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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
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Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
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Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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December 12, 2023, 06:19:07 PM

Last season he performed very well and everyone was happy with him. Let him complete two seasons before we can say something about him being fired. He brought champions league game to old Trafford and he won manager of the month of November which means he is doing something good, but not to the expectations of the fans. Let him finish this season. January transfer window will soon be open, let him buy players and do his magic.
I trust the process, but if there is no progress, obviously I am also disappointed. Including Man United, they suffered setbacks for this season. Maybe giving a chance is an option, and he should be given a deadline and maybe the end of the season if there is no improvement then he has to leave. He had been given a lot of money to buy, but he couldn't take advantage of it. The players and the philosophy of the game seem to be unsuitable for English football.
Manchester United management has full confidence in Ten Hag and what he has done this season, even though sometimes the results are far from everyone expectations. It could be said that Ten Hag is a lucky coach, because United poor performance during this season is still tolerated by management, which means that club officials are not so arrogant in carrying out the dismissal. As a big club, of course when they lose, the pressure they experience will be quite big, and this will continue to haunt them when they play the match. No club is safe from fans criticism, especially if they often appear inconsistent, and that is an understandable reaction.

The deadline is definitely there as a benchmark for Ten Hag performance in leading the United squad, if the number of defeats continues to increase I am quite sure he will be sacked without having to wait for the end of the season. Management will ignore various reasons that will be put forward in whatever form they are, player injuries, sanctions and so on. Because, however, United will take a firm stance if Ten Hag does not show progress in the future, club officials do not want to suffer losses and they want large revenues after spending large budgets in the transfer market.

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December 12, 2023, 06:29:12 PM

Honestly there will definitely be some big name games and all that, its going to be fun for sure but I do not think that it will be all that crazy. I think we are going to end up with just ordinary games, it's not extra added fun. Maybe that's because it's religious thing that makes it better for some people?

Like it's holidays for you and you like these during the holidays but for me it is not the holidays and I have to keep working non-stop, nothing about this period that gives me any break from the work so I have to end up working for a long time. I think we should be considering the situation a little bit sensitive for some people who enjoys it and I hope you get the most fun. For me its just another weekend games in the end.

I don't really understand what you mean by religion and work as you mentioned, because I think everyone certainly has their own busy life and make it something different here, because here we are discussing the prediction of a match. After all, sports in topics like this I think are about hobbies, and I don't think there is any intention as you mean. After all, even though you are still busy working but if you have a hobby related to topics like this, then of course you will still look for info and many other things here.

But yes, apart from that and related matches this weekend, I think there is one big match that will happen this weekend. The match is the match between Liverpool v Manchester United although indeed, at this moment Manchester United is in a bad situation. But ya, at least the match against Liverpool will still be a big match too, because basically Manchester United is an elite team and yes, Manchester United should be able to play well in the away match against Liverpool this weekend.

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December 12, 2023, 06:30:03 PM

I trust the process, but if there is no progress, obviously I am also disappointed. Including Man United, they suffered setbacks for this season. Maybe giving a chance is an option, and he should be given a deadline and maybe the end of the season if there is no improvement then he has to leave. He had been given a lot of money to buy, but he couldn't take advantage of it. The players and the philosophy of the game seem to be unsuitable for English football.
In football modern not really trusted with process exactly Manchester United management spent much money and their fans less patience waiting for how many years needed their teams return to be top teams in Premier League. One year half I think more enough to see how compete with Erik ten Hag and he made much internal problem with Manchester United players, another bad rumor with half of players not trust and doubt with Erik ten Hag capacity as manager and they want to sack manager as soon possible.
Last opportunity for Erik ten Hag waiting Manchester United match result against Bayern Munich, qualify or not its not effort yet but Manchester United must win on last champion league match.

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December 12, 2023, 06:34:22 PM

Last season he performed very well and everyone was happy with him. Let him complete two seasons before we can say something about him being fired. He brought champions league game to old Trafford and he won manager of the month of November which means he is doing something good, but not to the expectations of the fans. Let him finish this season. January transfer window will soon be open, let him buy players and do his magic.
I trust the process, but if there is no progress, obviously I am also disappointed. Including Man United, they suffered setbacks for this season. Maybe giving a chance is an option, and he should be given a deadline and maybe the end of the season if there is no improvement then he has to leave. He had been given a lot of money to buy, but he couldn't take advantage of it. The players and the philosophy of the game seem to be unsuitable for English football.
Manchester United management has full confidence in Ten Hag and what he has done this season, even though sometimes the results are far from everyone expectations. It could be said that Ten Hag is a lucky coach, because United poor performance during this season is still tolerated by management, which means that club officials are not so arrogant in carrying out the dismissal. As a big club, of course when they lose, the pressure they experience will be quite big, and this will continue to haunt them when they play the match. No club is safe from fans criticism, especially if they often appear inconsistent, and that is an understandable reaction.

The deadline is definitely there as a benchmark for Ten Hag performance in leading the United squad, if the number of defeats continues to increase I am quite sure he will be sacked without having to wait for the end of the season. Management will ignore various reasons that will be put forward in whatever form they are, player injuries, sanctions and so on. Because, however, United will take a firm stance if Ten Hag does not show progress in the future, club officials do not want to suffer losses and they want large revenues after spending large budgets in the transfer market.
Of course if the results doesn't improve the management will have to show Ten Hag the exit door. Ten Hag know this and he knows what's waiting for him. Believe me no body wants United results to improve more than Ten Hag because his job is on the line. Am sure he is really thinking of the way out of his current situation. If After the January transfer window and the poor results continues then we can be sure that he will be sack. There are many internal issues at old Trafford which need to be settled as well.

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December 12, 2023, 06:43:05 PM

that's how it should be. As a coach who has led the team for a full season, Ten Hag should build strong relationships with his players. Such experience will give him an edge in understanding team dynamics and designing tactical approaches accordingly. and with the addition of new players this season who can strengthen the squad and meet the team's needs, Ten Hag should now be at a stage where coaching and developing certain aspects of the team's game and relationships is key to its success.
However, what happened to his discipline during training and bringing in the players he wanted, MU's performance never improved, I'm sure your problem lies with Ten Hag himself.

But I think it is definitely too late for building relationships with that team. The thing is if a coach wasn't able to build good relationships with his players that he has been coaching for almost 1.5 years, how would that change for the better in the next few months then? Ten Hag is not the type of coach who understands very well how to build relationships and give everyone a group feeling or group identity. He has been constantly separating the players either from the team, or players from some specific other players by supporting one player while attacking the other player, for instance both from the same position.
The point is that Man United must have a Director of Football who is truly experienced in managing the club so that the club's long-term vision is clear, player transfers are in line with the coach's philosophy - player prices are reasonable, not expensive, and the development of young players is guaranteed. Because firing the coach is not a solution, four times the coach was fired in 10 years, the problem is always the same, what needs to be fired are the people who manage the club who need to be aware of themselves. SAF once said that if the team wants to win, what does the owner want to do, where does he want to take this club, does he want to become champions or get worse?

I've seen Gery Neville's interview, and I really agree with what he said. The main factor at Man United, because there are many complex problems within Man United itself.

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December 12, 2023, 06:48:24 PM

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Ten Hag deserves more time at Manchester United to prove himself. He came in last season and finished in the top 4. He won silverware for the club. Yes he bought players he thought was good but it didn't turn out the way he expected, not all market turn out well. He should be given more time to show his working.

I don’t know how much time Ten Hag would seemingly deserve to prove himself at the club. He wasn’t picked as the coach yesterday and he has had in my opinion, enough time to study and understand the capabilities of all his players on the team. Apparently enough time to know and go after players he thought was best to achieve his goals as a manager for the club.
I’m not rooting for his removal as the coach, but I think he has had enough time on the job for his plans to start to show some general improvement in the team.
If you look at the table of the premier league competition, you will know that Ten Hag is doing a great work to Manchester united compare to Chelsea who are below Manchester united and there is a prove that Manchester united are not the poor team in this season. I believe Manchester united coach did well last season despite they did not win the trophy but they came out in 4th position that made people to believe that he is doing a great job and, with time he will definitely solve the crisis that is coming from the players which is causing them not to achieve good results so far.

There are many teams preparing to take this premier league trophy from Manchester city which people are seeing the sign around for Manchester city to drop down to 4th position and, it has given Arsenal the opportunity to occupy the first position.

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December 12, 2023, 06:59:44 PM

I trust the process, but if there is no progress, obviously I am also disappointed. Including Man United, they suffered setbacks for this season. Maybe giving a chance is an option, and he should be given a deadline and maybe the end of the season if there is no improvement then he has to leave. He had been given a lot of money to buy, but he couldn't take advantage of it. The players and the philosophy of the game seem to be unsuitable for English football.

Yeah. We aren’t supposed to think about firing Ten Hag now. I don’t think it’s time for that, given that he did well last season, so why will they fire him this season? I think they should give him time again. This is football, and sometimes things don’t happen as we think, so therefore, I think Ten Hag has the ability to manage Manchester United. Even though we are still yet to see any improvement from Manchester United, maybe he will do something better next season. However, it seems to me that both players and the management are inconsistent in how their matches have been moving since I don’t see any action that has been taken in order for them to at least double up their performance to start showing some signs of getting their performance back. I hope Ten Hag will do something before the management asks him to leave.

I think it is better for Manchester United to change coach because Erik ten hag has done enough and I don't think even next season Manchester United can improve is better they should sack him and bring new coach to the team because is discipline players and I think Manchester United have not improved up thing today because I didn't see anything that Sancho did bad to him he just don't like him in the club again and he do to Ronaldo and that make Ronaldo leave the club, and if he continues like this, I don't think Manchester United can improve in their matches, because he is separating the players from each other. If Sancho is playing for Manchester United right now, I am confident he will help the team well, and if Manchester United do not qualify for the Champions League next season I will like they should fire him, because he will never change and they have a tough match against Liverpool this weekend after playing with Bayern Munich this night.

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December 12, 2023, 07:15:23 PM

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I don’t know how much time Ten Hag would seemingly deserve to prove himself at the club. He wasn’t picked as the coach yesterday and he has had in my opinion, enough time to study and understand the capabilities of all his players on the team. Apparently enough time to know and go after players he thought was best to achieve his goals as a manager for the club.
I’m not rooting for his removal as the coach, but I think he has had enough time on the job for his plans to start to show some general improvement in the team.
If you look at the table of the premier league competition, you will know that Ten Hag is doing a great work to Manchester united compare to Chelsea who are below Manchester united and there is a prove that Manchester united are not the poor team in this season. I believe Manchester united coach did well last season despite they did not win the trophy but they came out in 4th position that made people to believe that he is doing a great job and, with time he will definitely solve the crisis that is coming from the players which is causing them not to achieve good results so far.

There are many teams preparing to take this premier league trophy from Manchester city which people are seeing the sign around for Manchester city to drop down to 4th position and, it has given Arsenal the opportunity to occupy the first position.
I think sooner or later if there is no improvement in performance Ten Hag will be expelled from Old Trafford. It cannot be denied that Ten Hag performance is still better than Pochettino, but the two clubs have one thing in common, namely being inconsistent, sometimes playing quite well like title contenders and often playing games that are difficult for everyone to understand.

If United management will keep Ten Hag until the end of the season, there is nothing wrong with that, they hope something good will happen in the future. However, this means that management will continue to evaluate Ten Hag performance every week. In my opinion, Ten Hag doesn't need a lot of time, what he actually needs is luck, such as avoiding the storm of injuries and internal conflicts at the club.

Regarding Man City, they still have a chance to retain the EPL trophy even though they are under pressure from Liverpool, Arsenal and Aston Villa. I think with the experience and depth of the squad he has, it will be easier for Pep to recover and create consistency in each of their matches in the future. Something that Ten Hag and Pochettino miss in their efforts to build their respective teams.

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My guesses and predictions finally match the expectations about Tottenham vs Newcastle, finally Tottenham can make a comeback by winning three points in this match with a score that is quite satisfying in my opinion. Ange really made changes to his squad that have been proven in this match, with this result it is clear that the fans' confidence will be restored for the downturn in their pride team in the previous few matches.

The first half until before the second half ended Tottenham really didn't give Newcastle the slightest breath, I thought at first Tottenham would be able to get a full victory without having to concede a goal but it turned out that towards the end of the match Newcastle could make one advantage through a goal from Joelinton which finally the match ended with a score of 4 - 1 for Tottenham's victory. With this good result, Tottenham can finally get a little further away from Manchester United's pursuit in terms of points difference. Next Tottenham will face Nottm Forest and I think this will not be a difficult match for them.
The win in this match was essential especially for the Confidence of the Tottenham players and the fans, Now Tottenham could be seen as one top team and a team that would also be gunning for the UCL spot next season. Newcastle who have 2 consecutive defeats now will be do worried especially as they head into the UCL where they need to secure the win in order to keep playoff in Europe which probably could be a reason the team didn’t play with too much energy

 Now Tottenham wins keeps them off clear the sight of Manchester United and hopefully 3 points secured when they play Forest will be a big boost as Man United will have to struggle when they face the league leaders, Liverpool at Anfield after facing Bayern Munich in a UCL match today, i don't think United would survive both games, i think they’ll loose against Bayern at Old Trafford and so lose at Anfield on the 17th.

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December 12, 2023, 08:10:25 PM

My guesses and predictions finally match the expectations about Tottenham vs Newcastle, finally Tottenham can make a comeback by winning three points in this match with a score that is quite satisfying in my opinion. Ange really made changes to his squad that have been proven in this match, with this result it is clear that the fans' confidence will be restored for the downturn in their pride team in the previous few matches.

The first half until before the second half ended Tottenham really didn't give Newcastle the slightest breath, I thought at first Tottenham would be able to get a full victory without having to concede a goal but it turned out that towards the end of the match Newcastle could make one advantage through a goal from Joelinton which finally the match ended with a score of 4 - 1 for Tottenham's victory. With this good result, Tottenham can finally get a little further away from Manchester United's pursuit in terms of points difference. Next Tottenham will face Nottm Forest and I think this will not be a difficult match for them.
The win in this match was essential especially for the Confidence of the Tottenham players and the fans, Now Tottenham could be seen as one top team and a team that would also be gunning for the UCL spot next season. Newcastle who have 2 consecutive defeats now will be do worried especially as they head into the UCL where they need to secure the win in order to keep playoff in Europe which probably could be a reason the team didn’t play with too much energy

 Now Tottenham wins keeps them off clear the sight of Manchester United and hopefully 3 points secured when they play Forest will be a big boost as Man United will have to struggle when they face the league leaders, Liverpool at Anfield after facing Bayern Munich in a UCL match today, i don't think United would survive both games, i think they’ll loose against Bayern at Old Trafford and so lose at Anfield on the 17th.
Totthenham really did a great job winning Newcastle in that encounter.It seems Totthenham have had a boost of confidence since they drew Manchester City when I thought City were going to flog them because Totteham was without most of their star players due to injury.Tothenham will continue their form after it seems they had a little deep in form which made them drop from the first position they were on the table to fifth.

I really see this season as a very competitive season where the people or the team that will win the league is not yet known.At the moment we can't say City or Arsenal or Liverpool nor Aston Villa are favourite for the tittle,every of those teams seems to be in good shape at the moment,and any of them can win the league as well.

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I don’t know how much time Ten Hag would seemingly deserve to prove himself at the club. He wasn’t picked as the coach yesterday and he has had in my opinion, enough time to study and understand the capabilities of all his players on the team. Apparently enough time to know and go after players he thought was best to achieve his goals as a manager for the club.
I’m not rooting for his removal as the coach, but I think he has had enough time on the job for his plans to start to show some general improvement in the team.
If you look at the table of the premier league competition, you will know that Ten Hag is doing a great work to Manchester united compare to Chelsea who are below Manchester united and there is a prove that Manchester united are not the poor team in this season. I believe Manchester united coach did well last season despite they did not win the trophy but they came out in 4th position that made people to believe that he is doing a great job and, with time he will definitely solve the crisis that is coming from the players which is causing them not to achieve good results so far.

There are many teams preparing to take this premier league trophy from Manchester city which people are seeing the sign around for Manchester city to drop down to 4th position and, it has given Arsenal the opportunity to occupy the first position.
I think sooner or later if there is no improvement in performance Ten Hag will be expelled from Old Trafford. It cannot be denied that Ten Hag performance is still better than Pochettino, but the two clubs have one thing in common, namely being inconsistent, sometimes playing quite well like title contenders and often playing games that are difficult for everyone to understand.

If United management will keep Ten Hag until the end of the season, there is nothing wrong with that, they hope something good will happen in the future. However, this means that management will continue to evaluate Ten Hag performance every week. In my opinion, Ten Hag doesn't need a lot of time, what he actually needs is luck, such as avoiding the storm of injuries and internal conflicts at the club.

Regarding Man City, they still have a chance to retain the EPL trophy even though they are under pressure from Liverpool, Arsenal and Aston Villa. I think with the experience and depth of the squad he has, it will be easier for Pep to recover and create consistency in each of their matches in the future. Something that Ten Hag and Pochettino miss in their efforts to build their respective teams.
Yeah actually I believe so because there is actually time for Manchester City to come back because even there last season performance they had similar challenges which make Arsenal to lead on there table for sometime and it was later Manchester City manages to peak form and beat Arsenal which make them to win the last year premier league.

So perhaps there could be a possibility of what happened last season on Manchester City to happen again on this premier league because in as much as most people are feeling that Manchester City will not win the league there could be a surprising outcome at the end of this season premier league

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December 12, 2023, 08:16:37 PM

I trust the process, but if there is no progress, obviously I am also disappointed. Including Man United, they suffered setbacks for this season. Maybe giving a chance is an option, and he should be given a deadline and maybe the end of the season if there is no improvement then he has to leave. He had been given a lot of money to buy, but he couldn't take advantage of it. The players and the philosophy of the game seem to be unsuitable for English football.

Yeah. We aren’t supposed to think about firing Ten Hag now. I don’t think it’s time for that, given that he did well last season, so why will they fire him this season? I think they should give him time again. This is football, and sometimes things don’t happen as we think, so therefore, I think Ten Hag has the ability to manage Manchester United. Even though we are still yet to see any improvement from Manchester United, maybe he will do something better next season. However, it seems to me that both players and the management are inconsistent in how their matches have been moving since I don’t see any action that has been taken in order for them to at least double up their performance to start showing some signs of getting their performance back. I hope Ten Hag will do something before the management asks him to leave.

I think it is better for Manchester United to change coach because Erik ten hag has done enough and I don't think even next season Manchester United can improve is better they should sack him and bring new coach to the team because is discipline players and I think Manchester United have not improved up thing today because I didn't see anything that Sancho did bad to him he just don't like him in the club again and he do to Ronaldo and that make Ronaldo leave the club, and if he continues like this, I don't think Manchester United can improve in their matches, because he is separating the players from each other. If Sancho is playing for Manchester United right now, I am confident he will help the team well, and if Manchester United do not qualify for the Champions League next season I will like they should fire him, because he will never change and they have a tough match against Liverpool this weekend after playing with Bayern Munich this night.

Ten Hag made many mistakes during the time when he started working in Manchester United and one reason for the bad situation in Manchester United is definitely Ten Hag. But this coach also had good performances during the last season and we can't forget that Manchester United could even get worse results without Manchester United in this team.
On the other hand, we are aware of his knowledge and we can't be sure if the next coach will be even better than him at Manchester United.
That's why I think they still should give him more time during this season.

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December 12, 2023, 08:51:25 PM

Ten Hag deserves more time at Manchester United to prove himself. He came in last season and finished in the top 4. He won silverware for the club. Yes he bought players he thought was good but it didn't turn out the way he expected, not all market turn out well. He should be given more time to show his working.

I don’t know how much time Ten Hag would seemingly deserve to prove himself at the club. He wasn’t picked as the coach yesterday and he has had in my opinion, enough time to study and understand the capabilities of all his players on the team. Apparently enough time to know and go after players he thought was best to achieve his goals as a manager for the club.
I’m not rooting for his removal as the coach, but I think he has had enough time on the job for his plans to start to show some general improvement in the team.
Last season he performed very well and everyone was happy with him. Let him complete two seasons before we can say something about him being fired. He brought champions league game to old Trafford and he won manager of the month of November which means he is doing something good, but not to the expectations of the fans. Let him finish this season. January transfer window will soon be open, let him buy players and do his magic.
For me,  Erik Ten Hag can not perform more than this, because he has been given enough money by Manchester United management to improve his team, but Erik Ten Hag keeps on buying players he has worked with in Ajax, and some of the players are not performing well. I was even surprised to see Erik Ten Hag winning the November Premier League Manager of the Month when he had been struggling to win matches.

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Yeah actually I believe so because there is actually time for Manchester City to come back because even there last season performance they had similar challenges which make Arsenal to lead on there table for sometime and it was later Manchester City manages to peak form and beat Arsenal which make them to win the last year premier league.

So perhaps there could be a possibility of what happened last season on Manchester City to happen again on this premier league because in as much as most people are feeling that Manchester City will not win the league there could be a surprising outcome at the end of this season premier league
But events like last season are difficult to repeat this season for Man City. Last season it could be said that the only competitors were Arsenal and Man City, which could be said to be close to each other on points, the other big teams last season were in decline and the points difference was also far from Arsenal and Man City, so Man City easily caught up with Arsenal in points. and at the same time Arsenal played unstable at the end of the season so Man City could win.

But this season feels different from last season because there are many teams competing to win the EPL title, including Liverpool, Arsenal, Aston Villa and possibly Tottenham. Moreover, Man City's squad is not the same as last season because several of their pillar players left and currently KDB is still injured. So I'm not sure Man City can make a surprise like last season until the end of the season.
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December 12, 2023, 08:55:54 PM

My guesses and predictions finally match the expectations about Tottenham vs Newcastle, finally Tottenham can make a comeback by winning three points in this match with a score that is quite satisfying in my opinion. Ange really made changes to his squad that have been proven in this match, with this result it is clear that the fans' confidence will be restored for the downturn in their pride team in the previous few matches.

The first half until before the second half ended Tottenham really didn't give Newcastle the slightest breath, I thought at first Tottenham would be able to get a full victory without having to concede a goal but it turned out that towards the end of the match Newcastle could make one advantage through a goal from Joelinton which finally the match ended with a score of 4 - 1 for Tottenham's victory. With this good result, Tottenham can finally get a little further away from Manchester United's pursuit in terms of points difference. Next Tottenham will face Nottm Forest and I think this will not be a difficult match for them.
The win in this match was essential especially for the Confidence of the Tottenham players and the fans, Now Tottenham could be seen as one top team and a team that would also be gunning for the UCL spot next season. Newcastle who have 2 consecutive defeats now will be do worried especially as they head into the UCL where they need to secure the win in order to keep playoff in Europe which probably could be a reason the team didn’t play with too much energy

 Now Tottenham wins keeps them off clear the sight of Manchester United and hopefully 3 points secured when they play Forest will be a big boost as Man United will have to struggle when they face the league leaders, Liverpool at Anfield after facing Bayern Munich in a UCL match today, i don't think United would survive both games, i think they’ll loose against Bayern at Old Trafford and so lose at Anfield on the 17th.
Totthenham really did a great job winning Newcastle in that encounter.It seems Totthenham have had a boost of confidence since they drew Manchester City when I thought City were going to flog them because Totteham was without most of their star players due to injury.Tothenham will continue their form after it seems they had a little deep in form which made them drop from the first position they were on the table to fifth.

I really see this season as a very competitive season where the people or the team that will win the league is not yet known.At the moment we can't say City or Arsenal or Liverpool nor Aston Villa are favourite for the tittle,every of those teams seems to be in good shape at the moment,and any of them can win the league as well.

Scoring twice should be a big booster for Richardlison since he hasn't found the back of the net already this season. Gladdens me to see him smiling after the game and while the game was ongoing. It was the first time for Son to score from the penalty box since the exit of Harry Kane and he didn't disappoint the fans ans his mates. He ended up converting that into goal. They played well from the back honestly with the return of Romero. He was quite reckless on the ball once again, but he was lucky to escape the red card.

Newcastle failed to prepare well once again ahead of the Champions League clash against Ac Milan tomorrow. I won't be sure what the outcome would be, but sure as hell they be going nowhere into the knockouts.

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December 12, 2023, 09:13:37 PM

For me,  Erik Ten Hag can not perform more than this, because he has been given enough money by Manchester United management to improve his team, but Erik Ten Hag keeps on buying players he has worked with in Ajax, and some of the players are not performing well. I was even surprised to see Erik Ten Hag winning the November Premier League Manager of the Month when he had been struggling to win matches.
I agree with you, ten hag keeps getting players he seem to be more familiar with rather than getting players who can get the job done and give him results which is what's expected of him and not the failures that have been experiencing due to his choice of players, I hope that by January he will be able to make better adjustment and be able get the team right back on track as he should.

In his first season at Manchester united he did really well but then recently it has turned out they he isn't efficient again and we can't say he needs time because that doesn't seem to be the issues rather it's basically about his tactics and choice of players. Hopefully he will improve before the season ends but then he is doing really well at the UCL tonight, their performance is such that they are probable to win, I was thinking by their performance over the weekend they wouldn't be able to face Munich well enough but it turned out otherwise.

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Building a team like what Arteta does and what Ten Hag does at Manchester United is very different. Arteta is organizing the team slowly, money is not the main weapon for Arteta to build Arsenal's strength, he has to take an approach between the main players working together solidly. While Ten Hag chose the Instant route, he relied on money to bring in quality players, of course the results could not be immediately satisfying as expected.
There are obstacles that occur, it takes time to unite players who consider themselves to have quality because they still have their own selfishness. The results of Ten Hag work can only be felt after this season ends, they will understand each other and begin to adapt to the strategies used by Ten Hag.

Wait a minute, am I not wrong and isn't it different in this case. Come on, let's flashback to last summer. As far as I know, especially this season, Arteta has received full support to bring in the players they were previously targeting. Arsenal's owner, for the first time providing a large budget, did not even hesitate to bring in Rice at a fantastic price. He is one of the players Arsenal bought at a fantastic price, which means Rice broke Arsenal's record with his transfer. Apart from that, some of the players that Arteta brought in were also not cheap. Kai Harvertz, brought in by Arsenal for a high price. even though, his performance was not very good when he played with Chelsea, especially last season. Jurrien Timber was brought in at a fairly expensive price, and he is even injured. Aaron Ramsdale played well as the Gunners' main goalkeeper, but Arteta instead brought in another goalkeeper, namely David Raya. Apart from that, there are actually still several players who are still being targeted by Arteta. Unfortunately, the transfer window was approaching close at that time. With only 3 players brought in by Arteta, Arsenal had to spend a lot of money.

Well, inversely proportional to Manchester United. First of all, I will disclaim that I am not a supporter of The Red Devil. It's just me, I like the style that Ten Hag implemented especially last season. There are clearly differences between Arsenal and Manchester United. United's acquisition issue was the main trigger from my point of view. which means, Glazer did not provide the budget that Ten Hag wanted. plus, United gets an FFP sanction. With limited funds, Ten Hag inevitably has to prepare to bring in players that fit the player spending budget he gets. By only bringing in two players, namely, Mason Mount and Onana, the budget has already run out. In the end, Ten Hag put pressure on the club to get a center forward. In the end, they brought Rasmus Hojlund to Old Trafford. As for other players such as Reguilon, Amrabat, they only have the status of loan players. So, it's natural that Ten Hag has limitations, plus their main players are injured, especially defenders. plus the case of Antony, Shanco, is all this Ten Hag's fault? btw, I am an Arsenal supporter. but I like Ten Hag's style, unfortunately, this season what he planned fell apart. Well, if I'm wrong, please correct me

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December 12, 2023, 09:16:09 PM

If you look at the table of the premier league competition, you will know that Ten Hag is doing a great work to Manchester united compare to Chelsea who are below Manchester united and there is a prove that Manchester united are not the poor team in this season. I believe Manchester united coach did well last season despite they did not win the trophy but they came out in 4th position that made people to believe that he is doing a great job and, with time he will definitely solve the crisis that is coming from the players which is causing them not to achieve good results so far.

There are many teams preparing to take this premier league trophy from Manchester city which people are seeing the sign around for Manchester city to drop down to 4th position and, it has given Arsenal the opportunity to occupy the first position.

Manchester United under Ten Hag last season was the best they have seen since the days of Jose Mourinho and that’s why the bar was set to high for Ten Hag himself. He won the carabao league cup in his first season, went to the knockout stages of two competitions and finished third in the league. For team in crisis like Manchester United it was a fair season. Forward to this season many fans actually want more than that as the bar as been raised but no they are struggling even though they aren’t far from the top in the league but Seven defeats at old trafford out of fourteen is bad considering they managed to lose just two the entire last season. All this are actually not bad for fans to complain but calling for Ten Hag’s sack is just out of it.

Manchester city are having hangover of last season multiple games and celebrations and I don’t think anybody will blame them for throwing the league away this season. The race aside then is now between Liverpool and Arsenal, although I will fancy an Arsenal win, Liverpool sitting at the top are just too hard to bring down and they look likely to win it than Arsenal

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Yeah actually I believe so because there is actually time for Manchester City to come back because even there last season performance they had similar challenges which make Arsenal to lead on there table for sometime and it was later Manchester City manages to peak form and beat Arsenal which make them to win the last year premier league.
Yeah I also have confidence in Manchester city to come back, since Aston villa which is in third position is just ahead of them with 2 points, Arsenal which is in second position is just ahead of them with 3 points and Liverpool is ahead of them with 4 points, the gap is still kind of small, and Manchester city should be able to cover up. Arsenal was leading Manchester City with reasonable points last season, but gradually Manchester City were able to cover up and they won the league last season, but this season won’t be a easy one for Manchester City, am not really satisfied with their performance yet, and this season will be a different one for Manchester City, because they won’t be able to win all the leagues Manchester City won last season.

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I don’t know how much time Ten Hag would seemingly deserve to prove himself at the club. He wasn’t picked as the coach yesterday and he has had in my opinion, enough time to study and understand the capabilities of all his players on the team. Apparently enough time to know and go after players he thought was best to achieve his goals as a manager for the club.
I’m not rooting for his removal as the coach, but I think he has had enough time on the job for his plans to start to show some general improvement in the team.
If you look at the table of the premier league competition, you will know that Ten Hag is doing a great work to Manchester united compare to Chelsea who are below Manchester united and there is a prove that Manchester united are not the poor team in this season. I believe Manchester united coach did well last season despite they did not win the trophy but they came out in 4th position that made people to believe that he is doing a great job and, with time he will definitely solve the crisis that is coming from the players which is causing them not to achieve good results so far.

There are many teams preparing to take this premier league trophy from Manchester city which people are seeing the sign around for Manchester city to drop down to 4th position and, it has given Arsenal the opportunity to occupy the first position.

Maybe you're right, but many fans want more. You need to know that Manchester United is the team that dominated the Premier League in the past, but so far they have never been the same again. The supporters yearn for a title that they have not achieved for a long time, so when the performance of the team and coach cannot bring the title, then of course bad things cannot be avoided.

Ten Hag's work in his first season was considered good because he was able to bring Manchester United to the Champions League. But in the second season, he seemed to have difficulty improving his team's performance or even just maintaining its performance. They have lost a lot of games and they are also almost certain to fail in the Champions League, so the pressure on Ten Hag's shoulders is even greater.

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