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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 90 (46.4%)
Liverpool - 32 (16.5%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.1%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.6%)
Manchester United - 14 (7.2%)
Totenham - 7 (3.6%)
Newcastle - 2 (1%)
Other - 3 (1.5%)
Total Voters: 194

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October 02, 2023, 11:46:31 AM
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Man United spent a lot of money this season but if we look at where they stand now, it seems that the squad that Ten Hag is building is still inadequate. Ten Hag should know very well that Man United's defense is a weakness that must be addressed immediately. Instead of signing a quality defender, Ten Hag prefers to bring in a goalkeeper, striker, and 2 new midfielders. Indeed, there are Jonny Evans and Sergio Reguilon, but that is not a solution to Man United's backline problems because what Man United needs is a strong, world-class defender.

Ten Hag might not be the right one for the job. What saved him was the result of last season, which was possible because Tottenham, Chelsea and Liverpool played a weak season. What if they played a better season? I am sure that Manchester United would not have qualified for the Champions League. Money is kind of irrelevant as some teams now prove with their performances. First and foremost Chelsea of course, but money is most effective when it is in the hands of a manager who understands all the details of his team. I don't think that an extra 200m would get ten Hag very far.

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October 02, 2023, 11:50:10 AM
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I don't understand why bookmakers give such high odds for Fulham (4.0) vs Chelsea (2.0)... Chelsea have only managed to score one goal in September... I won't say how Chelsea are playing away this season... Of course there could be a draw today, but I think Fulham have a better chance of winning...
I thought the same thing, but it's not a problem to give big odds given the fact that Fulham is currently better than Chelsea. Maybe because Chelsea is a big name which makes the odds small. While statistically it is profitable for me to bet temporarily on Fulham, there's no harm in it, right?
I also think that currently the performance of Chelsea and Fullham is actually not that different. These two clubs are currently at almost the same level. Yes, Chelsea has a big name and its reputation before the change of club owner was very good. But now the club's reputation is starting to weaken. The impact of the inconsistent performance of the Chelsea squad last season and at the start of this season has become worse.
The quality of the players is that Chelsea has an advantage. But to be honest, the blues have not yet found the best formation and Pochettino still seems confused about what steps he can use to bring Chelsea back to maximum performance. Pochettino has tried many strategies but almost all of them have not produced satisfactory results.

Fullham should be more enthusiastic in this match. He will compete in front of his own supporters at Craven Cottage Stadium. But I prefer to skip betting on this one. Because Chelsea could indeed show positive improvements in this match. Or it could be the other way around, namely that Chelsea is getting worse. The uncertainty resulting from this inconsistency makes everything even more difficult to predict.

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October 02, 2023, 11:57:28 AM
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I don't understand why bookmakers give such high odds for Fulham (4.0) vs Chelsea (2.0)... Chelsea have only managed to score one goal in September... I won't say how Chelsea are playing away this season... Of course there could be a draw today, but I think Fulham have a better chance of winning...
I thought the same thing, but it's not a problem to give big odds given the fact that Fulham is currently better than Chelsea. Maybe because Chelsea is a big name which makes the odds small. While statistically it is profitable for me to bet temporarily on Fulham, there's no harm in it, right?
I also think that currently the performance of Chelsea and Fullham is actually not that different. These two clubs are currently at almost the same level. Yes, Chelsea has a big name and its reputation before the change of club owner was very good. But now the club's reputation is starting to weaken. The impact of the inconsistent performance of the Chelsea squad last season and at the start of this season has become worse.
The quality of the players is that Chelsea has an advantage. But to be honest, the blues have not yet found the best formation and Pochettino still seems confused about what steps he can use to bring Chelsea back to maximum performance. Pochettino has tried many strategies but almost all of them have not produced satisfactory results.

Fullham should be more enthusiastic in this match. He will compete in front of his own supporters at Craven Cottage Stadium. But I prefer to skip betting on this one. Because Chelsea could indeed show positive improvements in this match. Or it could be the other way around, namely that Chelsea is getting worse. The uncertainty resulting from this inconsistency makes everything even more difficult to predict.
Chelsea has been poor with performance since the start of the season which was unexpected of them after the club's management spent hugely to sign quality players to the club in the summer and I think the club's manager Mauricio Pochettino has to take the blames for his team poor form.
That being said, I think Chelsea are going to win their match tonight against Fulham despite the fact that they'll be playing at Fulham's home. Mauricio Pochettino knows that a defeat tonight will end their hopes of finishing in the top four at the end of the season even when it's still  early days of the season.

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October 02, 2023, 11:58:45 AM
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Fullham should be more enthusiastic in this match. He will compete in front of his own supporters at Craven Cottage Stadium. But I prefer to skip betting on this one. Because Chelsea could indeed show positive improvements in this match. Or it could be the other way around, namely that Chelsea is getting worse. The uncertainty resulting from this inconsistency makes everything even more difficult to predict.
That's why the odds is high, Fulham to win is @3.80, draw @3.50 and Chelsea to win is @2.05, which option you bet will give a good amount of return. I'd say Fulham looks more convinced to win in this match, there are so many Chelsea's players currently injured.

Again and again Chelsea let Mudryk become a starter when he has not contribute anything for 19 matches. Cheesy

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October 02, 2023, 12:00:29 PM
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I don't understand why bookmakers give such high odds for Fulham (4.0) vs Chelsea (2.0)... Chelsea have only managed to score one goal in September... I won't say how Chelsea are playing away this season... Of course there could be a draw today, but I think Fulham have a better chance of winning...

Chelsea is a big name despite their present woefully performance in EPL. bookmarkers are just trying to cause confusion in the mind of gamblers. If not for Chelsea's poor performance since last season, this match is not something to debate on but in all honesty, Fulham seems to be stronger than Chelsea now. Although Chelsea beat Fulham in the summer series and remain unbeaten through out the summer but everything changed immediately the league begin. The Fulham back is fragile and can be easily penetrated but unfortunately Chelsea on the other hand lacks creative scorer to the finishing. Just as you presumed, the match might either end draw or Fulham take the three points. Any otherwise result will shock everyone based on the already established protocols.

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October 02, 2023, 12:11:17 PM
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~snip~
Now all I expect of Pochettino is to prove Domino's wrong by winning today's match against Fulham. I see this as a challenge.

Blaming Pochettino seems unfair. Indeed, statements about young players about Chelsea's game are not the right reason. Chelsea are currently in a state of relegation of achievements and strength. This has also been the case for Arsenal with Arteta. Maybe Pochettino has the same fate, they can't instantly build a team. They need time like Arteta used to make me unbelievable. But at the moment Arsenal have changed and I am quite reluctant with Arteta. Next is Chelsea, I think Chelsea don't need to have big targets this season. Game improvement and strength are the main focus. Chelseaa seem to have to learn from Arsenal.

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October 02, 2023, 12:20:05 PM
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Liverpool has been releasing a statement regarding the problem with PGMOL.

What's happening with liverpool?
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Liverpool lost 2-1 at Tottenham on Saturday in game full of contentious decisions
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Miscommunication between referee and VAR led to Luis Diaz's strike being chalked off


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Liverpool have now released a statement on Saturday's controversial events.

The statement reads: "Liverpool Football Club acknowledges PGMOL's admission of their failures last night. It is clear that the correct application of the laws of the game did not occur, resulting in sporting integrity being undermined.

"We fully accept the pressures that match officials work under but these pressures are supposed to be alleviated, not exacerbated, by the existence and implementation of VAR.

https://www.90min.com/posts/liverpool-release-statement-following-var-controversy-tottenham-loss


Very sad to see that if liverpool was accepting unfair decision from what happeend due to the var. Var needs to be evaluated even more. It's caused by liverpool was not the only one. There have been many clubs were also getting disadvantage due to the var.
I think that this tech is not perfect yet being used in the EPL.

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October 02, 2023, 12:25:18 PM
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I forgot the on-side goal. That was strange because if I understood the whole scene correctly, they didn't show a line in the VAR review on TV. I wondered why they wouldn't do that? But if anything was wrong there, wouldn't they be held accountable after the game as well? It would not be repeated of course, but if Liverpool says there was something wrong or they request the data, I can imagine that the VAR data is stored and has to be available for checks afterwards. Because I agree that the goal was very suspiciously given as off-side and hence taken back. I was like wow, I want to see that line. But they just didn't provide it. If for some reason it was so close that even their computers couldn't draw it, then it should be a goal.

I think so because if it was a clear off-side, you'd see the lines on the screen but it wasn't there. They went over the decision to disallow the goal very quickly.

Anyway, Liverpool has issued a statement following PGMOL's acknowledgement yesterday: https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/liverpool-fc-statement-5?amp=1

It would be great to see PGMOL being held accountable otherwise, these kinds of "significant human errors" is bound to repeat itself in the premier league. It's outright unfair to any club that is dealt that hand.

Thanks for sharing and this is really great into what's happening. I missed all of this and you know what, imagine the worst case scenario and this didn't happen at the beginning of the season, but in a head to head race on the last two matchdays when the title was still to be won for two teams and one team would be affected by such a decision. Skipping a goal scene like this and not drawing the graphic line with a computer is something that goes beyond me. I don't get it. I would really like to know whether they had technical issues or prefer to claim "significant human error". Both is really bad because a computer should be able to calculate it unless, and this is a problem, we are talking about 0.5 mm or something like that. Can their computers even catch that? I would also like to know the tolerances because it was very close but if I had to guess, I would say it was a goal. That is unacceptable.


Anybody who watched the game would know that was a clear on-side but the referrees were very quick to dismiss it and after queries from Liverpool players for the goal to be checked, they did and immediately showed that VAR has officially disallowed the goal. What's more interesting is that this happened early in the first half long before Tottenham even scored.

Like you said, if this had happened when each game might decide if title races are a hit or miss, such "significant human errors" can be catastrophic. I thought this is why we have VAR in the first place?

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October 02, 2023, 12:29:52 PM
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I don't understand why bookmakers give such high odds for Fulham (4.0) vs Chelsea (2.0)... Chelsea have only managed to score one goal in September... I won't say how Chelsea are playing away this season... Of course there could be a draw today, but I think Fulham have a better chance of winning...
From my point of view, Chelsea will not win this match knowing fully well that Fulham is a strong team this season. This season Chelsea has nothing to offer so I no longer put my hope on Chelsea rather I support there opponent, am definetly watching this match I want to see what Chelsea can do.

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October 02, 2023, 01:24:36 PM
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Man United is having too many problems under Ten Hag this season, and the pressure on him is getting bigger and bigger. They are in crisis after losing consecutively in important tournaments. Coach Erik Ten Hag is at risk of being fired if he cannot improve the team's situation. He has no excuses for Man United's worst start in the Premier League. The home crowd booed Old Trafford throughout the match, suffering a bitter 0-1 defeat to Crystal Palace.
Maguire doesn't start, who will be the scapegoat for Man United fans, coach Erik Ten?

The coach is the main issue for Manchester United right now; I have never seen a coach like this before. Manchester United has good players who can play well if they have a good coach who can put the team in a good formation. Earlier, I had blamed Onanna for not being as smart as a good custodian, but now I can see that he is making an effort.


Yes, I also agree with your thoughts. The main problem will be coach Erik ten Hag. This summer, he continued to spend more than 180 million to bring in quality players as he requested. However, they can be easily beaten, and I see MU regressing under Erik ten Hag this season. This is the season MU has had the worst start in history.
But the thing is, I'm going to blame Ten Hag: Marcus Rashford, MU's primary detonator. Ten Hag has overshadowed him, and he is no longer himself this season.

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October 02, 2023, 01:40:53 PM
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Only one match in the Premier League today. Chelsea will play away to Fulham. Chelsea finished last season with disappointing results. This season they continue in the same way. It's been a nightmare year for Chelsea fans. They have only one win in the Premier League this season. They beat Luton Town. On the other hand, Fulham are mid-table in the league. I thought they would struggle this season after Mitrovic went to the Arab League. But they're not bad. It's hard to predict which team will win this match. It will be a battle between two teams with equal strengths. I might bet on both teams to score.

Fulham and Chelsea now have a three point gap in the standings so yes, at least even though Fulham is playing at home it still doesn't guarantee Fulham will beat Chelsea. But even so, even though in this match too at least Chelsea is still a favorite. But yes, because Chelsea so far this season has not had a stable performance, then it seems that Chelsea also cannot guarantee to be able to win in this match. Therefore, then at least any result can happen in this match but in my prediction, it seems that there will not be many goals that occur in this match.

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October 02, 2023, 01:42:36 PM
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Only one match in the Premier League today. Chelsea will play away to Fulham. Chelsea finished last season with disappointing results. This season they continue in the same way. It's been a nightmare year for Chelsea fans. They have only one win in the Premier League this season. They beat Luton Town. On the other hand, Fulham are mid-table in the league. I thought they would struggle this season after Mitrovic went to the Arab League. But they're not bad. It's hard to predict which team will win this match. It will be a battle between two teams with equal strengths. I might bet on both teams to score.
Chelsea is in a bad scoring form, I wouldn't advice on betting on BTS. If you want to be on the safer side, maybe under 3.5 goals? Fulham managed to get a draw against in form Spurs lineup albeit was on EFL cup. I'm fairly surprised that the bookmakers still give just 2x on Chelsea to win. It doesn't look that clear cut to me. Should be an interesting game and might define both team's actual strength with the upcoming fixture, as both teams have had fairly similar competitive fixtures so far and both teams trying to reach top half of the prem table.

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October 02, 2023, 01:45:25 PM
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I don't understand why bookmakers give such high odds for Fulham (4.0) vs Chelsea (2.0)... Chelsea have only managed to score one goal in September... I won't say how Chelsea are playing away this season... Of course there could be a draw today, but I think Fulham have a better chance of winning...
From my point of view, Chelsea will not win this match knowing fully well that Fulham is a strong team this season. This season Chelsea has nothing to offer so I no longer put my hope on Chelsea rather I support there opponent, am definetly watching this match I want to see what Chelsea can do.
You have just analyzed football like a sentimental person. Granted, Chelsea have not been impressive but that doesn't rule out the fact that they were able to beat Brighton and that proves that football is full of surprises. Now , if we judged by their performance, they actually stood no chance with Brighton but then what happened?
 Monday night games usually go in favor of the Blues and stats show that they have won 11 of their 17 games and drawn four. You could argue further that Fulham can bag the three points because they have just won two games and are desperate to get another 3 points to push them up from their 12th place but then so is Chelsea. And you'd agree with me that the Blues won't pay a visit to the Craven Cottage with the intent of losing.

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October 02, 2023, 01:46:11 PM
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MU's current performance is not improving, rumors of Ten Hag's dismissal is now become a headline. There are several names currently linked with MU, including Conte, Zidane and Solskjaer. Solskjaer gave MU the best performance as EPL runner-up. If Solskjaer is right become MU coach once again, it means that MU does not have serious plans to restore their glory as EPL rulers in the Sir Fergie era.

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October 02, 2023, 01:51:28 PM
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I don't understand why bookmakers give such high odds for Fulham (4.0) vs Chelsea (2.0)... Chelsea have only managed to score one goal in September... I won't say how Chelsea are playing away this season... Of course there could be a draw today, but I think Fulham have a better chance of winning...

Should i say the bookmakers are always right or they do some predictions base on preference? The odds are not unusual to me and base on the current performance of Chelsea, they will give them that odd. But another convincing thought is the fact of how they played and win against Brighton in the EFL cup, if that is well considered, then the odds for Chelsea might be higher than this. It’s all good though, let’s see how this match is going to turn out in the end later tonight.

We always underestimate Harry Maguire whether we realize it or not, but now everyone is aware that Harry Maguire is not always wrong because he is part of the Manchester United players. I applaud his mentality of never giving up even though he is often criticized. And it proves that Harry Maguire still gets the chance to play. Now Manchester United's playing mistakes mostly come from strikers. Rashford is one of the players that I think is most often talked about in the media. Not only that, Bruno is also widely associated with his selfish game.

Interesting to see now, the table is now turning around. When a player receives criticism, it is for them to be better and not bully them with that. With all the criticism Harry Maguire has received, Manchester United still kept him and still gets to play. Before the criticism started, he was the best defender in Manchester United and was praised well for his performance but after some times, players do lose form and that was the case of Harry Maguire and that can happen to any player. Rashford and Bruno are now talked about often than before because of their poor performance but they still have the chance to improve now before they’ll be considered a second choice in the team.

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October 02, 2023, 01:52:30 PM
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Why are Fulham's chances higher than Chelsea? In my opinion, this is just a prediction from the bookies where they see the results of several matches and rankings between Fulham and Chelsea this season, and maybe this is just a trap from the bookies to influence everyone's minds to bet on Fulham. I don't think it's possible that Chelsea can win the match against Fulham, but I also don't know who will win this match, because this season both teams have looked very bad in some of the matches they have played. So it is very difficult to predict who will win this match.
Even though both teams are not good enough this season, at least Fulham is a little better than Chelsea so the bookie is starting to direct predictions for the Fulham team, besides that the match also takes place at Fulham's home ground so there is little motivation for Fulham to take full points at home. Moreover, Fulham are also very aware that the team they will face today is a team that is not that strong even though Chelsea is a team that is quite famous and big in the Premier League.

The Blues are in quite a bad shape right now. Chelsea have only one win in six rounds of the EPL. Therefore, I am confident in the success of the home team.
Fulham on the background of Chelsea looks pretty good - Cottagers go in 11th place. Fulham - a strong team. I would take a risk and bet on a Fulham win.

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October 02, 2023, 02:00:26 PM
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Regarding the decline of Chelsea Club, we cannot wholly blame coach Pochettino. Pochettino's desire to recruit more experienced players needs to be resolved. Instead, Chelsea spends money to welcome many young players.
Pochettino apparently can only be sorry, because when he signed the contract apparently he did not think in what condition the club will be caught. It can be seen that he tries to make the players believe in themselves, lets them on the pitch, trusts those who show a desire to play for the club, but the goals are not coming. Bowley, instead of trying to stabilize the squad, is really buying more and more new players and letting old players go who could still play, like Coulibaly or Pulisic.

I think Pochettino still has 3-4 games to try to correct the situation, because it will be more and more difficult to explain to the management and fans why there are no victories with such a squad.

Chelsea is still playing poorly despite spending over 400 million pounds in the last summer transfer window. Chelsea brings in contracts mainly for young players. They have integration problems or are injured and cannot help the team. In the upcoming transfer window, Coach Pochettino will have greater responsibility in finding ways to bring in more experienced players.
In fact, Chelsea's management spent heavily in the summer and started the season poorly. Currently, coach Pochettino has a further view. He is working to improve the team – if they can keep their spirits up.

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October 02, 2023, 02:08:13 PM
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Man United spent a lot of money this season but if we look at where they stand now, it seems that the squad that Ten Hag is building is still inadequate. Ten Hag should know very well that Man United's defense is a weakness that must be addressed immediately. Instead of signing a quality defender, Ten Hag prefers to bring in a goalkeeper, striker, and 2 new midfielders. Indeed, there are Jonny Evans and Sergio Reguilon, but that is not a solution to Man United's backline problems because what Man United needs is a strong, world-class defender.

Ten Hag might not be the right one for the job. What saved him was the result of last season, which was possible because Tottenham, Chelsea and Liverpool played a weak season. What if they played a better season? I am sure that Manchester United would not have qualified for the Champions League. Money is kind of irrelevant as some teams now prove with their performances. First and foremost Chelsea of course, but money is most effective when it is in the hands of a manager who understands all the details of his team. I don't think that an extra 200m would get ten Hag very far.
Mnchester United are restricted in spending money to sign many players this season, so it requires Erik Ten Hah to be able to think about making the best use of the money allocated. Erik Ten Hag failed to build a good squad this season, so that affected their match results. He's been here for a season, but he hasn't shown anything that people have been waiting for. They have been promising in some games, but the problem is that they have become something that cannot be expected in the games that they play after they have plyed well.



Fullham should be more enthusiastic in this match. He will compete in front of his own supporters at Craven Cottage Stadium. But I prefer to skip betting on this one. Because Chelsea could indeed show positive improvements in this match. Or it could be the other way around, namely that Chelsea is getting worse. The uncertainty resulting from this inconsistency makes everything even more difficult to predict.
That's why the odds is high, Fulham to win is @3.80, draw @3.50 and Chelsea to win is @2.05, which option you bet will give a good amount of return. I'd say Fulham looks more convinced to win in this match, there are so many Chelsea's players currently injured.

Again and again Chelsea let Mudryk become a starter when he has not contribute anything for 19 matches. Cheesy
Is it possible that Chelsea will get another defeat in this match? very possible in my opinion. Lol
not to underestimate them at all, but honestly when I see them about to play, a big doubt always arises. Yes, it is because they themselves have a performance that has not improved even with changing coaches. Since last season, there have been 4 coaches who have handled them, but none of the 4 coaches can lift their performance. And now their new coach has not been able to show something that is a breath of fresh air for them. At the beginning they were quite good, but after that they declined again.

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October 02, 2023, 02:19:43 PM
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Mnchester United are restricted in spending money to sign many players this season, so it requires Erik Ten Hah to be able to think about making the best use of the money allocated. Erik Ten Hag failed to build a good squad this season, so that affected their match results. He's been here for a season, but he hasn't shown anything that people have been waiting for. They have been promising in some games, but the problem is that they have become something that cannot be expected in the games that they play after they have plyed well.
The allocation they have is not too much for a big club but still if you look at the money they spend on some players like Hojlund, Onana and Mount it is more than 150 million which is also quite large but there are indeed some things that make fans a little not too fond of this restriction so that they always feel dissatisfied with Glazer as a bigwig at Manchester United.

But besides that with the money they are currently pouring out especially for last summer's transfers it is actually very large in my opinion but of course whether Ten Hag chose correctly or not until now we still haven't seen anything positive from the purchases made.

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