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March 02, 2021, 01:21:36 PM
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In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.
Every government can make a statement about resolving this problem,but it can never be resolved lots of clubs live from fixing matches ,everything can be fixed from lower league to top leagues,in Serbia even 4th division can is fixed so this problem cant be resolved and it wont be.

This is already a long-running problem not just in sports history but in human history.
I don't know any solution to this as it is passed from generation to generation.
This is the truth, we can't eradicate this bad practice in the industry.
What we can do, is not participate in this game if we know that they exist.
Spare yourself from joining this dirty game and live a more peaceful life.

Most of the players cant do a thing about if they dont participate in this kind of match they can be either benched or fired,but no one wants to do this because of their sports jobs. Some players even get paid to fix this kind of games so thats a bonus for them. This problem cant just go away like that.
If you play against their rules, you can easily get replaced and that’s why some players are just doing their job despite of their corrupt management since they don’t want to missed the game and they really do love that sports. Corruptions can’t be stop, this has been the big problem since then and I believe it will continue to exist.

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March 02, 2021, 01:33:55 PM
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There is nothing special about corruption and sports. Corruption is everywhere. If it is in sports, then it is no big deal. Remember that corruption is very much present even in religion, wars which mean death to a lot of innocent people, charity even those which are focused on poverty, etc. Those are areas where corruption is least expected but still very rampant.

There is so much money in sports that is why corruption is unavoidable there.
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March 02, 2021, 01:43:14 PM
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That's the dark side of gambling in some countries which is really unfair even if you check it in every angle or situations.

Gambling is sometimes involved in a syndication which makes rich people become more rich and poor people becomes more poor.

That's the reason why people are not engaging in gambling depending on places where these things are common to exist. Governments doesn't care about other people's bets and they are only focusing about economic growth and their own profits. Let's accept the fact that these things are existing and we have nothing to do with this but to avoid it.
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March 02, 2021, 02:38:51 PM
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If you play against their rules, you can easily get replaced and that’s why some players are just doing their job despite of their corrupt management since they don’t want to missed the game and they really do love that sports. Corruptions can’t be stop, this has been the big problem since then and I believe it will continue to exist.
I suppose if a player just doesn't care, they could continue but they can't expose it neither, so let's say you are a good player and they tell you to lose the game, all you can do is decline it but you can't just come public about it or you will probably be killed over it as well but even if you do not get killed you will not be hired by any team at all.

Long story short we are in a situation where we are going to see no player come out and make a news about this, even media will not give this but he can share it on social media if they want to but I am sure that would be very difficult as well. But, we should still try to unreveal it as much as we can as gamblers, when I see something that happens in a team I try to avoid that team as much as I can, and I feel like it is most teams at this point, because it is a lot of money to be made from this and teams need that money.

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March 02, 2021, 05:54:15 PM
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That's the dark side of gambling in some countries which is really unfair even if you check it in every angle or situations.

This is for real, can't avoid that in every places of the world, gambling mafias are present. They control this market and they are good
to work it without, even sometimes it really obvious but they manage to escape it out and continue.

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Gambling is sometimes involved in a syndication which makes rich people become more rich and poor people becomes more poor.

Rich people have enough money to play along with mafias, they are willing to take the risk in returned of very decent compensations.

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That's the reason why people are not engaging in gambling depending on places where these things are common to exist. Governments doesn't care about other people's bets and they are only focusing about economic growth and their own profits. Let's accept the fact that these things are existing and we have nothing to do with this but to avoid it.

Speaking of government, they are not going to involve themselves to something that they'll ain't going to benefits, they are just after with the taxes and all those benefits that they'll going to have allowing this business to facilatate within their jusrisdictions. Aside from that, government will not interfere to any dark side of this inustry unless there's complains about it.


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March 02, 2021, 07:06:48 PM
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Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

I'd rather ask why their wages are so incredibly high. For instance, a good specialist in his field, a scientist, a researcher, can make maybe 10k USD a month. Football players make 100k. They're getting so much that it's easy for them to become spoiled. It's especially hard to stay true to your beliefs when you come from a poor country and suddenly advance to a world league.
It's my belief that as long as there's big money in sports, there will be corruption and the governments won't be able to change anything. They can't monitor the flow of cash.

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March 02, 2021, 08:17:48 PM
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That's the dark side of gambling in some countries which is really unfair even if you check it in every angle or situations.

Gambling is sometimes involved in a syndication which makes rich people become more rich and poor people becomes more poor.

That's the reason why people are not engaging in gambling depending on places where these things are common to exist. Governments doesn't care about other people's bets and they are only focusing about economic growth and their own profits. Let's accept the fact that these things are existing and we have nothing to do with this but to avoid it.
Just one example from where I live: here gambling is forbidden, but government's lottery is allowed and valid for the whole country compete against themselves, so the prizes are huge when they accumulate.
But among so many different gamblers, curiously there are few people who are well known for winning dozens of time on the lottery, including a former congressman who won 12 times within a 1 year period. Facts like this make me stay away from this national gambling. I believe crypto casinos are much more transparent and legit than my national lottery.

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March 02, 2021, 08:20:20 PM
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In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

It's unavoidable and barely detectable by the government, let alone enforce some sort of rule.

The problem is much more rampant in countries where sportspeople are poorly remunerated and have to turn to match fixing in order to make an acceptable income. Pakistani cricket seems to be notorious for this.

And that problem won't self-correct until the risk of getting caught is higher than the relative reward that these people get for match-fixing, or that the players involved get legitimately compensated better. No amount of regulation or outlawing will help so long as this illicit sector remains lucrative.
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March 02, 2021, 08:59:38 PM
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In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

It's unavoidable and barely detectable by the government, let alone enforce some sort of rule.

The problem is much more rampant in countries where sportspeople are poorly remunerated and have to turn to match fixing in order to make an acceptable income. Pakistani cricket seems to be notorious for this.

And that problem won't self-correct until the risk of getting caught is higher than the relative reward that these people get for match-fixing, or that the players involved get legitimately compensated better. No amount of regulation or outlawing will help so long as this illicit sector remains lucrative.
It should really be changed off when it comes to penalties or consequences for them to hesitate to do such thing once they've caught.
But basing off with this link Link

A maximum penalty of 10 years imprisonment is applicable for those who do make out arrangement.Dont know on what would be into those who get involved or the player itself.

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March 02, 2021, 09:00:32 PM
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My feeling is that sport is getting more and more corrupted. Although it should be example of high values it often becomes just the opposite. But we have to admit that this is not so strange because more and more money is involved in many professional sports like football, basketball, tennis and others. Sports have become more business than game and that is not good so I think we should get back to basics and that is not going to be easy.
Of course some gamblers play on illicit way on fixed sports matches and similar and sometimes looks that human greed really doesn't have limits.

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March 02, 2021, 11:00:13 PM
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My feeling is that sport is getting more and more corrupted. Although it should be example of high values it often becomes just the opposite. But we have to admit that this is not so strange because more and more money is involved in many professional sports like football, basketball, tennis and others. Sports have become more business than game and that is not good so I think we should get back to basics and that is not going to be easy.
Of course some gamblers play on illicit way on fixed sports matches and similar and sometimes looks that human greed really doesn't have limits.

It depends on the country. I don't see how we could generalize and say that it affects all sports around the world. Is it really worse than when Russians and Germans were abusing steroids and pumping their whole teams with them so much that women were developing male features? I don't think so.
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March 02, 2021, 11:26:36 PM
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It depends on the country. I don't see how we could generalize and say that it affects all sports around the world. Is it really worse than when Russians and Germans were abusing steroids and pumping their whole teams with them so much that women were developing male features? I don't think so.

Corruption is worse than almost anything in this world. I believe that the hunger of money can make any player sell their conscience and play for the people who bought it just because they've bet something big against the odds and want to win it at any cost. There's probably nothing that could move out the greed of a person than his own will not to commit such a thing.

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March 02, 2021, 11:31:54 PM
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It depends on the country. I don't see how we could generalize and say that it affects all sports around the world. Is it really worse than when Russians and Germans were abusing steroids and pumping their whole teams with them so much that women were developing male features? I don't think so.

Corruption is worse than almost anything in this world. I believe that the hunger of money can make any player sell their conscience and play for the people who bought it just because they've bet something big against the odds and want to win it at any cost. There's probably nothing that could move out the greed of a person than his own will not to commit such a thing.

of course, there are still people that know the importance of dignity and credibility. but there will always be individuals or group that will practice illegal stuffs for the sake of money. it may not be all, but there will always be someone who will corrupt the system one way or another.
if you want to live with clear conscience, it is up to you how you will live your life, whether you are an athlete or the coach.

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March 02, 2021, 11:47:34 PM
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of course, there are still people that know the importance of dignity and credibility. but there will always be individuals or group that will practice illegal stuffs for the sake of money. it may not be all, but there will always be someone who will corrupt the system one way or another.
if you want to live with clear conscience, it is up to you how you will live your life, whether you are an athlete or the coach.

This doesn't really make any sense unless every single entity in the system becomes clean-hearted and that is almost impossible because the greed of a person can make their hearts go dumb and their minds deaf, so they won't even bear to listen to these things while doing the "bad" thing and hence, this proves that money can buy almost anything.

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March 02, 2021, 11:52:21 PM
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In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto.
Can it really happen?
corruption is very difficult to remove, even in sports and also all parties in the government and other institutions. Corruption is like being a lifestyle. Why did I say so?  Because it is like a lifestyle, always developing and will never end. Sad to know this.

Well, related to sports and gambling, some people may also focus on sports and playing bettings from sports. However, will it really far away from corruption?

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March 03, 2021, 12:21:03 AM
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It's happening in sports, that's why we hear the words "rigged" , because sports can be rigged so majority of the bettors will lose. As a gambler, I think we should be aware of that so we would know where to bet, some sports are not too obvious but it's happening inside.
Everyone has a price, it doesn't always have to be money, it might be a new gym or anything of that nature which many of our sports men and women signup for as they look at the situation as not losing anything.

And most sports games that are likely to fall prey to this corruption are those from lower leagues as their games don't get much TV coverage as compared to the premiere ones.
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March 03, 2021, 01:14:33 AM
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It's happening in sports, that's why we hear the words "rigged" , because sports can be rigged so majority of the bettors will lose. As a gambler, I think we should be aware of that so we would know where to bet, some sports are not too obvious but it's happening inside.
Everyone has a price, it doesn't always have to be money, it might be a new gym or anything of that nature which many of our sports men and women signup for as they look at the situation as not losing anything.

And most sports games that are likely to fall prey to this corruption are those from lower leagues as their games don't get much TV coverage as compared to the premiere ones.
As long as there's a money involve, we can't expect the fair game here.
Sports become a haven of money for many investors especially if they fully support a specific team. Most of the club owners are making a lot of money even if they lose the match, corruptions are always be here but I wonder how they are suffering right now especially that live viewers are still limited.
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March 03, 2021, 02:21:04 AM
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It's happening in sports, that's why we hear the words "rigged" , because sports can be rigged so majority of the bettors will lose. As a gambler, I think we should be aware of that so we would know where to bet, some sports are not too obvious but it's happening inside.
Everyone has a price, it doesn't always have to be money, it might be a new gym or anything of that nature which many of our sports men and women signup for as they look at the situation as not losing anything.

And most sports games that are likely to fall prey to this corruption are those from lower leagues as their games don't get much TV coverage as compared to the premiere ones.
As long as there's a money involve, we can't expect the fair game here.
Sports become a haven of money for many investors especially if they fully support a specific team. Most of the club owners are making a lot of money even if they lose the match, corruptions are always be here but I wonder how they are suffering right now especially that live viewers are still limited.

It is right. That is happening not just in sports, but it is also happening in other businesses or fields. Big money will be the reason for those people to corrupt and take some money from the deal.

The club owner can easily say to the public that they are suffering because they never tell their financial conditions to the public. If they share their financial conditions with the public, that will not be a complete report because they still hide something.

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March 03, 2021, 04:54:50 AM
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My feeling is that sport is getting more and more corrupted. Although it should be example of high values it often becomes just the opposite. But we have to admit that this is not so strange because more and more money is involved in many professional sports like football, basketball, tennis and others. Sports have become more business than game and that is not good so I think we should get back to basics and that is not going to be easy.
Of course some gamblers play on illicit way on fixed sports matches and similar and sometimes looks that human greed really doesn't have limits.

Yeah! we are talking about the main issue here where some certain games are fixed after they calculated all the possible wins. This is why mostly the bet happens before the match and those organizers already have the result after everyone places their bets. This is what they really doing in the sports industry because they cannot afford to lose and to pay everyone who is involved in the game, there has to be some way to get back how much they spent for it and that's the only way by fixing the game before it started.

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March 03, 2021, 05:37:44 AM
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Speaking of government, they are not going to involve themselves to something that they'll ain't going to benefits, they are just after with the taxes and all those benefits that they'll going to have allowing this business to facilatate within their jusrisdictions. Aside from that, government will not interfere to any dark side of this inustry unless there's complains about it.

Taxes are just not enough for them.
They corrupt it but they still want more.
Control over everything and that includes money in their pockets. Directly.  Grin

Just think about it, why would they even spend millions of money for their campaign, advertisements, and people.
They just know they can get it back when they are in position. Putting a stain on everything and sports cannot get away from it.

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