Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024

[kawetsriyanto]

We cannot really tell what the outcome of the match between Chelsea and Newcastle will turn out to be because in as much as Chelsea seem to have been in a good form do to there wining against Tottenham Hotspur and drawing there match against Manchester City doesn't prove that they can easily win Newcastle United because Newcastle also have so many good records this season even if they were unable to have gone far on this season premier league but to me they have the same form and performance as Chelsea so there upcoming match is actually going to be a 50 to 50 in performance so at the end we will know who is the strongest.

Basically, the chance to win for both teams will be always 50:50. I agree that both Chelsea and Newcastle players have almost the same quality. Also, the stats of their last 5 matches seem not very much different. But what makes them are different, it is related to the condition of their attackers. If you look at closely, almost all Newcastle attackers get injured. They even have no available striker for the match against Chelsea. I think it will be a big problem, they can't optimize their attacking line. That probably makes Newcastle to play more defensively. This is surely an opened chance for Chelsea to win the match. So, I personally predict that Chelsea will win the match.

[Raflesia]

I think the game is open to be won by either of Chelsea and Newcastle United. While Chelsea are knownn to be an inconsistent team and poor in front of goal; this season Newcastle United has also been inconsistent and injury ravaged which is enough reason to help gamblers understand its either any team wins or a draw ensues

Personally, i think Chelsea will win the tie, they are in good spirits and better form as well.

It would be quite good if Chelsea could win that match against Newcastle United, because Chelsea is indeed making a comeback and is aiming for victory to take them to a better position in the League standings. However, I also think that Newcastle United will not let Chelsea win easily at home, because Newcastle United is also aiming for victory in order not to continue to slump in the current league standings.

We will see that tomorrow whether they can get 3 points or not at St. James Park which in these 2 seasons is sometimes haunted for some clubs including that is a big club.
From the last 5 matches for Chelsea and Newcastle they got the same results where 1 loss 2 draws and 2 wins. In terms of players, they are also quite balanced even though Chelsea's name is still bigger but in terms of players and current performance they are balanced in any case so that tomorrow depends on the scheme carried out whether Howe or Poche will stand as the winner at the end of the match.

Chelsea's advantage at the moment even though they are playing away is the absence of several attacking players from Newcastle which makes Newcastle could be trapped in poor finishing but this is also an opportunity for Newcastle to maintain their position so they must get 3 points in this match.

[Weawant]

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I think the game is open to be won by either of Chelsea and Newcastle United. While Chelsea are knownn to be an inconsistent team and poor in front of goal; this season Newcastle United has also been inconsistent and injury ravaged which is enough reason to help gamblers understand its either any team wins or a draw ensues

Personally, i think Chelsea will win the tie, they are in good spirits and better form as well.

The case of injuries has been a major set back for many team this season in the premier league, and this has included both the big and small team who has been affected so far, and rhei has cost some of the teams a lot while for the others, a few points making them drop down on the standings, but then they are most hopeful to get back.


Chelsea was not spared with the Case of injuries same has Also affected Newcastle, this has been one of the major reason Chelsea has earlier had poor performance at the start of the season, but now they have shown some improvement, both teams truly have some level of inconsistency recently and it will definitely make the match one that will be really difficult to predict, but then we will have to keep an open mind to the possible result.

[gabbie2010]

This is a game our eyes are on,many people are predicting Chelsea to win because they were able to get a draw against Manchester City,and Arsenal.It is true  Chelsea are beginning to gather some mumentum,but they still have problem with consistency,they are not consistent,they can play well today,and you will assume they have started doing well,and all of a sudden,they can just turn out to dissappoint you in the next game.Newsactle will either win them,or they will get a draw,I don't see Chelsea winning this one at all.We all know that of recent, Newcastle dropped form,and they might want to return back to winning ways with this Chelsea game.So I give them a win or draw in this match.

If we look at the statistics of the two teams in the last 5 matches they have the same records 2 wins 2 draws 1 loss. On the other hand Chelsea is on fire in the last 2 matches which increases the confidence of Chelsea players while Newcastle plays at home of course this is another advantage so overall this match is unpredictable because both teams have an advantage, as I said before only luck can help one of them to win for example a red card, penalty or other things or another scenario they just play a draw.

Chelsea would be motivated by the positive outcome of their two previous matches firstly they defeated unbeaten Tottenham Hotspur and later drew with Man City in a game dubbed to be their best this season, it's obvious Newcastle united had been inconsistent with their performance lost against lowly rated Bournemouth last week thus I don't think they would pose any threat against Chelsea tomorrow, I think Chelsea had started to regain their confidence in the league despite all the prediction and speculation about them losing to Man City yet put up a brilliant performance and playing against Newcastle I think they game is going to end in a draw or Chelsea win narrowly with a lone goal.

[red4slash]

Manchester City vs Liverpool will be the opening match in week 13 of the Premier League. Yes, it is a big match this week and there will be many people who are interested and can't wait to see how the match will go.
The bookie gives Manchester City a bigger chance of winning than Liverpool. However, the odds given by the bookmakers do not guarantee that Manchester City will really win in this tight match.
Liverpool must also be preparing carefully, because if they win then very convincingly they will be able to shift Manchester City from the top of the standings.

Right now in world football there is no team that Manchester city would be playing against without them having the lowest odds, that's how good pep guadiola team is.
Although Manchester city vs Liverpool is always an open game and any one can come out tops, one thing that's sure is that it would be a very exciting match and I think at the moment I don't have a favorite team in this match, both team knows the importance of the game so I go for a draw.

Even if what you say is true but on the other hand we also cannot be sure that at this time Manchester City can beat Liverpool because both teams seem to be aiming for the same result of 3 points.
Apart from determining who deserves to be at the top considering the difference between the two teams at the moment is one point, they are also still in good form even though there are several times Manchester City made mistakes especially in the last few weeks where they had to lose and last week they also got a draw but that does not change the fact that Manchester City is the best club at the moment.

Last week when they played against Chelsea the match was very exciting and the rain of goals occurred. in tomorrow's match with Liverpool I expect the same thing even though it seems to impose a will but it will be very interesting if a match that has high tension is accompanied by many goals scored.

[iBaba]

I think the game is open to be won by either of Chelsea and Newcastle United. While Chelsea are knownn to be an inconsistent team and poor in front of goal; this season Newcastle United has also been inconsistent and injury ravaged which is enough reason to help gamblers understand its either any team wins or a draw ensues

Personally, i think Chelsea will win the tie, they are in good spirits and better form as well.

To speak on a more serious note, Chelsea should ordinarily win this match even with a 1 goal difference over the Newcastle because they have all it takes right now to make that possible but I will still say that it is the decision of the manager at first then that of the players too to win this game.

If Chelsea can play with Newcastle the way they played Manchester City, it will definitely become so much easier for them to score Newcastle. But if they just want to win, they must do the needful including the coach, Pochettino and the top strikers that are on the field. Teamwork is the best form of defeating an opponent in this dicey game of football.

[ginsan]

I think the game is open to be won by either of Chelsea and Newcastle United. While Chelsea are knownn to be an inconsistent team and poor in front of goal; this season Newcastle United has also been inconsistent and injury ravaged which is enough reason to help gamblers understand its either any team wins or a draw ensues

Personally, i think Chelsea will win the tie, they are in good spirits and better form as well.

A trip that might be quite good for Chelsea if they can win the match against Newcastle United because this match is an away match and Chelsea previously managed to hold off Manchester City and also beat Tottenham. So if Chelsea manages to get 3 points at home to Newcastle United then Pochettino will be highly praised by Chelsea fans because he has succeeded in bringing about significant changes in the several matches they have played. I see that Chelsea is quite superior in this match, especially since they have good enough capital to face Newcastle United.

So, if Chelsea manages to get 3 points, I think they will be closer to the top 4, therefore Chelsea cannot afford to lose points in this match. Newcastle United is experiencing a downward trend this season where in their previous match they were defeated by Bournemouth and in the match against Chelsea I think they will find it difficult to recover from their defeat. So for this match I think Chelsea can take advantage of Newcastle United weakness because if Chelsea can score early they will be superior enough to secure 3 points.

[Issa56]

I agree with you. At the moment I don't see any chance of Chelsea winning this game. Although the bookies predict this will be an even match but one important note here is that Chelsea are very inconsistent and they often lose against average teams. Newcastle are in their best form and of course they have good statistics in the league this season.

Why don’t you see Chelsea winning the game? The reason that you give sounds somehow to me, I know Chelsea has been inconsistent this season, but they are playing well lately. Chelsea have been losing against weak teams. I agree with that, but don’t you see how they have been playing well against strong teams? Newcastle is playing well this season, and you also know that. I am expecting the match to be a difficult match for Chelsea, but Chelsea should be able to win the match. All you are talking about is Chelsea playing poorly against weak teams, but you are not talking about how they are performing nicely when playing against strong teams.

In many periods last season Man United had a hope of a great return. But looking at the current conditions, expecting them to have a trophy seems to be difficult. Ten Hag failed in building a team with his philosophy. 

I was also expecting Manchester United to be among the contestants for the Premier League this season, but as we can see, their performance is kind of poor this season. I don’t even expect Manchester United to end the season in the top 5 with their current performance, and I am not seeing any improvement in the club's performance. Ten hag made some failed signings in the last transfer window, and I guess the club is having an internal crisis that is really affecting the club's performance.

[Belarge]

I agree with you. At the moment I don't see any chance of Chelsea winning this game. Although the bookies predict this will be an even match but one important note here is that Chelsea are very inconsistent and they often lose against average teams. Newcastle are in their best form and of course they have good statistics in the league this season.

Chelsea is yet to lose to an elite team this season, and we should remind you that Newcastle has demonstrated to be in the category of elite teams because they won a berth in the UEFA Champions category this season, which is certainly a substantial boost for the club. Eddie Howe will have to contend against Chelsea; it will not be a straight-forward encounter for Newcastle United. They will just try, Newcastle are not in the best possible state this season, especially after suffering serious injuries that have hampered the team's performance in games but we just look on the brighter side.

[Furious 7]

But however if it was Newcastle United against those clubs Newcastle United would have win them, because there performance this season is very impressive by also wining Arsenal on there match at least they have proven to be a strong team.

I agree with you. At the moment I don't see any chance of Chelsea winning this game. Although the bookies predict this will be an even match but one important note here is that Chelsea are very inconsistent and they often lose against average teams. Newcastle are in their best form and of course they have good statistics in the league this season.

Even if that's the case, their chances are still very big actually to get points in this match. Indeed, Chelsea still cannot be consistent when playing against clubs that are below their level but for now Newcastle is still at par in terms of level because after all Newcastle in these 2 seasons has been transformed into a dark horse club that will continue to grow with the resources they have so with this situation both clubs still have a chance in 3 points.
Chelsea will be even more motivated if the club they play against provides greater resistance and we know how they were in the previous 2 matches when facing Tottenham and Manchester City.
So in this case considering Chelsea there is no chance for 3 points in tomorrow's match I think it is something wrong.

[baeva]

I agree with you. At the moment I don't see any chance of Chelsea winning this game. Although the bookies predict this will be an even match but one important note here is that Chelsea are very inconsistent and they often lose against average teams. Newcastle are in their best form and of course they have good statistics in the league this season.

I think the game is open to be won by either of Chelsea and Newcastle United. While Chelsea are knownn to be an inconsistent team and poor in front of goal; this season Newcastle United has also been inconsistent and injury ravaged which is enough reason to help gamblers understand its either any team wins or a draw ensues

Personally, i think Chelsea will win the tie, they are in good spirits and better form as well.

Chelsea can honestly win this match they finally are playing really good and are in good form finally. So i think they can win against Newcastle that is in a really bad form currently. They are looking for a way out of this bad streak and are playing against a team that is playing really good lately.

Why are Newcastle in bad shape? They have one defeat in their last five matches. Just because they're in 7th place doesn't mean they're not playing well, it means top-5 very competitive in the top 5 and you can't argue with that. I don't expect Newcastle to win, but I don't think Chelsea will win either, probably a draw

[KTChampions]

After what happened to other stars at United, Muller should think 100 times before agreeing to such a move 
It would be legendary for Müller to end his career in Bayern at the club where he started and spent his entire career. As a last resort, he could go to Saudi Arabia; going to United means a high probability of ending his career in an unpleasant way in an atmosphere of scandals and a collapsing club.
For United, this is also a strange transfer - another temporary option, another straw that the head coach is trying to grab onto.

I agree with you. If Thomas Müller takes the decision to join Manchester United, I don't think it's the right decision. Thomas Müller is an excellent player. He has been with Bayern Munich for a long time. He has been with this group for more than 15 years. So he could retire from Munich. It would have been more honorable for him. Manchester United Renown is a team. But the current situation of this group is not good. The entire team's performance is erratic. There is no good relationship between the players. With such a team, Thomas Müller's performance will also deteriorate. Thomas Müller could have moved to a club in the Saudi Pro League. Thomas Müller should not join Manchester United at the age of 34.

Yes, by the way, it’s quite a pity that such incredible players as KDB and Thomas Müller have somehow been in the shadow of other players throughout their careers. I find this extremely unfair, especially in relation to Muller, who became a world champion at the national team level, but for some reason it never occurred to anyone to extol him. A move to United would be a disaster, I hope that next season both Muller and KDB will play in Saudi Arabia.

[Hyphen(-)]

Chelsea is yet to lose to an elite team this season, and we should remind you that Newcastle has demonstrated to be in the category of elite teams because they won a berth in the UEFA Champions category this season, which is certainly a substantial boost for the club. Eddie Howe will have to contend against Chelsea; it will not be a straight-forward encounter for Newcastle United. They will just try, Newcastle are not in the best possible state this season, especially after suffering serious injuries that have hampered the team's performance in games but we just look on the brighter side.

Newcastle United, especially in the Champions League, failed to meet up with the hype they had from fans all over the world. They showed us that they lack experience and are coming back to the Premier League where they belong.
Their first two matches was encouraging because they draw and  defeated a good team that we never expect to lose against Newcastle United, but after that, there performance start declining due to injury and un experience in the Champions League football. Nevertheless, they really try to make it to Champions League last season through the Premier League top four.

Chelsea’s performance against big teams so far this season was impressive, they did not lose all points against their fellow big teams which simply means that they can beat Newcastle since the team is among the best teams in the Premier League last season. Therefore, I am expecting a straight win from Chelsea.

[Winterfrost]

I agree with you. At the moment I don't see any chance of Chelsea winning this game. Although the bookies predict this will be an even match but one important note here is that Chelsea are very inconsistent and they often lose against average teams. Newcastle are in their best form and of course they have good statistics in the league this season.

I think the game is open to be won by either of Chelsea and Newcastle United. While Chelsea are knownn to be an inconsistent team and poor in front of goal; this season Newcastle United has also been inconsistent and injury ravaged which is enough reason to help gamblers understand its either any team wins or a draw ensues

Personally, i think Chelsea will win the tie, they are in good spirits and better form as well.

Chelsea can honestly win this match they finally are playing really good and are in good form finally. So i think they can win against Newcastle that is in a really bad form currently. They are looking for a way out of this bad streak and are playing against a team that is playing really good lately.

Why are Newcastle in bad shape? They have one defeat in their last five matches. Just because they're in 7th place doesn't mean they're not playing well, it means top-5 very competitive in the top 5 and you can't argue with that. I don't expect Newcastle to win, but I don't think Chelsea will win either, probably a draw

Unless he is misinterpreting the whole thing. Newcastle are currently having a great performance in the premier league and they are doing just fine. The only league they have slight challenges is in the UCL. Where they are at the bottom of the group F stage. If by January the next transfer window they should sign more players to the team so that they can fill up the space of those who are injured. Because Newcastle has a lot of injury players which is affecting the way they play now. Still they do come out with a positive result.

[rahmad2nd]

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I think the game is open to be won by either of Chelsea and Newcastle United. While Chelsea are knownn to be an inconsistent team and poor in front of goal; this season Newcastle United has also been inconsistent and injury ravaged which is enough reason to help gamblers understand its either any team wins or a draw ensues

Personally, i think Chelsea will win the tie, they are in good spirits and better form as well.

It seems that this match will feature an exciting battle, because the bookie does not favor either of these two teams. Newcastle with odds @2.55, as well as Chelsea which has the same odds. It seems likely that this match will end in a draw. Apart from that, currently Newcastle has many players who will be absent. whether it's due to injury, or suspended players. In essence, Newcastle's position is not in an advantageous position, although in fact I can't confirm which players will be absent ahead of the match against Chelsea. However, because they were playing at home, Newcastle received more support from their supporters. ideally, this fight would end in a draw.

On the other hand, Chelsea's condition cannot be said to be better than Newcastle. After all, these two teams are equally unstable in performance. The difference is, Chelsea was able to keep up with City and beat Spurs in their last two matches. However, their consistency for the next match does not guarantee anything. That's why I think this match will end in a draw. However, it is possible that Chelsea will be able to progress well for the third match in a row without defeat and overthrow Newcastle. It's just that, it doesn't look like there are many goals in this match. To be sure, let's just follow how these two teams fare tomorrow.

[arimamib]

Chelsea would be motivated by the positive outcome of their two previous matches firstly they defeated unbeaten Tottenham Hotspur and later drew with Man City in a game dubbed to be their best this season, it's obvious Newcastle united had been inconsistent with their performance lost against lowly rated Bournemouth last week thus I don't think they would pose any threat against Chelsea tomorrow, I think Chelsea had started to regain their confidence in the league despite all the prediction and speculation about them losing to Man City yet put up a brilliant performance and playing against Newcastle I think they game is going to end in a draw or Chelsea win narrowly with a lone goal.

This newfound confidence by Chelsea will serve them well as they face Newcastle United, a team that has struggled for consistency lately. Newcastle United's recent defeat to Bournemouth highlights their vulnerability, and it's unlikely they will pose a significant threat to Chelsea's resurgent spirit. Chelsea's attacking prowess, evident in their recent matches, should be enough to overcome Newcastle's defenses.

Chelsea's current momentum suggests they are on fire and gaining confidence that makes them will be at their best for 3 points. Newcastle, on the other hand, always win at home except against Liverpool. This game is about two teams who want to get back winning mentality. A narrow victory, solidifying their position in the league standings, seems like a likely scenario.

[EL MOHA]

Why are Newcastle in bad shape? They have one defeat in their last five matches. Just because they're in 7th place doesn't mean they're not playing well, it means top-5 very competitive in the top 5 and you can't argue with that. I don't expect Newcastle to win, but I don't think Chelsea will win either, probably a draw

Leave the Newcastle performance aside have you look at their injury list? They basically have some key players out and that has been shown already in their UCL and EPL defeats. If you read about Trippier confrontation with a fan in their last match you will know they are a team in crises. The bad news for Newcastle is the good news for Chelsea as they continue to welcome back their injured players back to training. This will have a big boost for them towards this game. Chelsea have done well so far against the traditional top six teams they have played and with the win against Tottenham and a dramatic draw against champions Manchester City I would say they have a better chance of winning than Newcastle. But one thing that will make this prediction hard is the return from international break, Chelsea could go out and lose base on the duties that there players were on.

Yes, by the way, it’s quite a pity that such incredible players as KDB and Thomas Müller have somehow been in the shadow of other players throughout their careers. I find this extremely unfair, especially in relation to Muller, who became a world champion at the national team level, but for some reason it never occurred to anyone to extol him. A move to United would be a disaster, I hope that next season both Muller and KDB will play in Saudi Arabia.

The lists of players that should have actually won a personal silverwares during this Messi-Ronaldo era is so long that we can list them just yet and as you said both KDB and Muller are up there too. Should he not a get a contract extension at Bayern Munich I feel he should leave, because they say leave when the ovation is still high, he easily get a proposal from various clubs in the German league and since Bayern doesn’t have a direct rival like the EPL where it is almost taboo to play for the rivals he could just join any of the clubs there. Coming to Manchester United will be a bad decision not to only Muller but to Manchester United themselves, not to disrespect United don’t need to bring in more agey players again with the situation they are in currently. The continuous signing of big but old players have been there undoing since SAF left the club and that has been the reason why the club seems to be stagnant in terms of development and progress or success

[Agbamoni]

I agree with you. At the moment I don't see any chance of Chelsea winning this game. Although the bookies predict this will be an even match but one important note here is that Chelsea are very inconsistent and they often lose against average teams. Newcastle are in their best form and of course they have good statistics in the league this season.

Why don’t you see Chelsea winning the game? The reason that you give sounds somehow to me, I know Chelsea has been inconsistent this season, but they are playing well lately. Chelsea have been losing against weak teams. I agree with that, but don’t you see how they have been playing well against strong teams? Newcastle is playing well this season, and you also know that. I am expecting the match to be a difficult match for Chelsea, but Chelsea should be able to win the match. All you are talking about is Chelsea playing poorly against weak teams, but you are not talking about how they are performing nicely when playing against strong teams.

In many periods last season Man United had a hope of a great return. But looking at the current conditions, expecting them to have a trophy seems to be difficult. Ten Hag failed in building a team with his philosophy. 

I was also expecting Manchester United to be among the contestants for the Premier League this season, but as we can see, their performance is kind of poor this season. I don’t even expect Manchester United to end the season in the top 5 with their current performance, and I am not seeing any improvement in the club's performance. Ten hag made some failed signings in the last transfer window, and I guess the club is having an internal crisis that is really affecting the club's performance.

I kind of agree with your opinions on this Newcastle United v Chelsea  match, currently both clubs is suffering some significant absence in the field due to injury and suspensions with the likes of Burn, Murphy, Wilson, Botman and Barnes out for the Newcastle team as well as Chalobah, Chilwell, Fofana and Nkunku out for the Chelsea team.
It is not going to be an easy game for each of the teams, i believe that with Sterling's current form, he'll be able to create alot of chances for Chelsea, Newcastle in the other hand is not in a bad form equally but may find it hard to comfortably win Chelsea especially given the fact that in their previous 5 meetings Newcastle has only managed to win a single game and equally drawn a match while Chelsea has won 3 of those 5 meetings and drawn 1.
Chelsea is in a better shape and form ton win this match or the fixture could end in a draw.

[GiftedMAN]

I agree with you. At the moment I don't see any chance of Chelsea winning this game. Although the bookies predict this will be an even match but one important note here is that Chelsea are very inconsistent and they often lose against average teams. Newcastle are in their best form and of course they have good statistics in the league this season.

I think the game is open to be won by either of Chelsea and Newcastle United. While Chelsea are knownn to be an inconsistent team and poor in front of goal; this season Newcastle United has also been inconsistent and injury ravaged which is enough reason to help gamblers understand its either any team wins or a draw ensues

Personally, i think Chelsea will win the tie, they are in good spirits and better form as well.

Chelsea can honestly win this match they finally are playing really good and are in good form finally. So i think they can win against Newcastle that is in a really bad form currently. They are looking for a way out of this bad streak and are playing against a team that is playing really good lately.

Why are Newcastle in bad shape? They have one defeat in their last five matches. Just because they're in 7th place doesn't mean they're not playing well, it means top-5 very competitive in the top 5 and you can't argue with that. I don't expect Newcastle to win, but I don't think Chelsea will win either, probably a draw

I think some people are seeing Newcastle to be in bad shape because of their position in the league currently not even considering the most important thing which is their performance in the last few matches. Judging with the performance of Newcastle United and Chelsea this season, regardless of the little improvement that Chelsea has witnessed I think I still see Newcastle United as the favorite team to win in the game.

I think I will agree with your prediction which is a draw because looking at the odds that is given to both teams, the match is likely going to end in a 1:1 draw or 2:2 draw.

[Asiska02]

I agree with you. At the moment I don't see any chance of Chelsea winning this game. Although the bookies predict this will be an even match but one important note here is that Chelsea are very inconsistent and they often lose against average teams. Newcastle are in their best form and of course they have good statistics in the league this season.

Both Newcastle United and Chelsea are playing very well at the moment, and I can’t predict what the outcome of this match will be. We have seen that Chelsea have been playing a very good game recently and they play better when playing with bigger teams. I will not call Newcastle United a big team but an average team, so the outcome of this game will be very hard to predict if we want to look at Chelsea’s recent performance to rate them in this match.

In many periods last season Man United had a hope of a great return. But looking at the current conditions, expecting them to have a trophy seems to be difficult. Ten Hag failed in building a team with his philosophy.  They failed to take advantage of the current great players.
I thought, maybe this is a failure of Ten Hag's coaching philosophy.  The strategy is not suitable for the EPL. Experiments with bringing in his former players while at Ajax failed miserably. So maybe Ten Hag is just waiting for the day to get out of Man United.

The players Ten Hag has brought from Ajax can’t save Manchester United from their worst nightmare they’re experiencing now. He has great players now in the squad and what I think he is lacking is the ability to coordinate this team together to give in their best in this league. When talking about sacking him as the manager of the team, I think the management will wait till the end of the season before they will decide on that, hopefully he improved the performance of the team by then.