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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.4%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.9%)
Arsenal - 38 (20.8%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.6%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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November 22, 2023, 06:18:54 PM
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There is no way Newcastle can be the most experienced player in champions League when we have so many other reputation clubs who are known to be the king or rather champions on every season champions league, infact they are the smallest experience team in champions league.

When we talk about champions league the teams that are well known to be more experience is Real Madrid because I don't no if they are destined for it because they hardly miss the trophy if they find themselves on the champions League final, so however if Real Madrid manages to scare through final I'm sure they will win the trophy.
Of course, that's why I disputed his assumption.
Real Madrid is the kings in the Champions League, of course because of the record titles they have won. Real Madrid have almost never failed in the Champions League final, which means they are the holders of the best record so far.

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Didn't Newcastle not enter the Champions League for a long time, some say 20 years without being in the champions league? Correct me if I'm wrong.
So indeed Newcastle do not have much experience in the Champions League and only this season they seem better even though they have to be in a tough group and even that is not able to compete even though the opportunity to qualify is still there.

That's why we are still difficult to guess, on the one hand Newcastle are experiencing problems with players who are injured a lot this is certainly a tough test as long as they play Champion League matches, I say the same anyone in qualifying but it is difficult to determine.
I don't know how long they have been out of the Champions League since they last qualified, but so far Newcastle have recorded 22 games in the Champions League with 8 wins, 3 draws and 11 losses. They weren't a competitive team for much of last season, so it's natural that Newcastle has very little experience in the Champions League compared to the other 3 teams.

This season, Newcastle still has at least 2 next matches which will make it a total of 24 matches in the Champions League. If Newcastle manages to qualify for the last 16, then of course the number of matches they will play will increase and so will their experience. Milan, Dortmund and PSG are much more experienced in the Champions League, but that doesn't mean Newcastle doesn't have a chance.

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November 22, 2023, 06:33:18 PM
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Newcastle looks most inexperienced with champions league amongst others in the group F. They are at the bottom of the group and looking like they are not qualifying for the next round of the champions league this season because they have the least point in their group.

They have won only one out of all four champions league games they have played so far,they lost two and drew one which has turned out very poor amongst the results other teams in the same group has got in the champions league so far this season, they seem unlucky to be amongst experienced teams who still don't mind taking advantage of their weakness to their benefits because they want to qualify to the next stage, Dortmund and PSG still remains the only teams that looks to me like they would qualify
Newcastle is not the most experienced team in the Champions League, but they are the least experienced team compared to the other 3 teams in the same group. Newcastle have failed in 3 out of 4 matches so far and they were only able to beat PSG by surprise. Their performance was poor even though I enjoyed the good game, but the result is what matters most, not the gameplay.

I don't think Newcastle can easily qualify for the round of 16 this season, but they have the potential to win that ticket if they are able to win the next 2 matches. Nothing is impossible and no one knows for sure how far Newcastle will progress this season in the Champions League. The opportunity is still there and every team in Group F has that opportunity and can still take advantage of it. They represent the Premier League, but it is difficult to move forward when big teams are the opponents.
Didn't Newcastle not enter the Champions League for a long time, some say 20 years without being in the champions league? Correct me if I'm wrong.
So indeed Newcastle do not have much experience in the Champions League and only this season they seem better even though they have to be in a tough group and even that is not able to compete even though the opportunity to qualify is still there.

That's why we are still difficult to guess, on the one hand Newcastle are experiencing problems with players who are injured a lot this is certainly a tough test as long as they play Champion League matches, I say the same anyone in qualifying but it is difficult to determine.
That's right, Newcastle last appeared in the Champions League competition in the 2003-2004 season, which is exactly two decades ago. Collecting 71 points and occupying fourth place in the English Premier League standings means Newcastle has qualified for the UCL this season, but Eddie Howe squad is less fortunate by joining group F. They still have the chance to qualify for the last 16, but it is very slim due to a series of injuries and player problems like Tonali case. it made them very unstable, even though in reality they had surprised us all by beating PSG.

It is very likely that Newcastle will target the Europa League, that is more realistic if you look at their position and number of points in group F standings. I doubt Newcastle can finish in the top four of the EPL standings again this season, the only best scenario for returning to the UCL next season is to finish in third place in the standings, fighting in the playoffs to get to the Europa League and winning the trophy, apart from that I think their path is very steep.

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November 22, 2023, 06:37:25 PM
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Newcastle fumble in the beginning of the season, when every other prominent teams were making 3 points in their matches to compete with others, Newcastle were doing what I least expected from them due to their last season performance but they have started to pick up judging from their last 4 matches, they might pull some stunt in this coming match.
At the beginning of the season, the start off for Newcastle wasn't good enough for what was expected of them as a team that did finished well last season, they had an average performance maybe due their form then as it looked like they weren't in their best form.

But it's good they are now better of than they were earlier at the beginning of the season, they have shown some very good improvement convincing that they would do better, it's really a good one they got back on their feet before the season is far spent, so they still have some good time to make up for the moments they some slacks. But then I don't see them anywhere close to the trophy but I believe they are most likely to qualify for the UCL next season by finishing amongst top four is only they will be consistent with their improvement.

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November 22, 2023, 06:40:23 PM
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Well talking about injury, Manchester United have got a double boost in their upcoming fixture against Everton cause it is confirmed that their first choice keeper André Onana is fit and ready to face Everton also their most preferred Leftback choice, who's been out of the club for weeks due to a very serious injury is back and currently training with his teammates at Carrigthon, news have it that he could be fit to play against Everton
Still, there's a high risk in betting on Man United... I prefer waiting until their performance hits its peak in the 2024 transfer season. Sir James Ratcliffe seems poised to make a significant impact on Man United's football in the upcoming transfer window. There's a lot of workhome to be done, and the most glaring issue is the imperfect main team squad.

Ten Hag should be able to show positive progress in the upcoming games, and when facing Everton, the chances of either team winning seem 50:50 to me. Both teams appear equal based on the history of their early season matches untill this week.

I'm still optimistic about betting on Everton. At this moment, I haven't seen a significant improvement in Man United's strategy, while Chelsea has already demonstrated progress in evaluating their performance from last season to this one.
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November 22, 2023, 06:41:52 PM
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I can understand that, I can understand why they're struggling so much in the Champions League. They are in the toughest group in the Champions League, with teams that are very experienced, while they are arguably a newcomer team, of course it affects their mentality and morale. But on the other hand I also still appreciate them, because they can still compete with 1 win and 1 draw, which ultimately makes them still have a chance to be able to qualify for the next round in the Champions League this season. Yes, although they have to work very hard to be able to realize their chances.
Newcastle looks most inexperienced with champions league amongst others in the group F. They are at the bottom of the group and looking like they are not qualifying for the next round of the champions league this season because they have the least point in their group.

They have won only one out of all four champions league games they have played so far,they lost two and drew one which has turned out very poor amongst the results other teams in the same group has got in the champions league so far this season, they seem unlucky to be amongst experienced teams who still don't mind taking advantage of their weakness to their benefits because they want to qualify to the next stage, Dortmund and PSG still remains the only teams that looks to me like they would qualify
I agree with you on this because Newcastle United played very good football against Borussia Dortmund but the inexperience of Uefa Champions League Newcastle players had caused them to lose against Borussia Dortmund. Group F of the Uefa Champions League which is the Newcastle group is still open for any club to qualify because the points difference between the clubs is not much. I believe Newcastle United will beat PSG again when they play at home in England.

Newcastle did decent in the last match but could have done lot better but that's how CL games goes, always set for a surprise. Anyway right now Newcastle are in a very tough spot as they are on the bottom of the table and have to win their next CL match against PSG otherwise their chances of qualifying will depend very much on others or maybe could be none also. PSG are tough opponents but they have defeated PSG in the beginning also so Newcastle has to pull of  a win again in their next CL fixture to keep their chances alive to a good degree.
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November 22, 2023, 06:46:26 PM
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Maybe Chelsea is only slightly ahead with their current performance but that doesn't mean they can win easily against Newcastle.

We know Newcastle is also a difficult club, so no one is expecting the match to be a easy win for Chelsea. We all know Chelsea have been playing well lately, but I am sure they are still going to give Chelsea a tough time. But if we can compare the way the two clubs have been playing lately, Chelsea should be able to win the match. Newcastle lost their last two matches, the last one being against Bournemouth and their match against Dortmund in the Champions League. But most people didn’t expect Chelsea to win and draw their last two matches. Chelsea played a draw against Manchester City, which was very surprising to everyone, and they won against Tottenham. With Chelsea's performance, they should be able to win the match.

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November 22, 2023, 06:52:06 PM
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That's right, Newcastle last appeared in the Champions League competition in the 2003-2004 season, which is exactly two decades ago. Collecting 71 points and occupying fourth place in the English Premier League standings means Newcastle has qualified for the UCL this season, but Eddie Howe squad is less fortunate by joining group F. They still have the chance to qualify for the last 16, but it is very slim due to a series of injuries and player problems like Tonali case. it made them very unstable, even though in reality they had surprised us all by beating PSG.

It is very likely that Newcastle will target the Europa League, that is more realistic if you look at their position and number of points in group F standings. I doubt Newcastle can finish in the top four of the EPL standings again this season, the only best scenario for returning to the UCL next season is to finish in third place in the standings, fighting in the playoffs to get to the Europa League and winning the trophy, apart from that I think their path is very steep.
Thanks for correcting that, I too easily forget when Newcastle were last in the Champions League as it's not a team that has gotten much attention from me in the last decade. Newcastle's realistic target is to qualify for the Europa League, but they can still try their best to qualify for the last 16. Players' self-confidence must be increased, as well as their performance.

Right now Newcastle must be able to compete enough to regularly qualify for the Champions League every season, especially after they were acquired by the conglomerate. They have to build a better squad from season to season and prove that they are capable of doing it step by step. This week they have a difficult match where they have to get Chelsea as their opponent.

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November 22, 2023, 06:53:47 PM
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Well talking about injury, Manchester United have got a double boost in their upcoming fixture against Everton cause it is confirmed that their first choice keeper André Onana is fit and ready to face Everton also their most preferred Leftback choice, who's been out of the club for weeks due to a very serious injury is back and currently training with his teammates at Carrigthon, news have it that he could be fit to play against Everton
Still, there's a high risk in betting on Man United... I prefer waiting until their performance hits its peak in the 2024 transfer season. Sir James Ratcliffe seems poised to make a significant impact on Man United's football in the upcoming transfer window. There's a lot of workhome to be done, and the most glaring issue is the imperfect main team squad.

Ten Hag should be able to show positive progress in the upcoming games, and when facing Everton, the chances of either team winning seem 50:50 to me. Both teams appear equal based on the history of their early season matches untill this week.

I'm still optimistic about betting on Everton. At this moment, I haven't seen a significant improvement in Man United's strategy, while Chelsea has already demonstrated progress in evaluating their performance from last season to this one.

Most definitely, Manchester will also see some players leaving, they'll be active in the next two transfer window, securing and assembling players that would help the club win the Premier League tittle and also compete towards winning the Champions League ( allow me dream ) Grin The club has a shit loads of trash going down behind the scenes and those flying roaches after profits have decided not to sell the club. The only thing that can finally chase them glazers out completely would be sanctions.

Don't even bother to place your stake on the Toffees, they'll definitely get you disappointed. You see the points deducted from them in the Premier League? Would those players be in the right mind to play again after all of them hard earned points have been deducted? Shit sucks, the management will definitely give Sean Dyche to raise Everton out from hell. With Burnley, he's the only coach have seen dragging a team out of relegation for more than once.

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November 22, 2023, 06:53:56 PM
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Well talking about injury, Manchester United have got a double boost in their upcoming fixture against Everton cause it is confirmed that their first choice keeper André Onana is fit and ready to face Everton also their most preferred Leftback choice, who's been out of the club for weeks due to a very serious injury is back and currently training with his teammates at Carrigthon, news have it that he could be fit to play against Everton
Everything changes in Old Trafford over the past decades. The performance of the club have improved and have also decline in the present days. Erik Ten Hag is a prominent coach, he just needs time to set things right for the club. He will not have to worry again about their first choice goalkeeper who picked up an injury during international games. André Onana have return to training and he will be available for Everton game this weekend. I think it's good news for Manchester United, they will bounce back to winning ways in due time. The game might turn out to be easy for the Red Devils.

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Deep down inside I feel that David Moyes would have probably been a great coach for Manchester united, he succeeded Sir Alex Ferguson but his start was not as they thought it would have been but personally I think they should have given more time to him so he could blend in.
Sir Alex Ferguson did not have immediate success at Manchester united he took time before he transformed the team I believe Manchester would have not been where they are if they had given some time to David Moyes.

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November 22, 2023, 07:09:31 PM
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The international break is finally over and the players have returned back to their various club side teams and began training,  some clubs could drop form due to injuries gotten by their key players in the break, while the opposition teams they'll be playing against would see that as an advantage in the upcoming fixtures.
Yeah, the international break is over and it is now time for all the clubs to assess their players and find out who is fit, injured, tired or jetlagged. Some clubs have a worse injury situation than others, and there would be more injuries in the future until the footballing bodies come together and do something about this overload of games. When players play this staggering number of games, it is only logical that too many of them will get injured. It is what it is anyway, and i am pretty excited that the EPL is back, the international break is just too boring for me.

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November 22, 2023, 07:16:40 PM
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It's all about the race for trophies. What I mean is that the club is not used to such a number of games. But all this can be fixed. Everything needs time and perseverance, which Newcastle has in abundance. We will wait for progress from the team.
I think it's not because the last season there were FA Cup and Carabao Cup, so they've been used to play with this kind of busy schedule. The difference is the competition and experience, Newcastle has no experience in UCL, so it's not surprising to see them completely flop.

But if you ask me can Newcastle qualified to enter UCL in the next season? I believe no, many teams are improved right now.
I would say that it is going to be hard for any team that doesn't have a huge depth, which Newcastle doesn't really have. When you are playing at FA and League and Caraboa and UCL all at the same season, that means that you are going to end up with a huge depth in order to make sure nobody is tired, if you play the same people every game, then you are going to get your players hurt and that should be as avoidable as you could possibly do.

I understand that it is not that easy, and should be something to be careful about, but Newcastle could get better next season, I doubt they will go to UCL, and if they lose at cups early on, they can focus on the league and finish top four once again, that would be to their benefit then they will need to get some bench players.

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November 22, 2023, 07:18:35 PM
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Deep down inside I feel that David Moyes would have probably been a great coach for Manchester united, he succeeded Sir Alex Ferguson but his start was not as they thought it would have been but personally I think they should have given more time to him so he could blend in.
Sir Alex Ferguson did not have immediate success at Manchester united he took time before he transformed the team I believe Manchester would have not been where they are if they had given some time to David Moyes.
If we look at the good performance of West Ham which is currently being managed by David Moyes, of course that can be quite a worthy comparison and indeed every coach should be able to provide time for a new coach in the transition process. However, Manchester United is at a different level and every coach who comes must provide maximum results like what Sir Alex Ferguson did and I don't think that can be compared considering that Sir Alex Ferguson is also a veteran at the club.

Management shouldn't have to change coaches so often and maybe if they didn't chase results and prioritized the process, maybe since the last few seasons we could have seen Manchester United remain a fierce team in all competitions. Now to change that is too late as this club is a hotbed of problems for players and coaches alike, I'm not sure they will have a better season than last.

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November 22, 2023, 07:19:39 PM
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Deep down inside I feel that David Moyes would have probably been a great coach for Manchester united, he succeeded Sir Alex Ferguson but his start was not as they thought it would have been but personally I think they should have given more time to him so he could blend in.
Sir Alex Ferguson did not have immediate success at Manchester united he took time before he transformed the team I believe Manchester would have not been where they are if they had given some time to David Moyes.
Everything will not be easy because as far as I know there is a lot of pressure at Manchester United. Every coach will feel the same way because of the high demands and pressure from internal and external teams. David Moyes has the same story as several coaches after him, meaning that all the coaches who have coached Manchester United after Sir Alex Ferguson have failed.

Ten Hag might be better if management can put a lot of trust in him to stay. The problem is, they have to invest in a lot of expenses where the squad needed to restore the team's glory is very expensive. Ten Hag has the ability to build a middle class team like Ajax, so he still has the possibility to do it with a big team like Manchester United.

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November 22, 2023, 07:20:29 PM
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Deep down inside I feel that David Moyes would have probably been a great coach for Manchester united, he succeeded Sir Alex Ferguson but his start was not as they thought it would have been but personally I think they should have given more time to him so he could blend in.
Sir Alex Ferguson did not have immediate success at Manchester united he took time before he transformed the team I believe Manchester would have not been where they are if they had given some time to David Moyes.
You have a very good point on this and I think I agree with to a very large extent on this, it's very possible if he had all the time maybe he could get Manchester united to glory such that they become a very formidable force in the premier league over a good period of time.

But then time factor has always been the constrain almost every team do have with their coach especially when the season is gradually going far and it's beginning to look like they may end the season without getting much out of the season, especially with teams that have got big names such as Manchester united they will run out of patience and replace their coach, if we would wan to excuse these coaches with time I think on the long run it could turn out in the favor of the team but some times it could be detrimental aswell, just like what they are experiencing with their current coach.

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November 22, 2023, 07:29:23 PM
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Maybe Chelsea is only slightly ahead with their current performance but that doesn't mean they can win easily against Newcastle.

We know Newcastle is also a difficult club, so no one is expecting the match to be a easy win for Chelsea. We all know Chelsea have been playing well lately, but I am sure they are still going to give Chelsea a tough time. But if we can compare the way the two clubs have been playing lately, Chelsea should be able to win the match. Newcastle lost their last two matches, the last one being against Bournemouth and their match against Dortmund in the Champions League. But most people didn’t expect Chelsea to win and draw their last two matches. Chelsea played a draw against Manchester City, which was very surprising to everyone, and they won against Tottenham. With Chelsea's performance, they should be able to win the match.

Chelsea last two matches very impressive, and perhaps this will make the Blues squad more confident against Newcastle. Apart from that, Chelsea also seems to have found their rhythm, because in 8 matches in all competitions the Chelsea team only one lost. This also proves that their performance already improve, so I'll probably favorite Chelsea in that match, and will bet on them.
Meanwhile, on the other side Eddie Howe may will be not too much pressure squad Newcastle to got winning against Chelsea, and in my opinion maybe they will be play safe because there is an important schedule in the UCL which requires Newcastle players to be fit.

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November 22, 2023, 07:29:36 PM
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Didn't Newcastle not enter the Champions League for a long time, some say 20 years without being in the champions league? Correct me if I'm wrong.
So indeed Newcastle do not have much experience in the Champions League and only this season they seem better even though they have to be in a tough group and even that is not able to compete even though the opportunity to qualify is still there.

That's why we are still difficult to guess, on the one hand Newcastle are experiencing problems with players who are injured a lot this is certainly a tough test as long as they play Champion League matches, I say the same anyone in qualifying but it is difficult to determine.
Yes that's right. Indeed, Newcastle was a strong team at that time, but they had been down for a long time and even almost got relegated, but after the club owner changed, Newcastle seemed to find their identity and slowly started to rise until they finally managed to qualify for the UCL last season. But unfortunately they are immediately in the hellish group so in my opinion it is very natural that they do not qualify for the group phase this season because when talking about the UCL league, experience is also very important to be able to qualify and of the four teams, only Newcastle is only in the UCL this season after dozens of They haven't played at UCL this year.

Moreover, Newcastle is facing a very busy schedule in the next three weeks, they have to meet Chelsea in the EPL, against PSG in the UCL and against Man United in the EPL. Looking at Newcastle's schedule it is almost impossible for them to focus especially as many players are injured as you said.

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November 22, 2023, 07:49:41 PM
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The international break is finally over and the players have returned back to their various club side teams and began training,  some clubs could drop form due to injuries gotten by their key players in the break, while the opposition teams they'll be playing against would see that as an advantage in the upcoming fixtures.
Yeah, the international break is over and it is now time for all the clubs to assess their players and find out who is fit, injured, tired or jetlagged. Some clubs have a worse injury situation than others, and there would be more injuries in the future until the footballing bodies come together and do something about this overload of games. When players play this staggering number of games, it is only logical that too many of them will get injured. It is what it is anyway, and i am pretty excited that the EPL is back, the international break is just too boring for me.
After seeing this situation, I think the matches this week will be very risky for those who want to bet. On the one hand, the international break provides a little space for managers at club level to evaluate their respective performances, but in reality some players do not return in one hundred percent fit condition. The opening match of week 13 between Manchester City versus Liverpool, although it is certain to be fierce, but Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp have several names in the treatment room.

The thing that is most feared now is no longer just a decrease in performance, because it still ways to improve it. What is most frightening now is a points deduction like what happened to Everton which could make the club drop into the red zone. Various wild rumors link Manchester City to committing FFP violations, but we have not yet seen the sanctions and decisions given to them by the EPL organizers.

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November 22, 2023, 08:06:30 PM
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Maybe Chelsea is only slightly ahead with their current performance but that doesn't mean they can win easily against Newcastle.

We know Newcastle is also a difficult club, so no one is expecting the match to be a easy win for Chelsea. We all know Chelsea have been playing well lately, but I am sure they are still going to give Chelsea a tough time. But if we can compare the way the two clubs have been playing lately, Chelsea should be able to win the match. Newcastle lost their last two matches, the last one being against Bournemouth and their match against Dortmund in the Champions League. But most people didn’t expect Chelsea to win and draw their last two matches. Chelsea played a draw against Manchester City, which was very surprising to everyone, and they won against Tottenham. With Chelsea's performance, they should be able to win the match.

Chelsea last two matches very impressive, and perhaps this will make the Blues squad more confident against Newcastle. Apart from that, Chelsea also seems to have found their rhythm, because in 8 matches in all competitions the Chelsea team only one lost. This also proves that their performance already improve, so I'll probably favorite Chelsea in that match, and will bet on them.
Meanwhile, on the other side Eddie Howe may will be not too much pressure squad Newcastle to got winning against Chelsea, and in my opinion maybe they will be play safe because there is an important schedule in the UCL which requires Newcastle players to be fit.

Chelsea are performing well and can defeat Newcastle, but he won't be and easy task, Newcastle have a tough game to play in the Champions League against PSG and they will like to defeat PSG in the match so that they can qualify for the next round of the Champions League. They will not compel their important players to play against Chelsea since they require that game and Chelsea are not competing in any competition other than the Premier League. They will try their hardest to overcome Newcastle with their main players, especially Jackson, who is a very gifted and skilled player who can position himself extremely well on the pitch. Chelsea is confident that they will defeat Newcastle because when Chelsea are playing with a big club they don't play. If you want to bet against Chelsea I think the best thing to do is to play away either half because I think Chelsea will win the game but to secure your risk, play away either half.

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November 22, 2023, 08:14:49 PM
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Manchester United's situation regarding coach and player relations is heating up again. Currently it is rumoured that after Jadon Sancho was involved in a problem with Ten Hag that has not ended until now there is now the name Varane who is rumoured to be dissatisfied with the way Ten Hag's leadership at Manchester United has made the relationship between the two tenuous now.
This situation gave rise to a rumour that Varane will leave to avoid further conflict with Ten Hag and indeed this is the fastest way for him to get out of the trap of his problems (just like Ronaldo) where it is now rumoured that Varane will leave in January. This will be exploited by several clubs because there are already offers from SPL clubs to bring Varane to the oil fields and there are also offers from Bayern that have been prepared for Varane if he decides to leave.
But clearly this will be a disaster again for Manchester United especially for their defence because if in the end Varane leaves then indeed the defence has many gaps where the current situation is some of their players are also injured.

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