Premier League Prediction Thread 2024/2025

[reagansimms]

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Before drawing conclusions about this match, look at the lineups that these teams played. In this match, Guardiola wanted to see what the young players were capable of, so I am not surprised by this result. This is what friendly matches are for, when you can evaluate a player in a real match, and not in training. On the other hand, even with this squad they were able to show a very close game, so despite the defeat, I think that Guardiola can assess this result as satisfactory, except that there are complaints about the defensive players.

The squad that Guardiola fielded was predominantly filled with young players, so this defeat cannot be considered a negative result because Guardiola assessed this result from a different angle. It has become a habit for coaches to always give opportunities to young players when playing in pre-season tour matches. Guardiola, who is known to be very good at developing the abilities of young players, will use pre-season matches to assess the abilities of his players.

In this match there were two young players who really stood out compared to the other players. Rico Lewis and Oscar Bobb are showing very good performances, he will certainly get more playing opportunities during pre-season. Guardiola will not mind this defeat because this is a test match before the official match starts, maybe there will be another surprise after the pre-season ends, Guardiola will promote young players to the first team because their performances are above average.

[Chilwell]

My eyes can't see this wrong, right? It's not a matter of a draw in normal time but everything has to be decided by a penalty shootout in the pre-season match between Arsenal and Bournemouth and this really invites laughter.

It is not surprising that pre-season matches will always be boring and there will be no excitement even though the favorite team is the favorite and like other top EPL teams, Arsenal also find it quite difficult to win. Bournemouth, who will still participate in the EPL next season, is taking this opportunity to find out how to stop Arsenal when they face each other in an official match later. Well, in the end Arsenal won very narrowly on penalties and at least they had to immediately improve their game.

I wanted to say because it was friendly but even though was it shouldn't have to be this way, no single big chances created by Arsenal this is so bad, take for instance Bayern Munich that played 14 - 1 despite the win I wasn't happy with them because this is not their first time of playing and they do scored below 20 goals, yeah we can compare Bournemouth and that club because Bournemouth is also a first class club presently in Champions league, but Arsenal should have try more than that, next time they will be meet with Bournemouth they will find it difficult to win because they know how strong arsenal is and they will be fully prepare to take them down.

[Baki202]

Before drawing conclusions about this match, look at the lineups that these teams played. In this match, Guardiola wanted to see what the young players were capable of, so I am not surprised by this result. This is what friendly matches are for, when you can evaluate a player in a real match, and not in training. On the other hand, even with this squad they were able to show a very close game, so despite the defeat, I think that Guardiola can assess this result as satisfactory, except that there are complaints about the defensive players.

To some extent, I wasn't expecting Celtic to play Manchester City youth with such seriously; even in the first go, the Celtics scored due to open defense because the game was friendly. I appreciate how Pep Deed is trying to bring out the best in the young players. makes us aware of the majority of the small errors that could end up costing us a lot when the season really begins. Occasionally, the majority of these players die from overconfidence. Examine Haaland's second effort. It was absurd. The goalkeeper parried what would have been a flawless goal. What more will Order clubs come up with if Celtic can play Manchester City like this? I'm not worried, but am I astonished, since even if they might start out strong, you end up screwing up, so the question is how long they can maintain such a high level of performance. And what Pep  did Was amazing using all the players to play a real game aside training shows that pep is actually a smart man.

[Luzin]

So for me, I will certainly place arteta over ETH. if there are any magic ETH wants to perform, let him do it this coming season.

Coaches can always make confident sentences. Ten Hag seems to want to make an opinion to Man United supporters, he is the right choice for Man United. Of course, with the achievement statistics I get, I think Arteta is a little better at the moment. Although this season Man United got 1 FA Cup. But in the current game conditions, Arsenal is better than Man United. But indeed, in the end, the cup is indeed the main goal of the team.

[SOKO-DEKE]

My eyes can't see this wrong, right? It's not a matter of a draw in normal time but everything has to be decided by a penalty shootout in the pre-season match between Arsenal and Bournemouth and this really invites laughter.

It is not surprising that pre-season matches will always be boring and there will be no excitement even though the favorite team is the favorite and like other top EPL teams, Arsenal also find it quite difficult to win. Bournemouth, who will still participate in the EPL next season, is taking this opportunity to find out how to stop Arsenal when they face each other in an official match later. Well, in the end Arsenal won very narrowly on penalties and at least they had to immediately improve their game.

Honestly, some preseason matches are always boring. It is always clear that whenever an average or weak team plays against a strong team, the match tends to be boring. It was not actually surprising that Arsenal drew in a 90-minute game with Bournemouth. Currently, Bournemouth is a Premier League competitor, and I didn't really expect them to take the match lightly with Arsenal. That's exactly what they showed. The truth about Bournemouth is that they are hard to beat sometimes despite being considered a weaker team. We noticed their performance in last season's Premier League.

One thing in football is that surprising things can happen, even in regular competitions, not just in preseason matches. Weak teams can beat strong teams. So, Bournemouth drawing against Arsenal is a normal outcome to me. At least Arsenal has won one of their preseason matches. Let's see how they will play against stronger teams like Manchester United and others.

[Uruhara]

My eyes can't see this wrong, right? It's not a matter of a draw in normal time but everything has to be decided by a penalty shootout in the pre-season match between Arsenal and Bournemouth and this really invites laughter.

It is not surprising that pre-season matches will always be boring and there will be no excitement even though the favorite team is the favorite and like other top EPL teams, Arsenal also find it quite difficult to win. Bournemouth, who will still participate in the EPL next season, is taking this opportunity to find out how to stop Arsenal when they face each other in an official match later. Well, in the end Arsenal won very narrowly on penalties and at least they had to immediately improve their game.

I'm starting to get used to the results of pre-season matches which often feature the favorite team losing. And today even the two favorite teams only got a draw, namely Arsenal, who only managed to get a draw in the pre-season match against Bournemouth in normal time but both teams tried a penalty shootout and the result was that Arsenal won in the penalty shootout. Then Chelsea also got a draw in the pre-season match against Wrexham. And this was Enzo's first debut as a coach there and for several young players who had just arrived at the club. Even though the result was a draw, I saw that Chelsea played very well.

[knowngunman]

The Manchester City coach is a person who is quite observant in seeing the condition of the team he coaches so that he will not even be so worried about the defeat because it can also be used as a lesson to make more meaningful improvements for the team before the new season starts. However, friendly matches must also be considered important by each team because from these matches each coach can see which lines still have weaknesses so that they can all act immediately to improve the things that are still weak now.

Before drawing conclusions about this match, look at the lineups that these teams played. In this match, Guardiola wanted to see what the young players were capable of, so I am not surprised by this result. This is what friendly matches are for, when you can evaluate a player in a real match, and not in training. On the other hand, even with this squad they were able to show a very close game, so despite the defeat, I think that Guardiola can assess this result as satisfactory, except that there are complaints about the defensive players.

Yeah, we've said it several times that preseason games are test of tactics and of course to get the players fit for the season about to start. Guardiola only feature two senior players in the line up if I'm not mistaken. Haaland and Grealish were the only players from the first squad while the rest were the upcoming young talents that he wants to test their stand. The match wasn't too bad but truth be told, City defense was very porous devoid of any tactics. I don't want to criticize based on that result because I know on a norms we would have seen a great performance other than that even if the game would end in defeat. It is less than a month now for the new season to begin and I believe a lot of improvement will be done in the areas of their lapses.

[GiftedMAN]

Only Guardiola has been better than me — Erik ten Hag brags

This is the fifth year running that Manchester City has dominated the EPL. Pep Guardiola has dominated over every single manager in the EPL including Jurgen Klopp, Mikel Arteta and others. But Erik Ten Hag sees things differently, he says Pep Guardiola is the only manager to have won more trophies than him in recent times. In the past two years where ETH has been Manchester United’s manger, he’s had two trophies to show in his acquisition. But by the standard of Manchester United, this shouldn’t be something to brag about. They have fallen down the pecking order. Manchester United Standard should be competing for league dominance and fighting for UEFA Champions league.

Looking at the stats and the performance of Manchester United in the last two seasons. Do you think Erik Ten Hag has bragging rights?

Come to think of it ETH is right, since he came to the EPL no manager have won any trophy that Man City are also competing and he has been the second best, where we have Arteta, Klopp and the others, you see him getting a trophy out of the two coaches so why are we saying he isn't the second best? Fine Manchester United haven't been pretty good but let's give the man some credit for the little he has done with the side by winning something no matter how small it is and some would want ETH to win the EPL title but he can't win it because they're not up to that level.

What ETH said was the truth here.  Ten Hag counted it since he came to United, and it's not about overall performance. Ten Hag won two trophies in his two seasons at Manchester United. Arteta and Klopp are tied for third with one trophy each. Arteta won 1 Community Shield and Klopp 1 Carabao Cup. It makes sense for Ten Hag to claim he's the best after Pep Guardiola. He did not count the overall performance, and It was only since 2022/2023. Ten Hag is now rebuilding his club seriously. We may see Manchester United come back to compete with City and Arsenal for the EPL trophy.

ETH should cut us some slack, he hasn't really shown too much of excellence to pride himself to be the second best after pep guardiola, the aesthetics of his overall performance for last season and the season before doesn't place him above Mikel arteta, we respect the fact that he won the 2023/2024 FA cup which gave him the leverage to qualify for the Europa league next season, meanwhile Mikel arteta is competing on a higher ground in the champions league. So for me, I will certainly place arteta over ETH. if there are any magic ETH wants to perform, let him do it this coming season.

But on a serious note I understand that all the Manchester United fans including me expects to see more from Erik Ten hag but that doesn't mean he shouldn't praise him self a little for the works he has done so far since arriving at old trafford.

Considering the statement he made to be the second best coach in EPL after Pep Guardiola, you can go ahead and argue with anyone from now till the end of the month I think he's saying nothing but the truth, Arsenal has been competing in the English Premier League along side with Manchester City for two seasons now yet they have got no trophies to show for it likewise their performance in the champions league they have no trophy, Erik Ten hag has not won the English Premier League since his arrival but he has qualified the team to the champions League despite not winning the trophy and last season the team were poor in performance but they were still able to qualify to Europa League and they won the FA cup but what did Arsenal and Arteta achieved last season if not the champions league qualification slot that they are sure of not winning next season? do you now understand and believe that Ten hag has a good reason to brag check the records for further arguments.

[KingsDen]

So for me, I will certainly place arteta over ETH. if there are any magic ETH wants to perform, let him do it this coming season.

Coaches can always make confident sentences. Ten Hag seems to want to make an opinion to Man United supporters, he is the right choice for Man United. Of course, with the achievement statistics I get, I think Arteta is a little better at the moment. Although this season Man United got 1 FA Cup. But in the current game conditions, Arsenal is better than Man United. But indeed, in the end, the cup is indeed the main goal of the team.

Comparing Arteta and Eric ten hang is not something we should do in a haste. We should first of all understand where these two coaches are coming from and the duration they have handled their respective clubs. If you can remember some seasons ago it was between Arteta and Ole. While Arsenal had confidence in Arteta and gave him time to excel, Manchester United was so impatient and dismissed Ole. But today Arteta has gained his ground in Arsenal while Manchester United is still doubtful about Eric 10. The difference is that Arsenal trusts Arteta for all his decisions while Manchester United does not trust a Erik10.

If you are talking about the quality of play in each club, you will agree with me that Arteta is better than Erik10. But when you talk about the achievement of the coaches, you have to give it to Erik10. So, choose your best among them.

[Palakka]

The Manchester City coach is a person who is quite observant in seeing the condition of the team he coaches so that he will not even be so worried about the defeat because it can also be used as a lesson to make more meaningful improvements for the team before the new season starts. However, friendly matches must also be considered important by each team because from these matches each coach can see which lines still have weaknesses so that they can all act immediately to improve the things that are still weak now.

Before drawing conclusions about this match, look at the lineups that these teams played. In this match, Guardiola wanted to see what the young players were capable of, so I am not surprised by this result. This is what friendly matches are for, when you can evaluate a player in a real match, and not in training. On the other hand, even with this squad they were able to show a very close game, so despite the defeat, I think that Guardiola can assess this result as satisfactory, except that there are complaints about the defensive players.

Yeah, we've said it several times that preseason games are test of tactics and of course to get the players fit for the season about to start. Guardiola only feature two senior players in the line up if I'm not mistaken. Haaland and Grealish were the only players from the first squad while the rest were the upcoming young talents that he wants to test their stand. The match wasn't too bad but truth be told, City defense was very porous devoid of any tactics. I don't want to criticize based on that result because I know on a norms we would have seen a great performance other than that even if the game would end in defeat. It is less than a month now for the new season to begin and I believe a lot of improvement will be done in the areas of their lapses.

Manchester City defeat in the friendly match must still be taken seriously by Guardiola, because in fact the squad they have is still of better quality than Celtic players, guardiola fielded the majority of young players in that match  but we can confirm that the players are actually is the best young players chosen by Guardiola to fill their line up in the pre-season match, in this case I don't think it matters who Guardiola uses, but with a better strategy Manchester City young squad should be able to produce better results in that match.
indeed we can't use a friendly match as a reference to see the capacity of a team, but actually a friendly match should be an opportunity for young players to show their quality in front of the coach, so I think every young player who played in that match actually gave their all the best but may be hampered by the strategy implemented by Guardiola in that match.

[hahay]

So for me, I will certainly place arteta over ETH. if there are any magic ETH wants to perform, let him do it this coming season.

Coaches can always make confident sentences. Ten Hag seems to want to make an opinion to Man United supporters, he is the right choice for Man United. Of course, with the achievement statistics I get, I think Arteta is a little better at the moment. Although this season Man United got 1 FA Cup. But in the current game conditions, Arsenal is better than Man United. But indeed, in the end, the cup is indeed the main goal of the team.

In fact, Erik ten Hag is a coach who does not accept being blamed because after all, from several defeats obtained by Manchester United, Erik ten Hag also blames the performance of players more often. Therefore, the reality is that Erik ten Hag always wants to be considered perfect, despite the fact that there are many mistakes made by Erik ten Hag such as the choice of purchasing players and also players who were discarded before.

Thus, I think Erik ten Hag does not have a good attitude as a manager. Because after all, as a manager also has the right to admit his mistakes and there is no need to be prestigious to admit mistakes. But if we compare Erik ten Hag with Arteta even though Arsenal didn't get the trophy but anyway, at least Arteta managed to make Arsenal have a more consistent performance compared to Manchester United.

[Frankolala]

The Manchester City coach is a person who is quite observant in seeing the condition of the team he coaches so that he will not even be so worried about the defeat because it can also be used as a lesson to make more meaningful improvements for the team before the new season starts. However, friendly matches must also be considered important by each team because from these matches each coach can see which lines still have weaknesses so that they can all act immediately to improve the things that are still weak now.

Before drawing conclusions about this match, look at the lineups that these teams played. In this match, Guardiola wanted to see what the young players were capable of, so I am not surprised by this result. This is what friendly matches are for, when you can evaluate a player in a real match, and not in training. On the other hand, even with this squad they were able to show a very close game, so despite the defeat, I think that Guardiola can assess this result as satisfactory, except that there are complaints about the defensive players.

Only training will not make you know the weakness in your team, this is why after training the players and coach comes to the field to exercise what they have learnt to see how the coach can work on improving the game tactics due to some laxity in the players. This is why you see that most coaches always give their young players the opportunity to play in friendly matches so that they can evaluate their performance.

I don't think that it is important for any coach to win their friendly matches, if not moat coaches will not take the match unserious. Every coach is looking up on how they can win their real matches and friendly matches is not their concern, because they use them for experiments.

[Weawant]

My eyes can't see this wrong, right? It's not a matter of a draw in normal time but everything has to be decided by a penalty shootout in the pre-season match between Arsenal and Bournemouth and this really invites laughter.

It is not surprising that pre-season matches will always be boring and there will be no excitement even though the favorite team is the favorite and like other top EPL teams, Arsenal also find it quite difficult to win. Bournemouth, who will still participate in the EPL next season, is taking this opportunity to find out how to stop Arsenal when they face each other in an official match later. Well, in the end Arsenal won very narrowly on penalties and at least they had to immediately improve their game.

This game was a probably warming up in anticipation to what should be expected in the nearest future when he league eventually begins. Bournemouth actually did performed so well because I didn't expect that would be this firm against Arsenal, I was expecting even if it was a pre season game, Arsenal would express some kind of superiority that will be such that others are possibly going to probably learn from seeing that Arsenal will be looking very ready for the new season but then with Bournemouth they even made me want to have some good anticipation with their performance in the season, I'm very much aware that things can actually turn out very different from what happened at pre season but i expected better from Arsenal.

[Mr.right85]

Enzo Fernandez after winning the Copa America with his national team Argentina posted a video on his social media account which appeared to be racist chants that targeted France national team players, the video drew criticisms from many especially from France internationals and some even had to unfollow him on social media. However, he has publicly apologized since fbe incident happened and today, Chelsea manager Enzo Maresca as well as the captain Reece James in their interview has disclosed that Enzo Fernandez will be accepted back to the team when he rejoins with the squad after his summer holiday. It's a good news for Chelsea fans if you ask me but Fernandez who have been forgiven by all must be careful of his actions going forward so that  people don't see him as a racist

A lot of things do not surprise me anyone. I still remember people who defended the former president of the Spanish football federation after he had the controversy over kissing one of the players in the Spanish national team after they won the Women's World Cup.

Likewise I see people trying to defend the song. Then again Enzo is not the first player to have made some kind of racial slur. Luis Suárez, John Terry have had some racial issues in the past and they survived it with their career intact. Enzo Fernandez has made a public apology and I think with the right PR, his career may be able to survive this.

Honestly we don't even know the dynamics of these things and the impact on the people being abused.
You can't analyze polarizing issues like this from the outside looking in and provide a one size fits all "solution" of workplace normalcy.
Enzo has apologized which is the first part of the process and I think Chelsea themselves have conducted an internal investigation. If he was found guilty in anyway, he would and should be punished according to their laid down rules at the club.

An apology cannot buy dressing room harmony. Because how are you expecting the players to go and have dressing room love and harmony with a fellow teammate making fun of their heritage?
It’s always funny when racist people get carried away and exhibit their racism in public and then apologize & try to make us believe that “the words and actions do not reflect their personal beliefs or character.

[len01]

Shocked after seeing this picture and I wonder why Arsenal and Arteta let Emile Smith Rowe leave the team. But after understanding and finding out all these reasons, I became more positive thinking.



There are several reasons, but what is certain is that Arsenal is in the stage of building a team to be better and on the one hand, Arsenal also needs income to cover previous losses. Meanwhile, Emile Smith Rowe has had a career with Arsenal for several seasons and has not made a big contribution and his performance has even declined. So there is no other choice. Arsenal have to sell Emile Smith Rowe for €41 million and it looks like Fulham wants to get this player.

[lizarder]

Coaches can always make confident sentences. Ten Hag seems to want to make an opinion to Man United supporters, he is the right choice for Man United. Of course, with the achievement statistics I get, I think Arteta is a little better at the moment. Although this season Man United got 1 FA Cup. But in the current game conditions, Arsenal is better than Man United. But indeed, in the end, the cup is indeed the main goal of the team.

Arteta managed to build Arsenal for two seasons to be stronger and he was also able to utilize all the potential in his players. Erik Ten Hak is not much better than him because we can see how Man United had difficulty keeping up with any team last season. So in terms of winning chances I think Arteta is much better even though Erik Ten Hak was lucky enough to be able to present the FA title last season for Man United.

But the success of the club is not seen from how far the team plays well and can always give their best. Because the benchmark for the club's success will be seen from how far the coach is able to present trophies every season. Arteta must try to prove that and next season they must be able to chase the Premier League trophy because previously they always failed even though they played more consistently.

[Marykeller]

Without clearing names like Harry Maguire, Scott MC Tominay, Victor Lindelof, Aaron Wan Bisakka, Antony, Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho and Casemiro sitting on the bench, Manchester United are obviously going nowhere.

Erik Ten Hag knows this and same goes with the board and management.

I do have the same belief as you. If Manchester United is not ready to sell off the set of players you mentioned, Manchester United is not going anywhere close to the top-the-table league(Premier League) this upcoming season.
It's not about launching a new away kit is the problem, is to win the PL trophy because that's where everyone's focus is, to see Manchester United lifting the PL trophy. One way they can do that is to reshuffle the team players. Many players have stayed overdue in the team, and their impact on the team is no longer felt. They need to be let go, not to be holding them down because they are England by origin

[ajiz138]

Likewise I see people trying to defend the song. Then again Enzo is not the first player to have made some kind of racial slur. Luis Suárez, John Terry have had some racial issues in the past and they survived it with their career intact. Enzo Fernandez has made a public apology and I think with the right PR, his career may be able to survive this.

Racism will not disappear this often happens in modern football so with an apology alone is actually enough as long as it is not repeated again, but honestly with popular players throwing racism is actually unethical, it's just that players do things that are sponton or on purpose but this case is still being investigated because the French federation is taking legal action.
As long as this kind of thing does not make Chelsea's game decline because of one of the players, Enzo Fernandez.

[slapper]

The Manchester City coach is a person who is quite observant in seeing the condition of the team he coaches so that he will not even be so worried about the defeat because it can also be used as a lesson to make more meaningful improvements for the team before the new season starts. However, friendly matches must also be considered important by each team because from these matches each coach can see which lines still have weaknesses so that they can all act immediately to improve the things that are still weak now.

Before drawing conclusions about this match, look at the lineups that these teams played. In this match, Guardiola wanted to see what the young players were capable of, so I am not surprised by this result. This is what friendly matches are for, when you can evaluate a player in a real match, and not in training. On the other hand, even with this squad they were able to show a very close game, so despite the defeat, I think that Guardiola can assess this result as satisfactory, except that there are complaints about the defensive players.

Alright, you have to see Pep here using the long game. This is about raising the next generation of City stars, not about winning some friendly in Japan. That's Guardiola saying: "Let's see what you got, kid." You toss young guns like Lewis and Bobb. He produces champions this way, guy. Indeed, the defense is not perfect but nonetheless. Well, that is life, then? You learn from your mistakes, grow stronger back-off. These young men would find the ideal environment here to sort it out. And who knows, perhaps they shine the hell out of Pep and land a major league contract. For City going forward, this could completely alter the game

[arimamib]

Indeed, since the beginning of Ten Hag's arrival as Manchester United coach, he has been too self-confident and very, very excessive. After 2 seasons, we see that there has been no progress in this team, which has increased sharply since it was built by Ten Hag. In fact, there has been no progress when compared to Arsenal, which was built by Arteta.
What Ten Hag said was without basic evidence, he only said it to increase his self-confidence, actually there was nothing wrong with that, but many people didn't like his attitude like that.

I think next season will be the last season for Ten Hag if he doesn't succeed in lifting Manchester United's performance, next season will be the last chance for him.
I don't know what will happen, but I'm a little pessimistic about it.

What combination of garbage is this please? You don't want him to be confident or what are you saying? Are you such a weak man in reality?
What is your definition of progress? Take a look back two seasons before Erik Ten Hag came and two seasons after he came in as manager, are the changes not obviously seen? What pure nonsense are you saying? You're not a football fan, has no good knowledge of football, just here to paraphrase and complete post count. Manchester United nor Erik Ten Hag is in a direct competition with Arsenal.

What you have written is purely shit without knowledge, I hate it when you all slander the manager this way. Why not watch football with bias? He has always been a manager with confidence,  it's okay for people not to like your attitude, you'll never grow as a man until you begin to accept things that way. He cannot please the bloody crowd.

You don't know nothing about Manchester United to make such predictions. Your views are for you all along. Without clearing names like Harry Maguire, Scott MC Tominay, Victor Lindelof, Aaron Wan Bisakka, Antony, Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho and Casemiro sitting on the bench, Manchester United are obviously going nowhere.

Erik Ten Hag knows this and same goes with the board and management.

You are right, every step taken by Erik Ten Hag is certainly good in the development he has made in the last two seasons. We know that sometimes fans only judge him in terms of what he knows, but they haven't measured him since the beginning of Erik's career as Manchester United coach.
In my opinion, many things happened last season and that will be an evaluation for management to improve it in the transfer market.
Failure to close the season in the top 4 is indeed a decline in Erik Ten Hag's performance, but we need time to see the progress planned in the long term.
The greater the challenge, the greater the expectations desired by fans and management. For this reason, Erik Ten Hag must make changes to the transfer market as best as possible to recruit quality players.