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March 19, 2023, 04:55:38 PM
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In the most important match of the season, Ajax lost at home to Feyenoord and perhaps suffered a heavy blow in the title race. Feyenoord, who scored in the first minutes of the match, closed the first half 2-1 down.Feyenoord started the second half fast again. Feyenoord equalized the situation in the early minutes of the second half and scored the last goal in the last minutes and won 3-2.It was very important for their championship to get 3 points from this away game.Defeating such an important rival at home gives you a great advantage in the race. Feyenoord are now six points clear of their rivals.

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March 19, 2023, 05:26:26 PM
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Feyenoord proved their title skin, I didn't believe in them, but they prove me wrong, win over Ajax in Amsterdam should not be wasted, get the title guys

great match, Feyenoord was early up, Ajax overturn match till halftime, but Feyenoord had enough in their legs to overturn match in second half and win the match 2:3
you don't this good match often

congrats to Feyenoord
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March 19, 2023, 07:45:44 PM
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But PSV has also let it down quite a bit. They were able to close the gap with Ajax, but played right at Vitesse just before time. I understand that all teams at the top want to become champions, but that battle seems to be decided in favor of Feyenoord today. Because AZ, the other competitor, is also failing and is currently facing a 2-0 deficit at Twente, which has also definitively dropped out for the title in recent weeks. But coming back to my story, probably the number 2 in the league will also qualify directly for the CL. So you don't have to become champion, becoming 2nd would also be a good achievement because participation in CL automatically means a capital injection for the club. Feyenoord seems to be sure of that after today's victory.

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March 19, 2023, 09:28:58 PM
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In my opinnion this win can be equivalent to win a final for the title, now they are really really close to win the championship.

And plus they win in the Ajax home, i didnt expect this really.

Well done Feyenoord, i hope to see them in UCL next year with a very good reinforce team.

But the final step its..... management of the pressure.... now they know they are the only candidate to win so....
Feyenoord is clearly champions after this big shocking win at home of Ajax because six points lead with just eight matches remaining is good for the leaders, Ajax which was clearly not good from the start of this season now have to be settled for the second spot if they are able to keep some better performance because PSV and AZ Alkmaar both are also looking for the better end of this season and few matches are important for them as well in remaining season.

Champions League is surely dream for the every top European team, so things are surely at his best for the newly champions if they are able to handle this all for next eight weeks and not play overconfident games which bring them down again.

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March 19, 2023, 09:39:57 PM
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Ajax were calling it like the biggest match of the season. But their performance wasn't like that exactly. I mean they were effective in their attacking side with scoring two goals. But they were really bad at defending on one hand which caused them to lose like 3-2. I don't understand how Ajax can lose even home. I know that it was a tough match as they played against the leader Feyenoord. But we are still talking about Ajax which like to dominate the Eredivisie most of the time.

They were even worse in the second half and this just eased things for Feyenoord to make a comeback and even win. Ajax must have wanted to keep an advantage of 2-1. But I don't think this was the right strategy for them. They shouldn't have played less offensive until capturing a relieving score in the match. The Ajax I know would have fought for at least one more goal in this important match.

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March 19, 2023, 09:44:02 PM
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But PSV has also let it down quite a bit. They were able to close the gap with Ajax, but played right at Vitesse just before time. I understand that all teams at the top want to become champions, but that battle seems to be decided in favor of Feyenoord today. Because AZ, the other competitor, is also failing and is currently facing a 2-0 deficit at Twente, which has also definitively dropped out for the title in recent weeks. But coming back to my story, probably the number 2 in the league will also qualify directly for the CL. So you don't have to become champion, becoming 2nd would also be a good achievement because participation in CL automatically means a capital injection for the club. Feyenoord seems to be sure of that after today's victory.
With this draw now hopes are down for the PSV to give any challenge to Ajax for the Champions League qualifications with Feyenoord is also having tag of the champions for this season and Ajax will be at second PSV will be at third AZ Alkmaar is also lost their match with score of 2 - 1 against Twente which is below for them and their hopes to stay into touch with top teams.

Now in remaining season Feyenoord having not tough match against top teams which is surely good for them and their hopes to fight for the Europa Cup against Roma in quarter-final but Ajax, PSV and AZ Alkmaar all are going to face each other which can bring good changes in league table before end of this season and things could be entertaining, but Feyenoord is surely going to have early celebrations for their title.
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March 20, 2023, 12:20:42 AM
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They were even worse in the second half and this just eased things for Feyenoord to make a comeback and even win. Ajax must have wanted to keep an advantage of 2-1. But I don't think this was the right strategy for them. They shouldn't have played less offensive until capturing a relieving score in the match. The Ajax I know would have fought for at least one more goal in this important match.

Ajax was beaten after leading 2-1 in the first half. At the end of the first half, my prediction was that this match would be a draw. But the performance of Feyenoord's players was excellent. In the second half, they became more desperate to score. They attacked a lot in the second half. And they succeeded. They managed to break the strong defense of Ajax. And now they are 6 points ahead of Ajax in the points table. It seems that Feyenoord is the most likely to win the title this year.
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March 20, 2023, 10:23:06 AM
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Feyenoord are in a very advantageous position. They beat Ajax and their rivals dropped points.
Psv drew away to Vitesse. When I looked at Vitesse's form I saw that they have been defeated for 4 weeks. It is quite surprising that they got points from an important rival in the championship race like PSV this week. PSV increased their point difference with feyenoord to 8 with the draw. It must be said that they have lost an important point in the championship race.
I can say the same for Alkmaar. They came back empty handed from Twente away. Twente is a tough opponent and they are right below Alkmaar. But the defeat is a big loss of points for Alkmaar in the championship race.

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congrats to Feyenoord

A perfect round for Feyenoord, even if the game was close, but a big step for Feyenoord to win the title this year. Ajax and PSV will now have a very hard time fighting for the title, it will be very difficult on their own. Feyenoord would have to collapse now.

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March 20, 2023, 07:11:42 PM
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In the most important match of the season, Ajax lost at home to Feyenoord and perhaps suffered a heavy blow in the title race. Feyenoord, who scored in the first minutes of the match, closed the first half 2-1 down.Feyenoord started the second half fast again. Feyenoord equalized the situation in the early minutes of the second half and scored the last goal in the last minutes and won 3-2.It was very important for their championship to get 3 points from this away game.Defeating such an important rival at home gives you a great advantage in the race. Feyenoord are now six points clear of their rivals.

ajax this season is not doing well, with this defeat it is already starting to become very clear that ajax has a great chance of not winning the league, they started very badly, they had many sequences of draws, they could not score goals, then they did badly in the european competitions, honestly it's been a disastrous season for ajax, while for Feyenoord the situation is very good, with less than 10 games left to finish the league, they are 6 points ahead of ajax so all they need to do from here going forward will be able to win the games and it is enough for ajax to lose 3 more games to lose any chance of winning the league

the sad part is that in the Eredivisie not many teams go in the champions league, so they have to fight to stay on top if they want to go in the champions league, and even when they reach the champions league they don't get far, Feyenoord is still in the europe league so if they win the league and manage to beat rome in two legs then they will have a lot of reason to celebrate because it will have been a very productive season for them

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March 20, 2023, 07:19:15 PM
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In the most important match of the season, Ajax lost at home to Feyenoord and perhaps suffered a heavy blow in the title race. Feyenoord, who scored in the first minutes of the match, closed the first half 2-1 down.Feyenoord started the second half fast again. Feyenoord equalized the situation in the early minutes of the second half and scored the last goal in the last minutes and won 3-2.It was very important for their championship to get 3 points from this away game.Defeating such an important rival at home gives you a great advantage in the race. Feyenoord are now six points clear of their rivals.

ajax this season is not doing well, with this defeat it is already starting to become very clear that ajax has a great chance of not winning the league, they started very badly, they had many sequences of draws, they could not score goals, then they did badly in the european competitions, honestly it's been a disastrous season for ajax, while for Feyenoord the situation is very good, with less than 10 games left to finish the league, they are 6 points ahead of ajax so all they need to do from here going forward will be able to win the games and it is enough for ajax to lose 3 more games to lose any chance of winning the league

the sad part is that in the Eredivisie not many teams go in the champions league, so they have to fight to stay on top if they want to go in the champions league, and even when they reach the champions league they don't get far, Feyenoord is still in the europe league so if they win the league and manage to beat rome in two legs then they will have a lot of reason to celebrate because it will have been a very productive season for them
Feyenoord are playing like legends at the moment and they have no problem scoring goals. They are playing well both in Europe and in the league. We saw how they turned the game around against Ajax. It's a bad season for Ajax, it's obvious that they didn't make good transfers. The quality of the squad dropped after they sent some players away. This also affected their success. I can say that their chances of becoming champions have diminished after losing this match. Ajax should start making preparations for next year.

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March 21, 2023, 12:30:05 PM
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Hands up here, I know I wrote off everyone else and said the time to beat Ajax was gone with Schreuder out, but am so glad them Rotterdammers finally put the Amsterdammers to the sword. Pity about Alkmaar too but they were anyway no one's favourite to keep their overperformance.

It's still plenty of points though, and one can only hope Ajax doesn't remember how to chase down a pack.

the sad part is that in the Eredivisie not many teams go in the champions league, so they have to fight to stay on top if they want to go in the champions league, and even when they reach the champions league they don't get far, Feyenoord is still in the europe league so if they win the league and manage to beat rome in two legs then they will have a lot of reason to celebrate because it will have been a very productive season for them

It's not sad, it's just a reflection of the quality of Eredivisie -- if they want more spots, then they have to keep on improving (I want to say Ajax has to also stop being a feeder team to the rest of Europe but they're not changing their policy any time soon).

I already suffered a false dawn with Kuyt's winning team all those years ago so even if they do win this one, I'm not sure they'll go far in Europe (but wouldn't it be nice if they started also as Europa winners?).

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March 21, 2023, 03:42:00 PM
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Feyenoord are playing like legends at the moment and they have no problem scoring goals. They are playing well both in Europe and in the league. We saw how they turned the game around against Ajax. It's a bad season for Ajax, it's obvious that they didn't make good transfers. The quality of the squad dropped after they sent some players away. This also affected their success. I can say that their chances of becoming champions have diminished after losing this match. Ajax should start making preparations for next year.

First of all, Feyenoord are playing better this season than they have in the past, but I think at the end of the season we'll also see that Ajax and PSV haven't kept up their level of the past few seasons, so Ajax and PSV have been weaker and Feyenoord have made the most of that so far. Although I don't want to take anything away from Feyenoord's very good performance.

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March 21, 2023, 09:55:30 PM
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When I look at Feyenoord's remaining matches, I think they don't have a very difficult match. The only opponent that will be difficult is utrecht. Feyenoord will play that match at home. It would not be wrong to expect Feyenoord to be champions this year. When I look at the remaining aon matches, I see them as matches that are unlikely to make mistakes. As such, feyenoord's job is easier than their rivals.

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March 21, 2023, 11:30:56 PM
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Hands up here, I know I wrote off everyone else and said the time to beat Ajax was gone with Schreuder out, but am so glad them Rotterdammers finally put the Amsterdammers to the sword. Pity about Alkmaar too but they were anyway no one's favourite to keep their overperformance.

It's still plenty of points though, and one can only hope Ajax doesn't remember how to chase down a pack.

the sad part is that in the Eredivisie not many teams go in the champions league, so they have to fight to stay on top if they want to go in the champions league, and even when they reach the champions league they don't get far, Feyenoord is still in the europe league so if they win the league and manage to beat rome in two legs then they will have a lot of reason to celebrate because it will have been a very productive season for them

It's not sad, it's just a reflection of the quality of Eredivisie -- if they want more spots, then they have to keep on improving (I want to say Ajax has to also stop being a feeder team to the rest of Europe but they're not changing their policy any time soon).

I already suffered a false dawn with Kuyt's winning team all those years ago so even if they do win this one, I'm not sure they'll go far in Europe (but wouldn't it be nice if they started also as Europa winners?).

This game had quite some match character. What's really rough is that they are also meeting in the KNVB Cup and Feyenoord could destroy the whole season for Ajax Amsterdan within roughly two weeks. The season was going pretty well for them, but it took some turn weeks ago. Also getting kicked out in the Europa League and now it comes down to Feyenoord's performance in the league and in the cup. Overall Feyenoord deserves to be where they are as they haven't lost a game in all competitions for over 20 games and the last one they lost in the domestic league was on September 18th. That's good enough to compete with Ajax.

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March 22, 2023, 03:12:05 AM
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When I look at Feyenoord's remaining matches, I think they don't have a very difficult match. The only opponent that will be difficult is utrecht. Feyenoord will play that match at home. It would not be wrong to expect Feyenoord to be champions this year. When I look at the remaining aon matches, I see them as matches that are unlikely to make mistakes. As such, feyenoord's job is easier than their rivals.
The different points are not too far (6 points) with ajax, and the Feyenoord performance is look good also, they only lost in the KNVB cup, maybe because they aren't too focused and be more concentrated on Europa League and Eredivisie. And, maybe too early to guess them to be champions for this year because still have 8 matches yet. Ajax usually starts up the playing tempo at the end of league like they beat PSV in the previous session. the chance Feyenoord to be champion is still 50:50

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March 22, 2023, 08:37:36 AM
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~snip

I already suffered a false dawn with Kuyt's winning team all those years ago so even if they do win this one, I'm not sure they'll go far in Europe (but wouldn't it be nice if they started also as Europa winners?).

looking at last two season, Feyenoord has success in Europe
last year they reached Conference league final, this season they are still in competition in Europa league in QF, against last year final rival Roma

maybe they can reach CL QF, to keep same score
there is always some underdog in CL QF, this season there are few, playing in same part of the draw, so anything is possible
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March 22, 2023, 04:47:00 PM
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maybe they can reach CL QF, to keep same score
there is always some underdog in CL QF, this season there are few, playing in same part of the draw, so anything is possible

I hope so, in fact, if they do end up in the group stage, I'm going to put an outright down on them. Should be a fantastic 100/1 at least. Just wish somehow they'd get enough prize money to buy really good players (or keep really good ones away from Ajax).

This game had quite some match character. What's really rough is that they are also meeting in the KNVB Cup and Feyenoord could destroy the whole season for Ajax Amsterdan within roughly two weeks. The season was going pretty well for them, but it took some turn weeks ago. Also getting kicked out in the Europa League and now it comes down to Feyenoord's performance in the league and in the cup. Overall Feyenoord deserves to be where they are as they haven't lost a game in all competitions for over 20 games and the last one they lost in the domestic league was on September 18th. That's good enough to compete with Ajax.

Every Rotterdammer prays for this. I live near enough too, and even though it's not really my team I might be tempted to go share some of that anguish/joy. As I said, though, false dawns...

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March 22, 2023, 05:27:37 PM
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When I look at Feyenoord's remaining matches, I think they don't have a very difficult match. The only opponent that will be difficult is utrecht. Feyenoord will play that match at home. It would not be wrong to expect Feyenoord to be champions this year. When I look at the remaining aon matches, I see them as matches that are unlikely to make mistakes. As such, feyenoord's job is easier than their rivals.
The different points are not too far (6 points) with ajax, and the Feyenoord performance is look good also, they only lost in the KNVB cup, maybe because they aren't too focused and be more concentrated on Europa League and Eredivisie. And, maybe too early to guess them to be champions for this year because still have 8 matches yet. Ajax usually starts up the playing tempo at the end of league like they beat PSV in the previous session. the chance Feyenoord to be champion is still 50:50

Feyenoord's points gap with Ajax is only 6. It's not a big gap. Still, I think Feyenoord will win the title. In the last match, they won 3-2 against Ajax. Moreover, Feyenoord has lost only 1 match out of 26 matches this season. As the team is consistently playing well and has yet to lose a truck. So I am keeping this team ahead in the fight for the title. Ajax's squad is not weak. However, their performances have been somewhat erratic since the start of the season. And so far this party has not achieved complete stability.

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March 22, 2023, 08:33:47 PM
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Feyenoord's points gap with Ajax is only 6. It's not a big gap. Still, I think Feyenoord will win the title. In the last match, they won 3-2 against Ajax. Moreover, Feyenoord has lost only 1 match out of 26 matches this season. As the team is consistently playing well and has yet to lose a truck. So I am keeping this team ahead in the fight for the title. Ajax's squad is not weak. However, their performances have been somewhat erratic since the start of the season. And so far this party has not achieved complete stability.

There are only 8 rounds left to play, 24 points in total, so I don't think the lead of 6 points is small, Feyenoord should be able to defend it well if they don't collapse, but I don't think so, as you write, Feyenoord are very consistent, unlike PSV and Ajax.

Ajax will certainly strengthen well in the summer, they have enough money due to the many sales, the many departures were just too much, including the coach.

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