still messi, in whatever position he plays will certainly create a lot of threats to the opponent's defense in a match.

Messi is a player who can adapt to any position. At Barcelona, Messi has done well as the main striker. And scored a lot of goals. He was a regular scorer at Barcelona. But looking at Messi's performance at PSG now, he seems to be a midfielder. And assisting is his main responsibility. He is able to fulfill this responsibility very well. PSG will be stronger if Mbappe's performance improves.
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PSG once again had a great game, they missed so many clear chances and the game once again could have been 5-6 goals easily if they weren't unlucky a few times. In the end, they managed to get a win and it’s off to the races for them.

People are talking about issues with Mbappe but if you ask me, they are a bit overstating the fact, I mean considering Messi assisted that fastest goal, and then did it again this game too, it is clear that they are looking at each other constantly and they have cheered together very well too, which is why I believe there is no attitude towards each other, hence I believe that they have managed to build a team with good chemistry and issues are just media things.

The problems between Neymar and Mbappe have been confirmed by all parties, what does the media have to do with this, which only told/followed this? I can’t say anything about Messi, but based on his game, he can hardly demand any special treatment for himself, since it is obvious that now he is far from the top and, due to his age, will not return to it.

You are right to a certain degree, but I would argue that he still belongs to the players who play the best assists ever. Mbappe's turbo goal after 8 seconds is a classic example: the pass is exactly where it has to come down and Mbappe just needs to finish. He still creates great chances and he can still score in a much smarter way then the average player. He hardly uses force.

I wouldn't say that he is the same he used to be, but he can still play in the best leagues and against the best teams. I would not be surprised if he scores some important goals not only in Ligue 1, but especially in the champions league or even the world cup.

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Monaco are really a complete mess. They started the season with a 2-1 Strasbourg win. As you can remember Strasbourg were one of the striking teams of the previous season as they fought for even top 4. Therefore I was feeling positive about Monaco's new season after this start. But all of the matches after that are a complete disaster. They couldn't win a single match in four weeks. I can understand the point loss against PSG of course but they could have won nearly all of the other matches. They just conceded 8 goals in total from Troyes and Lens in home matches. I wonder if they will recover later on like the previous season.
i dont understand the decision of that penalty, its a really soft contact if any and isnt even anywhere near the ball + yellow card on that?? same with neymar penalty few days ago, if ref awards this kind of shit behavior with penalty it isnt gonna help the league. the second yellow wasn't even a foul, the ref must have some kind of grudge against maripan.
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The problems between Neymar and Mbappe have been confirmed by all parties, what does the media have to do with this, which only told/followed this? I can’t say anything about Messi, but based on his game, he can hardly demand any special treatment for himself, since it is obvious that now he is far from the top and, due to his age, will not return to it.
Are we sure about this though? I mean we are talking about media because we "read" about these deals by media, and then we see Mbappe saying something to Neymar during penalty and then Neymar keep shooting, and media says "mbappe wanted to shoot but Neymar ignored him and rejected him", well what if Mbappe just said "shoot to his right, the keeper can't save it" or something like that? We do not know; it is just media speculation.

If you can find me a video or a piece by either player themselves saying something bad about each other then I would agree. But so far, all the things that we read or "seen" were all by media and not really the real thing because there is no real proof.

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September 02, 2022, 09:36:57 PM
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Messi is a player who can adapt to any position. At Barcelona, Messi has done well as the main striker. And scored a lot of goals. He was a regular scorer at Barcelona. But looking at Messi's performance at PSG now, he seems to be a midfielder. And assisting is his main responsibility. He is able to fulfill this responsibility very well. PSG will be stronger if Mbappe's performance improves.

During his time with Paris Saint-Germain Lionel Messi contributed more as an Assist because as you said Messi's way of playing was more about helping Mbappe and Neymar to score goals and bringing PSG to lead the match. Messi is a multi-talented player, I like the way he plays especially in terms of passing to teammates, it looks pretty perfect.

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Messi has completely changed his style of play. Looking at his gameplay now, he seems to be primarily a midfielder. And he is more comfortable assisting than scoring. He may not be able to score too many goals playing in such a style, but PSG will benefit greatly from it. And PSG's overall gameplay will improve further. Mbappe and Neymar will have more chances to score. However, Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are world-class players in all three. If the bonding between them is good and their relationship is friendly, then they will be able to perform better together.
Now messi is starting to get a different role at PSG, when previously at Barcelona he was a target man on the front lines but now he is starting to adjust his style of play as expected by his coach for helping attack, the decision to change the style of play I don't think is an absolute decision from messi because after all the main striker position has been owned by mbappe and of course the coach might want messi to play a little backwards, even so messi is still messi, in whatever position he plays will certainly create a lot of threats to the opponent's defense in a match.

Messi is a player who can adapt to any position. At Barcelona, Messi has done well as the main striker. And scored a lot of goals. He was a regular scorer at Barcelona. But looking at Messi's performance at PSG now, he seems to be a midfielder. And assisting is his main responsibility. He is able to fulfill this responsibility very well. PSG will be stronger if Mbappe's performance improves.

Messi has a different role in PSG plus now he isnt the main superstar in the team. There are two more superstars Neymar and Mbappe so its hard to put them all togheter no matter how easy it looks. Messi also needed a year to adopt to PSG gamestyle and finally we have the old Messi

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September 02, 2022, 10:23:52 PM
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It is still not the old Messi completely actually. But you all have a point that Messi is much better compared to last season. Messi can be his old version only if he returns to Barcelona but I don't know if he is thinking of it before his retirement. This is just the version of Messi which is close to his old performances. He needs to be consistent in the Champions League especially. Maybe drops in his form don't affect the team significantly in the Ligue 1 matches because of not having a real challenge. But the Champions League wouldn't forgive them if PSG don't play strongly as a team.

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September 02, 2022, 10:47:53 PM
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It is still not the old Messi completely actually. But you all have a point that Messi is much better compared to last season. Messi can be his old version only if he returns to Barcelona but I don't know if he is thinking of it before his retirement. This is just the version of Messi which is close to his old performances. He needs to be consistent in the Champions League especially. Maybe drops in his form don't affect the team significantly in the Ligue 1 matches because of not having a real challenge. But the Champions League wouldn't forgive them if PSG don't play strongly as a team.

Although Messi's age is old for a professional soccer player, Messi's stamina and speed have also decreased considerably. But Messi still has technique
and passing accuracy a very high, so Messi is one of the star players who can lift PSG's performance. Especially this season, Messi has seen more of
an important role than the previous season. Maybe this season Messi is starting to adapt well, I hope Messi can also contribute to PSG when he plays
in the Champions League.

Moreover, the Champions League trophy is PSG's main target this season, but as long as Messi can work well with Neymar and Mbappe it should be
very difficult for other teams to stop PSG. Unfortunately Messi, Mbappe and Neymar often play selfishly when playing, especially when PSG are in
a position behind. I hope Galtier is different from Pochettino and can control the star players at PSG. We'll see if Messi this season can help PSG win
the Champions League trophy or not, we will be able to start seeing PSG's performance in the Champions League next week. I really hope PSG can show
a better performance in the Champions League this season.

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