Eredivisie 23/24 - discussion thread

[blue Snow]

~ and PSV is going to face Excelsior which is also at top with perfect start of this new season an interesting thing happen we have only seven winners from first two rounds 11 teams still waiting for their first win of this season.

Excelsior is very surprised me. they are a promotion team but begin with a good starting. I probably won't be surprised if they will make PSV trouble at the next match because when meeting Cambuur and Vitesse, Excelsior is able to create at least 2 different goals even haven't better on ball possession which means they have a counterattack strategy and have a great strategy for make surprised.

[Koal-84]

Ajax has sold key players in their squad. So our assumption was that Ajax might not be able to dominate the Eredivise league this season. But they won the first two matches. And played wonderfully. They scored 9 goals in two matches. Ajax continues to dominate well so far. And their gameplay is quite good. The chances of winning the title are still equal with Ajax and PSV.

It seems as if Ajax has coped well with the departures, in the offense it still looks good, but the defense is still expandable, maybe that will be with the new arrivals. The season is still young but it will probably again be a battle between Ajax and PSV, unfortunately, no other team will be able to fight for the title with the two i think.

[casperBGD]

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The season is still young but it will probably again be a battle between Ajax and PSV, unfortunately, no other team will be able to fight for the title with the two i think.

most seasons is like that, unfortunately, but it is not just in Ere divisie
what I find great, looking at season beginning, is that number of goals will be really high this season, PSV and Ajax are both in great scoring shape, and we can maybe witness Ajax to score more than 100 goals this season, last season they were really close to that number

[CLS63]

PSV and Ajax started the season at a similar level. This shows that nothing changed for any one of these teams. Both of them are keeping their same strength. Ajax are able to do this even though they have lost some very important players. Of course they have brought really talented players after that. It seems that the new players have adapted quite fast. For example Bergwijn's performance in the last match was really impressive.

[ingiltere]

Did you see Sydney van Hooijdonk in Vitesse game? I'm sure many people missed it but he made hat-trick today. He's son of famous retired player Pierre van Hooijdonk. Amin Sarr made assists for all three of goals. These two young boys will probably go to better teams in the future. I like this side of Eredivisie, when you watch games you feel like you are a scout.
Ajax will play with Sparta Rotterdam tomorrow, I'm expecting a comfortable Ajax win. PSV Eindhoven don't have game this week, I don't know why. Supposed reason is to prepare better against Rangers in Champions League qualification game but I don't get the point. We don't see something like that in other leagues. Players need match sharpness in early stage of the season. It's not March or something, nobody is tired yet.

[blue Snow]

Did you see Sydney van Hooijdonk in Vitesse game? I'm sure many people missed it but he made hat-trick today. He's son of famous retired player Pierre van Hooijdonk. Amin Sarr made assists for all three of goals. These two young boys will probably go to better teams in the future. I like this side of Eredivisie, when you watch games you feel like you are a scout.

I like Eredivisie because like you said, the top player around the world average former from Eredivisie club which I believe Sydney van Hooijdonk will be a future player by a top clubs like Madrid, Barca, Liverpool, and Munchen. If I haven't mistake, He is still on Bologna player until 2025, I bit surprised he plays on Eredivies club or maybe as a loan player?.

[mv1986]

Did you see Sydney van Hooijdonk in Vitesse game? I'm sure many people missed it but he made hat-trick today. He's son of famous retired player Pierre van Hooijdonk. Amin Sarr made assists for all three of goals. These two young boys will probably go to better teams in the future. I like this side of Eredivisie, when you watch games you feel like you are a scout.
Ajax will play with Sparta Rotterdam tomorrow, I'm expecting a comfortable Ajax win. PSV Eindhoven don't have game this week, I don't know why. Supposed reason is to prepare better against Rangers in Champions League qualification game but I don't get the point. We don't see something like that in other leagues. Players need match sharpness in early stage of the season. It's not March or something, nobody is tired yet.

The Eredivisie is quite well known for growing young talents, but the final step to a big club is still quite the difference compared to the level that you have to deliver in the Eredivisie. It happens quite often that players from clubs like PSV or Ajax go to the big four or five clubs in Europe, but it turns out that often times they do need a season or two in order to get accustomed to the new challenge. Yes that is still quite normal, but it makes it a bit difficult to tell whether someone really has the talent to become superstar when the player is one of the best in the Eredivisie. It still remains to be seen whether those players can make it into the first squad in clubs like Man City or Real Madrid etc.

What has been impressive recently were the performances Ajax showed as a team on the international stage. It's never easy to play them and by now they don't really get underestimated anymore.

[Koal-84]

most seasons is like that, unfortunately, but it is not just in Ere divisie
what I find great, looking at season beginning, is that number of goals will be really high this season, PSV and Ajax are both in great scoring shape, and we can maybe witness Ajax to score more than 100 goals this season, last season they were really close to that number

100 goals is a lot, I also thought that Ajax would manage that last season, but it just didn't work out, to the last Ajax game.

Ajax won its must-win match against Rotterdam, even if only by a narrow 1-0 margin, which I found a bit strange in the statistics and line-up, why was the left-wing striker Tadic in right midfield, does Ajax currently have problems in this position? PSV has their catch-up game from the 3rd round on 31.8, but I assume that they will win the game against the promoted Volendam.

[vennali]

This chart is about how much an Eredivisie club has spent in this transfer window.

Ajax were able to spend more than other clubs combined since they lost most of their squad for good price(another season, another sale for big clubs to look into Ajax). Net Spend wouldn't be half as significant though. Ajax might also lose another player in Anthony, with Manchester United reportedly increasing their bid to have his services and Anthony keen on joining them.

[Slow death]

This chart is about how much an Eredivisie club has spent in this transfer window.

Ajax were able to spend more than other clubs combined since they lost most of their squad for good price(another season, another sale for big clubs to look into Ajax). Net Spend wouldn't be half as significant though. Ajax might also lose another player in Anthony, with Manchester United reportedly increasing their bid to have his services and Anthony keen on joining them.

one of the biggest problems that many teams currently have is that they sell their best players and cannot buy other best players to fill that vacant place, in the case of ajax I have no doubt that this season they will be champions, but I have doubts that the their performance in the champions league will not be good, anyway they won in their last game. I expected them to score more goals, but in the end the most important thing is that they won

[el kaka22]

I feel like 100 goals was easier to do last year compared to this year. Yes, they still have great players but we should also remember that they sold some of their players as well. Martinez, Haller, Ryan, Onana these were all amazingly important players for them and they all left within span of just one summer.

I do not think that they would be really happy with the current situation if you asked them. This is of course just a guess and I do not know how they will be like this year, maybe they will reach to 100 goals even with this roster but I feel like they are worse compared to last season and even worst team in a few years if you ask me as well.

[blue Snow]

Ajax were able to spend more than other clubs combined since they lost most of their squad for good price(another season, another sale for big clubs to look into Ajax). Net Spend wouldn't be half as significant though. Ajax might also lose another player in Anthony, with Manchester United reportedly increasing their bid to have his services and Anthony keen on joining them.

They have sold a lot of players, Of course, they will be easy to buy for more players. They have a good Agent who can search and replace with a better player, so I don't doubt it. But, adaptation is the most crucial problem with this scheme. Maybe they don't have a problem with Eredivise (9 points is proof) but they will get it in the Champions League like last year.

[posi]

Ajax were able to spend more than other clubs combined since they lost most of their squad for good price(another season, another sale for big clubs to look into Ajax). Net Spend wouldn't be half as significant though. Ajax might also lose another player in Anthony, with Manchester United reportedly increasing their bid to have his services and Anthony keen on joining them.

They have sold a lot of players, Of course, they will be easy to buy for more players. They have a good Agent who can search and replace with a better player, so I don't doubt it. But, adaptation is the most crucial problem with this scheme. Maybe they don't have a problem with Eredivise (9 points is proof) but they will get it in the Champions League like last year.

A number of players have been sold by Ajax. I thought their performance would be weaker this season. But Ajax has performed well in all three matches. Ajax now has enough money. But I don't think Ajax will spend too much money on new players. I think Ajax will look for young talented players. And will recruit them for very little money. After a few years, Ajax will sell these players at high prices. Let's see what steps Ajax take to strengthen their squad.

[monineklutak]

Ajax were able to spend more than other clubs combined since they lost most of their squad for good price(another season, another sale for big clubs to look into Ajax). Net Spend wouldn't be half as significant though. Ajax might also lose another player in Anthony, with Manchester United reportedly increasing their bid to have his services and Anthony keen on joining them.

They have sold a lot of players, Of course, they will be easy to buy for more players. They have a good Agent who can search and replace with a better player, so I don't doubt it. But, adaptation is the most crucial problem with this scheme. Maybe they don't have a problem with Eredivise (9 points is proof) but they will get it in the Champions League like last year.

in Eredvise Ajax is unbreakable, it's been proven that Ajax has been coached by Eric Ten Hag for 4 years and has always won the title.
of course even though their players always leave in the transfer market, they can still compete,
because they are not an individual, but a team, this is why Ajax is a place for young players to develop

[laurenB7742]

Ajax were able to spend more than other clubs combined since they lost most of their squad for good price(another season, another sale for big clubs to look into Ajax). Net Spend wouldn't be half as significant though. Ajax might also lose another player in Anthony, with Manchester United reportedly increasing their bid to have his services and Anthony keen on joining them.

They have sold a lot of players, Of course, they will be easy to buy for more players. They have a good Agent who can search and replace with a better player, so I don't doubt it. But, adaptation is the most crucial problem with this scheme. Maybe they don't have a problem with Eredivise (9 points is proof) but they will get it in the Champions League like last year.

in Eredvise Ajax is unbreakable, it's been proven that Ajax has been coached by Eric Ten Hag for 4 years and has always won the title.
of course even though their players always leave in the transfer market, they can still compete,
because they are not an individual, but a team, this is why Ajax is a place for young players to develop

The bond between Ajax team players is very good. They are able to play well as a team. I would say their main strength is that they don't base their match strategy on any particular player. And this is the reason why their performance has not deteriorated even after selling some of their key players this season. Maybe their performance in the Champions League will be a little weak. But Ajax is still favorites to win the Eredivisie league title.

[wiss19]

A number of players have been sold by Ajax. I thought their performance would be weaker this season. But Ajax has performed well in all three matches. Ajax now has enough money. But I don't think Ajax will spend too much money on new players. I think Ajax will look for young talented players. And will recruit them for very little money. After a few years, Ajax will sell these players at high prices. Let's see what steps Ajax take to strengthen their squad.

I am not agreed with you about their performance because they are selling their best players and their agent is already in working, and they are going to buy few players before end of this transfer window, and they already have few players those are capable of giving them good result because Ajax is one of the best club in the Netherlands, and they have enough sources like Bayern Munich in Germany for having their strong hold on this league and title race.

Even they are not ruling like Germans because they have few tough opponents in this league which are surely challenger for them like PSV and Feyenoord both are also having good quality and skilled players but still Ajax is going to be at top with their finances and all other sources which are giving them best edge from other clubs in this country.

[blue Snow]

Even they are not ruling like Germans because they have few tough opponents in this league which are surely challenger for them like PSV and Feyenoord both are also having good quality and skilled players but still Ajax is going to be at top with their finances and all other sources which are giving them best edge from other clubs in this country.

Ajax is very dominant but when we look at last year the difference point is not much (2 points) from 2nd rank PSV. this means, the opponent is fighting hard and not just giving away the winning, and Of course, the financial is a very important thing, that the dominance of champions is the biggest factor Ajax always keeps hold it until 2021, and 4x time champion in a row is great

[Koal-84]

This chart is about how much an Eredivisie club has spent in this transfer window.

Ajax were able to spend more than other clubs combined since they lost most of their squad for good price(another season, another sale for big clubs to look into Ajax). Net Spend wouldn't be half as significant though. Ajax might also lose another player in Anthony, with Manchester United reportedly increasing their bid to have his services and Anthony keen on joining them.

Ajax has been a very good training club since they won the Champions League and with the academy they built from it, they buy young talents, tie them down with long contracts and then sell them on very profitably. That's their current line, for the Eredivisie it's usually 90% enough to win the title.

After the departures in central defence, Ajax has bought another TOP talent for 9.5 million euros, Ahmetcan Kaplan from Trabzonspor.

https://www.transfermarkt.at/ahmetcan-kaplan/profil/spieler/662131

[SirLancelot]

Ajax has been a very good training club since they won the Champions League and with the academy they built from it, they buy young talents, tie them down with long contracts and then sell them on very profitably. That's their current line, for the Eredivisie it's usually 90% enough to win the title.

After the departures in central defence, Ajax has bought another TOP talent for 9.5 million euros, Ahmetcan Kaplan from Trabzonspor.

https://www.transfermarkt.at/ahmetcan-kaplan/profil/spieler/662131

No doubt Ajax is dominating club in the Netherlands, and they have all sources for this with they already won Champions League and still have very good squad even in this season they sell their few best players for big amount but as their agents most of the time are busy around for having young talented players this is good business for many clubs in Europe just buy youngsters and give them some training after this sell them for higher prices.

But, now their opponents in local league are also doing their best as we can watch PSV and Feyenoord are also had quality players and staying at top with Ajax for title race with these teams we can expect some challenge from Twente and AZ Alkmaar as they are also going regularly in UEFA and can do some develop their teams which could be better for Dutch league as well because this will surely increase quality which could be brought more investment for better results.

[Distraction]

Turkish teams have big difficulties in convincing their young talents to stay and play in the Turkish Super League and the Ahmetcan Kaplan transfer was a very good example for that.

We all know how much teams like Ajax love to search and find this kind of talents to fill the team with them. Of course they have a great academy also as some of you said. But they like to do research like e.g. Dortmund do also. These teams are characteristically the same actually. The difference between them is Ajax are becoming the champions of their league while Dortmund are in Bayern Munich's shadow in the Bundesliga. But I know that the priority of these teams is to help the young talents reach their potential rather than building a team that can become the champions every season.