Eredivisie 23/24 - discussion thread

[LTU_btc]

I think after this international break we can start to see a recovery from Ajax, they have time to train and to cool down a little bit the head and the organization. The BIG problem can come if they dont win this weekend because this can make much more deep crisis.

I don't see how something can significantly improve in Ajax after international break. They squad issame and it doesn't looks promising, manager also same. Yeah, they can start winning some games and get away from relegation zone, but they can't fight for something serious this season. I wouldn't bet on Ajax this round, mainly because Utrecht isn't that team which supposed to be in the bottom of table, after all, last season they were fighting for spot in UEFA cups.

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[Weawant]

Ajax are the worst this season as far as I'm concerned. Last season they only suffered 5 defeats at the end of the season but now they have even suffered 3 defeats before even reaching the halfway point of the season. I'm not even sure about talking about the European league for Ajax. I haven't watched the Eredivise for a long time and I was very surprised by Ajax's performance this season. Ajax must win the game against the last team in the standings to get them back on a positive track.

Ajax's performance this season is so disheartening that I wonder what exactly is the problem with them, they are even relegation prone, in their last five games, the fail to get a win and they even had three losses and two draw unlike them last season where they were celebrated as one of the best teams in the erdivisie, they really got many surprised with this performance of theirs this season.

I'm hoping they don't get relegated by the end of the season, even if they are not good enough this season to win the league title, but if they can finish tops they could be considered a good one for the season, I'm optimistic if they could get a comeback a better form this season.

[temple]

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If Ajax plays a bad season, they have to fear more players willing to leave the club, which makes the situation even worse entailing long term consequences for them.

next match against Utrecht on Sunday, and Ajax is favored by bookies to win it, although their form and being away match
not sure if that is good to take

match looks like derby, with former champions and top table contender, but Utrecht is also having a bad moment, being rock bottom with only three points so far
struggling derby, I would say

I think after this international break we can start to see a recovery from Ajax, they have time to train and to cool down a little bit the head and the organization. The BIG problem can come if they dont win this weekend because this can make much more deep crisis.

In this situation I agree that this break can only help them as there was not slightest of hope for a positive trend to kick in for them. If they can beat Alkmaar, it would give them their hope back and also engender some trust in their own strengths. But after having an easier game against Utrecht where they could continue a small winning streak, it doesn't get any easier for them with playing against Brighton and PSV Eindhoven in the next two games. They really are facing some hard weeks.

[execijutiere]

PSV will be looking to make it nine out of nine today. If we look at the matches that the title contenders will play today, all of them will be looking for a home win against their opponents. I don't expect all three teams to drop points in these matches. It would be a surprise if Az Alkmaar, Feyenoord and PSV lose in their home matches. But since there will be European matches during the week, these teams need to win these matches and prepare for European matches in a more focused way. In fact, we can see these matches as a kind of preparation for European matches. We can already see that these three teams are slowly starting to open the gap in the league.

[temple]

The top teams have all won their games and you have to scroll down all the way to the bottom of the table to find Ajax Amsterdam there. There is still one game left for them to catch up and it would make it look slightly less dramatic if they win it, but doing the math and seeing that Ajax Amsterdam is 22 points behind PSV Eindhoven when about 25% of the season games have been played was unthinkable even in the worst of the worst case scenarios. There is no coming back this season and now it is all about performing damage control. All of the top teams are looking great and are constantly adding points, which really makes it impossible apparently for Ajax Amsterdam to win anything of value this season.

[execijutiere]

PSV defeated their opponent and continue their undefeated run. they couldn't keep both the league and the champions league in the same way. Now they have to prepare for the match against Lens in the Champions League. They should at least not lose to the away toys for this match, but we can say that Lens is strong enough to win this match.
Az Alkmaar managed to defeat their opponents by three goals and continued to follow the leader. The hosts, who had a slightly more difficult match on their side, managed to get the three points.

[casperBGD]

not sure if anyone is watching, but Utrecht and Ajax are playing not that good, but really interesting match
Utrecht had 1:0 at half-time, scored one more at the start of second half, and when looked as another Ajax defeat mounting, they scored 3 goals in 10 minutes, to completely overturn match, 2:3
but Utrecht is back again, and just scored for 3:3, if you ask me, more goals will follow
nevertheless, match can go on any side, lose will mean more trouble for Ajax, since Utrecht is currently rock bottom in Ere divisie

[buwaytress]

Oh, oh, oh, Lucky Ajax just couldn't do anything right, could they? Fantastic comeback to get to 3-2, and then the inevitable happened, snatching a draw from the jaws of victory, and then they also kinda lost their heads in the end. And that wholly unnecessary conclusion truly didn't have to happen but are we even surprised anymore? Game suspended, I suspect we'll see even more punishment after this.

Bookies wisened up too so I haven't even found good odds lately against them... will they be value bets next game with a win though? Or should we just call the mortician early?

[casperBGD]

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Game suspended, I suspect we'll see even more punishment after this.

Bookies wisened up too so I haven't even found good odds lately against them... will they be value bets next game with a win though? Or should we just call the mortician early?

and now another goal from Utrecht
what can be said about Ajax this season, was thinking about them as value bets, but they seem to be direct opposite, bookies see them as favorites, even today odds were below @2, but they obviously would not make, maybe a draw, but that is not likely at this position

what a shameful situation for them

[QueenVera]

Oh, oh, oh, Lucky Ajax just couldn't do anything right, could they? Fantastic comeback to get to 3-2, and then the inevitable happened, snatching a draw from the jaws of victory, and then tey also kinda lost their heads in the end. And that wholly unnecessary conclusion truly didn't have to happen but are we even surprised anymore? Game suspended, I suspect we'll see even more punishment after this.

Bookies wisened up too so I haven't even found good odds lately against them... will they be value bets next game with a win though? Or should we just call the mortician early?

Ajax used to be the Champions of the league during Erik Ten Hag's era but since he left the club they've now become a shadow of themselves and are underperforming currently, I believe its because they've also sold most of their important players this summer without suitable replacement, therefore the club needs to restructure their team by recruiting the right manager and players if they want to start doing better again.

 Ajax are currently in the 16th position and have only got 6 points from 7 games that's a very poor record and they're even losing currently against Utrecht after having a comeback in the 65th minute they carelessly conceded 2 more goals, one at around 71mins and another before the extra mins, the match was binterrupted at the 3rd minutes of the extra time due to crowd distribance but the game is still on though it would soon come to an end, Utrecht are leading with 4-3

[Spack17]

Oh, oh, oh, Lucky Ajax just couldn't do anything right, could they? Fantastic comeback to get to 3-2, and then the inevitable happened, snatching a draw from the jaws of victory, and then they also kinda lost their heads in the end. And that wholly unnecessary conclusion truly didn't have to happen but are we even surprised anymore? Game suspended, I suspect we'll see even more punishment after this.

Bookies wisened up too so I haven't even found good odds lately against them... will they be value bets next game with a win though? Or should we just call the mortician early?

Ajax are in a huge crisis this season and I don't know whether they can find a way out soon. They have been able to collect only 5 points in 7 matches.    This is quite embarrassing statistics for a big team like Ajax. Since the end of the Erik ten Hag era they haven't even been able to maintain the same level.

Today against Utrecht that comeback should have helped Ajax win. I thought they really deserved it after watching that ambition. But they just couldn't do anything about Utrecht's doing the same against them.

Ajax must look for all their options about what they can do for their defense especially. 16 goals conceded so far...

[execijutiere]

Ajax's downward spiral continues. Having lost 4-3 away to Utrecht today, Ajax are crawling in the relegation zone. They need to take radical changes as soon as possible or this season will end badly for them. With 1 win in 7 games, I think Ajax hasn't performed this badly in a long time. Utrecht, on the other hand, managed to increase their points to 6 with this win and overtake their opponent with more than a game to spare. I don't know how they will recover, but if they don't, we might even see Ajax relegated. Losing 4-3 to perhaps the worst team in the league at the moment shows that things are not going well at all.

[Weawant]

Oh, oh, oh, Lucky Ajax just couldn't do anything right, could they? Fantastic comeback to get to 3-2, and then the inevitable happened, snatching a draw from the jaws of victory, and then they also kinda lost their heads in the end. And that wholly unnecessary conclusion truly didn't have to happen but are we even surprised anymore? Game suspended, I suspect we'll see even more punishment after this.

Bookies wisened up too so I haven't even found good odds lately against them... will they be value bets next game with a win though? Or should we just call the mortician early?

Ajax are in a huge crisis this season and I don't know whether they can find a way out soon. They have been able to collect only 5 points in 7 matches.    This is quite embarrassing statistics for a big team like Ajax. Since the end of the Erik ten Hag era they haven't even been able to maintain the same level.

Today against Utrecht that comeback should have helped Ajax win. I thought they really deserved it after watching that ambition. But they just couldn't do anything about Utrecht's doing the same against them.

Ajax must look for all their options about what they can do for their defense especially. 16 goals conceded so far...

I just hope ajax doesn't end up at the relegation this season because they are yet to look like they will get any better anytime soon, their performance has dropped so badly unlike their performance in the past season were they would win Several games in a roll but now they find it difficult at one they literally got all their points struggling to draw .

I'm still hoping by the end of the season thy would be able to avoid relegation and have improved much and hope to get back at their best form by next season because this season it will really be hard for them to get back on track fully, they would need to work on their tactics, make good use of the window by January to replace some players and probably get along with their new coach, but they should be more focused on avoiding relegation at this time

[QueenVera]

Ajax's downward spiral continues. Having lost 4-3 away to Utrecht today, Ajax are crawling in the relegation zone. They need to take radical changes as soon as possible or this season will end badly for them. With 1 win in 7 games, I think Ajax hasn't performed this badly in a long time. Utrecht, on the other hand, managed to increase their points to 6 with this win and overtake their opponent with more than a game to spare. I don't know how they will recover, but if they don't, we might even see Ajax relegated. Losing 4-3 to perhaps the worst team in the league at the moment shows that things are not going well at all.

Too bad they just had their 4th defeat against a team that where at the bottom on the table and now they've allowed Utrecht to be ahead of them in the relegation zone, it's unbelievable to see that one of the biggest team in the Eredivisie league only has 5 points out of 9 matches, their performance is very poor this season and I doubt if they'll be able to finish in the top 10 this season, and if care is not taken they may be relegated it would be to shameful to the board if that happens.

 I don't know whats wrong and why the team is failing to perform better but they need to act fast and work together as a team to start performing better and atleast go out of the relegation zone and finish in a more better position before they start the rebuilding process, I think alot of changes has to be made in the team.

[Volgastallion]

No way man, this have to be a joke, or a nightmare, how Ajax can perform this bad? I dont find any real explanation, now they not only lose, they also receive 4! goals from Utrech, i dont know what is really happening i know mental health is very important , but this is beyond compresion.

[LTU_btc]

Ajax's downward spiral continues. Having lost 4-3 away to Utrecht today, Ajax are crawling in the relegation zone. They need to take radical changes as soon as possible or this season will end badly for them. With 1 win in 7 games, I think Ajax hasn't performed this badly in a long time. Utrecht, on the other hand, managed to increase their points to 6 with this win and overtake their opponent with more than a game to spare. I don't know how they will recover, but if they don't, we might even see Ajax relegated. Losing 4-3 to perhaps the worst team in the league at the moment shows that things are not going well at all.

Damn, Ajax is hitting new bottom with every game they play. And loss against Utrecht probably can't be even called as surprise. Ajax didn't had any advantage today and when you concede 4th goal and lose game on 90th minute, that hurts even more. Next week they have EL game with Brighton and then away vs PSV and there is any good signs for them before these games.
Twente burned my bet. I already thought it will be easy after they got 2:0 lead, but in 2nd half Heracles made a comeback and took 2:2 draw.

[Webetcoins]

Ajax's downward spiral continues. Having lost 4-3 away to Utrecht today, Ajax are crawling in the relegation zone. They need to take radical changes as soon as possible or this season will end badly for them. With 1 win in 7 games, I think Ajax hasn't performed this badly in a long time. Utrecht, on the other hand, managed to increase their points to 6 with this win and overtake their opponent with more than a game to spare. I don't know how they will recover, but if they don't, we might even see Ajax relegated. Losing 4-3 to perhaps the worst team in the league at the moment shows that things are not going well at all.

Damn, Ajax is hitting new bottom with every game they play. And loss against Utrecht probably can't be even called as surprise. Ajax didn't had any advantage today and when you concede 4th goal and lose game on 90th minute, that hurts even more. Next week they have EL game with Brighton and then away vs PSV and there is any good signs for them before these games.
Twente burned my bet. I already thought it will be easy after they got 2:0 lead, but in 2nd half Heracles made a comeback and took 2:2 draw.

Ajax surely having terrible time with now things are going more bad with as mentioned games against Brighton and PSV could be bringing more poor results with they have to stay at bottom for few more weeks and things are surely had not shortcut for them to improve and have positive results which bring them out of this jail in quick time.

Today as they have three quick goals I was expecting good chance, but suddenly we have no goals which kill all positive hopes for this legendary club but still I was able to secure my bet for the over3.5 because I was expecting rain of goals which happen in this match after this I also secure next with Twente over because on road their performance is not good so instead going for ML I try with over which also work and give me good profit in today business.

[execijutiere]

Too bad they just had their 4th defeat against a team that where at the bottom on the table and now they've allowed Utrecht to be ahead of them in the relegation zone, it's unbelievable to see that one of the biggest team in the Eredivisie league only has 5 points out of 9 matches, their performance is very poor this season and I doubt if they'll be able to finish in the top 10 this season, and if care is not taken they may be relegated it would be to shameful to the board if that happens.

I don't know whats wrong and why the team is failing to perform better but they need to act fast and work together as a team to start performing better and atleast go out of the relegation zone and finish in a more better position before they start the rebuilding process, I think alot of changes has to be made in the team.

This is the first time in a long time that Ajax are so far away from the title race.They need to find the reason for this as soon as possible or things will get worse for them. It doesn't make sense for Ajax to suffer their 4th defeat while their rivals continue undefeated.In the Utrecht match, I expected them to win, but we saw that they didn't play very well in the match.As you said as a team, it seems difficult for them to be among the top 10 teams at this rate.The management should take tough decisions and maybe call everyone in the team to a meeting and ask what is going on.

Damn, Ajax is hitting new bottom with every game they play. And loss against Utrecht probably can't be even called as surprise. Ajax didn't had any advantage today and when you concede 4th goal and lose game on 90th minute, that hurts even more. Next week they have EL game with Brighton and then away vs PSV and there is any good signs for them before these games.
Twente burned my bet. I already thought it will be easy after they got 2:0 lead, but in 2nd half Heracles made a comeback and took 2:2 draw.

In fact, they managed to turn the match around when they were down 2-0. Although they scored 3 goals in about 13 minutes and went 3-2 ahead, they could not protect the score and lost 4-3. Interestingly, the fact that they could not protect the score in the match in which they were ahead shows that there are big problems.

[jaberwock]

The top teams have all won their games and you have to scroll down all the way to the bottom of the table to find Ajax Amsterdam there. There is still one game left for them to catch up and it would make it look slightly less dramatic if they win it, but doing the math and seeing that Ajax Amsterdam is 22 points behind PSV Eindhoven when about 25% of the season games have been played was unthinkable even in the worst of the worst case scenarios. There is no coming back this season and now it is all about performing damage control. All of the top teams are looking great and are constantly adding points, which really makes it impossible apparently for Ajax Amsterdam to win anything of value this season.

Top three teams are without any defeat in their first 9 games which is impressive and most chances as they are widening gape no other team could be challenge them for the these spots Twente losing his ground but still having some chance for the staying at this spot but right now miserable Ajax is talk of the soccer community as after playing seven games they are at the bottom of Eredivisie table just one win and four defeats are clearly indicating how things are going for them in this season.

They still have chance for the jump but this need some improvement and good motivation which will allow them to have better performance and bounce back from this situation in coming weeks they have no easy time but most chances we can expect good chance in November which will bring good chance for them to improve their rank and performance as well.

[temple]

The top teams have all won their games and you have to scroll down all the way to the bottom of the table to find Ajax Amsterdam there. There is still one game left for them to catch up and it would make it look slightly less dramatic if they win it, but doing the math and seeing that Ajax Amsterdam is 22 points behind PSV Eindhoven when about 25% of the season games have been played was unthinkable even in the worst of the worst case scenarios. There is no coming back this season and now it is all about performing damage control. All of the top teams are looking great and are constantly adding points, which really makes it impossible apparently for Ajax Amsterdam to win anything of value this season.

Top three teams are without any defeat in their first 9 games which is impressive and most chances as they are widening gape no other team could be challenge them for the these spots Twente losing his ground but still having some chance for the staying at this spot but right now miserable Ajax is talk of the soccer community as after playing seven games they are at the bottom of Eredivisie table just one win and four defeats are clearly indicating how things are going for them in this season.

They still have chance for the jump but this need some improvement and good motivation which will allow them to have better performance and bounce back from this situation in coming weeks they have no easy time but most chances we can expect good chance in November which will bring good chance for them to improve their rank and performance as well.

Yes but if I was a dreamer with a lot of fantasy, I still can't come up with a dream that has Ajax Amsterdam start a catch-up run and make up for this horrific start of the season. I remember some really wild turn of events when teams were able to find back to their old strength and win like 10 games in a row, but this would still not be enough to be in touch with the top of the table again. Ajax Amsterdam has 2 games in reserve and if they win them both, they are at 11 points and PSV is at 27 points. If Ajax were to win 10 games in a a row, PSV would have to lose 5 of those 10 games and have one draw and then they would be equal in points, but that's not going to happen as all three PSV, AZ and Feyenoord are performing like monsters.