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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 89 (46.4%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.1%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.3%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.6%)
Manchester United - 14 (7.3%)
Totenham - 7 (3.6%)
Newcastle - 2 (1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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July 15, 2023, 06:32:51 PM
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Manchester United's opening proposal for Andre Onana was £38.5 million (€45 million), but Inter Milan values the goalkeeper at £51 million (€60 million), so the parties are attempting to reach an agreement. The 27-year-old ex-Cameroon international joined Inter on a five-year deal from Ajax last summer. Inter director Piero Ausilio has stated that offers for Onana will be considered as the club looks to acquire funds to support a move for Chelsea striker Romelu Lukaku.

Manchester United have reached an agreement and agreed to pay €50 million + €5 million next is a personal negotiation maybe related to salary or other bonuses, if all parties agree then next Monday it will definitely be announced anyway 90% Andre Onana will move to Old Trafford. I don't understand why Manchester United are hunting for this goalkeeper even though Andre Onana is not a young player I mean his career is predicted only for next 5 years is there really no other choice? If only for a while then no problem  but if for the long term this is clearly wrong.

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July 15, 2023, 06:33:51 PM
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Manchester United's opening proposal for Andre Onana was £38.5 million (€45 million), but Inter Milan values the goalkeeper at £51 million (€60 million), so the parties are attempting to reach an agreement. The 27-year-old ex-Cameroon international joined Inter on a five-year deal from Ajax last summer. Inter director Piero Ausilio has stated that offers for Onana will be considered as the club looks to acquire funds to support a move for Chelsea striker Romelu Lukaku.
Manchester United should not undervalue Onana who is a goalkeeper that they really need since they no longer have a first choice goalkeeper. The price that Inter Milan have demanded is fair enough and Manchester United can afford to pay unless they have an alternative. Onana has experience and was very good in the Champions league as a shot stopper also as goalkeeper that can pass the ball from behind. Manchester United will increase their interest if other clubs show interest and try to start negotiation with Inter Milan for Onana.

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July 15, 2023, 06:39:16 PM
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Timber is definitely a great signing, didn't expect it to be done this quickly for sure, I heard about it just the other day and today suddenly it's already done, that's definitely a very fast pace. I hope that it gets better and we get to see something much larger. I am not saying that we can't have quick transfers but we are so used to having long term talks, like we are literally talking about Mbappe going to Real Madrid for the past few seasons, and it's more likely next season and all.

So, you "hear" about the rumors before it happens, this wasn't like that, we heard about it and a few days later it was done and signed. In any case, it's a good decision by Arsenal, they were so close to winning, and now they have better players.

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July 15, 2023, 06:47:35 PM
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Manchester United should not undervalue Onana who is a goalkeeper that they really need since they no longer have a first choice goalkeeper. The price that Inter Milan have demanded is fair enough and Manchester United can afford to pay unless they have an alternative. Onana has experience and was very good in the Champions league as a shot stopper also as goalkeeper that can pass the ball from behind. Manchester United will increase their interest if other clubs show interest and try to start negotiation with Inter Milan for Onana.

I think it’s obvious Manchester United wants to bring over Onana to the squad and understandably so, Onana has some impressive stats. I don’t think they’re trying to undervalue him. Just cause there is a price, doesn’t mean you can’t try to negotiate for less. No doubt, Onana has great potential as well as experience under his belt and I personally think he would make a great addition.
Hopefully, both parties would come to an agreement soon and finalize the deal. Manchester United needs a goalie like Onana who would take over from De Gea.
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July 15, 2023, 06:50:42 PM
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De Gea is getting old and maybe that's why Manchester United tried to decrease his salary for the next season since is a famous payer and achieved many goals for this team. It was not good to ask this from De Gea however I think it was not about salary but that's mostly because of Ten Hag, he prefers to work with the goalkeeper he had at Ajax
Not only that De Gea is getting old, De Gea is at the same time doesn't fit in, with Ten Hag's modern kind of goalkeeper. That was among the reasons Manchester United moved for his salary to be decreased. Instead of accepting the pay cut, he prefers to be a free agent instead of accepting the new offer given to him.

To Manchester United, they felt like, it is preferable for them to sign another capable goalkeeper named Onana from Ajax than to renew De Gea's contract with the same high weekly payment, of which he has lost focus and doesn't fit in today's modern goalkeeper who can hold and pace ball without fear
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July 15, 2023, 06:51:16 PM
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Manchester United recent advancement and top fur finish are undeniable signs that Erik ten Hag has made positive modifications. But in the next seasons he will unavoidably face higher expectations. The team will be encouraged to achieve new heights by the board expected demand for a consistent title challenge. Regarding their hopes of playing in the Champions League their first objective should be to successfully go through the first few rounds of the new format and qualify for the round of 16. While accomplishing all of these goals is not impossible doing so is an incredibly difficult endeavour that calls for even higher performance levels. Utilising the transfer window effectively should be a primary focus for United in order to increase their chances of achieving these lofty goals, especially with the purchase of a quality center forward.p
Arrival of Erik ten Haq improved performance and quality of the Manchester United which is good chance for them after long time now things are going more improved because he is learning from his last season mistakes and trying to fix all things which give them problems in last season with this as they are doing hopefully now they could be title contender in next season which is surely going to be more interesting because now they are at their best and surely can challenge champions Manchester City as well.

With the entry into Champions League and also fighting for the league title is surely going to be tough but as they are having enough quality players hopefully we will have them at their best few new players are going to be brought back glory days with their quality performance.

Manchester United has been going through a bad time recently. They are certainly not a club that has been achieving glory in recent days. But Ten Hag has been able to improve the situation at Manchester United. Even though the start of his managerial journey was very questionable for a lot of players. Especially when he had problems with Cristiano Ronaldo. Of course, Christiano Ronaldo is the second best if not the best player in the world. We also have to remember that at that time Cristiano Ronaldo was performing really well for Manchester United. He was having good personal achievements and solo performances. I still do not think what happened with Cristiano Ronaldo was actually good. But it seems like the manager has turned things around and also bringing in good results right now. Let's see how they perform in the next season.

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July 15, 2023, 06:52:31 PM
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@fiatless, you got it wrong. the David Dagae never told Manchester united to add his salary, David dagea even cut off his salary to remain in Manchester united. But Erik Teg don't want him to stay anymore, his target in on Onana,  no keep will perform better in front of Maguire, for many season David Dagea was Manchester united player of the season, he did his best for the club and the end up badly, there was no farewell honour to him as legend.

let's watch out how Andrew Onana will perform, this season.
You are right, David De gea requested for cut off in his pay just to stay in the club, but I don’t know why Ten Hag is not just longer interested in De gea, I don’t know maybe he is having person problem with the guy, we all know De gea performance wasn’t really good in some matches Manchester United played Last season, but he still tried for Manchester United, I wasn’t blaming only De gea for some errors that happened in last season, some of those errors are caused by the defenders, I see no reason why Ten Hag will still be using Maguire in some of his matches, that’s really disastrous, ten hag is blaming De gea for some errors caused by defenders. Since De gea is now useless to Manchester United, let’s see how Onana is going to perform for them, let’s just hope they don’t regret losing De gea.

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July 15, 2023, 06:59:00 PM
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Liverpool experienced a decline in form because Mane left, as well as when Ronaldo left Manchester United to join Real Madrid.
Good players will definitely be missed by their erstwhile club, but if the team is made up of quality players, their absence will not be felt that much or for a long period of time. Liverpool didn't have a bad season because of Sadio Mane's exit, they had a terrible season because most of their players were in horrendous form and the manager wasn't able to bring the best out of them. I think clubs should always allow their players to leave if they say they want to, a football club should not be built around a few players but the entire team.
The departure of Sadio Mane broke a potent striking link that was a terror to any club defense in the world. Mo Salah and the Senegalese striker understood each other so much that it was easy to get goals with less effort. But Liverpool began to recover towards the end of the season and were able to at least achieve a Europa League slot. Clubs should also groom younger players that will replace stars player because they can leave at any time. Players should also be allowed to leave because forcing them to stay will make them ineffective.

Man United have wanted to keep David De Gea for next season, but the contract and salary deals are the main obstacles and demanding to be the first choice in the Man United squad cannot be given by Ten Hag. Because Ten Hag prefers goalkeepers who can build attacks from the back, which is why currently Onana is targeted to replace De Gea. It's only natural that Ten Hag did this because every coach has his own vision and mission in building a squad and so does he.
David De Gea was one of the highest-paid goalkeepers in Europe. But his performance has reduced drastically in recent times, yet he still wants the same wage. Manchester United is unwilling to grant him such a lucrative contract. Andree Onana will be a better and cheaper alternative. He is still young and will spend more time with the Red Devils. If the deal to bring Onana fails the club might consider bringing back the loaned Dean Henderson from Nottingham Forest and also put much effort to sign the Japanese international goalkeeper Zion Suzuki.
@fiatless, you got it wrong. the David Dagae never told Manchester united to add his salary, David dagea even cut off his salary to remain in Manchester united. But Erik Teg don't want him to stay anymore, his target in on Onana,  no keep will perform better in front of Maguire, for many season David Dagea was Manchester united player of the season, he did his best for the club and the end up badly, there was no farewell honour to him as legend.

let's watch out how Andrew Onana will perform, this season.

De Gea is getting old and maybe that's why Manchester United tried to decrease his salary for the next season since is a famous payer and achieved many goals for this team. It was not good to ask this from De Gea however I think it was not about salary but that's mostly because of Ten Hag, he prefers to work with the goalkeeper he had at Ajax

This is like an era where whether want to agree or not, De Gea must be able to accept that the era for him in the Red Devils squad is over.  While several issues such as salary, conflicts with management, and others is diversion of issues to make De Gea aware that it is time to the goalkeeper left Manchester. Even though the age of 32 is still quite effective for a goalkeeper, but maybe the way it works is different and is no long the same.

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July 15, 2023, 07:31:04 PM
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De Gea is getting old and maybe that's why Manchester United tried to decrease his salary for the next season since is a famous payer and achieved many goals for this team. It was not good to ask this from De Gea however I think it was not about salary but that's mostly because of Ten Hag, he prefers to work with the goalkeeper he had at Ajax
Initially his salary was going to be cut by 100k per week and De Gea agreed somehow Manchester United wanted to renew his contract again and here De Gea did not agree and decided to move, we don't know if he moved because his salary were lower or he felt disrespected as a legend. actually Manchester United were criticized for what they did to De Gea but their decision is fixed and does not change anything.
After all, De Gea's salary increase at that time was due to Manchester United making efforts to restrain De Gea so hat not leaving to Real Madrid. So, if at this moment De Gea's salary is lowered, then I think that's fine because after all, age will certainly affect whether a player deserves to be paid handsomely or not. After all, if De Gea still wants to be paid handsomely at a no longer young age, then De Gea can choose to play in the Saudi Professional League. Because there are clubs that play in the Saudi Professional League, they are still willing to pay a premium for legendary players who are over 30 years old.

Some players want to be paid handsomely even when they are not in their prime anymore. That's something I have seen a lot of players do. They just do not want to acknowledge that the best days of their career are behind themselves. De Gea is one of those players. I do agree that some of his failures can be credited towards Harry Maguire. But that does not change the fact that he is getting older and he is also not as good as he was before. So I think it is only right that Manchester United does not want to give him the same amount of money that they did before.

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July 15, 2023, 07:45:12 PM
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Arsenal have spent a lot of money but I wouldn't say they have been able to build a strong squad. We have seen many times in the past that Arsenal have brought in players at high prices, but their performances haven't improved much. Arsenal often forget to pick the right players for their squad. And so it cannot be said that Arsenal have successfully built a strong squad. How the Arsenal team will perform next season is still unknown. Also, Liverpool, and Manchester United clubs also continue to try to add talented players to their squads.
The EPL League Next season will be very competitive. I feel there are so many teams moving in this transfer window. Spurs and Chelsea are sleeping and could be very good challengers for the top of the table. And Liverpool will be a giant especially not being in the Champions League.

But I see Arsenal have a top squad now. Even though, as you said, the expensive players bought by Arsenal are always not optimal when playing, this time I believe in Arteta's strategy. Because If they can't win the premier league next season, it will be a disappointment. Man City will probably lose more players before the end of the transfer window and will have a few transition issues. This is the best chance for Arsenal to win the Epl league in my opinion.

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July 15, 2023, 07:46:15 PM
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So now PSG wants to make it difficult for Bayern Munchen to get Harry Kane.I think Harry Kane moving out of England is not the best of moves for him as we don't know if he will become acquainted that easily in another league although both teams who want him reside in relatively easy leagues compared to Serie A or La Liga which would be more difficult.It all depends on which team offers more and if I were Kane considering the age near 30 I would be wise to choose PSG in this context as they surely would pay me more money and both teams play in Champions League.Let's see how this saga ends as it is one of the hottest so far in the summer transfer window.

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David De Gea was one of the highest-paid goalkeepers in Europe. But his performance has reduced drastically in recent times, yet he still wants the same wage. Manchester United is unwilling to grant him such a lucrative contract. Andree Onana will be a better and cheaper alternative. He is still young and will spend more time with the Red Devils. If the deal to bring Onana fails the club might consider bringing back the loaned Dean Henderson from Nottingham Forest and also put much effort to sign the Japanese international goalkeeper Zion Suzuki.

De Gea's performance is not too bad He is even included in the ranks of the 4 best goalkeepers in the Premier League based on the number of goals conceded after all the success of Manchester United finished in 3rd place was due to De Gea's efforts it's just that Manchester thinks his ability will slowly decrease and they need to regenerate. I agree if the salary should be lowered and allocated to a new goalkeeper unfortunately De Gea did not agree and had to be released.
Although De Gea did not perform badly, Manchester United may not have been able to perform as well as before, so they may have come to such a decision. If De Gea has been offered a cut by Manchester United to stay at the club, De Gea should have taken a cut to stay at the club as he is an old enough goalkeeper to leave the club at this moment. Don't wait for money. If he could have improved his game a little more by playing a regular goalkeeper for Manchester United for one more season at a reduced salary, Manchester United might have renewed his contract with him again next season. It is natural that he will have to leave the team if he does not take a pay cut according to the terms of the club.

No, their plan has never been to offer De Gea a new contract, but it all depended on whether they can find a new goalkeeper and that was an open secret. As soon as they successfully found an alternative for De Gea, they refrained from negotiating any further with him and that was expected by everyone. The goal was to sign a much younger goalkeeper who can actually still develop and get better and who is less prone to fatal mistakes during the game like De Gea had them more and more often in the last few years. 
That's true because the harsh reality is that De Gea made too many mistakes at key moments last season, and that has been a highlight for Erik Ten Hag since taking over as Manchester United coach last season.
and reportedly Erik Ten Hag has a football philosophy similar to Guardiola, if you remember like Joe Hart Manchester City's best goalkeeper at that time. Guardiola dropped Joe Hart and selected Willy Caballero for his first Premier League game in goal, and he knows exactly what his club needs like Erik Ten Hag De Gea did for Manchester United.

Yes, that is the point. Guardiola is quite a bit more extreme in terms of passing accuracy and that every player has to deliver an enormous performance level in accuracy and reliability, but ten Haag likes that style as well and it doesn't matter how someone puts it or is even generous with the mistakes De Gea is making, every time when a ball was passed back to De Gea the whole team needed to take a deep breath because it was possible that De Gea is about to screw that game with a huge mistake. I haven't been watching Onana a lot I must confess. Is he a goalkeeper who likes to participate in defensive passing and setting up attacks from the first defense line?

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July 15, 2023, 08:06:23 PM
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Arsenal spent heavily this transfer window, if I am not mistaken they spent more money than any other team this transfer window whether in EPL or even elsewhere?
€226.6m given to bring Declan Rice, Kai Havertz and Jurrien Timber.
Gunners are now the team with the most market value among teams in EPL! If it shows something then it is how serious the stuff and Arteta are to bring a title or two for the team next season. Manchester City and Guardiola should be worried about its titles.
There is nothing to worry about even if Arsenal have spent so much money building up their squad. A winning mentality cannot be built with money, it is something different so I don't think Manchester City should be worried about the title. Arsenal will certainly be expected to get better after bringing in several quality players such as Declan Rice, Kai Havertz and Jurrien Timber, but all of them can never guarantee a title.

Manchester City is the team that has dominated the Premier League the most in recent seasons, so I think it will be difficult for Arsenal to stop that domination as long as Manchester City has a quality squad and coach. I'd say City are the favourites, but I was expecting something different from Manchester United.

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July 15, 2023, 08:10:35 PM
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The downside of this is that if they start from scratch as you say, it's more difficult, because if they didn't do anything with the superstars then things are tougher, but obviously the problem here isn't the players, the problem is the technical director who He is not capable of how to manage his players, if Chelsea starts buying young players they are going to do the same as last season, they are not going to get any kind of victory, and it is sad because Chelsea have a lot to give, The team has good players who can make a difference, at the moment things in terms of the team they have are still very good , it's a pity that they let so many good players go.

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Inter Milan are reportedly upset with Romelu Lukaku as the Chelsea forward is not responding to messages from his teammates and manager amid Juventus' interest.
This comes as the forward has been granted additional time away from Chelsea while other players have already reported back for pre-season.
According to Italian journalist  Gianluca Di Marzio, Inter are 'annoyed by the attitiude of Lukaku, who isn't responding to the managers or his former teammates'
Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12301135/Inter-Milan-annoyed-attitude-Lukaku-Juventus-look-hijack-deal-Chelsea-star.html

I believe a lot of players have actually decided to stay in Chelsea because Chelsea is not even playing in any European competition right now. Not even in the Europa League. And the players who are leaving Chelsea are certainly good players who want to perform in the European competition. They wanted the silverware. Chelsea is not being able to provide them with what they want right now. At the same time is there other clubs who are going to compete in European competitions actively trying to get them into the team. So it makes a lot of sense that the players decided to leave Chelsea.

Lukaku is basically waiting for a better offer from the Saudi league in my opinion. Otherwise, I do not find any valid reason for him to avoid his own teammates or the potential transfer that can be made. Juventus is not a bad club. He is not responding to any messages because he wants more money. I don’t think he actually cares about his career anymore. Money is the only thing he wants.

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July 15, 2023, 08:20:29 PM
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There is nothing to worry about even if Arsenal have spent so much money building up their squad. A winning mentality cannot be built with money, it is something different so I don't think Manchester City should be worried about the title. Arsenal will certainly be expected to get better after bringing in several quality players such as Declan Rice, Kai Havertz and Jurrien Timber, but all of them can never guarantee a title.

Manchester City is the team that has dominated the Premier League the most in recent seasons, so I think it will be difficult for Arsenal to stop that domination as long as Manchester City has a quality squad and coach. I'd say City are the favourites, but I was expecting something different from Manchester United.

If you say it is difficult for Arsenal to compete or catch Manchester City I disagree due to the fact that Arsenal almost won the title this season but towards the end of the season injury problems came and messed them up and now what Arsenal is doing is to anticipate the same problem, another record proves Arsenal are above Manchester city in months So this season Arsenal really can not be underestimated. Anyway, I think the competition this season will be tougher than last season especially the competition in the champions league zone.

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July 15, 2023, 08:26:31 PM
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So now PSG wants to make it difficult for Bayern Munchen to get Harry Kane.I think Harry Kane moving out of England is not the best of moves for him as we don't know if he will become acquainted that easily in another league although both teams who want him reside in relatively easy leagues compared to Serie A or La Liga which would be more difficult.It all depends on which team offers more and if I were Kane considering the age near 30 I would be wise to choose PSG in this context as they surely would pay me more money and both teams play in Champions League.Let's see how this saga ends as it is one of the hottest so far in the summer transfer window.

After listening to Bayern Munich owners today "on fabrizio channel" about speaking with harry kane and communications are going well; i am optimistic that Harry Kane will take the move to Bayern Munich. Better team, Quiet league, better wages and a big chance of winning the treble compared to what Tottenham Hotspur offers. Now Bayern Munich just need to deal with Daniel Levy and get Kane earlier for pre season.

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July 15, 2023, 08:59:43 PM
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Declan Rice joined Arsenal officially and they paid 105m for him I don't think if this play is worth paying this huge amount of money for him but after hiring Declan Rice at this price the fans expect to see a much better performance from Arteta and his players in the next season.
After Kai Havertz and Jurrien Timber for 65m and 36m Rice is the third played joining Arsenal as the most expensive English player.




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July 15, 2023, 09:38:14 PM
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There is nothing to worry about even if Arsenal have spent so much money building up their squad. A winning mentality cannot be built with money, it is something different so I don't think Manchester City should be worried about the title. Arsenal will certainly be expected to get better after bringing in several quality players such as Declan Rice, Kai Havertz and Jurrien Timber, but all of them can never guarantee a title.

Manchester City is the team that has dominated the Premier League the most in recent seasons, so I think it will be difficult for Arsenal to stop that domination as long as Manchester City has a quality squad and coach. I'd say City are the favourites, but I was expecting something different from Manchester United.
The competition in the next season will be even more interesting because several teams have shown good progress in strengthening their team, Like their Arsenal they have brought in some very good players which was done by Arteta in this transfer window. In fact, we also see a good change that happened to Liverpool in this transfer window because they signed quality players to make up for their weaknesses last season.

However there are some core players in the squad who left in this transfer window such as Xhaka who joined Leverkusen in this transfer window of course arteta has found the right players to cover the gap left by Xhaka. Apart from that, Firmino, who went to the Saudi Arabian league with Al-Ahli and Liverpool, has not found a replacement for himself, even though they already have Gakpo, but they also have to buy another middle sticker. For Manchester City, they have found players who are ready to cover the gap left by Gundogan. Speaking of candidates for the title next season I think I still believe in Manchester city because they have a quality squad and a quality coach and for Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United are quite strong competitors for Manchester City.

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July 15, 2023, 09:57:40 PM
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So now PSG wants to make it difficult for Bayern Munchen to get Harry Kane.
If Harry Kane dreams to win UCL trophy, he must choose Bayern Munich over PSG. Although PSG may offer a bigger salary, they have bad history in UCL. PSG only offers the league trophy, it is not the right place if Harry Kane wants UCL trophy.

I think Harry Kane moving out of England is not the best of moves for him as we don't know if he will become acquainted that easily in another league
Do you think he must stay in Tottenham until he retires?
Moving to another league will be no problem since he is in the best league in the world now. I think EPL is the most competitive league, it is the most difficult league. When he play in Bundesliga or League 1, in theory it must be easier.

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Manchester United have improved their performance quite much since Erik ten Hag took over. He started with finishing in top four and qualifying for the Champions League already. This is a really good start but the board and fans will expect more than this next season. Manchester United will need to be in a title challenge as soon as possible like in the old times.

The current squad is actually quite good for that goal but there is still some weakness. They really need a striker and goalkeeper signings now. Onana deal is nearly done though like I said before. But it is still ambiguous who they will go for when it comes to striker signing. I said Hojlund before but I haven't heard of any offer.
Manchester United team has improved very well under Erik Ten Hag and both the board and fans are happy about this.
But then everyone wants more for Manchester United but I do not agree with you, the current squad cannot do anything more than they did last season if they do not make significant changes to the squad.
Do you remember that at a time Manchester United would have been strong contenders of the English Premier League title if they got squad depth. They were reusing their squad like Arsenal and eventually caught up by fatigue.

I have also stated that there is still some weakness in the squad. After improving the quality of all areas to an acceptable level they will be fully ready to fight for the Premier League title finally. Erik ten Hag already has strategies which work really well. As long as he has the kind of squad in his hands there is nothing stopping from fighting for the league title seriously.

Fighting against Manchester City won't be easy at all. But maybe they can at least be the second strongest team of the league this season. Because we don't know if Arsenal can keep this level this season as well. They have a quite young squad which doesn't reassure high consistency over years.

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