Eredivisie 23/24 - discussion thread

[Volgastallion]

Well seems like my comments are not aging so well, when i want to change my point of view about Ajax, they draw the last game, and i dont have in my mind the last or ten years start of Ajax, but its this start in Eredivisie one of the worst for them?

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[Slow death]

Well seems like my comments are not aging so well, when i want to change my point of view about Ajax, they draw the last game, and i dont have in my mind the last or ten years start of Ajax, but its this start in Eredivisie one of the worst for them?

I don't know when was the last time Ajax started the season very badly, but I must say that this season has been a clumsy start for them and the next game will be more complicated for Ajax who will have to play against Twente which is different Ajax had a bad start to the season, Twente had a good start to the season with 3 consecutive victories and 9 goals scored against only 2 goals conceded, I see that in this game Ajax could also lose points, that's because 4 days after this game against twente ajax will play against olympique for the european league game, as ajax did not win the Eredivisie last season

and this season is having a disastrous start, I believe that the coach can choose to spare players in the game against twente, so that they can at least get a draw and focus on the game against olympique, because they have good results in the european competitions in addition to If they get money, they will also be able to please the fans and as we are still at the beginning of the season there will still be time for Ajax to recover in the Eredivisie


The two big teams that are at the top, I'm talking about Feyenoord and PSV, will have easy games in the league, but the problem is that a few days later there will be games in the European Champions League, I'm wondering if the coaches will choose not to put their best players on the field in the next league game or will save players for the European champions league games, I prefer not to make multibet bets when I see that there are champions league games nearby, this is because coaches save players looking for the European champions league games.

[casperBGD]

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The two big teams that are at the top, I'm talking about Feyenoord and PSV, will have easy games in the league, but the problem is that a few days later there will be games in the European Champions League, I'm wondering if the coaches will choose not to put their best players on the field in the next league game or will save players for the European champions league games

it does seem logical to have best player rest before important matches, but these first matches in CL, and except if Feyenoord and PSV do prefer CL over Ere, I don't expect to see much players rested before first round
maybe later during the season this could be an issue, but at this point, player should be good enough to play two times a week

with all said, how do you estimate their chances in CL groups, will any of them pass group?

[cytpoway121]

Well seems like my comments are not aging so well, when i want to change my point of view about Ajax, they draw the last game, and i dont have in my mind the last or ten years start of Ajax, but its this start in Eredivisie one of the worst for them?

Its been a quiet start to the Eredivisie league this season maybe because of the long list of player sales that happened to the league, so far Ajax fell off is bad as they are struggling only with 3 games in and only PSV, ALKMAAR & Twente with excellent records this season. Do you think Ajax can bounce back from the talent drain to challenge for the Eredivisie  title ?

I think this is PSV or Twente chance to go for the title; can they ?

[Koal-84]

Its been a quiet start to the Eredivisie league this season maybe because of the long list of player sales that happened to the league, so far Ajax fell off is bad as they are struggling only with 3 games in and only PSV, ALKMAAR & Twente with excellent records this season. Do you think Ajax can bounce back from the talent drain to challenge for the Eredivisie  title ?

I think this is PSV or Twente chance to go for the title; can they ?

It will be difficult for Ajax to keep up, they had a lot of departures, but Ajax should never be underestimated. Ajax already have a tough game with Twente this weekend, so if they lose that one too, it will be a lot of points.

This year, the favourites for the title are definitely Feyenoord and PSV, but AZ is also doing well this season, can they keep up this level?

[Volgastallion]

FINALLY we are back to clubs games, i really dont like at all the national teams break, i only enjoy them when its related to a tournament like World Cup or Eurocup, but friendlies and qualifiers are not of my taste.

So Ajax its gonna comeback after this break? Or they are gonna still strugling?

[shogun47]

FINALLY we are back to clubs games, i really dont like at all the national teams break, i only enjoy them when its related to a tournament like World Cup or Eurocup, but friendlies and qualifiers are not of my taste.

So Ajax its gonna comeback after this break? Or they are gonna still strugling?

You expressed exactly what I am feeling as well. The big tournaments are amazing and fun to watch, but when these breaks happen it is mostly about whether or not all important players come back from that journey being fully healthy. It is the worst when good players get injured in some unimportant game.

Eredivisie is seeing some change at the moment with Ajax having some serious problems. And Twente could tremendously aggravate those problems for Ajax if they beat them in the next game. They would be 7 points behind Twente already, not to mention where AZ, PSV and Feyenoord will be at then. Of course it's still too early to draw conclusions here, but I think in the Eredivisie fallilng behind very far in the beginning sometimes means more than when it happens in other leagues.

[borovichok]

FINALLY we are back to clubs games, i really dont like at all the national teams break, i only enjoy them when its related to a tournament like World Cup or Eurocup, but friendlies and qualifiers are not of my taste.

So Ajax its gonna comeback after this break? Or they are gonna still strugling?

Eredivisie is back and this time, more coming actions this weekend to be executed in league games. International break is over, time to concentrate on the big games at hand. I'm just fully hoping that Ajax bounced back to league streak winnings, we have more games to look out for this season, but I'm always rendering my supports for Ajax, the team keeps struggling but they will definitely surpassed their challenges, because they stood tall over other clubs, de Godenzonen boss, Maurice Steijn rearranging his style and executing brilliant tactics in forthcoming games.

[Koal-84]

So Ajax its gonna comeback after this break? Or they are gonna still strugling?

Ajax is not really in form, has little self-confidence and is not well-rehearsed. Twente, on the other hand, started the season well, won the last three games and therefore also has self-confidence. But if Ajax only manage a draw or even lose this game, it will be a very difficult season for Ajax and the coach will probably be replaced soon.

[Volgastallion]

So Ajax its gonna comeback after this break? Or they are gonna still strugling?

Ajax is not really in form, has little self-confidence and is not well-rehearsed. Twente, on the other hand, started the season well, won the last three games and therefore also has self-confidence. But if Ajax only manage a draw or even lose this game, it will be a very difficult season for Ajax and the coach will probably be replaced soon.

Yes, im in the same line as you. Self confidence is key in every aspect of life and more in sports, a player with confidence can have a very good strike and make him worth millions, but without confidence are nothing, and this its what its happening right now on Ajax team, they have very good players but they seem really unhappy or unmotivated.

[casperBGD]

interesting enough, no match in Ere on Friday as usual, probably due to International break

weekend will be good, Feyenoord and PSV playing easy home matches, Feyenoord will have a bit more to play against Heerenveen, but should win, PSV should have no trouble to win over Nijmegen

Ajax plays Twente, away match, and odds @2.6 for Ajax to win suggest that this could be a difficult season for them, but if one thinks they are better than that, it is a good moment to pick some bets on good odds

[execijutiere]

After drawing in the first 2 weeks, Feyenoord managed to move back to the top by winning 3 weeks in a row.With this win, they moved to 2nd place with 11 points.It is worth mentioning that they have more matches.We see that they have always scored plenty of goals in the last 3 matches they have won.The 2 matches played at home ended 6-1, while the match won away ended with a 5-1 victory. We should not underestimate their opponents because the opponents they beat are the mid-level teams in this league.In the last 3 matches, they scored 17 goals and conceded 3 goals in total.They put forward a good statistic.Of course, we can easily say that they are one of the biggest candidates for the championship this year.They will face Ajax next week and we can think that this match will be a decisive match for them.

[Koal-84]

Feyenoord, PSV and also AZ have and AZ will win their game, also Twente won sovereign against Ajax, the bad season continues at Ajax, think the coach will no longer sit on the bench until winter, Ajax almost have to act before they lose the connection completely. Twente are also very confident so far and it looks like it's going to be a four-way fight without Ajax at the moment.

[casperBGD]

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Twente won sovereign against Ajax

it was a great game by Twente, and they won over Ajax 3:1
didn't expected that, but this could be a really harsh season for Ajax, judging on their results and play so far, 4 matches, 5 points, sitting on position 12 is all but usual for Ajax

PSV and Feyenoord look good

[LTU_btc]

Feyenoord, PSV and also AZ have and AZ will win their game, also Twente won sovereign against Ajax, the bad season continues at Ajax, think the coach will no longer sit on the bench until winter, Ajax almost have to act before they lose the connection completely. Twente are also very confident so far and it looks like it's going to be a four-way fight without Ajax at the moment.

I was a bit sceptical reading comments few weeks ago that Ajax isn't title contender this season, but after watching their game with Twente, it's difficult to believe in them. Now they doesn't looks like a team which have something to fight for title. It's just 4 rounds, but all their main rivals is looking strong and they're already far away. Chair of Ajax coach is getting hot and I'm not sure how much time he will get, though, he isn't main problem.

[Slow death]

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The two big teams that are at the top, I'm talking about Feyenoord and PSV, will have easy games in the league, but the problem is that a few days later there will be games in the European Champions League, I'm wondering if the coaches will choose not to put their best players on the field in the next league game or will save players for the European champions league games

it does seem logical to have best player rest before important matches, but these first matches in CL, and except if Feyenoord and PSV do prefer CL over Ere, I don't expect to see much players rested before first round
maybe later during the season this could be an issue, but at this point, player should be good enough to play two times a week

with all said, how do you estimate their chances in CL groups, will any of them pass group?

In my opinion, PSV has a good chance of moving on to another stage in the Champions League, I say this because Sevilla, despite being a team in a big league like La Liga and last season having won the European League, in this season Sevilla is not doing well, yesterday they won in their first game, they had already come from 3 consecutive defeats when they played against opponents that are not strong, and even yesterday they only managed to score just 1 goal when playing against one of the weakest opponents in the league who in 5 games he did not win in any and only scored 1 goal in 5 games, he was an extremely easy opponent for Sevilla

Lens is another team that is also not doing well in Ligue1, despite Ligue1 being a better league than the Eredivisie in terms of money spent and attraction, but even so, Lens in 4 games did not win in any game, only managing to score 2 goals. we could say that they played against two strong teams like PSG and Monaco so they lost points, but PSG is weak and in this last game they played against Metz which is not a strong team but they defeated Lens, that's why I see PSV having chances of being able to beat Sevilla and Lens and may be able to draw against Arsenal


well, the numbers don't lie, twente scored 3 goals and ajax only scored 1 goal and lost the game. Before this season started I said that Ajax would be a disaster, that's because I didn't see any big signings, but they made big sales of players, so without a great squad they wouldn't perform well, for this season I see PSV and Feyenoord once again competing to become champions, Feyenoord won convincingly in their game against Heerenveem, Feyenoord managed to score 6 goals and only conceded 1 goal. while PSV scored 4 goals and did not concede a goal in their game against NEC. I don't see Ajax achieving good results this season if they don't make big changes

[Koal-84]

I was a bit sceptical reading comments few weeks ago that Ajax isn't title contender this season, but after watching their game with Twente, it's difficult to believe in them. Now they doesn't looks like a team which have something to fight for title. It's just 4 rounds, but all their main rivals is looking strong and they're already far away. Chair of Ajax coach is getting hot and I'm not sure how much time he will get, though, he isn't main problem.

So Ajax with this budget and possibilities in the Netherlands must always be a title contender, but you mention it, if there is not a quick improvement at Ajax, the coach will no longer be sitting in the chair at the end of October, I think the responsible people at Ajax will already be looking for a suitable candidate.

[Volgastallion]

I was a bit sceptical reading comments few weeks ago that Ajax isn't title contender this season, but after watching their game with Twente, it's difficult to believe in them. Now they doesn't looks like a team which have something to fight for title. It's just 4 rounds, but all their main rivals is looking strong and they're already far away. Chair of Ajax coach is getting hot and I'm not sure how much time he will get, though, he isn't main problem.

So Ajax with this budget and possibilities in the Netherlands must always be a title contender, but you mention it, if there is not a quick improvement at Ajax, the coach will no longer be sitting in the chair at the end of October, I think the responsible people at Ajax will already be looking for a suitable candidate.

I was one of the guys who said that, and man, i still think that, but i cant understand why they are playing so bad, its a non sense, when you see the players they have they have a very good squad, i dont know what its happening, but its not looking good.

They need to wake up NOW.

[Koal-84]

They need to wake up NOW.

In any case, Ajax now has a great need for action, but coach Maurice Steijn has only been in office for a short time, so he still has to improve a lot, otherwise he will soon no longer be a coach at Ajax Amsterdam.

In the previous season, Ajax had many departures and almost no additions, and that's when the dilemma started, when they saved up to the last, but probably the biggest mistake was to let Erik ten Hag go, but against Manchester United it's hard to keep the coach.

[Godday]

They need to wake up NOW.

In any case, Ajax now has a great need for action, but coach Maurice Steijn has only been in office for a short time, so he still has to improve a lot, otherwise he will soon no longer be a coach at Ajax Amsterdam.

In the previous season, Ajax had many departures and almost no additions, and that's when the dilemma started, when they saved up to the last, but probably the biggest mistake was to let Erik ten Hag go, but against Manchester United it's hard to keep the coach.

Looking at Ajax's performance in the first four matches of this season, I don't think Ajax will challenge for the title this year. So I think they created quite good chemistry between the coach and the game tactics. I hope Ajax can at least qualify for the Champions League next season but it seems UEFA is the most realistic. This is a tough job for Maurice Steijn because currently he has to rebuild the Ajax squad. So giving a little time to the coach is a good option I think.