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It might be their solution for a faster way of retirement. Making money out of sports is limited. When you are not that strong anymore (old) they will kick you out. Injuries is also a problem. Accidents can happen anytime.
What happens afterward if you don't find anything to make money? A job. Companies with age requirements and will try to avoid old applicants. This is just one of the reason I can think of. There may be more.
If it is on of their reasons, I guess I'm gonna be disappointed. Because it's not them who will decide when will the players would quit their passion, that would be devastating for them having no choice but to quit because of corruption in sports, that's pretty messed up to be honest. Athletes are not playing their sports just to earn money, it's because they like it and they dedicated their life for it because it's their passion. The problem about certain Government is that they abuse their power, they want to control everything so that they could have the profit from all of us. Not true actually because people who represents their national on international level will be rewarded with a government job in some sector with lot of other offers but who needs a job when they already have money and ready to become an investor from the next day after their retirement?
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Corruption is inevitable in life. It basically covers every sphere and sports isn't going to be an option. I hear there are fixed bets and I wonder how does this happen? Because actually, some assured draws comes off that way and I you wonder how did it happen. Its only because of the corrupt officials and stake holders in the sports system. Sports is entertainment as much as it is business and as such, it would always be exploited for some profit by stakeholders when they aren't closely monitored.
All your questions are answerable because of money, the greed of money coming from those corrupt individuals who are encircling this indusdtry. Sports gambling is to wide so expect that there are people who have a huge amount of investment, they are throwing huge amount of money just to control everything without any trace. Though it's not exactly no traced but because again of money, they can work in front of those blind officials with the eyes that fully covered of huge amount of bribe money. It is true that money and greed are the main causes of corruption, especially since the circulation of money in sports gambling is enormous. Make some people in the world of sports become involved in corruption, because they want large amounts of money, so do whatever it takes to earn money. Even though they know that corruption is wrong, those who are involved in corruption only focus on money. This is a human being who cannot control his greed, will inevitably be involved in corruption. I guess you are blaming the corruption partly on gambling in Sport betting? Well, that wouldn't surprise me too much if morality isn't enforced in Sport Betting/Prediction Market. Prediction/Betting Market and other businesses must be safe for society and people. If you don't promote safety and enforce it, people will do whatever they want. Match fixing should never be encouraged or tolerated. It will likely encourage the kind of corruption Mr.right85, Fredomago & you described.
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It might be their solution for a faster way of retirement. Making money out of sports is limited. When you are not that strong anymore (old) they will kick you out. Injuries is also a problem. Accidents can happen anytime.
What happens afterward if you don't find anything to make money? A job. Companies with age requirements and will try to avoid old applicants. This is just one of the reason I can think of. There may be more.
If it is on of their reasons, I guess I'm gonna be disappointed. Because it's not them who will decide when will the players would quit their passion, that would be devastating for them having no choice but to quit because of corruption in sports, that's pretty messed up to be honest. Athletes are not playing their sports just to earn money, it's because they like it and they dedicated their life for it because it's their passion. The problem about certain Government is that they abuse their power, they want to control everything so that they could have the profit from all of us. Not true actually because people who represents their national on international level will be rewarded with a government job in some sector with lot of other offers but who needs a job when they already have money and ready to become an investor from the next day after their retirement? Who knows about that because if they want to have a job, they can accept the government's offer to work as many people and earn more money monthly besides becoming an investor. Many athletes work in the government office as a staff, so they can still use their skills from the academy, and also they can back to the sports anytime, especially if their instance needs them. But we hope that the athletes who work in the government's staff don't commit to making money but should have an effort to serve society. Besides that, if they can be government staff, they can retire with a monthly pension income or they can get a pension in their old.
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It might be their solution for a faster way of retirement. Making money out of sports is limited. When you are not that strong anymore (old) they will kick you out. Injuries is also a problem. Accidents can happen anytime.
What happens afterward if you don't find anything to make money? A job. Companies with age requirements and will try to avoid old applicants. This is just one of the reason I can think of. There may be more.
If it is on of their reasons, I guess I'm gonna be disappointed. Because it's not them who will decide when will the players would quit their passion, that would be devastating for them having no choice but to quit because of corruption in sports, that's pretty messed up to be honest. Athletes are not playing their sports just to earn money, it's because they like it and they dedicated their life for it because it's their passion. The problem about certain Government is that they abuse their power, they want to control everything so that they could have the profit from all of us. Not true actually because people who represents their national on international level will be rewarded with a government job in some sector with lot of other offers but who needs a job when they already have money and ready to become an investor from the next day after their retirement? Who knows about that because if they want to have a job, they can accept the government's offer to work as many people and earn more money monthly besides becoming an investor. Many athletes work in the government office as a staff, so they can still use their skills from the academy, and also they can back to the sports anytime, especially if their instance needs them. But we hope that the athletes who work in the government's staff don't commit to making money but should have an effort to serve society. Besides that, if they can be government staff, they can retire with a monthly pension income or they can get a pension in their old. Literally no one is going to work for free and the government's offer because of their excellence in sports is justified with such offer but stastically most sportsmen retires and keep living as rich life for few years and they will completely disappear when they exhaust their balance, only few sports person managed to understand they need to keep their source of income via investing to keep their life style high all the time.
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March 18, 2021, 01:55:08 PM |
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It might be their solution for a faster way of retirement. Making money out of sports is limited. When you are not that strong anymore (old) they will kick you out. Injuries is also a problem. Accidents can happen anytime.
What happens afterward if you don't find anything to make money? A job. Companies with age requirements and will try to avoid old applicants. This is just one of the reason I can think of. There may be more.
If it is on of their reasons, I guess I'm gonna be disappointed. Because it's not them who will decide when will the players would quit their passion, that would be devastating for them having no choice but to quit because of corruption in sports, that's pretty messed up to be honest. Athletes are not playing their sports just to earn money, it's because they like it and they dedicated their life for it because it's their passion. The problem about certain Government is that they abuse their power, they want to control everything so that they could have the profit from all of us. Not true actually because people who represents their national on international level will be rewarded with a government job in some sector with lot of other offers but who needs a job when they already have money and ready to become an investor from the next day after their retirement? Who knows about that because if they want to have a job, they can accept the government's offer to work as many people and earn more money monthly besides becoming an investor. Many athletes work in the government office as a staff, so they can still use their skills from the academy, and also they can back to the sports anytime, especially if their instance needs them. But we hope that the athletes who work in the government's staff don't commit to making money but should have an effort to serve society. Besides that, if they can be government staff, they can retire with a monthly pension income or they can get a pension in their old. It is too strange if the reason for corruption is due to fear of losing a job due to old age and not meeting the requirements. Humans are given reason to think and while working in the world of sports, they should have mitigated this from the start. Isn't it just sportsmen who have age requirements. But there are many other types of jobs that have these requirements. So, I strongly disagree if the corruption mindset is motivated by a lack of sense of work. Those who are corrupt are not less intellectual but lack faith.
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March 18, 2021, 03:58:00 PM |
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Corruption is really common in a higher position, there is always corruption and I don't think that it would be removed in a certain country, greediness is always the reason why corruption happens, even though they already have a stable life, good life and good money they still want more their way on this is not a good thing because they are stealing the money of other people. In our country as well, that statement is really common, the good thing in our country is that our president has lessen the corruption unlike before wherein the corruption is really obvious and most of the officials are doing it.
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March 18, 2021, 04:19:29 PM |
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national Pride to be the cause of corruption ? Looks like a Joke lol ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Politics Means Money that's the short term for that. As long as there's a politics related to sports, there will always be that stain and belief that it would always be dirty. We will Not be corrupted if there is no Money that they are targeting , and about that pride ? politics has no Pride , they are Hard faces ..
Because there's nothing to corrupt if there's no money involve. But we have to accept and embrace the fact, that it's the cause of corruption in every sector of the government when there's money on it, a huge money.
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Corruption is really common in a higher position, there is always corruption and I don't think that it would be removed in a certain country, greediness is always the reason why corruption happens, even though they already have a stable life, good life and good money they still want more their way on this is not a good thing because they are stealing the money of other people. In our country as well, that statement is really common, the good thing in our country is that our president has lessen the corruption unlike before wherein the corruption is really obvious and most of the officials are doing it.
There is no other reason why people tend to end up corrupting and that is they are not being satisfied with what they have earned but instead they are living in a fancy life where there have no allocation on their salary. At some other point, i am curious why those people who are in government position are the one who ended up in this dirty actions. Well i guess when it comes on the government corruption i already used about it, but in sports i couldn't think about it.
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Corruption in sports will depend on what country you are living. If you get to know the third world country corruption is rampant from smaller unit to high unit handling key positions especially in government units.
It is not a surprise that even in sports people with authority will be most likely to get tempted and becoming a corrupt individual. This is a serious problem in a third world country and the worst is that people are seeing it but they just not minding the things that are happening in their place and it just became normal scenario after all and others had already accepted the fact that this is the usual event to take place.
So sad, but it is the reality to sports and other agency of corrupt individuals. Mostly money is the reason that turns a good man into a bad one.
For me the most corrupt sports that probably take place are basketball and the football. These are two big sports known accross the globe.
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March 18, 2021, 10:58:31 PM |
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Corruption in sports will depend on what country you are living. If you get to know the third world country corruption is rampant from smaller unit to high unit handling key positions especially in government units.
That's not true, corruption in sport are everywhere. the bigger the sports and its gambling exposure the more there's corruption. Would you believe that even the biggest league in the world like NBA, NFL, and NHL, there's a corruption happening inside? Me, I believe there's corruption happening although few are only proven though. I followed more on the NBA since that's what I usually watch and bet. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25980368/how-former-ref-tim-donaghy-conspired-fix-nba-games
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March 18, 2021, 11:19:10 PM |
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Corruption in sports will depend on what country you are living. If you get to know the third world country corruption is rampant from smaller unit to high unit handling key positions especially in government units.
It is not a surprise that even in sports people with authority will be most likely to get tempted and becoming a corrupt individual. This is a serious problem in a third world country and the worst is that people are seeing it but they just not minding the things that are happening in their place and it just became normal scenario after all and others had already accepted the fact that this is the usual event to take place.
So sad, but it is the reality to sports and other agency of corrupt individuals. Mostly money is the reason that turns a good man into a bad one.
For me the most corrupt sports that probably take place are basketball and the football. These are two big sports known accross the globe.
What? Everywhere corruption in sports is happening and you can see it even in minor leagues, although sometimes its not totally visible but you can observe how the teams and other officials work with the whole system, also its not really surprising to see this since theres a huge money involve and everyones belief will be flipdown ones they offered a big bunch of cash just to do something which can give an advantage to their opponents. I agree most of this happen on football and basketball since this two sports are the biggest sports which gives heavy cash flow.
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March 18, 2021, 11:58:49 PM |
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Corruption in sports will depend on what country you are living. If you get to know the third world country corruption is rampant from smaller unit to high unit handling key positions especially in government units.
It is not a surprise that even in sports people with authority will be most likely to get tempted and becoming a corrupt individual. This is a serious problem in a third world country and the worst is that people are seeing it but they just not minding the things that are happening in their place and it just became normal scenario after all and others had already accepted the fact that this is the usual event to take place.
So sad, but it is the reality to sports and other agency of corrupt individuals. Mostly money is the reason that turns a good man into a bad one.
For me the most corrupt sports that probably take place are basketball and the football. These are two big sports known accross the globe.
What? Everywhere corruption in sports is happening and you can see it even in minor leagues, although sometimes its not totally visible but you can observe how the teams and other officials work with the whole system, also its not really surprising to see this since theres a huge money involve and everyones belief will be flipdown ones they offered a big bunch of cash just to do something which can give an advantage to their opponents. I agree most of this happen on football and basketball since this two sports are the biggest sports which gives heavy cash flow. Normally it would really be present on those sports which do generate tons of money and you are right that this is indeed happening but those are situations which cant really be seen that easily. but as a sports lover or fan then you can eventually able to tell if there is something happening shady with those plays out from those players which you would really assumpt that this is somewhat a rigged one. We can be that suspicious but we cant really prove it out but the probabilities are there.
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Maybe that is a scenario from the other higher officials who involve in the corruptions because sometimes, that can hide their prove about the corruptions. If some officials getting jails, that will be temporary, but the truth is, they can handle the other corruptions from the jail because their network is too wider. We really need clean officials who can work to eradicate corruption, and although that is not easy, they need to cooperate with the other officials who also can be trusted. Easy to say that we eradicate corruption but the only way to really have it completely eradicated is when we do an ironclad policies regarding corruption like death penalty for proven cases of corruption. Honestly, it is going to be difficult to eradicate corruption because we can't defeat human nature that is the root of corruption, with people that is striving for more power, wealth and influence, I think that we still haven't got any progress of eradicating it.
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March 19, 2021, 09:19:57 AM |
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Corruption is really common in a higher position, there is always corruption and I don't think that it would be removed in a certain country, greediness is always the reason why corruption happens, even though they already have a stable life, good life and good money they still want more their way on this is not a good thing because they are stealing the money of other people. In our country as well, that statement is really common, the good thing in our country is that our president has lessen the corruption unlike before wherein the corruption is really obvious and most of the officials are doing it.
The reason is not greed, but in the system itself: when an official disposes of what does not belong to him, the temptation to profit from this is very great. Where there is a state, there will always be corruption. There is practically no corruption in private business, since the owner will not steal from himself.
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March 19, 2021, 11:05:29 AM |
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I think this is one of their retirement plan wherein it’d be easier for them to earn that amount of money without playing the sports they were known for. Some even would run for government officials because people already know them when they were an athlete.
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March 19, 2021, 11:26:35 AM |
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I think this is one of their retirement plan wherein it’d be easier for them to earn that amount of money without playing the sports they were known for. Some even would run for government officials because people already know them when they were an athlete.
Retirement plan for whom? I guess no excuse could justify this because it's a crime, it's a certain team or league against the people, this is betraying public trust as their job is to entertain the people and in return they'll get money from people, that should only be the limitation and not to participate in any fix game or corruption which is a criminal offense.
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March 19, 2021, 11:36:56 AM |
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It might be their solution for a faster way of retirement. Making money out of sports is limited. When you are not that strong anymore (old) they will kick you out. Injuries is also a problem. Accidents can happen anytime.
What happens afterward if you don't find anything to make money? A job. Companies with age requirements and will try to avoid old applicants. This is just one of the reason I can think of. There may be more.
If it is on of their reasons, I guess I'm gonna be disappointed. Because it's not them who will decide when will the players would quit their passion, that would be devastating for them having no choice but to quit because of corruption in sports, that's pretty messed up to be honest. Athletes are not playing their sports just to earn money, it's because they like it and they dedicated their life for it because it's their passion. The problem about certain Government is that they abuse their power, they want to control everything so that they could have the profit from all of us. Not true actually because people who represents their national on international level will be rewarded with a government job in some sector with lot of other offers but who needs a job when they already have money and ready to become an investor from the next day after their retirement? Who knows about that because if they want to have a job, they can accept the government's offer to work as many people and earn more money monthly besides becoming an investor. Many athletes work in the government office as a staff, so they can still use their skills from the academy, and also they can back to the sports anytime, especially if their instance needs them. But we hope that the athletes who work in the government's staff don't commit to making money but should have an effort to serve society. Besides that, if they can be government staff, they can retire with a monthly pension income or they can get a pension in their old. Literally no one is going to work for free and the government's offer because of their excellence in sports is justified with such offer but stastically most sportsmen retires and keep living as rich life for few years and they will completely disappear when they exhaust their balance, only few sports person managed to understand they need to keep their source of income via investing to keep their life style high all the time. If the payment for the sportsmen is good, they can retire without thinking of searching the other job to earn money. But not many of them can have that such a good life and many can not get rich from sports. Maybe they can not manage their money and need more support from the governments by giving them a chance to work as government officers. That trigger some sportsmen to involve in the corruptions circle without thinking about the risk of their career and if they caught, they could not get another good offer from other instances. It might be their solution for a faster way of retirement. Making money out of sports is limited. When you are not that strong anymore (old) they will kick you out. Injuries is also a problem. Accidents can happen anytime.
What happens afterward if you don't find anything to make money? A job. Companies with age requirements and will try to avoid old applicants. This is just one of the reason I can think of. There may be more.
If it is on of their reasons, I guess I'm gonna be disappointed. Because it's not them who will decide when will the players would quit their passion, that would be devastating for them having no choice but to quit because of corruption in sports, that's pretty messed up to be honest. Athletes are not playing their sports just to earn money, it's because they like it and they dedicated their life for it because it's their passion. The problem about certain Government is that they abuse their power, they want to control everything so that they could have the profit from all of us. Not true actually because people who represents their national on international level will be rewarded with a government job in some sector with lot of other offers but who needs a job when they already have money and ready to become an investor from the next day after their retirement? Who knows about that because if they want to have a job, they can accept the government's offer to work as many people and earn more money monthly besides becoming an investor. Many athletes work in the government office as a staff, so they can still use their skills from the academy, and also they can back to the sports anytime, especially if their instance needs them. But we hope that the athletes who work in the government's staff don't commit to making money but should have an effort to serve society. Besides that, if they can be government staff, they can retire with a monthly pension income or they can get a pension in their old. It is too strange if the reason for corruption is due to fear of losing a job due to old age and not meeting the requirements. Humans are given reason to think and while working in the world of sports, they should have mitigated this from the start. Isn't it just sportsmen who have age requirements. But there are many other types of jobs that have these requirements. So, I strongly disagree if the corruption mindset is motivated by a lack of sense of work. Those who are corrupt are not less intellectual but lack faith. I think that is not strange because they will have many reasons to corrupt, and most of them have an excuse because they need money for their life. Maybe they do not have motivated to corrupt because of a lack of sense of work, but they tempted by the money given to them, so they decide to follow the officers corrupt. Yes, you are correct that saying they lack faith because they can not think about the damage or risk they will get when caught.
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If anybody is interested there was a good study published way back in 2016 that looked into the different types of sports corruption that look into it not being only or directly affected by money but there's also politics and national pride that come into play. It's a good but lengthy read that explains a lot https://www.researchgate.net/publication/329977201_Corruption_in_SportNice link, thanks. I will quote it for next references to it (and to not forget where it was) It's like real semi-scientific work, lol ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) And yeah, in sport and gambling in all times will be a lot of corruption. This is a reason why top football (and other games) players are so high paid. It's better to pay them more, they will afraid to lose it and will not try to cheat the system.
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March 20, 2021, 09:15:36 AM |
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Easy to say that we eradicate corruption but the only way to really have it completely eradicated is when we do an ironclad policies regarding corruption like death penalty for proven cases of corruption. Honestly, it is going to be difficult to eradicate corruption because we can't defeat human nature that is the root of corruption, with people that is striving for more power, wealth and influence, I think that we still haven't got any progress of eradicating it.
I think it is impossible to eradicate corruption, the thing is the officials and not just refs who are corrupted are the ones that are leading it, so who are you going to complain about them? They are at the top so they make all the decisions and unless they are jailed and some new ones come up that are non-corruptible which is another impossible thing, we can't find a way to get rid of them. It is really a human nature thing, making tens of millions of dollars from corruption and saying no to it is not something many people would be able to do, I mean I can honestly say that I have never been tested that way, but if I were I think I would probably accept it as well considering not just myself but my family as well. It is hard to find people who would be so good that they would say no to tens of millions of dollars in corruption money so it is going to be very difficult.
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March 20, 2021, 09:36:59 AM |
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I think this is one of their retirement plan wherein it’d be easier for them to earn that amount of money without playing the sports they were known for. Some even would run for government officials because people already know them when they were an athlete.
Retirement plan for whom? I guess no excuse could justify this because it's a crime, it's a certain team or league against the people, this is betraying public trust as their job is to entertain the people and in return they'll get money from people, that should only be the limitation and not to participate in any fix game or corruption which is a criminal offense. Corruption is still corruption no matter what is your motive good or Bad. Because if we will give consent on their activities then we must allow everything that comes illegal in this world. and besides they are the only one whos profiting while many are being a victim. They must be put in jail and suffer from their BS works.
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