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September 28, 2024, 09:09:50 AM
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Lyon being bad is definitely something historically sad. I watched them dominate this league when I was growing up, during my college years Lyon was the best team and they had some great European games as well not just France, and unfortunately financial ruin caused them to never recover.

I feel like they need to do better though, they have income, and they are spending way too much on player salaries, if they could get younger players for cheaper, then about a 50-60 million salary spending would be possible and they could pay that easily and then get out of debt. Sell some stuff that they own too, whatever they can, it would cover some of the debt, just like how Barcelona sold some stuff to pay the debt and get some players.

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September 28, 2024, 09:11:00 AM
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Seeing PSG lack of focus made me confident and motivated to bet on BTTS.
Although PSG often put pressure on Rennes defense. PSG seemed to lack focus even though they were playing at home, but breaking through Rennes goal required strong cooperation.
Rennes was able to put up a little resistance even though they failed several times, Rennes certainly had a few opportunities that could be utilized to score at least 1 goal.



Although PSG still looks fine so far, but the fact is that PSG also conceded several times even though PSG also won with a big score, so it is not wrong if you bet on that option. But unfortunately,  if I consider from the statistics so far in this ongoing match, it seems difficult for Rennes to be able to score a goal,because it is clear that PSG has good dominance in this match too. But indeed, that does not mean Rennes is weak  because Rennes also still managed to make goal attempts, which of course is a good effort to be able to score,  even though the reality is not easy at all and the current score is 2-0.
Finally what I thought happened, but believe me it was like luck because Rennes was able to score 1 goal from a penalty kick. Cheesy
Previously I said PSG played out of character and often lost focus and controlled the ball too long and finally on that occasion Rennes got a good chance.


Although only getting one goal but the effort made by the PSG team was quite good, they played with good ball possession but they also had difficulty penetrating Rennes' defense several times, but this victory was good enough for them PSG could move away from the current second rank 2, Barcola played well enough so that they could maximize two goals to win this match, a match that was highly favored for PSG and I think Enrique is quite satisfied with the 3-1 result at home.
I am quite interested in PSG after Mbappe left and Enrique was also doubted because they lost a star but in fact they are fine and I believe this is the time for PSG to work better with Enrique because the strategy he built is quite satisfying by playing the ball between feet to feet this shows that they are ready for any attack.

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September 28, 2024, 09:15:39 AM
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PSG 1 -0 Rennes
A full victory by PSG further solidified the club as the top club in the standings, which is really competing tightly with 3 points from Marseille and Monaco. It's just that the number of goals scored by PSG is much higher, because of that their chances to stay at the top standing are still quite large.


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In the match against Rennes, it was proven that PSG still dominates the club. Even the goal obtained by Rennes was the result of a penalty kick. Both have tried hard, but PSG's strength and solidity are indeed not in doubt here.
I've seen PSG match book and their effort and effort is really good and strong. So far in recent matches I have seen 4 wins and 1 draw. By the end it does not mean that they lost the match, it means that the opposing team was also strong. It doesn't matter if they win the next matches and Marseille and Monaco lose the matches, it will change their points which will benefit PSG.  Obviously, when they win so many matches and win with good perform they will dominate every team and club. I have noticed that some teams are afraid to play him. Because they score more goals and put pressure on the opposing team which makes it difficult for them to score. Yes, the match was very tough due to which the match was a draw.

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September 28, 2024, 09:33:18 AM
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Now we are mainly talking about domination of PSG in Ligue 1 but some years before PSG starting their domination in this league, it was domination era of Lyon.

Let's see history of Ligue 1 and the league champions to see domination of both Lyon and PSG. Lyon win 7 Ligue 1 titles from 2001 to 2008 and PSG win 10 titles from 2012 to 2024, both of them have impressive domination. It's 17 years since a last season Lyon won Ligue 1 title and they're not ready to lift it again in this season.

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Lyon
2001–02, 2002–03, 2003–04, 2004–05, 2005–06, 2006–07, 2007–08

PSG
1985–86, 1993–94, 2012–13, 2013–14, 2014–15, 2015–16, 2017–18, 2018–19, 2019–20, 2021–22, 2022–23, 2023–24
I understand how difficult it is now for them to achieve this in this era where other clubs have developed financially and have been able to build their squad to a level that it is almost impossible to compete against them for league titles. A club like PSG have developed to that level that it will be very difficult for Lyon to dominate and win the league. PSG are the reigning club at the moment, the quality of their team alone gives Lyon no chance except Lyon will have to step up to be able to compete with them.

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September 28, 2024, 11:29:04 AM
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Lyon being bad is definitely something historically sad. I watched them dominate this league when I was growing up, during my college years Lyon was the best team and they had some great European games as well not just France, and unfortunately financial ruin caused them to never recover.

I feel like they need to do better though, they have income, and they are spending way too much on player salaries, if they could get younger players for cheaper, then about a 50-60 million salary spending would be possible and they could pay that easily and then get out of debt. Sell some stuff that they own too, whatever they can, it would cover some of the debt, just like how Barcelona sold some stuff to pay the debt and get some players.

The same here!  Smiley  I have also seen that golden age of Lyon live. The times with great players such as Benzema, Juninho and so on... We are talking about a team that won the league title for 7 years straight.

But in the recent years they are just in their downfall. They climbed last season but again they are back in the start line. How long will this continue? I really want Lyon players to start believing in themselves not temporarily but permanently.



What do you say about Barcola? Isn't he such a talent?  Smiley  Honestly I wasn't finding him good enough previously. It seems like it was all due to staying in Mbappe's shadow. Now he scores like a machine!

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September 28, 2024, 12:19:23 PM
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In this season we are having good development in Marseille as they spend good funds for the quality of their squad, and they are having good coach which is going to have good impact on their performance in this season with PSG which is playing without big names are also decent and Monaco is always long race horse which give challenging time to big teams and stay into top spots now after beating Barcelona in Champions League their confidence level is also high.

In 6th round, we are having mostly easily games for the top teams which will keep them at their current spots, but still few matches are going to be interesting because we are having good matches between PSG vs Rennes with Marseille will be visited Strasbourg and then Monaco is going to host Montpellier which have their first win of this season in last game against Auxerre.
I think it's true that Marseille has what it takes to win the league if it wasn't for PSG, they are the best team after PSG and they are even right there on standings today. But, let's be honest with each other and see that even with Mbappe, PSG is so far better than everyone else, sure they lost a point recently but that's it and I think they are going to dominate the league again and win the title.

The thing about Marseille or any other French team is that they need to do better at Europe, that brings in money, and that money brings in better players and better team and maybe have a chance. Still, it is not as good as having rich owners, PSG has rich owners and that's why the yare at the top, Marseille doesn't, but they can get richer with European success.

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September 28, 2024, 12:56:12 PM
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Lyon being bad is definitely something historically sad. I watched them dominate this league when I was growing up, during my college years Lyon was the best team and they had some great European games as well not just France, and unfortunately financial ruin caused them to never recover.

I feel like they need to do better though, they have income, and they are spending way too much on player salaries, if they could get younger players for cheaper, then about a 50-60 million salary spending would be possible and they could pay that easily and then get out of debt. Sell some stuff that they own too, whatever they can, it would cover some of the debt, just like how Barcelona sold some stuff to pay the debt and get some players.

It's sad to see Lyon's current condition, they should be one of the strong teams in Ligue 1, but now they are only ranked 15th. They have 1 win, 1 draw & 3 losses from the 5 matches they have played so far. Their condition is inversely proportional to Marseille, now Marseille is performing better than last season, they are lucky to have Mason Greenwood there who is performing well. Their next match is against Toulouse, let's see what they can get there.

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September 28, 2024, 01:27:17 PM
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It's sad to see Lyon's current condition, they should be one of the strong teams in Ligue 1, but now they are only ranked 15th. They have 1 win, 1 draw & 3 losses from the 5 matches they have played so far. Their condition is inversely proportional to Marseille, now Marseille is performing better than last season, they are lucky to have Mason Greenwood there who is performing well. Their next match is against Toulouse, let's see what they can get there.
The match against Toulouse should be a momentum for Lyon to create a turning point in Ligue 1 performance, altoght in terms of consistency, both are not much different at this time, they are very close to the relegation zone. Lyon victory over Olympiakos in the Europa League certainly provides confidence for the players, and they only need to play the same way to be able to achieve a second victory in their domestic competition. Pierre Sage must tell his players to forget the defeat to Marseille in week 5 yesterday, and it's time for them to rise to get away from the red zone. Lyon journey this season is almost exactly the same as last season, and it seems they are only on fire when entering the second half of the season. Despite their previous bad reputation, Lyon has a higher chance of securing full points tomorrow, Toulouse should be easier to beat than Olympiakos.

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September 28, 2024, 05:29:24 PM
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While I think PSG is doing fine and Arsenal looks a little loss at times, I still think that Arteta will find a way to get that win. I know it's hard, to beat PSG because Luis Enrique put a great team together and everything looks great for them so far, and they are leading the league and I am sure that they are going to try their hardest and beating them will be very tough for Arsenal. But Arsenal has what it takes to do it, it wouldn't be that impossible, I am on belief that Arsenal is the clear favourites here, while PSG could surprise me, Arsenal will win could be a very normal bet.

At the very least, odds are good because both teams are considered good and that is why I think it's clear that we are going to see both teams have a shot and betting on them would be profitable. Rest of the UCL doesn't look like that much fun, it is going to be mostly big teams vs smaller teams, maybe Milan vs Leverkusen could be fun too, normally Milan should win that game, but Milan has been very inconsistent whereas Leverkusen is decent and does fine. I am going to just bet on the clear favourites mostly, make a parlay, it will be 2.00+ return and I think doubling money on favourites is easy and entertaining. I could lose, but I rather take that risk.

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September 28, 2024, 06:27:03 PM
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Although only getting one goal but the effort made by the PSG team was quite good, they played with good ball possession but they also had difficulty penetrating Rennes' defense several times, but this victory was good enough for them PSG could move away from the current second rank 2, Barcola played well enough so that they could maximize two goals to win this match, a match that was highly favored for PSG and I think Enrique is quite satisfied with the 3-1 result at home.
I am quite interested in PSG after Mbappe left and Enrique was also doubted because they lost a star but in fact they are fine and I believe this is the time for PSG to work better with Enrique because the strategy he built is quite satisfying by playing the ball between feet to feet this shows that they are ready for any attack.

Luis Enrique's team played well in the match against Rennes, they dominated the match until the end. Barcola played well again after previously underperforming in the match against Reims, in the match against Rennes, he contributed two goals for his team, one of which was thanks to an assist from Dembele. Kang-in Lee also contributed one goal, uniquely he was rotated into a center forward. Well, the result of this match made PSG stay safe in their place by collecting 16 points. What concerns me is actually the rotation carried out by Enrique, even though Kolo Muani was ready to be played as the main starter. It's just that, Enrique tried to do something else and the results were still optimal. Mbappe has left, there is no time for PSG to think about it. Especially for the coach, Enrique has the task of continuing to bring his team much better than the previous season. BTW, my guess is, Enrique tried to rotate his center forward players to save the energy of players who were not made the main starters, or, another reason is that Enrique tried the potential of other players. because, in the next match PSG will fly to England to visit Emirates Stadium in order to play away against Arsenal in the Champions League. I want to see the strength of these two teams, it should be an interesting fight.

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September 28, 2024, 06:41:22 PM
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Lyon being bad is definitely something historically sad. I watched them dominate this league when I was growing up, during my college years Lyon was the best team and they had some great European games as well not just France, and unfortunately financial ruin caused them to never recover.

I feel like they need to do better though, they have income, and they are spending way too much on player salaries, if they could get younger players for cheaper, then about a 50-60 million salary spending would be possible and they could pay that easily and then get out of debt. Sell some stuff that they own too, whatever they can, it would cover some of the debt, just like how Barcelona sold some stuff to pay the debt and get some players.

It's sad to see Lyon's current condition, they should be one of the strong teams in Ligue 1, but now they are only ranked 15th. They have 1 win, 1 draw & 3 losses from the 5 matches they have played so far. Their condition is inversely proportional to Marseille, now Marseille is performing better than last season, they are lucky to have Mason Greenwood there who is performing well. Their next match is against Toulouse, let's see what they can get there.
When Lyon and Marseille made a breakthrough in the transfer market by spending a lot of money on player shopping, of course we hope that there will be fierce competition in Ligue 1 this season, but so far only Marseille has put pressure on PSG while Lyon actually has to fall to the bottom of the current Ligue 1 standings, last season Lyon was able to end the position in the Europa League zone but looking at their current performance and inconsistency it is clear to repeating their achievements last season will be very difficult.
Against Toulouse may be the beginning of their resurgence but frankly the possibility of a their downturn can also happen, considering the performance of the two teams that are equally bad at the moment in the league, we cannot deny that maybe toulouse match will add to the long list of Lyon failures in this season.

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September 28, 2024, 06:51:23 PM
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When Lyon and Marseille made a breakthrough in the transfer market by spending a lot of money on player shopping, of course we hope that there will be fierce competition in Ligue 1 this season, but so far only Marseille has put pressure on PSG while Lyon actually has to fall to the bottom of the current Ligue 1 standings, last season Lyon was able to end the position in the Europa League zone but looking at their current performance and inconsistency it is clear to repeating their achievements last season will be very difficult.
In reality, buying expensive and many players does not guarantee that the team's performance will be good. Do you remember how much money Chelsea has squandered in the last few seasons in building their squad? They haven't even found their best form in the Premier League even with several coaching changes.

But I wouldn't draw conclusions too quickly about Lyon who are known to have spent €147.79m to bring in several new players. Lyon performed poorly in its first 5 matches in Ligue 1, but over time the team's performance will improve when the adaptations and strategies implemented are fully understood by the new players. The problem currently facing Lyon is that their defense still looks weak and this is made worse by the poor performance of the fordward.

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September 28, 2024, 08:52:53 PM
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3-1 is not a bad game and definitely something they needed for a while as well. They are still changing some players and rotating them as much as they can, which is fine and I think it is going to be something that will take a while for them to find the ideal 11, but they are doing fine meanwhile and winning games so it is not an issue yet.

Luis Enrique is showing that PSG could do fine without Mbappe as well, and that is exactly what they wanted from him, they wanted to establish a level where they are doing fine without him as an example, so if he becomes bad one day and they fire him, they can hire another one and show that PSG can be good. This year they need to win the title, it's much more important to win the title this year than any other year in the last decade. If they can do that, then they are going to do fine.

Luis Enrique knows what this and because of that I think he is trying to do the best he can do with the team, and if he can win the title, he knows that he is keeping his job. Getting paid this much and managing such a big team for a third season will allow him to build a  squad that will be even better. At the very least, you know he is better than Erik Tan Hag lol, and that is why he needs to win it this year without any questions or doubts.

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September 28, 2024, 09:53:28 PM
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PSG 1 -0 Rennes
A full victory by PSG further solidified the club as the top club in the standings, which is really competing tightly with 3 points from Marseille and Monaco. It's just that the number of goals scored by PSG is much higher, because of that their chances to stay at the top standing are still quite large.


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In the match against Rennes, it was proven that PSG still dominates the club. Even the goal obtained by Rennes was the result of a penalty kick. Both have tried hard, but PSG's strength and solidity are indeed not in doubt here.
I've seen PSG match book and their effort and effort is really good and strong. So far in recent matches I have seen 4 wins and 1 draw. By the end it does not mean that they lost the match, it means that the opposing team was also strong. It doesn't matter if they win the next matches and Marseille and Monaco lose the matches, it will change their points which will benefit PSG.  Obviously, when they win so many matches and win with good perform they will dominate every team and club. I have noticed that some teams are afraid to play him. Because they score more goals and put pressure on the opposing team which makes it difficult for them to score. Yes, the match was very tough due to which the match was a draw.
A very good result from PSG, the kings of the ligue 1, they have continued to show their strength and their superiority over others in the ligue 1, Monaco was an average team but they couldn't match up with PSG in this game, in the match they tried making good attempts in the first half but found out they may conced more goals and they had to go defensive in the second which still didn't remedy the situation s the bigger side remained big even in the midst of the whole efforts from Monaco who isn't their equals in this game.

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September 28, 2024, 10:15:21 PM
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Lyon being bad is definitely something historically sad. I watched them dominate this league when I was growing up, during my college years Lyon was the best team and they had some great European games as well not just France, and unfortunately financial ruin caused them to never recover.

I feel like they need to do better though, they have income, and they are spending way too much on player salaries, if they could get younger players for cheaper, then about a 50-60 million salary spending would be possible and they could pay that easily and then get out of debt. Sell some stuff that they own too, whatever they can, it would cover some of the debt, just like how Barcelona sold some stuff to pay the debt and get some players.

I think Lyon needs a revolution and they need a shock to get the team improved again. Maybe they should have a better manager because having a new coach couldn't help this team at all and even spending too much money for hiring new players couldn't help them too.
Now Lyon is again in danger and if they continue this bad performance during this season, we can expect to see Lyon getting relegated which is the worst ever thing for Lyon. As you said Lyon was one of the best teams in France but they should find the weakness as soon as possible before they lose more time.
 

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September 28, 2024, 11:59:41 PM
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Lyon being bad is definitely something historically sad. I watched them dominate this league when I was growing up, during my college years Lyon was the best team and they had some great European games as well not just France, and unfortunately financial ruin caused them to never recover.
Yes, it is really sad to see how LYON is now. This club is not as fierce as before, even there are many weaknesses in every point. even for now, their position in the French League is in 15th position, it will be quite difficult for them to recover to the top position, at least, their hope is to rise to the middle club level. Maybe this is much better. Even though last season they were able to finish in 6th position, but at the beginning of this season, they were even able to get only 1 win. Let's see how they will do to face and able to win from Toulouse or not.

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I've seen PSG match book and their effort and effort is really good and strong. So far in recent matches I have seen 4 wins and 1 draw. By the end it does not mean that they lost the match, it means that the opposing team was also strong. It doesn't matter if they win the next matches and Marseille and Monaco lose the matches, it will change their points which will benefit PSG.  .....
Yes, PSG, Monaco, Marseille have the same statistics and points. At least we just have to wait for Marseille, and if they win, the three clubs are really competing tightly. And honestly, I really like this. Because no matter what, the French League will be even more interesting with the fight for positions 1 - 3. And for PSG, whatever the condniton, I also have no doubt on them, wondering how if those three clubs each face each other later.

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September 29, 2024, 04:51:11 AM
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It been great week, I got another win in the Ligue 1 match and today I took LOSC and Monaco as favorites and they really played very well as expected.
Le Havre vs LOSC is an easy match for LOSC to get the advantage and win, LOSC can play quite well since the beginning of the first half and they managed to get 2 goal advantage also in the first half.
But what is really amazing is the performance of Jonathan David who was able to create all the goals in LOSC victory with score of 0 - 3 today.
For Monaco vs Montpellier itself, the match was very fierce from the beginning to the end of the second half which showed draw of 1 - 1 but in the final minutes of the second half in extra time Lamine Camara managed to provide 1 goal for Monaco advantage and victory.


Next there are some more interesting matches between Angers vs Reims and also Strasbourg vs Marseille, this should be an easy match for Reims and Marseille to win, they are also favorites in their respective matches.

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September 29, 2024, 05:51:23 AM
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Lyon being bad is definitely something historically sad. I watched them dominate this league when I was growing up, during my college years Lyon was the best team and they had some great European games as well not just France, and unfortunately financial ruin caused them to never recover.

I feel like they need to do better though, they have income, and they are spending way too much on player salaries, if they could get younger players for cheaper, then about a 50-60 million salary spending would be possible and they could pay that easily and then get out of debt. Sell some stuff that they own too, whatever they can, it would cover some of the debt, just like how Barcelona sold some stuff to pay the debt and get some players.

It's sad to see Lyon's current condition, they should be one of the strong teams in Ligue 1, but now they are only ranked 15th. They have 1 win, 1 draw & 3 losses from the 5 matches they have played so far. Their condition is inversely proportional to Marseille, now Marseille is performing better than last season, they are lucky to have Mason Greenwood there who is performing well. Their next match is against Toulouse, let's see what they can get there.
Olympic Lyon will face Toulouse today at noon. In their last Europa League match, they managed to beat Olympiakos, one of the strong teams in Greece, by two goals. This gave them great morale. In the five matches they played in the French League, they gave us images far from the football expected of them. I can't say that they played very well in the match they won either. However, I expect them to play a little better football today. It's time to shake things up. They should come to their senses

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September 29, 2024, 06:24:47 AM
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What do you say about Barcola? Isn't he such a talent?  Smiley  Honestly I wasn't finding him good enough previously. It seems like it was all due to staying in Mbappe's shadow. Now he scores like a machine!

Barcola is PSG's best player so far. He's a such a really talented player. He's very consistent, and has amazing mobility. It feels like i see young mbappe on him. He's their best asset so far. He is following what mbappe did, and i see a the next mbappe on him. Mbarcolaaaa? Yes.

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September 29, 2024, 07:29:25 AM
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I am quite interested in PSG after Mbappe left and Enrique was also doubted because they lost a star but in fact they are fine and I believe this is the time for PSG to work better with Enrique because the strategy he built is quite satisfying by playing the ball between feet to feet this shows that they are ready for any attack.
PSG's current position is not secure, and Enrique still has a lot of work to do to keep PSG as an unbeaten team. On one hand, Monaco and Marseille continue to chase the points held by PSG. Regarding the future of this season, I actually have no doubts about Enrique because from the moment the coach tried to showcase PSG without Mbappe, Enrique was merely assessing the strength of the PSG squad without Mbappe, and ultimately he found the right strategies and tactics.
On one hand, this is just a good start, and it's actually not just the league 1 title that Enrique wants, but also the UCL trophy.

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