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Author Topic: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1)  (Read 168247 times)
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August 07, 2024, 11:05:59 AM
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I think Mbappé was very comfortable at Paris Saint-Germain. He had achieved everything he wanted. The team mobilized all their resources for him to stay in France. If you want the player who will replace him to be more comfortable, they need to give the club to him. All they did was not give Mbappé the keys to the club, the president did everything for him. When he did not want to stay, they could not force him to stay and he joined Real Madrid for free. I think Paris Saint-Germain is one of the best in the world in providing all kinds of opportunities to their players.
I agree, PSG management done everything for keeping Kylian Mbappé here with he was also having VIP treatment just because of this we have few problems as well but still they were happy with this but at the end, he was feeling not comfortable and also want to win big trophies so he decides about his future and having contract with Real Madrid now all eyes are set on his this decision and after shocks of this transfer as well.

PSG is having strong control here in Ligue 1 but sadly in last one decade they fail to win Champions League just because of this we watch huge investments and many star players as well but things not working now they are having new strategy and working with experienced Luis Enrique hopefully this will work, and they will be able to have their dream come true under this new coach.

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August 07, 2024, 11:33:28 AM
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PSG would probably continue to dominate the Ligue 1. Because there is no serious threat against him. They are rich and they can't be matched with any other team in squad strength. I'm saying it despite losing Mbappe. Because he wasn't the only talented player in the team. His place can also be filled sooner or later. They just want to make sure who would be more sensible considering their cost to them too.

For example Napoli wanted too much for Osimhen.  Sad  130 million euros? It is nonsense for a player who has a big injury history. He is a good striker normally but he isn't worth that much I think.
A lot of players can be transferred for 130 million Euros. Also, when we consider the fee they will pay for the contract, we should expect Messi, Ronaldo or Mbappe success from a player who costs the team so much. We see that this high transfer fee scares the teams who want to transfer Osimhen. They are probably right about this. It is obvious that they can get a few other players instead of Osimhen.

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August 07, 2024, 12:07:54 PM
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With how the Ligue 1 has been all these years all about PSG can the other teams find a way to cause that big shocker like the way it happened at the Bundesliga where we saw Bayer Leverkusen who dominated the other teams including the back to back champions Bayern Munich, it was a season to always remember.
In the Ligue 1 we have the likes of Marseille, Monaco, Lille and some other able clubs that can go toe to toe with PSG but every season we see them performing poorly like they're not up to the task in taking care of business, what are we to expect this coming season because to me I don't think PSG are going to have an easy season when the league kicks off, it would be a tough one, but the question is which club is going to step up to take that responsibility of battling it out against PSG and equally be crowned champions of Ligue 1?🤔

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August 07, 2024, 12:43:09 PM
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In that year, there were 3 top world-class players that PSG got:
Neymar, Mbappe, and Messi

2 of them became parts of top expensive transfers. However, they only succeeded in the domestic French League, while in the UCL? They failed and were not able to reach the final even when there were three of them.

PSG's front line now relies on Randal Kolo Muani and Gonçalo Ramos, they are actually quite strong, but not top players. For Jaoa Neves, whether he will be played as the main defensive midfielder or not, because Ugarte is still in the club, and more DM are there.

Because based on the latest information, while Man United has withdrawn their bid for Ugarte.

Source: Manchester United withdrew from signing Manuel Ugarte!
It's tiring if we keep talking about the champions league on PSG and in the end they are just clowns in the competition. No matter how strong they are and how many players they bring in, the results will still be very difficult for them to get. On the other hand, if they can't find something that can change their habits, then it is certain that they will only succeed in Ligue 1.

Seeing Ugarte's situation, it is likely that Joao Neves will be played as a central midfielder with Vitinha and Fabian Ruiz so in this case Luis Enrique will try a new formation using 4 midfielders. I think Manchester United's withdrawal for Ugarte will not disturb the atmosphere in the PSG dressing room and as long as Luis Enrique can manage it well, there will be nothing to doubt anymore.
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August 07, 2024, 02:22:27 PM
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~snip~

You are wrong PSG returning to good days doesn't mean they should hire super expensive players like Messi and Neymar again. They already have a good coach who can help this team to have good performance and he can help PSG to hire better players instead of just hiring superstar players.
I think time after time with Enrique, PSG can have a good time and get progress and improved.  s

Of course Enrique's a good coach. However, coaching alone won't win the Champions League. PSG needs stars, it's true. Mbappe's departure leaves a vacuum. He instills fear in opponents, not simply goals. Good but not great last season. Decent won't compete with the big boys. Tactics matter, but without execution, you're playing chess with pawns versus kings. PSG needs a statement signing. A player who scores and changes the game

Football's a business. Money, fame, and winning matter. It takes talent, strategy, and luck to win. With strategy but no aptitude, Enrique is a mechanic without a car. PSG must market aggressively. Find that missing piece, then let Enrique work. Respect Enrique's ideology. But philosophy doesn't win awards. They play. PSG must balance the books, sign a superstar, and let Enrique build his team. This is their only chance to stay relevant in Europe

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August 07, 2024, 04:30:39 PM
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PSG is one of their most expensive transfers in the 2024/2025 summer transfer season. Benfica's young midfielder Neves was in the 60 million euro transfer. Of course, we will see much higher transfer fees until the transfer season ends. According to my research, the highest payments are currently between 60-65 million euros.

Although there is a 120 million euro exit clause in his contract valid until 2028, Benfica has stated that they will not force this clause in this transfer. PSG is entering a new era with the new season, the legendary squad they had previously established has already been destroyed, Mbappe has also left and they are now trying to build the team on a new system.

I think PSG should focus on transfers that will contribute to the team rather than expensive transfers. Of course, they can buy players at the prices you mentioned, but there are many missing players in the team and a team like PSG can produce its own stars. There are many young and potential players in the world and if PSG is a big team, they should find such players.

Mbappe is gone but it is not a dream to see a stronger PSG. If PSG can find players who will contribute to the team and have star potential during the transfer period, PSG, which everyone thinks is losing power, can rise again.
I agree that PSG can return to its former glory and glory. As long as they make the right transfers. Mbappe is gone but it's not the end of the world. Luis Enrique is a coach who will know how to deal with this. So with his experience, PSG can become a better team.

You are wrong PSG returning to good days doesn't mean they should hire super expensive players like Messi and Neymar again. They already have a good coach who can help this team to have good performance and he can help PSG to hire better players instead of just hiring superstar players.
I think time after time with Enrique, PSG can have a good time and get progress and improved.  s
Yea, I agree with you that since PSG has a good coach there is no need for too many super players. If the team continue playing under Enrique, definitely they will improve in performance and become strong enough to compete in UCL and win the league because that is only what PSG needs.

PSG don't have any rival in their domestic league which makes them not in any competition with other clubs and no matter how they play, they will still win the league so what they need to to build a strong squad to win UCL.

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August 07, 2024, 04:43:58 PM
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PSG have dominated Ligue 1 for a very long time and I don't think they have any problem in winning the domestic title. Without Mbappe PSG are still the strongest team in Ligue 1. They have a good coach and it's true as you said with Enrique they are getting better season by season. Honestly they were quite good in UCL by reaching semi-finals. But IMO PSG really needed Mbappe's contribution in UCL last season. This season they don't have Mbappe so there will be a problem in their front line if there is no other striker who can take Mbappe's role.
Since Luis Enrique signed a contract with PSG, I think he started to realize that Kylian Mbappe couldn't stay in his squad for long. Luis Enrique did not play Mbappe in several matches, indicating that PSG was no longer completely dependent on the contribution of one player. However, Kylian Mbappe got 29 playing slots in Ligue 1 last season by scoring 27 goals and 7 assists, while Mbappe scored 8 goals in 12 appearances in the Champions League last season.

I agree with you that PSG will still dominate Ligue 1 without Mbappe. They have a lot of quality players which will help them get what they want, but their performance in the Champions League is still questionable. Dembele has not been as good as expected, neither have several other strikers. Goal productivity will probably be lower than last season, but something could not be as I say.

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August 07, 2024, 05:09:56 PM
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PSG thinks that Mbappe loves his country France and will always be loyal to PSG and the club also gives privileges to the player and he also has the highest salary among other players, but PSG forgets that a star player doesn't only think about big salaries and doesn't just explore football in one league, they definitely want to pursue their dreams and want to find different experiences while Mbappe's dream since he was little is to become one of the great players and play for Real Madrid and now he is going through the process. Let's see how PSG performs without Mbappe next season, I think his goal productivity will decreased unlike before when they were still assisted by Mbappe in creating many goals.
If PSG thinks so, then they have misjudged Mbappe, as long as PSG always showers Mbappe with money in the hope that the player will continue to stay there. Mbappe is considered to always stay if the club is able to provide him with luxury, but money is not the only goal of the player because achievement is also very much needed. If PSG had achieved in the Domestic League and Champions League, perhaps Mbappe would have stayed there, but his departure was purely because he wanted to feel the extraordinary sensation of lifting the UCL trophy. Every player has a dream, he will pursue his dream to a place that makes it easier for him to achieve it, Real Madrid is the right place for him to get something that has never been won in his career.

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August 07, 2024, 05:22:16 PM
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PSG is one of their most expensive transfers in the 2024/2025 summer transfer season. Benfica's young midfielder Neves was in the 60 million euro transfer. Of course, we will see much higher transfer fees until the transfer season ends. According to my research, the highest payments are currently between 60-65 million euros.

Although there is a 120 million euro exit clause in his contract valid until 2028, Benfica has stated that they will not force this clause in this transfer. PSG is entering a new era with the new season, the legendary squad they had previously established has already been destroyed, Mbappe has also left and they are now trying to build the team on a new system.

I think PSG should focus on transfers that will contribute to the team rather than expensive transfers. Of course, they can buy players at the prices you mentioned, but there are many missing players in the team and a team like PSG can produce its own stars. There are many young and potential players in the world and if PSG is a big team, they should find such players.

Mbappe is gone but it is not a dream to see a stronger PSG. If PSG can find players who will contribute to the team and have star potential during the transfer period, PSG, which everyone thinks is losing power, can rise again.
I agree that PSG can return to its former glory and glory. As long as they make the right transfers. Mbappe is gone but it's not the end of the world. Luis Enrique is a coach who will know how to deal with this. So with his experience, PSG can become a better team.

You are wrong PSG returning to good days doesn't mean they should hire super expensive players like Messi and Neymar again. They already have a good coach who can help this team to have good performance and he can help PSG to hire better players instead of just hiring superstar players.
I think time after time with Enrique, PSG can have a good time and get progress and improved.  s

It may not always work to spend big money and bring in great players. We saw this in the old days with PSG. They could not win the UCL and they had great players in their squad. Now we see that in order to be successful at PSG, you need to play the team game in the best way possible. Enrique is doing this. That's why I congratulate him. I think they can be successful without Mbappe. As long as they play without breaking the team discipline.

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I thought we would see only PSG dominance in this match. Because PSG team is stronger than Sturm Graz. But Sturm Graz is performing well in this match. PSG are not able to dominate the match. At the end of the first half, the match was tied at 2-2.

PSG took a 2-0 lead just 12 minutes into the match. I thought PSG will dominate the match and PSG will win by a big margin. But Sturm Graz players played very well. PSG had 73% ball possession in the first half, while PSG players made a total of 4 shots. Sturm Graz's players had only 27% of the possession. But Strum Graz players made a total of 8 shots. Strum Graz players performed very well in the first half. I would say Sturm's players performed better than PSG's players. Despite having Kolo Muani, Soler and Ramos in PSG's squad, PSG's attacking performance has been relatively weak.

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August 07, 2024, 06:13:03 PM
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Considering PSG's manager history for a long time, Luis Enrique might also get sacked in case of not winning a Champions League title this season.  Sad  It is like they are able to be patient for only 2 years the most. I don't see many names keeping their job for more than that time period. We have seen so many big names being signed by PSG but still no Champions League trophy achieved...

If one of these names is given more years instead of only 1 or 2 years, then maybe they can achieve their biggest goal. It wouldn't be bad to give it a try. Just take Liverpool - Klopp relationship as an example.  Smiley

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August 07, 2024, 06:19:39 PM
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You are wrong PSG returning to good days doesn't mean they should hire super expensive players like Messi and Neymar again. They already have a good coach who can help this team to have good performance and he can help PSG to hire better players instead of just hiring superstar players.
I think time after time with Enrique, PSG can have a good time and get progress and improved.  s

Of course Enrique's a good coach. However, coaching alone won't win the Champions League. PSG needs stars, it's true. Mbappe's departure leaves a vacuum. He instills fear in opponents, not simply goals. Good but not great last season. Decent won't compete with the big boys. Tactics matter, but without execution, you're playing chess with pawns versus kings. PSG needs a statement signing. A player who scores and changes the game

Football's a business. Money, fame, and winning matter. It takes talent, strategy, and luck to win. With strategy but no aptitude, Enrique is a mechanic without a car. PSG must market aggressively. Find that missing piece, then let Enrique work. Respect Enrique's ideology. But philosophy doesn't win awards. They play. PSG must balance the books, sign a superstar, and let Enrique build his team. This is their only chance to stay relevant in Europe

One good reason to say the management of PSG had good performance and made good decisions was hiring Enrique for the last season. Unlike other coaches in PSG, Enrique is a coach who has the experience of working this superstar players and he played against many strong teams when he was working in Barcelona.
Since they had many superstar players but they didn't have a good coach they decided to hire Enrique to have better performance which was a good move from PSG.

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I thought we would see only PSG dominance in this match. Because PSG team is stronger than Sturm Graz. But Sturm Graz is performing well in this match. PSG are not able to dominate the match. At the end of the first half, the match was tied at 2-2.

PSG took a 2-0 lead just 12 minutes into the match. I thought PSG will dominate the match and PSG will win by a big margin. But Sturm Graz players played very well. PSG had 73% ball possession in the first half, while PSG players made a total of 4 shots. Sturm Graz's players had only 27% of the possession. But Strum Graz players made a total of 8 shots. Strum Graz players performed very well in the first half. I would say Sturm's players performed better than PSG's players. Despite having Kolo Muani, Soler and Ramos in PSG's squad, PSG's attacking performance has been relatively weak.

Like many other pre-season matches played by other teams, the final result of the match did not have a big impact on them. Like PSG for example, I did not watch this match. But, as usual, Enrique experimented again with the system and pattern that he applied when PSG played Sturm Graz. Based on the references that I used as references, Enrique used a 4-4-2 pattern, pairing Ramos and Kolo Muani. I am not too sure if PSG will use this pattern in the real competition, it seems that he just wants to experiment while evaluating his players. Besides, Enrique is tinkering with his players. Maybe for Sturm Graz this match can be a benchmark for them, because PSG is a giant team in the French League. We'll see in the next pre-season match, between Leipzig and PSG. We can judge whether Enrique will continue to use the same pattern, or he will try to change it while looking at the potential of the available players. What is certain is that PSG must be ready because the real competition will begin soon.

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August 07, 2024, 07:10:31 PM
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I mean with Dembele, Neves, Ramos, Muani, and even with Emery who is getting better, I would say PSG offensive line is still quite strong. Doesn't mean anything will change, but at least there is no expectation for them to get better, it's just not looking all that possible. I personally believe that we are going to see them do just fine and with this much money spent on the players it doesn't make sense for them to do just fine.

Let's see how far they will go in UCL, that part is something I wonder a lot. With some luck on which teams they will play, they may actually go very far, but if they get unlucky then they may not do all that well neither, so that's all a great situation which would be a little bit of a trouble on the long term.

This is why I think it's quite easy to say that PSG has a season that will decide on a lot of things ahead, because this season will be first without Mbappe and based on how they do, they will have the future set out for them. If they do fine, then they will think that they are on the right path and just go do that, but if they end up bad then they will realize they need to change something and do something about that, all of it depends on this season.

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August 07, 2024, 07:11:09 PM
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Considering PSG's manager history for a long time, Luis Enrique might also get sacked in case of not winning a Champions League title this season.  Sad  It is like they are able to be patient for only 2 years the most. I don't see many names keeping their job for more than that time period. We have seen so many big names being signed by PSG but still no Champions League trophy achieved...

If one of these names is given more years instead of only 1 or 2 years, then maybe they can achieve their biggest goal. It wouldn't be bad to give it a try. Just take Liverpool - Klopp relationship as an example.  Smiley
So far PSG has only given a coach the opportunity for only two seasons to train PSG regardless of whether they win the domestic title or not at all, what PSG has doing is quite crazy by giving a coach a short period of time to build their squad, but I don't think what PSG is doing is wrong because that way they don't have to pay compensation if the coach is unable to make PSG better during his coaching period, because with a duration of 2 years of course their contract will end faster than giving a long-term contract to a coach who finally resulted in his dismissal from the team.

Enrique has been a very experienced coach so far but I think currently he is not supported by quality players who are capable in every line to competing in the champions league, but if he had arrived sooner when PSG still had the MNM trio so maybe now PSG have won their first UCL trophy, I think Enrique fate will be very different from the previous coach who coached PSG if he is able to win the Champions League trophy in next season so it is likely he will get a contract extension,

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August 07, 2024, 09:06:59 PM
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I mean with Dembele, Neves, Ramos, Muani, and even with Emery who is getting better, I would say PSG offensive line is still quite strong. Doesn't mean anything will change, but at least there is no expectation for them to get better, it's just not looking all that possible. I personally believe that we are going to see them do just fine and with this much money spent on the players it doesn't make sense for them to do just fine.

Let's see how far they will go in UCL, that part is something I wonder a lot. With some luck on which teams they will play, they may actually go very far, but if they get unlucky then they may not do all that well neither, so that's all a great situation which would be a little bit of a trouble on the long term.

This is why I think it's quite easy to say that PSG has a season that will decide on a lot of things ahead, because this season will be first without Mbappe and based on how they do, they will have the future set out for them. If they do fine, then they will think that they are on the right path and just go do that, but if they end up bad then they will realize they need to change something and do something about that, all of it depends on this season.

Yes indeed, the point is that I am personally still very curious and will wait for how PSG will be next season after Mbappe departure to Real Madrid. Although indeed, basically I still recognize that PSG is a great team because it has good finances, because with good finances it will certainly make the team develop well too, at least that's how it should be. With PSG's condition without Mbappe but PSG also has a great coach who has great experience, and it will also still provide good results for PSG even though only in Ligue 1.

Because anyway, to reach the final in the Champion League I think also can not only rely on luck. Because after all, PSG always has great efforts but in fact PSG still gets not so good results in the Champions League. Thus, maybe by having good quality players on each line and also good second-tier players it will make PSG able to be more consistent with good performance in every match next season.

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August 07, 2024, 09:16:18 PM
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One good reason to say the management of PSG had good performance and made good decisions was hiring Enrique for the last season. Unlike other coaches in PSG, Enrique is a coach who has the experience of working this superstar players and he played against many strong teams when he was working in Barcelona.
Since they had many superstar players but they didn't have a good coach they decided to hire Enrique to have better performance which was a good move from PSG.

PSG has been hiring wrong managers before now which I think is the reason why they will have good squad but couldn’t win the Champions League because most of these managers don’t know how to manage big players and they do make some decisions that is always not favorable for the team.

Luiz Enrique has been a good manger since his time at Barcelona, he managed some set of world-class players and won trophies with the , he also managed the Spain national team which is another way to get used to world class players even though he didn’t do that for long. Now, he can do another good job at PSG because the team also have good players, and I hope he can help them achieve their main aim which is winning the Champions League.

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August 07, 2024, 09:43:11 PM
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I mean with Dembele, Neves, Ramos, Muani, and even with Emery who is getting better, I would say PSG offensive line is still quite strong. Doesn't mean anything will change, but at least there is no expectation for them to get better, it's just not looking all that possible. I personally believe that we are going to see them do just fine and with this much money spent on the players it doesn't make sense for them to do just fine.

Let's see how far they will go in UCL, that part is something I wonder a lot. With some luck on which teams they will play, they may actually go very far, but if they get unlucky then they may not do all that well neither, so that's all a great situation which would be a little bit of a trouble on the long term.

This is why I think it's quite easy to say that PSG has a season that will decide on a lot of things ahead, because this season will be first without Mbappe and based on how they do, they will have the future set out for them. If they do fine, then they will think that they are on the right path and just go do that, but if they end up bad then they will realize they need to change something and do something about that, all of it depends on this season.
With the squad that PSG currently has, it is only enough to win the Ligue 1 trophy and other domestic trophies. Meanwhile, to go further in the Champions League or win it, PSG must first find a replacement for Mbappe, because it greatly affects their bargaining value there. Everyone is curious about what will happen after Mbappe leaves, last season PSG managed to reach the semifinals, without Mbappe it seems they will find it difficult to repeat it. So far no agreement has been reached with players who have been linked like Osimhen, while Ligue 1 will soon roll.

On the other hand, I agree that PSG must change some of its policies that have been considered the best way to achieve success in the future, replacing star players with star players does not guarantee a step closer to winning trophies. PSG must learn to be like Bayern Munchen, who came from a League that was not so competitive but was able to win trophies in the Champions League. Almost every season Bayern Munchen is included in the list of favorite teams to win, this can be realized because they build a team collectively that does not depend on one or two star players.

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August 07, 2024, 10:03:23 PM
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It's tiring if we keep talking about the champions league on PSG and in the end they are just clowns in the competition.
Yes, this is just a mere dream, never mind, there's no need to talk about it anymore because in the end it won't work anyway.   Cheesy Cheesy

Anyway, new latest news:
Again, Marseille have successfully signed another player as a loan.
Valentín Carboni, 19-year-old Attacking Midfielder from Inter Milan till Jun 30, 2025


Source: Marseille have signed Valentin Carboni loan

So far, Olympique Marseille has managed to bring in 7 new players for the team, either paid, loan, or transfer fee.

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August 07, 2024, 11:10:07 PM
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It's tiring if we keep talking about the champions league on PSG and in the end they are just clowns in the competition.
Yes, this is just a mere dream, never mind, there's no need to talk about it anymore because in the end it won't work anyway.   Cheesy Cheesy

Anyway, new latest news:
Again, Marseille have successfully signed another player as a loan.
Valentín Carboni, 19-year-old Attacking Midfielder from Inter Milan till Jun 30, 2025


Source: Marseille have signed Valentin Carboni loan

So far, Olympique Marseille has managed to bring in 7 new players for the team, either paid, loan, or transfer fee.
This really interesting, just when I taught Marseille is done signing for the season, they are adding yet another to the squad. Last season they didn't do much so maybe they are getting prepared already, they have to strength the team because a possible opportunity avails it self ahead in this new season and they may have the chance to be amongst the top team especially if they are able to win trophies or finish well by the end of the Season in their domestic league. PSG that has been trying to fix their team aswell, the teams will trying to increase the competition in the league as they are seeing that most likely the dominance of the top teams may not be there again.

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