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It cannot be denied that Arteta is much better than Ten Hag, in making processes for the teams they manage. It is clear that Arsenal's progress is much better than Manchester United's and even for the Man United team there has been no progress in a better direction since Ten Hag's arrival. , the team's performance is unstable despite their success in winning the FA title last season.
For next season, there is still a possibility that Arsenal will still be better than Manchester United, as happened last season, although Ten Hag's team still has the possibility of being able to recover, but I don't think it can surpass Arsenal.
When Arteta first joined Arsenal, Arsenal actually experienced a decline in performance because at the end of the season I remember Arsenal finished in 8th place, whereas in the 2018-2019 season Arsenal managed to reach 5th place, so in my opinion there was a decline in performance. but in my opinion, despite that, the reality is that now Arteta is certainly showing his greatness and now Arsenal's strength is increasing from time to time and of course I personally am also amazed by Arteta. but I am also impressed by Erik ten Hag because since he joined Manchester United, Manchester United's strength has indeed made progress at that time because at the time of Erik ten Hag before joining Manchester United, namely at the end of the 2021-2022 season, Manchester United managed to finish in 6th place, whereas in when Erik ten Hag joined at the end of the 2022-2023 season, Manchester United managed to finish in 3rd place, but yes, it is very unfortunate that in the season that continues, there are Manchester United players who are injured, which of course makes Manchester United's performance decline. But yes, it is true. It's a shame that Manchester United's performance in the EPL has declined unlike Arsenal's, but of course with this, I hope Tenhag can improve it next season. Personally, I am neutral in this matter because what I see is that Arteta is a coach who succeeded in building Arsenal and until now his performance continues to improve. However, I personally saw that Erik Ten Hag succeeded in bringing Manchester United to become FA champions. I think that is a plus for Ten Hag. Yes, although many people want Manchester United to win the EPL, yes, of course Ten Hag probably needs a process to build Manchester United and of course in the next season we will see Ten Hag's work, but what is certain is that I am sure Ten Hag will have the potential to be better than the season just now. end. Yes, of course I see that Ten Hag has special qualities, and so does Arteta. For next season, I personally also predict that Manchester United will certainly find it difficult to surpass Arsenal, but I am sure that Manchester United's performance will be better.
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Trent Alexander-Arnold seems a loyal player for Liverpool. Trent Alexander-Arnold started playing for Liverpool in 2016 and he had good performance during this time, he achieved many titles with his team and won many trophies but Trent Alexander-Arnold he recently had an offer from Real Madrid. Since he has a good relationship with Jude Blingham this player was about to leave but he is going to stay in Liverpool and it seems Trent Alexander-Arnold is not going to leave his team even for a team like Real Madrid. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F07%2F24%2F4c7FI.png&t=665&c=Xl2flMmU3G3aIg) For many years he has been with Liverpool since he was 17 years old it would have been quite difficult for him to leave this club but getting an offer from Real Madrid would have been difficult to refuse because Real Madrid is a top club and has more achievements than Liverpool but yes this is It depends on Trent Alexander Arnold's decision whether he is willing to remain loyal to Liverpool or decides to leave. Liverpool certainly don't want to lose this player for nothing and will definitely offer him a new contract, but if he wants to join Real Madrid I don't think this club will buy him now they will wait for the player next season on a free transfer, but for now Real Madrid will continue to monitor him. I have discuss about this before and Real Madrid is look for new right back because it is impossible to always be rely on Dani Carvajal for each matches of next season especially next season Real Madrid will be very busy because they have to playing at several different of competitions besides that we can see Dani Carvajal is not young anymore because his age also above to 30 years old so Real Madrid want at least 1 more player for right back position and they have several candidates including Trent Alexander-Arnold Trent Alexander-Arnold is from Liverpool academy and i am sure he loves this team and if Liverpool is still need his service i am sure he would give his priority for Liverpool and for next season although Liverpool have new manager Arne Slot but Trent Alexander-Arnold has been confirm that he won't be leave this team especially Arne Slot also want him to stayed because he feel Trent Alexander-Arnold is still important for Liverpool especially for right back position i have to says Trent Alexander-Arnold irreplaceable I was a bit worried about Trent Alexander-Arnold future in Liverpool because his contract will be expired on next year but recently i have read the news that Liverpool still prepare to give Trent Alexander-Arnold new contract and it says Liverpool will give him long term duration contract and i think this is good news because at least Liverpool is concern about this rumour and i think if Liverpool is really give Trent Alexander-Arnold new contract then most likely this transfer will not be happend and Real Madrid has just wasting their time because obviously Trent Alexander-Arnold will signs that contract
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I don't think, this defeat will move any Manchester city fans, because they know what Manchester city can do when the premier league competition and other competition start, and they will still going to display well next season. That is the strategy many managers are using in this pre-season matches, because that is the best way to test their new players or to allow the players they always bench in some matches to showcase their talents for their managers to know how good they are in this summer season, which is what Manchester city manager did in this pre-season match. As long Manchester city manager is still with Manchester city in this season till next season, they will still get it right next season, because he know what to do to correct the mistakes of his players in this pre-season matches for them to perform well when tournament start.
The pre-season match doesn't mean anything. I don't think anyone is exaggerating that, Manchester City is a team that already has quite a strong character and what happened in the pre-season match was an attempt by the coach to make a lot of changes or trials so it's only natural that the result not optimal. Regardless of what happens, Manchester City have proven that they have quite good quality and consistency over the last few seasons so this could also happen next season, I think no one doubts that. According to him, the defeat really still has shortcomings in the Man City squad, even though it's only a friendly match, at least Pep is able to fix the shortcomings in his squad, the concentration must be really right in the next match against Milan, I believe Man City will be able to beat Milan in the next match at least still optimistic even though playing with a makeshift squad.
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July 25, 2024, 07:02:44 AM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F07%2F23%2F4Jyhw.png&t=665&c=Ns392PZVr2XenQ) This is the fifth year running that Manchester City has dominated the EPL. Pep Guardiola has dominated over every single manager in the EPL including Jurgen Klopp, Mikel Arteta and others. But Erik Ten Hag sees things differently, he says Pep Guardiola is the only manager to have won more trophies than him in recent times. In the past two years where ETH has been Manchester United’s manger, he’s had two trophies to show in his acquisition. But by the standard of Manchester United, this shouldn’t be something to brag about. They have fallen down the pecking order. Manchester United Standard should be competing for league dominance and fighting for UEFA Champions league. Looking at the stats and the performance of Manchester United in the last two seasons. Do you think Erik Ten Hag has bragging rights? Come to think of it ETH is right, since he came to the EPL no manager have won any trophy that Man City are also competing and he has been the second best, where we have Arteta, Klopp and the others, you see him getting a trophy out of the two coaches so why are we saying he isn't the second best? Fine Manchester United haven't been pretty good but let's give the man some credit for the little he has done with the side by winning something no matter how small it is and some would want ETH to win the EPL title but he can't win it because they're not up to that level. What ETH said was the truth here. Ten Hag counted it since he came to United, and it's not about overall performance. Ten Hag won two trophies in his two seasons at Manchester United. Arteta and Klopp are tied for third with one trophy each. Arteta won 1 Community Shield and Klopp 1 Carabao Cup. It makes sense for Ten Hag to claim he's the best after Pep Guardiola. He did not count the overall performance, and It was only since 2022/2023. Ten Hag is now rebuilding his club seriously. We may see Manchester United come back to compete with City and Arsenal for the EPL trophy. Probably yes, because I have said this before in the past that Eric ten hang is a proven winner, in as much as Manchester united aren't doing well in the league but they still manage to be winning something, which is very good, though their performance in the league over the past two seasons under his watch is terribly bad, and it is what they have to improve on, on the longer run, but I agree with him in his argument that after pep guardiola, he is the most successful manager in the English premier league in the past two seasons. So I believe that this upcoming season is the season that will mostly define his future, wether he going to stay more years at the club or he is going to be show the exit door, but in my own perspective, I really don't think the problem of Manchester united is because of the manager alone, because so many good managers has managed Manchester united in the past, and still yet, they are just the same, not gotten back to that level they were under sir Alex Ferguson, so sacking him wouldn't change anything, it's more of how the club is being structured that is affecting the club.
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July 25, 2024, 07:04:26 AM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F07%2F23%2F4Jyhw.png&t=665&c=Ns392PZVr2XenQ) This is the fifth year running that Manchester City has dominated the EPL. Pep Guardiola has dominated over every single manager in the EPL including Jurgen Klopp, Mikel Arteta and others. But Erik Ten Hag sees things differently, he says Pep Guardiola is the only manager to have won more trophies than him in recent times. In the past two years where ETH has been Manchester United’s manger, he’s had two trophies to show in his acquisition. But by the standard of Manchester United, this shouldn’t be something to brag about. They have fallen down the pecking order. Manchester United Standard should be competing for league dominance and fighting for UEFA Champions league. Looking at the stats and the performance of Manchester United in the last two seasons. Do you think Erik Ten Hag has bragging rights? Come to think of it ETH is right, since he came to the EPL no manager have won any trophy that Man City are also competing and he has been the second best, where we have Arteta, Klopp and the others, you see him getting a trophy out of the two coaches so why are we saying he isn't the second best? Fine Manchester United haven't been pretty good but let's give the man some credit for the little he has done with the side by winning something no matter how small it is and some would want ETH to win the EPL title but he can't win it because they're not up to that level. What ETH said was the truth here. Ten Hag counted it since he came to United, and it's not about overall performance. Ten Hag won two trophies in his two seasons at Manchester United. Arteta and Klopp are tied for third with one trophy each. Arteta won 1 Community Shield and Klopp 1 Carabao Cup. It makes sense for Ten Hag to claim he's the best after Pep Guardiola. He did not count the overall performance, and It was only since 2022/2023. Ten Hag is now rebuilding his club seriously. We may see Manchester United come back to compete with City and Arsenal for the EPL trophy. Am not against Ten Hag rating himself high after all it creates more confident thinking positive and high of oneself especially in a robust competitive ground like the EPL. However, I don't agree with his rating of himself that high above Mikel Aretha and J. Klopp, if we have to contrast the performance of the three coaches teams they manage we can see that Manchester united is lagging behind Arsenal and Liverpool in the last season. Ten hag has only been luckier than klopp and Aretha by winning two trophies since he arrived at UTD, for if it's by performances he's no where near klopp or Aretha. Unfortunately, trophies are what we just use to judge how better a manager is than another but we can't outrightly jettison performance too because that's what raise the games to the interest and entertainment of the fans than winning a trophy in a boring way. But for this next season, with what Ten Had is doing at Manchester united am trusting he's going to get better with performance with his team, hopefully.
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Arsenal played out a 1-1 draw with Bournemouth in a preseason match in the US. It was quite entertaining because it featured some academy players and they all performed well. I have always wished for them to feature in games under Arteta. Even if it’s the cups, with what I saw in that game, I think these young midfielders should be given a chance. The time is now. Nwaneri impressed me I’m that game. Honestly, I don’t see why a Nwaneri can’t play in a 3 man midfield with other experienced midfielders vs 2nd division teams. I expect Arteta to integrate a lot of these young talents into the team when the season starts. They have a point to prove and if given the right opportunity, I think they’ll excel.
This pre-season match is an opportunity for coaches to try using the latest strategies or perhaps try to give experience to young players as Arteta has done currently. In my opinion, Arsenal's performance was quite impressive even though it looked a little irregular, but I understand that these players may still lack experience but were lucky to win in the penalty round. I bet on Arsenal in this match but unfortunately my bet lost because I was hoping to get 1 more score for victory but Nwaneri failed to score when he had a good chance.
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July 25, 2024, 07:41:58 AM |
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Am not against Ten Hag rating himself high after all it creates more confident thinking positive and high of oneself especially in a robust competitive ground like the EPL. However, I don't agree with his rating of himself that high above Mikel Aretha and J. Klopp, if we have to contrast the performance of the three coaches teams they manage we can see that Manchester united is lagging behind Arsenal and Liverpool in the last season. Ten hag has only been luckier than klopp and Aretha by winning two trophies since he arrived at UTD, for if it's by performances he's no where near klopp or Aretha.
Unfortunately, trophies are what we just use to judge how better a manager is than another but we can't outrightly jettison performance too because that's what raise the games to the interest and entertainment of the fans than winning a trophy in a boring way. But for this next season, with what Ten Had is doing at Manchester united am trusting he's going to get better with performance with his team, hopefully.
Indeed, since the beginning of Ten Hag's arrival as Manchester United coach, he has been too self-confident and very, very excessive. After 2 seasons, we see that there has been no progress in this team, which has increased sharply since it was built by Ten Hag. In fact, there has been no progress when compared to Arsenal, which was built by Arteta. What Ten Hag said was without basic evidence, he only said it to increase his self-confidence, actually there was nothing wrong with that, but many people didn't like his attitude like that. I think next season will be the last season for Ten Hag if he doesn't succeed in lifting Manchester United's performance, next season will be the last chance for him. I don't know what will happen, but I'm a little pessimistic about it.
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Arsenal played out a 1-1 draw with Bournemouth in a preseason match in the US. It was quite entertaining because it featured some academy players and they all performed well. I have always wished for them to feature in games under Arteta. Even if it’s the cups, with what I saw in that game, I think these young midfielders should be given a chance. The time is now. Nwaneri impressed me I’m that game. Honestly, I don’t see why a Nwaneri can’t play in a 3 man midfield with other experienced midfielders vs 2nd division teams. I expect Arteta to integrate a lot of these young talents into the team when the season starts. They have a point to prove and if given the right opportunity, I think they’ll excel.
Pre-season matches or friendly matches are actually just like training phase because they play without fighting for anything and don't have to win, but if matches like this always end badly then that quite disappointing. So far there have been many unsatisfactory results in pre-season matches and this has made some football fans feel bored, they want to see their favorite team win but have to see the match go not according to expectations. But basically, most big teams during pre-season matches always use their reserve players as priority in the squad, for the core players who were previously always prioritized may only play in half the matches. This is done to provide more experience and also to see the development potential of reserve players who previously rarely had the opportunity to play in important matches. Moreover, if something bad happens to the core players it will also be detrimental to the team and this can affect the team performance when they start the new season in the competition they are participating in.
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Am not against Ten Hag rating himself high after all it creates more confident thinking positive and high of oneself especially in a robust competitive ground like the EPL. However, I don't agree with his rating of himself that high above Mikel Aretha and J. Klopp, if we have to contrast the performance of the three coaches teams they manage we can see that Manchester united is lagging behind Arsenal and Liverpool in the last season. Ten hag has only been luckier than klopp and Aretha by winning two trophies since he arrived at UTD, for if it's by performances he's no where near klopp or Aretha.
Unfortunately, trophies are what we just use to judge how better a manager is than another but we can't outrightly jettison performance too because that's what raise the games to the interest and entertainment of the fans than winning a trophy in a boring way. But for this next season, with what Ten Had is doing at Manchester united am trusting he's going to get better with performance with his team, hopefully.
Indeed, since the beginning of Ten Hag's arrival as Manchester United coach, he has been too self-confident and very, very excessive. After 2 seasons, we see that there has been no progress in this team, which has increased sharply since it was built by Ten Hag. In fact, there has been no progress when compared to Arsenal, which was built by Arteta. What Ten Hag said was without basic evidence, he only said it to increase his self-confidence, actually there was nothing wrong with that, but many people didn't like his attitude like that. I think next season will be the last season for Ten Hag if he doesn't succeed in lifting Manchester United's performance, next season will be the last chance for him. I don't know what will happen, but I'm a little pessimistic about it. At first, I also thought it was quite strange for Man United to keep Ten Hag because Man United played very badly in the Premier League last season. But after looking at some facts, where many players are injured and despite that condition, Ten Hag still managed to win the FA Cup, that made me reconsider that Ten Hag may have the potential to make Man United even better. But for that, he must be given the opportunity and more time to make long-term plans work according to everyone's expectations.
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July 25, 2024, 08:35:40 AM |
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According to him, the defeat really still has shortcomings in the Man City squad, even though it's only a friendly match, at least Pep is able to fix the shortcomings in his squad, the concentration must be really right in the next match against Milan, I believe Man City will be able to beat Milan in the next match at least still optimistic even though playing with a makeshift squad.
The Manchester City coach is a person who is quite observant in seeing the condition of the team he coaches so that he will not even be so worried about the defeat because it can also be used as a lesson to make more meaningful improvements for the team before the new season starts. However, friendly matches must also be considered important by each team because from these matches each coach can see which lines still have weaknesses so that they can all act immediately to improve the things that are still weak now.
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July 25, 2024, 08:38:26 AM |
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Am not against Ten Hag rating himself high after all it creates more confident thinking positive and high of oneself especially in a robust competitive ground like the EPL. However, I don't agree with his rating of himself that high above Mikel Aretha and J. Klopp, if we have to contrast the performance of the three coaches teams they manage we can see that Manchester united is lagging behind Arsenal and Liverpool in the last season. Ten hag has only been luckier than klopp and Aretha by winning two trophies since he arrived at UTD, for if it's by performances he's no where near klopp or Aretha.
Unfortunately, trophies are what we just use to judge how better a manager is than another but we can't outrightly jettison performance too because that's what raise the games to the interest and entertainment of the fans than winning a trophy in a boring way. But for this next season, with what Ten Had is doing at Manchester united am trusting he's going to get better with performance with his team, hopefully.
Indeed, since the beginning of Ten Hag's arrival as Manchester United coach, he has been too self-confident and very, very excessive. After 2 seasons, we see that there has been no progress in this team, which has increased sharply since it was built by Ten Hag. In fact, there has been no progress when compared to Arsenal, which was built by Arteta. What Ten Hag said was without basic evidence, he only said it to increase his self-confidence, actually there was nothing wrong with that, but many people didn't like his attitude like that. I think next season will be the last season for Ten Hag if he doesn't succeed in lifting Manchester United's performance, next season will be the last chance for him. I don't know what will happen, but I'm a little pessimistic about it. At first, I also thought it was quite strange for Man United to keep Ten Hag because Man United played very badly in the Premier League last season. But after looking at some facts, where many players are injured and despite that condition, Ten Hag still managed to win the FA Cup, that made me reconsider that Ten Hag may have the potential to make Man United even better. But for that, he must be given the opportunity and more time to make long-term plans work according to everyone's expectations. The Glazier's not kicking his ass out of the club was one great decision because from all considerations of the profiles that were eyeing the manager's position in Manchester united, when the Glazier's thought of sacking him due to the poor performance of the season before he managed to win the FA cup against Manchester City, there was none in those list of managers that could have done better than Ten Hag. Giving him another opportunity to man the club now everyone expects to see UTD upgrade in all aspects fighting to win major trophies and ending among the top four teams in the EPL table by the end of next season will be a commendable feat for the fans. Maybe then, we can agree to his hyping of himself.
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July 25, 2024, 08:48:59 AM |
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Arsenal played out a 1-1 draw with Bournemouth in a preseason match in the US. It was quite entertaining because it featured some academy players and they all performed well. I have always wished for them to feature in games under Arteta. Even if it’s the cups, with what I saw in that game, I think these young midfielders should be given a chance. The time is now. Nwaneri impressed me I’m that game. Honestly, I don’t see why a Nwaneri can’t play in a 3 man midfield with other experienced midfielders vs 2nd division teams. I expect Arteta to integrate a lot of these young talents into the team when the season starts. They have a point to prove and if given the right opportunity, I think they’ll excel.
Pre season games are always fun and interesting to watch especially for the fact that you get to see some good academy players in action but sometimes not all are ready to to be part of the team yet they still need some more time to develop fully. If you notice nowadays cup games are not like they used to be back in the days where teams will use their academy players to play, all teams are now competing to win any trophy they can get their hands on no matter how small it is. Coaches now understand that academy players cannot be used to compete against another team’s main squad so that’s why it difficult to use their academy players in cup games nowadays or would you have supported Arteta if he uses his academy boys to play in the FA cup against Chelsea’s main squad? If he gets eliminated definitely everyone will question him.
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At first, I also thought it was quite strange for Man United to keep Ten Hag because Man United played very badly in the Premier League last season. But after looking at some facts, where many players are injured and despite that condition, Ten Hag still managed to win the FA Cup, that made me reconsider that Ten Hag may have the potential to make Man United even better. But for that, he must be given the opportunity and more time to make long-term plans work according to everyone's expectations.
Yeah he should be given more time to plan a long term plan for the club, at least even though later he live still the players can still be useful, Ten Hag have just cut many eyes since last season that why people don't take eye off him, to my observation he receives more challenges from fans last season than any club and they are at it again, Manchester city lost a friendly game yesterday and everywhere was quite and when Manchester United lost the are shooting as if it was a recognised competition, sometime performance in pre season don't guarantee sucess in the main leagues, we have see teams that start well at the beginning but unfortunately fail to reach the end. A time like Aston villa that manages to finished in top four are busy spending money to make themselves on the top this cost season, they have spent more than any club in Europe.
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July 25, 2024, 11:16:06 AM |
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Indeed, since the beginning of Ten Hag's arrival as Manchester United coach, he has been too self-confident and very, very excessive. After 2 seasons, we see that there has been no progress in this team, which has increased sharply since it was built by Ten Hag. In fact, there has been no progress when compared to Arsenal, which was built by Arteta. What Ten Hag said was without basic evidence, he only said it to increase his self-confidence, actually there was nothing wrong with that, but many people didn't like his attitude like that.
Everyone, especially Manchester United fans themselves, will see how Ten Hag spends next season with Manchester United and if there are no changes or it could even be worse than last season. I think it is time for the Manchester United club management to replace him with a new coach with more basic experience and much more brilliant achievements. Because I'm sure Manchester United themselves are also quite tired of their current condition and the unsatisfactory results in the last two seasons under Ten Hag's coaching.
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July 25, 2024, 11:44:49 AM Last edit: July 25, 2024, 02:47:44 PM by Oluwa-btc |
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Indeed, since the beginning of Ten Hag's arrival as Manchester United coach, he has been too self-confident and very, very excessive. After 2 seasons, we see that there has been no progress in this team, which has increased sharply since it was built by Ten Hag. In fact, there has been no progress when compared to Arsenal, which was built by Arteta. What Ten Hag said was without basic evidence, he only said it to increase his self-confidence, actually there was nothing wrong with that, but many people didn't like his attitude like that.
I think next season will be the last season for Ten Hag if he doesn't succeed in lifting Manchester United's performance, next season will be the last chance for him. I don't know what will happen, but I'm a little pessimistic about it.
What combination of garbage is this please? You don't want him to be confident or what are you saying? Are you such a weak man in reality? What is your definition of progress? Take a look back two seasons before Erik Ten Hag came and two seasons after he came in as manager, are the changes not obviously seen? What pure nonsense are you saying? You're not a football fan, has no good knowledge of football, just here to paraphrase and complete post count. Manchester United nor Erik Ten Hag is in a direct competition with Arsenal. What you have written is purely shit without knowledge, I hate it when you all slander the manager this way. Why not watch football with bias? He has always been a manager with confidence, it's okay for people not to like your attitude, you'll never grow as a man until you begin to accept things that way. He cannot please the bloody crowd. You don't know nothing about Manchester United to make such predictions. Your views are for you all along. Without clearing names like Harry Maguire, Scott MC Tominay, Victor Lindelof, Aaron Wan Bisakka, Antony, Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho and Casemiro sitting on the bench, Manchester United are obviously going nowhere. Erik Ten Hag knows this and same goes with the board and management.
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July 25, 2024, 11:59:18 AM |
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The Manchester City coach is a person who is quite observant in seeing the condition of the team he coaches so that he will not even be so worried about the defeat because it can also be used as a lesson to make more meaningful improvements for the team before the new season starts. However, friendly matches must also be considered important by each team because from these matches each coach can see which lines still have weaknesses so that they can all act immediately to improve the things that are still weak now.
Before drawing conclusions about this match, look at the lineups that these teams played. In this match, Guardiola wanted to see what the young players were capable of, so I am not surprised by this result. This is what friendly matches are for, when you can evaluate a player in a real match, and not in training. On the other hand, even with this squad they were able to show a very close game, so despite the defeat, I think that Guardiola can assess this result as satisfactory, except that there are complaints about the defensive players.
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July 25, 2024, 12:03:13 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F07%2F25%2F4o4cd.jpeg&t=665&c=2ih0QC_X-nshlA) My eyes can't see this wrong, right? It's not a matter of a draw in normal time but everything has to be decided by a penalty shootout in the pre-season match between Arsenal and Bournemouth and this really invites laughter. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It is not surprising that pre-season matches will always be boring and there will be no excitement even though the favorite team is the favorite and like other top EPL teams, Arsenal also find it quite difficult to win. Bournemouth, who will still participate in the EPL next season, is taking this opportunity to find out how to stop Arsenal when they face each other in an official match later. Well, in the end Arsenal won very narrowly on penalties and at least they had to immediately improve their game.
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Amphenomenon
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July 25, 2024, 12:16:36 PM |
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Maybe for some teams it's an indicator to win a preseason game, but I think it's just to appease themselves, nothing more. For serious teams, it's a chance to release those players that the coaches will definitely not release in EPL matches, because every match is important there and a mistake by a young player can cost a defeat in the end. So the appearance of new players today is a good sign
I am not surprised by the result of the match. Manchester City losing a pre-season match doesn’t mean anything, it doesn’t mean that Manchester City won’t be performing well when the season starts. We all know that most clubs won’t be making use of their main squad in pre-season matches, they do make use of the players that they are always keeping as reserves, so we can’t conclude how a club will perform when the season starts. But I am still expecting Manchester City to perform well when the season starts, we shouldn’t start concluding that there is a drop in their performance just because of the pre-season match. I don't think, this defeat will move any Manchester city fans, because they know what Manchester city can do when the premier league competition and other competition start, and they will still going to display well next season. That is the strategy many managers are using in this pre-season matches, because that is the best way to test their new players or to allow the players they always bench in some matches to showcase their talents for their managers to know how good they are in this summer season, which is what Manchester city manager did in this pre-season match. As long Manchester city manager is still with Manchester city in this season till next season, they will still get it right next season, because he know what to do to correct the mistakes of his players in this pre-season matches for them to perform well when tournament start. Except I did place a bet in this game thinking Man City would be victorious, I don`t see any reason to bother myself about the outcome since I know this is just pre-season matches it doesn`t really count and from the fact that we know how consistent City as always been when the league begins. Liverpool and Man United lost their first Pre-season while Arsenal and Chelsea end up with a draw though Arsenal won by penalty shoot-out.
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Spaceman1000$
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July 25, 2024, 12:20:57 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F07%2F23%2F4Jyhw.png&t=665&c=Ns392PZVr2XenQ) This is the fifth year running that Manchester City has dominated the EPL. Pep Guardiola has dominated over every single manager in the EPL including Jurgen Klopp, Mikel Arteta and others. But Erik Ten Hag sees things differently, he says Pep Guardiola is the only manager to have won more trophies than him in recent times. In the past two years where ETH has been Manchester United’s manger, he’s had two trophies to show in his acquisition. But by the standard of Manchester United, this shouldn’t be something to brag about. They have fallen down the pecking order. Manchester United Standard should be competing for league dominance and fighting for UEFA Champions league. Looking at the stats and the performance of Manchester United in the last two seasons. Do you think Erik Ten Hag has bragging rights? Come to think of it ETH is right, since he came to the EPL no manager have won any trophy that Man City are also competing and he has been the second best, where we have Arteta, Klopp and the others, you see him getting a trophy out of the two coaches so why are we saying he isn't the second best? Fine Manchester United haven't been pretty good but let's give the man some credit for the little he has done with the side by winning something no matter how small it is and some would want ETH to win the EPL title but he can't win it because they're not up to that level. What ETH said was the truth here. Ten Hag counted it since he came to United, and it's not about overall performance. Ten Hag won two trophies in his two seasons at Manchester United. Arteta and Klopp are tied for third with one trophy each. Arteta won 1 Community Shield and Klopp 1 Carabao Cup. It makes sense for Ten Hag to claim he's the best after Pep Guardiola. He did not count the overall performance, and It was only since 2022/2023. Ten Hag is now rebuilding his club seriously. We may see Manchester United come back to compete with City and Arsenal for the EPL trophy. ETH should cut us some slack, he hasn't really shown too much of excellence to pride himself to be the second best after pep guardiola, the aesthetics of his overall performance for last season and the season before doesn't place him above Mikel arteta, we respect the fact that he won the 2023/2024 FA cup which gave him the leverage to qualify for the Europa league next season, meanwhile Mikel arteta is competing on a higher ground in the champions league. So for me, I will certainly place arteta over ETH. if there are any magic ETH wants to perform, let him do it this coming season.
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July 25, 2024, 12:23:47 PM |
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Enzo Fernandez after winning the Copa America with his national team Argentina posted a video on his social media account which appeared to be racist chants that targeted France national team players, the video drew criticisms from many especially from France internationals and some even had to unfollow him on social media. However, he has publicly apologized since fbe incident happened and today, Chelsea manager Enzo Maresca as well as the captain Reece James in their interview has disclosed that Enzo Fernandez will be accepted back to the team when he rejoins with the squad after his summer holiday. It's a good news for Chelsea fans if you ask me but Fernandez who have been forgiven by all must be careful of his actions going forward so that people don't see him as a racist ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F07%2F24%2F4ccZb.jpeg&t=665&c=0Dc_oXELZ5R-Xw) A lot of things do not surprise me anyone. I still remember people who defended the former president of the Spanish football federation after he had the controversy over kissing one of the players in the Spanish national team after they won the Women's World Cup. Likewise I see people trying to defend the song. Then again Enzo is not the first player to have made some kind of racial slur. Luis Suárez, John Terry have had some racial issues in the past and they survived it with their career intact. Enzo Fernandez has made a public apology and I think with the right PR, his career may be able to survive this.
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