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August 16, 2022, 01:34:59 AM
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Certainly looking forward to the Champions League games at this point as this is what really counts in my opinion when we talk about PSG. I wonder for how long the sheikhs might keep trying to win the CL or whether owning PSG pays off for them anyway. Maybe through the marketing effect for other companies they own, I have no idea. It seems that they are still making money despite signing these crazy contracts with Messi and alike.

I am also looking forward to seeing PSG's performance in the Champions League. PSG looks more stable this season than last season. Because Neymar and Messi's chemistry seems even better now. At the same time, if Mbappe can return to form, PSG will be even stronger. PSG is strong as a team. Boarding between players is now very good. If Galtier organizes his match strategy well, PSG can play well in the Champions League.

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August 16, 2022, 09:21:00 AM
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Certainly looking forward to the Champions League games at this point as this is what really counts in my opinion when we talk about PSG. I wonder for how long the sheikhs might keep trying to win the CL or whether owning PSG pays off for them anyway. Maybe through the marketing effect for other companies they own, I have no idea. It seems that they are still making money despite signing these crazy contracts with Messi and alike.
I am also looking forward to seeing PSG's performance in the Champions League. PSG looks more stable this season than last season. Because Neymar and Messi's chemistry seems even better now. At the same time, if Mbappe can return to form, PSG will be even stronger. PSG is strong as a team. Boarding between players is now very good. If Galtier organizes his match strategy well, PSG can play well in the Champions League.
Recently, we have few things are surely going to happen in coming months if PSG fail to win Champions League then sheikhs are going to crazy, and they will sell this club because they are already fed-up and have mind which I read few weeks back in a magazine they are not happy as they are paying insane salaries to world's best players and investing heavily but still have no desired results.

With this warning now I am checking some change in few big players, and they are doing their best to keep their place and having required results for this season players attitude is also big issue here just because of this few big coaches reject this job offer and want to stay away from this club which is going without any discipline and management having different rules for all players.

Now ball is in Galtier and players side how they have done in this season and want to stay like this lucrative, or they are going to have big changes in coming season because most chances new owners are not going to give incentives like these to anyone.

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August 16, 2022, 09:26:22 AM
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After just two rounds from the start of Ligue 1, you find PSG in the first spot alone as usual (without considering the delayed game between Lyon and Lorient of course).
We always heard how PSG is good because of money, picking top players...etc but what happens all the time is that the other teams are just failing and missing points vs weaker teams. Brest 1-1 Marseille was the newest thing but Lille, Rennes, Lens weren't any better..
PSG will play vs Monaco and Lille next. If it wins against them, I suppose by the 11th round (vs Marseille), the difference will be 10 points (again).

Given the Neymar-Mbappe conflict (I don’t believe it’s over), PSG will lose in quality of play during the season and especially after the World Cup (if someone starts to envy someone over its results), but this applies more to the Champions League. In the championship, their position is too strong and it makes no sense to calculate the indicators after different rounds, since the result can already be said to be known.

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August 16, 2022, 09:50:45 AM
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The battle of egos between PSG forwards is nothing new, nor is it likely to come to an end soon. This is just the beginning of the season and we have already started to see the effect of that contract. I was waiting for the right time for this feud to show on the pitch. I feel the contract given to Mbappe is time bombing that would explode and leave PSG plummeting. The Management and coach needs to step in to resolve it now. Before it shows again during crucial games.
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August 16, 2022, 10:10:32 AM
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I am also looking forward to seeing PSG's performance in the Champions League. PSG looks more stable this season than last season. Because Neymar and Messi's chemistry seems even better now. At the same time, if Mbappe can return to form, PSG will be even stronger. PSG is strong as a team. Boarding between players is now very good. If Galtier organizes his match strategy well, PSG can play well in the Champions League.

For some reason, I do not believe that Galtier will be able to create a miracle in PSG. It’s hasty to draw conclusions from Ligue 1 matches, because PSG almost always dominates there and they don’t have worthy rivals, it's not very well. Another thing is the Champions League, where the rivals are much stronger and we can say that PSG can only temper their character in the Champions League. It is strange that it was Galtier who became the coach of PSG, there are so many experienced specialists, but they chose him.

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August 16, 2022, 11:44:40 AM
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The battle of egos between PSG forwards is nothing new, nor is it likely to come to an end soon. This is just the beginning of the season and we have already started to see the effect of that contract. I was waiting for the right time for this feud to show on the pitch. I feel the contract given to Mbappe is time bombing that would explode and leave PSG plummeting. The Management and coach needs to step in to resolve it now. Before it shows again during crucial games.
If they are professionals of course they will maintain this chemistry well, even if the feud continues that PSG in Ligue 1 will still be a strong team. I personally don't see any feud that will cause division because they are all professional players, if it will be a ticking time bomb then I think the management and the coach will certainly understand the situation better. By the way, in these two early matches PSG got very promising results to be consistent with big wins, but I still hope that PSG can be consistent with clean sheets.

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August 16, 2022, 12:32:16 PM
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Given the Neymar-Mbappe conflict (I don’t believe it’s over), PSG will lose in quality of play during the season and especially after the World Cup (if someone starts to envy someone over its results), but this applies more to the Champions League. In the championship, their position is too strong and it makes no sense to calculate the indicators after different rounds, since the result can already be said to be known.
Neymar will have to leave in the end because he is older than Mbappe and PSG need Mbappe for long future. However, PSG has a risk that Mbappe will not stay with them too long. I believe that in the end of this contract, he will move to Real Madrid if Real still has interest in him.

Anyway, PSG need those players play together with Messi in order to win their first Champions League. Neymar has many disadvantage than Mbappe and I don't believe he will win in this conflict. In general, Mbappe can have more contribution in goals than Neymar but with support from Messi, Neymar won't be beaten too easily. I don't think too many players will like a player like Mbappe.

The battle of egos between PSG forwards is nothing new, nor is it likely to come to an end soon.

I feel the contract given to Mbappe is time bombing that would explode and leave PSG plummeting. The Management and coach needs to step in to resolve it now. Before it shows again during crucial games.
Mbappe does not have bad thinking about Neymar because of unprofessional of Neymar in recent seasons but it is also because he thinks his importance in PSG becomes bigger with time. PSG has responsibility here by giving Mbappe too many privileges.

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After just two rounds from the start of Ligue 1, you find PSG in the first spot alone as usual (without considering the delayed game between Lyon and Lorient of course).
We always heard how PSG is good because of money, picking top players...etc but what happens all the time is that the other teams are just failing and missing points vs weaker teams. Brest 1-1 Marseille was the newest thing but Lille, Rennes, Lens weren't any better..
PSG will play vs Monaco and Lille next. If it wins against them, I suppose by the 11th round (vs Marseille), the difference will be 10 points (again).

I think most likely that will be the scenario but I don't know if it will be after the 11th round or further after that round,the end result most probably will be just that,PSG leading comfortably from the second place.This is because PSG as we all know has quite some superstars in their team and they are from another world in terms of quality compared to all the other teams of Ligue 1.The PSG team is in fight for the Champions League title and that is their main objective because they already are Champions of Ligue 1.

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August 16, 2022, 01:25:13 PM
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I think most likely that will be the scenario but I don't know if it will be after the 11th round or further after that round,the end result most probably will be just that,PSG leading comfortably from the second place.This is because PSG as we all know has quite some superstars in their team and they are from another world in terms of quality compared to all the other teams of Ligue 1.The PSG team is in fight for the Champions League title and that is their main objective because they already are Champions of Ligue 1.
Neymar understands his situation now. He even has worse record than Cavani in the past when he conflicted with Cavani with another penalty-gate. Cavani already as legendary player of PSG when Neymar came but Neymar now is not considered a legendary player in PSG. He does  not have bad statistics after 5 seasons there but he does not meet expectation of the club.

Anyway, PSG need all best players for a general objective, to win Champions League. It is painful to see their star players trigger conflicts through Ligue 1 matches. That's unnecessary and harmful for general strength and unite of the club. In Champions League, if you don't play with your best, you won't be able to win it.

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Anyway, PSG need all best players for a general objective, to win Champions League. It is painful to see their star players trigger conflicts through Ligue 1 matches. That's unnecessary and harmful for general strength and unite of the club. In Champions League, if you don't play with your best, you won't be able to win it.

If PSG wants to do well in the Champions League, they must resolve the conflict between their star players. The pair of Messi and Neymar are playing brilliantly, but Mbappe is unable to cope with them due to conflict. If the chemistry between this trio is good then we will see PSG's attack in a stronger form. Mbappe should develop a friendly relationship with Messi and Neymar. It will also be good for Mbappe's own career. Messi is very helpful, if Mbappe can adapt to Messi then I believe Mbappe will be able to score more goals.

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August 16, 2022, 03:24:02 PM
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Anyway, PSG need all best players for a general objective, to win Champions League. It is painful to see their star players trigger conflicts through Ligue 1 matches. That's unnecessary and harmful for general strength and unite of the club. In Champions League, if you don't play with your best, you won't be able to win it.

It is not enough with the best players that they must also have a strong mentality. Neymar and Mbappe are good players but they lack the collaboration and mentality to fight together. It proved they were at odds to this day. But I see Neymar's ability at the Beginning of this League is pretty good. He made 3 goals in 2 games. I think the special rights PSG have given Mbappe make him feel more valuable. So I think it's PSG's fault. It should be that all players have rights but nothing superfluous. That would create a social gap in the team.

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August 16, 2022, 03:40:38 PM
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I am also looking forward to seeing PSG's performance in the Champions League. PSG looks more stable this season than last season. Because Neymar and Messi's chemistry seems even better now. At the same time, if Mbappe can return to form, PSG will be even stronger. PSG is strong as a team. Boarding between players is now very good. If Galtier organizes his match strategy well, PSG can play well in the Champions League.
For some reason, I do not believe that Galtier will be able to create a miracle in PSG. It’s hasty to draw conclusions from Ligue 1 matches, because PSG almost always dominates there and they don’t have worthy rivals, it's not very well. Another thing is the Champions League, where the rivals are much stronger and we can say that PSG can only temper their character in the Champions League. It is strange that it was Galtier who became the coach of PSG, there are so many experienced specialists, but they chose him.

You may not believe it, but it is not impossible. Galtier broke PSG's dominance in Ligue 1 and led Lille to the title. Lille's title win was also almost impossible. Christophe Galtier made it possible. Now PSG has a lot of talented players in the squad, if the players are able to perform well from their position, surely PSG will play well in the Champions League as well. However, we are still not sure about this. But I believe Christophe Galtier has the potential.

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August 16, 2022, 03:53:37 PM
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Anyway, PSG need all best players for a general objective, to win Champions League. It is painful to see their star players trigger conflicts through Ligue 1 matches. That's unnecessary and harmful for general strength and unite of the club. In Champions League, if you don't play with your best, you won't be able to win it.

It is not enough with the best players that they must also have a strong mentality. Neymar and Mbappe are good players but they lack the collaboration and mentality to fight together. It proved they were at odds to this day. But I see Neymar's ability at the Beginning of this League is pretty good. He made 3 goals in 2 games. I think the special rights PSG have given Mbappe make him feel more valuable. So I think it's PSG's fault. It should be that all players have rights but nothing superfluous. That would create a social gap in the team.
You are absolutely right. Neymar and Mbappe are undoubtedly very good players But there is a lot of emotional turmoil among them at present. It goes without saying that they are not on very good terms at present I think this is the kind of personal distance that PSG fans never want to see on the field of play At the end of the day, football fans want to be gifted with a good match. A good match is only when there is a good relationship between the players Hopefully the emotional turmoil between Neymar and Mbappe will be resolved soon
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August 16, 2022, 04:22:56 PM
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I read Mbappe had a plea for Neymar to leave him to the penalty duties and Neymar refused. Kylian Mbappe called on the board to sell Neymar and when Neymar found out he was offended by that. Also Kylian Mbappe needs to drop those shoulders alse he will fail.
They are both good player's that can win whatever they face but they seem not to be matured in the slightest way. They should both take good look at Lionel Messi to learn how it goes. Galtier says he wants Neymar around and not Icardi I'm keen to see how they build bonds once again on the pitch.

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August 16, 2022, 04:51:17 PM
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I read Mbappe had a plea for Neymar to leave him to the penalty duties and Neymar refused. Kylian Mbappe called on the board to sell Neymar and when Neymar found out he was offended by that. Also Kylian Mbappe needs to drop those shoulders alse he will fail.
They are both good player's that can win whatever they face but they seem not to be matured in the slightest way. They should both take good look at Lionel Messi to learn how it goes. Galtier says he wants Neymar around and not Icardi I'm keen to see how they build bonds once again on the pitch.
Actually in this case it is quite unfortunate for the attitude shown by Mbappe, maybe some people say that this is normal because he must be quite annoyed with the missed first penalty, but asking to come back with a condition he is upset is clearly not an option.
Even if you see there is a fan who says openly on social media that PSG now belongs to Mbappe alone and interestingly Neymar likes the tweet.

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August 16, 2022, 06:03:49 PM
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I read Mbappe had a plea for Neymar to leave him to the penalty duties and Neymar refused. Kylian Mbappe called on the board to sell Neymar and when Neymar found out he was offended by that. Also Kylian Mbappe needs to drop those shoulders alse he will fail.
They are both good player's that can win whatever they face but they seem not to be matured in the slightest way. They should both take good look at Lionel Messi to learn how it goes. Galtier says he wants Neymar around and not Icardi I'm keen to see how they build bonds once again on the pitch.
Actually in this case it is quite unfortunate for the attitude shown by Mbappe, maybe some people say that this is normal because he must be quite annoyed with the missed first penalty, but asking to come back with a condition he is upset is clearly not an option.
Even if you see there is a fan who says openly on social media that PSG now belongs to Mbappe alone and interestingly Neymar likes the tweet.
I actually never doubted that Mbappe is one of the best players at the moment,
but with the attitude shown on the pitch like that I think it's a shame,
he really looks selfish and of course that's not good for the team

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August 16, 2022, 09:18:05 PM
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Anyway, PSG need all best players for a general objective, to win Champions League. It is painful to see their star players trigger conflicts through Ligue 1 matches. That's unnecessary and harmful for general strength and unite of the club. In Champions League, if you don't play with your best, you won't be able to win it.
It is not enough with the best players that they must also have a strong mentality. Neymar and Mbappe are good players but they lack the collaboration and mentality to fight together. It proved they were at odds to this day. But I see Neymar's ability at the Beginning of this League is pretty good. He made 3 goals in 2 games. I think the special rights PSG have given Mbappe make him feel more valuable. So I think it's PSG's fault. It should be that all players have rights but nothing superfluous. That would create a social gap in the team.
I do agree that there is this underlying problem there. Mbappe thinks that he is the best player and maybe he is right, but Messi and Neymar comes from a long life of being amazing players, and instead of trying to act like he is the best player, Mbappe should try to learn more from his elders.

Neymar and Messi can still play amazingly and does, and Mbappe could learn so much from that wisdom. Instead, he is trying to lead the team and wants everyone to follow him as the leader and the best player and worship him. Keeping PSG hostage for that insane salary is another proof of that, he thinks he is invincible and PSG just gave him to keys as well.
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August 16, 2022, 09:26:16 PM
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It is not enough with the best players that they must also have a strong mentality. Neymar and Mbappe are good players but they lack the collaboration and mentality to fight together. It proved they were at odds to this day. But I see Neymar's ability at the Beginning of this League is pretty good. He made 3 goals in 2 games. I think the special rights PSG have given Mbappe make him feel more valuable. So I think it's PSG's fault. It should be that all players have rights but nothing superfluous. That would create a social gap in the team.
That's how PSG convinced Mbappe to stay and sign his new contract because otherwise he would have been at Real Madrid this season. To be honest sometimes I find him very selfish but he has good performances as a striker but if this keeps happening then PSG are the most disadvantaged team because the star players don't fit in.

I see Messi is freer to play without Mbappe, the same thing happened to Neymar. Even when I saw PSG win games when all three played, then the performance of one or two of these players was not very good. It must have been different when Barcelona formed the MSN trio, it's amazing because Messi knows how to pamper his team-mates.

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August 16, 2022, 10:36:59 PM
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Anyway, PSG need all best players for a general objective, to win Champions League. It is painful to see their star players trigger conflicts through Ligue 1 matches. That's unnecessary and harmful for general strength and unite of the club. In Champions League, if you don't play with your best, you won't be able to win it.

It is not enough with the best players that they must also have a strong mentality. Neymar and Mbappe are good players but they lack the collaboration and mentality to fight together. It proved they were at odds to this day. But I see Neymar's ability at the Beginning of this League is pretty good. He made 3 goals in 2 games. I think the special rights PSG have given Mbappe make him feel more valuable. So I think it's PSG's fault. It should be that all players have rights but nothing superfluous. That would create a social gap in the team.
Looking at the other side of this story on the issues growing between Neymar and Mbape,it can in other words bring success to the team,because the both players will have a competition between them which will make them thrive towards getting more goals individually,and it will help the team.They will both be fighting for who will have the highest goal,so I see that the rivalry between them will inturn bring good result.
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August 17, 2022, 03:19:05 AM
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After just two rounds from the start of Ligue 1, you find PSG in the first spot alone as usual (without considering the delayed game between Lyon and Lorient of course).
We always heard how PSG is good because of money, picking top players...etc but what happens all the time is that the other teams are just failing and missing points vs weaker teams. Brest 1-1 Marseille was the newest thing but Lille, Rennes, Lens weren't any better..
PSG will play vs Monaco and Lille next. If it wins against them, I suppose by the 11th round (vs Marseille), the difference will be 10 points (again).

Reading about all the rumors of bustups between their stars now I'm even wondering if it's real, or if it's not even a thing that rivals are trying to play up.

Monaco and Lille better try and win their games otherwise we're going to have a boring season yet again.

btw snipie aren't you playing the Champions League pool? PSG picks maybe? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5408229.msg60662315#msg60662315

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