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June 12, 2023, 04:32:25 PM
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While the first match ended in a 1-1 draw at home in Rotterdam, in the second match twente defeated their opponent 1-0 at home in the final match of the conference league.If we look at the overall match, we can already say that twente dominated from the beginning to the end.twente was the better side than its opponent in terms of ball possession and goal scoring positions. the only goal in the match came early in the second half by joshua brenet.
Their 1-0 triumph in the second leg demonstrated their domination throughout the contest. The main difference between Twente and their rival is their capacity to control the ball and create scoring opportunities. Joshua Brenet first goal of the second half was a critical development that increased their lead. The team entire performance showcases their talent and calculated strategy both in terms of possession and offensive power. I would like to congratulate Twente on their outstanding victory and for demonstrating their skills on the pitch.
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June 12, 2023, 04:51:29 PM
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Since the Erik ten Hag era came to an end for Ajax they haven't been able to play as good as that time. This season was a big mess for them considering how they play normally. They changed two more managers since that date also. First Alfred Schreuder was appointed to the position. He did his job for only 7 months and Johnny Heitinga took over from where he left who is an old Ajax player at the same time.

But none of them has been able to do a good work in general of the time they worked for. I don't know if it is right to sack managers too often. I don't believe so because you should give someone a year at least as long as they don't mess things up too much during his time.

Ajax have lost some really good players previously in a transfer window also though. But I still see the squad really good in fact. They need the right management for them to be competitive for titles again.

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June 12, 2023, 07:25:19 PM
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Since the Erik ten Hag era came to an end for Ajax they haven't been able to play as good as that time. This season was a big mess for them considering how they play normally. They changed two more managers since that date also. First Alfred Schreuder was appointed to the position. He did his job for only 7 months and Johnny Heitinga took over from where he left who is an old Ajax player at the same time.

But none of them has been able to do a good work in general of the time they worked for. I don't know if it is right to sack managers too often. I don't believe so because you should give someone a year at least as long as they don't mess things up too much during his time.

Ajax have lost some really good players previously in a transfer window also though. But I still see the squad really good in fact. They need the right management for them to be competitive for titles again.
even though it has been a long time since parting with ten hag but I see that ajax's performance is not so bad because they managed to finish in 3rd place in the eredivise standings, based on the results in the standings, feyenoord won 25 times while ajax won 20 times, that means there is still a chance for ajax to get a trophy again eredivise next season.

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June 13, 2023, 08:58:49 AM
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While the first match ended in a 1-1 draw at home in Rotterdam, in the second match twente defeated their opponent 1-0 at home in the final match of the conference league.If we look at the overall match, we can already say that twente dominated from the beginning to the end.twente was the better side than its opponent in terms of ball possession and goal scoring positions. the only goal in the match came early in the second half by joshua brenet.
Their 1-0 triumph in the second leg demonstrated their domination throughout the contest. The main difference between Twente and their rival is their capacity to control the ball and create scoring opportunities. Joshua Brenet first goal of the second half was a critical development that increased their lead. The team entire performance showcases their talent and calculated strategy both in terms of possession and offensive power. I would like to congratulate Twente on their outstanding victory and for demonstrating their skills on the pitch.
I can say that Twente definitely deserved it.They were the team that wanted to win the match and they didn't let up the pressure from the beginning to the end of the match.We can already see this in the statistics of the match.I think even 1 goal scored in the match is too little for a team that had exactly 25 attempts on goal.They could have scored more goals but the luck wasn't with them.At least they don't have to think about that because they won the match.

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June 13, 2023, 09:36:14 AM
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Their 1-0 triumph in the second leg demonstrated their domination throughout the contest. The main difference between Twente and their rival is their capacity to control the ball and create scoring opportunities. Joshua Brenet first goal of the second half was a critical development that increased their lead. The team entire performance showcases their talent and calculated strategy both in terms of possession and offensive power. I would like to congratulate Twente on their outstanding victory and for demonstrating their skills on the pitch.
I can say that Twente definitely deserved it.They were the team that wanted to win the match and they didn't let up the pressure from the beginning to the end of the match.We can already see this in the statistics of the match.I think even 1 goal scored in the match is too little for a team that had exactly 25 attempts on goal.They could have scored more goals but the luck wasn't with them.At least they don't have to think about that because they won the match.
Without a doubt Twente put on a strong effort and their victory was well earned. They had a fierce desire to win which was evident in their unrelenting resolve and constant pressure throughout the game. With 25 efforts on goal the numbers speak for themselves and demonstrate their superior offensive performance. It is bad that they were not able to score on more of those opportunities but teams are not always lucky. The fact that they won the game should continue to be in the forefront of their minds. Their perseverance and hard work paid off and they should be proud of their well earned success. It demonstrates the tenacity and resiliency of their team.
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June 13, 2023, 09:55:18 AM
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Without a doubt Twente put on a strong effort and their victory was well earned. They had a fierce desire to win which was evident in their unrelenting resolve and constant pressure throughout the game. With 25 efforts on goal the numbers speak for themselves and demonstrate their superior offensive performance. It is bad that they were not able to score on more of those opportunities but teams are not always lucky. The fact that they won the game should continue to be in the forefront of their minds. Their perseverance and hard work paid off and they should be proud of their well earned success. It demonstrates the tenacity and resiliency of their team.
I totally agree with you.Twente is one of the teams I like.For some reason I have a special sympathy for them.Usually people like feyenoord,az alkmaar,ajax or psv eindhoven but I like twente more.Maybe if they had the chance to spend more money they could do good things by making good transfers but unfortunately they don't have such a possibility. We saw this season that they finished 5 points behind a team like Ajax.When we compare Ajax and Twente both in terms of squad and money, we can easily say that there is a big difference.I think they did a very good job this year.
I have to say that I have a special sympathy for Feyenoord.

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June 13, 2023, 12:45:05 PM
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Without a doubt Twente put on a strong effort and their victory was well earned. They had a fierce desire to win which was evident in their unrelenting resolve and constant pressure throughout the game. With 25 efforts on goal the numbers speak for themselves and demonstrate their superior offensive performance. It is bad that they were not able to score on more of those opportunities but teams are not always lucky. The fact that they won the game should continue to be in the forefront of their minds. Their perseverance and hard work paid off and they should be proud of their well earned success. It demonstrates the tenacity and resiliency of their team.
The game ruled 1 nil in favor of the best team. A challenging game to watch, the home team prevailed with control on the pitch, 25 attempts on goal, and only one goal in the early minutes of the second half. Their opponents never applied pressure and were content with a possible draw because they were no match for the Tukkers at De Grolsch Veste stadium. Twente won the game, which was a wonderful method to win three valuable points. Sparta Rotterdam's tactic is entirely defensive throughout the game and they were unlucky against Twente.


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June 13, 2023, 01:23:45 PM
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While the first match ended in a 1-1 draw at home in Rotterdam, in the second match twente defeated their opponent 1-0 at home in the final match of the conference league.If we look at the overall match, we can already say that twente dominated from the beginning to the end.twente was the better side than its opponent in terms of ball possession and goal scoring positions. the only goal in the match came early in the second half by joshua brenet.
Their 1-0 triumph in the second leg demonstrated their domination throughout the contest. The main difference between Twente and their rival is their capacity to control the ball and create scoring opportunities. Joshua Brenet first goal of the second half was a critical development that increased their lead. The team entire performance showcases their talent and calculated strategy both in terms of possession and offensive power. I would like to congratulate Twente on their outstanding victory and for demonstrating their skills on the pitch.
I can say that Twente definitely deserved it.They were the team that wanted to win the match and they didn't let up the pressure from the beginning to the end of the match.We can already see this in the statistics of the match.I think even 1 goal scored in the match is too little for a team that had exactly 25 attempts on goal.They could have scored more goals but the luck wasn't with them.At least they don't have to think about that because they won the match.

Twente players played very well. And I was very surprised by their performance. The players of the team have performed well. And they deserve to win this match. The dominance of Twente's players was visible from the start of the match. They had 60% ball possession. Made 25 shots and 9 of them were on target. Even after performing well in away matches, they could not win. But the Twente players did not make any mistakes in the home match. They won the match by dominating.

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June 13, 2023, 05:38:50 PM
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Without a doubt Twente put on a strong effort and their victory was well earned. They had a fierce desire to win which was evident in their unrelenting resolve and constant pressure throughout the game. With 25 efforts on goal the numbers speak for themselves and demonstrate their superior offensive performance. It is bad that they were not able to score on more of those opportunities but teams are not always lucky. The fact that they won the game should continue to be in the forefront of their minds. Their perseverance and hard work paid off and they should be proud of their well earned success. It demonstrates the tenacity and resiliency of their team.
The game ruled 1 nil in favor of the best team. A challenging game to watch, the home team prevailed with control on the pitch, 25 attempts on goal, and only one goal in the early minutes of the second half. Their opponents never applied pressure and were content with a possible draw because they were no match for the Tukkers at De Grolsch Veste stadium. Twente won the game, which was a wonderful method to win three valuable points. Sparta Rotterdam's tactic is entirely defensive throughout the game and they were unlucky against Twente.
Yeah, certainly Twente have done good job throughout the season and having good end with now they are going for the Conference Cup as well, but Sparta was also good in this season and their performance was much better than expectations but sadly at the end Twente have chance for the UEFA event with their superior performance and quality as well.

In early rounds, mostly we are expecting good fight from Twente in league table for the better spot but sadly in middle they lost few matches and have fifth spot behind AZ Alkmaar, but now they are going for the Conference Cup which is good in this last game Twente play aggressively and not allowed opponents for having any chance for the draw or win.

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June 13, 2023, 06:21:59 PM
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Anyone thinks Ajax will be able to bring the ship around in a single summer and make the team win again? I honestly assumed that Ajax won their way for a domination that was close to like PSG and Bayern where they end up winning the title every season, this is a season they lost and looking at their team they do not look like they are better than everyone else, that just doesn't look like the reality.

So, the best thing we could expect them to do would be making great transfers, and that will be a tough situation, because they don't have "that" much money neither, all these youth setups eat a lot of money and they need to spend as little as possible finding players from those spots, it is going to be tough, I think they won't be champions next season just yet, maybe a year after that.

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June 13, 2023, 07:04:17 PM
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Since the Erik ten Hag era came to an end for Ajax they haven't been able to play as good as that time. This season was a big mess for them considering how they play normally. They changed two more managers since that date also. First Alfred Schreuder was appointed to the position. He did his job for only 7 months and Johnny Heitinga took over from where he left who is an old Ajax player at the same time.

But none of them has been able to do a good work in general of the time they worked for. I don't know if it is right to sack managers too often. I don't believe so because you should give someone a year at least as long as they don't mess things up too much during his time.

Ajax have lost some really good players previously in a transfer window also though. But I still see the squad really good in fact. They need the right management for them to be competitive for titles again.

Players are supposed to leave if the team is not doing well and the players are exceeding in terms of success compared to the team. It is very understandable why the players want to leave the team. There are other better offers waiting for them. That success which they had was not produced again. The coach Ten Hag did a very good job with them. No one else was able to replicate that type of success for them.

Obviously, I do not think that the squad is bad. I think they just need the right management, just like you said.



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June 14, 2023, 09:03:20 AM
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Their 1-0 triumph in the second leg demonstrated their domination throughout the contest. The main difference between Twente and their rival is their capacity to control the ball and create scoring opportunities. Joshua Brenet first goal of the second half was a critical development that increased their lead. The team entire performance showcases their talent and calculated strategy both in terms of possession and offensive power. I would like to congratulate Twente on their outstanding victory and for demonstrating their skills on the pitch.
I can say that Twente definitely deserved it.They were the team that wanted to win the match and they didn't let up the pressure from the beginning to the end of the match.We can already see this in the statistics of the match.I think even 1 goal scored in the match is too little for a team that had exactly 25 attempts on goal.They could have scored more goals but the luck wasn't with them.At least they don't have to think about that because they won the match.

Twente players played very well. And I was very surprised by their performance. The players of the team have performed well. And they deserve to win this match. The dominance of Twente's players was visible from the start of the match. They had 60% ball possession. Made 25 shots and 9 of them were on target. Even after performing well in away matches, they could not win. But the Twente players did not make any mistakes in the home match. They won the match by dominating.
It was wonderful to watch the Twente guys play at their peak their performance was genuinely amazing. They thoroughly deserved to win this match since their effort and commitment paid off. They controlled the game with their superb ball possession from the start making their supremacy on the pitch obvious. They took a lot of shots, with a respectable percentage of them hitting their target showcasing their attacking skill. They played with talent and concentration and the fact that they did not make any crucial mistakes in the home game led to a well earned victory.
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June 14, 2023, 09:11:35 AM
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While the first match ended in a 1-1 draw at home in Rotterdam, in the second match twente defeated their opponent 1-0 at home in the final match of the conference league.If we look at the overall match, we can already say that twente dominated from the beginning to the end.twente was the better side than its opponent in terms of ball possession and goal scoring positions. the only goal in the match came early in the second half by joshua brenet.
Their 1-0 triumph in the second leg demonstrated their domination throughout the contest. The main difference between Twente and their rival is their capacity to control the ball and create scoring opportunities. Joshua Brenet first goal of the second half was a critical development that increased their lead. The team entire performance showcases their talent and calculated strategy both in terms of possession and offensive power. I would like to congratulate Twente on their outstanding victory and for demonstrating their skills on the pitch.

Twente were the better side throughout the game and they went into 25 positions throughout the game. They managed to win the game 1-0. After eliminating Heerenven, they managed to reach the result with a superior football against Sparta Rotterdam. Twente was my favorite in these matches as they are one of the strong teams of Eredevisie.

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June 14, 2023, 11:01:13 AM
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ajax amsterdam has presented the successor of John Heitinga, whose contract was not renewed... Maurice Steijn will coach the dethroned champions in the future. the 49-yo, most recently coach of sparta rotterdam, has signed a contract until summer 2026

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June 14, 2023, 08:14:34 PM
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ajax amsterdam has presented the successor of John Heitinga, whose contract was not renewed... Maurice Steijn will coach the dethroned champions in the future. the 49-yo, most recently coach of sparta rotterdam, has signed a contract until summer 2026

IMO, he is far from coach that will make his mark in Ajax
maybe he is good enough for Europa league next season, but doubt that as well, he had a good season with Sparta, but that could be just a chance
prior was in 2nd division with NAC Breda, and before that in Qatar

maybe he will prove me wrong, but I think that Ajax will miss another title next season
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June 14, 2023, 08:20:22 PM
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ajax amsterdam has presented the successor of John Heitinga, whose contract was not renewed... Maurice Steijn will coach the dethroned champions in the future. the 49-yo, most recently coach of sparta rotterdam, has signed a contract until summer 2026
Well, normally I am not sure about him and say that it could be a mistake, but at the same time I have seen them make correct decisions after correct decisions so instead of saying they might be wrong about him, I feel like I could be wrong about him instead let's see how he will do, if he really does well then I will be shocked.

Even bigger deal next season would be finding who would be good as player, because they lack a lot of potential in that club and it feels like their ceiling is low and they will not win anything. I hope that they do as well as they hope they could, but that doesn't mean that they will be actually winning anything unless they get some talented players like they did a few years ago. It's very important to get those great young players.
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June 15, 2023, 10:57:01 PM
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I don't know if changing manager very often is good for any team. I'm saying this for Ajax here for example. After Erik ten Hag we have seen 2 more managers in a really short time period. Heitinga's contract is also coming to an end and he is about to be replaced with a new manager. Because he was just expected to manage the team as good as possible until the end of the season from January.

The new manager Maurice Steijn has only one achievement which is a second tier championship with VVV-Venlo. It is a mystery whether he can bring this team closer to Erik ten Hag's times for now. Ajax aren't like Dortmund as they are used to becoming Eredivisie champions quite often. Therefore I think they should be even more careful with their management decisions.

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June 15, 2023, 11:32:15 PM
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I don't know if changing manager very often is good for any team. I'm saying this for Ajax here for example. After Erik ten Hag we have seen 2 more managers in a really short time period. Heitinga's contract is also coming to an end and he is about to be replaced with a new manager. Because he was just expected to manage the team as good as possible until the end of the season from January.

The new manager Maurice Steijn has only one achievement which is a second tier championship with VVV-Venlo. It is a mystery whether he can bring this team closer to Erik ten Hag's times for now. Ajax aren't like Dortmund as they are used to becoming Eredivisie champions quite often. Therefore I think they should be even more careful with their management decisions.

Yes but i dont have the inside info from netherland press, i think Heitinga was more like a Lampard for Chelsea in this last time, he comes to take the place until the club has the time to hire a new manager for the long run, obviusly like ever if he make a very solid run maybe he can continue but seems like not.

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June 16, 2023, 09:02:17 PM
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it seems to me that ajax is aimless, in recent times they have been doing shocking things, especially in this matter of coach, looking at the Eredivisie, in which in the last season ajax was very weak, even to beat some opponents considered weak was something difficult for them, and feyenoord and PSV and AZ and twente have improved a lot, especially Feyenoord and PSV to the point that ajax is not a match for these two teams, when you saw all the bad performance of ajax last season I expected that there would be big changes in ajax, something like bringing in a great coach

to put ajax competing with PSV and Feyenoord so that ajax could conquer the Eredivisie, but to my surprise ajax was putting another coach without great achievements, I don't know what kind of experiment ajax is trying to do, I don't know if the ajax is going through financial problems, but one thing is clear to me that next season ajax will not win the Eredivisie the way they are, so we will see this coach being fired and another one will take his place and even then it will be too much trouble , at the end of the season ajax will be in 3 or 4 position

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June 17, 2023, 10:12:50 AM
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at the end of the season ajax will be in 3 or 4 position


I doubt this
Ajax is a big team, and 3rd position is as low as it gets for them, cannot imagine them being 4th, or to put it other way, I cannot see who can come above them with PSV and Feyenoord
can't see consecutive title for Feyenoord as well

with all this in mind, and maybe better odds when season starts, due to lack of good moves from their staff, maybe Ajax outright will be a good choice next season, depend on odds
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