Corruption and Sports

[Kittygalore]

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We can focus on the corruption in sports or what we called sports rigging.

This is not new, though not many have been convicted on this crime, based on the speculation, it's happening in the small or big leagues in any sports.
One of the most popular scandals in the past is the NBA refs rigging the game because he was betting on the game.

Tim Donaghy, is it familiar?

Tim Donaghy rings a bell, I would lie to you if I said that I am familiar with him but yeah, I've seen a fair share of sports rigging in my country because it's a third world country so corruption is a norm. I am familiar though with referees doing bad calls and players doing bad plays.

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[Maslate]

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We can focus on the corruption in sports or what we called sports rigging.

This is not new, though not many have been convicted on this crime, based on the speculation, it's happening in the small or big leagues in any sports.
One of the most popular scandals in the past is the NBA refs rigging the game because he was betting on the game.

Tim Donaghy, is it familiar?

Tim Donaghy rings a bell, I would lie to you if I said that I am familiar with him but yeah, I've seen a fair share of sports rigging in my country because it's a third world country so corruption is a norm. I am familiar though with referees doing bad calls and players doing bad plays.

It's normal for us to see bad calls from the refs, but we cannot prove that the call was really to favor the other team because it's part of the rig, they are just humans, they make mistakes. However, in the case of Tim Donaghy, I believe he made a confession and that become a big controversy, after that, no more refs that are called rigging games in the NBA, good job by the league.

[Peanutswar]

While there are this principle of sportmanship in our system... There are these people who only thinks of this entertainment as business, and business is business. Although there are clean businesses out there, that latter part are still in action, especially when gambling takes place. Money is money for this people and it is obvious that they will do anything to have this money.

I agree that now everyone thinks sports is a business and therefore corruption is on the rise. It is possible to prevent corruption by playing as a means of entertainment money is a business that can bring everyone down the administration must be free from corruption and ensure.

Today we know that sports one of the most exciting parts and many people support their team/fighter but to those top names like boxing including Manny Pacquiao for sure there's a transaction with this kind of event that the people know this is just a fight only but also have a large amount of money involved not only in boxing if we are talking about money for sure corrupts would like to join this event and taking out the incentives, cut the rewards of the players and organization.

[carlisle1]

While there are this principle of sportmanship in our system... There are these people who only thinks of this entertainment as business, and business is business. Although there are clean businesses out there, that latter part are still in action, especially when gambling takes place. Money is money for this people and it is obvious that they will do anything to have this money.

I agree that now everyone thinks sports is a business and therefore corruption is on the rise. It is possible to prevent corruption by playing as a means of entertainment money is a business that can bring everyone down the administration must be free from corruption and ensure.

Yes! it's more on business and knowing that there are many influenced that will make more money,
then corruptions is very likely to increase.

Business always matters the most, flowing money makes interest with big names behind.
With the system that always has lapses, we can all agree that those rumors are not just a hearsay but things that really happening.
but to prove is another thing, money already washout all those possible proofs and already done paying who are involved with the possible exposures.

[Kittygalore]

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It's normal for us to see bad calls from the refs, but we cannot prove that the call was really to favor the other team because it's part of the rig, they are just humans, they make mistakes. However, in the case of Tim Donaghy, I believe he made a confession and that become a big controversy, after that, no more refs that are called rigging games in the NBA, good job by the league.

Yes it's normal for some bad calls here and there but people have eyes and some have common sense and they know when the calls are a total bullshit or if something's fishy. I think that Tim isn't the last one there is because I am pretty sure that if there's one, there's definitely more, they just can't confess.

[KTChampions]

I agree that now everyone thinks sports is a business and therefore corruption is on the rise. It is possible to prevent corruption by playing as a means of entertainment money is a business that can bring everyone down the administration must be free from corruption and ensure.

What is the point of business to engage in corruption and harm itself? Usually this is done by officials who harm what they manage (but they do not care because the harm that the industry receives does not concern them and they put the profits from dirty deals in their pocket). In my opinion, the higher the concentration of business in any activity, the less corruption, and the higher the concentration of officials, the higher the corruption.

[bL4nkcode]

What is the point of business to engage in corruption and harm itself?

Business owners really doesn't want to see things like corruption on their own facility/scope, that's why there are some rules to follow, but that won't stop like that, these happens in almost all kind of industry, and it's difficult to tackle especially if the one who's behind the schemes are just the workers or the top officials/members.
Corruption in sports might happen on lower levels, or even on national levels too but international level is different, it might have some but can be counted.

[Sanitough]

What is the point of business to engage in corruption and harm itself?

Business owners really doesn't want to see things like corruption on their own facility/scope, that's why there are some rules to follow, but that won't stop like that, these happens in almost all kind of industry, and it's difficult to tackle especially if the one who's behind the schemes are just the workers or the top officials/members.
Corruption in sports might happen on lower levels, or even on national levels too but international level is different, it might have some but can be counted.

I hope that's what everyone thinks, but what if they are the ones who manages the corruption, like sports rigging, they rig sports for their personal interest as they can beat on a player or a team to make easy money. Actually, it's so easy to make money once you are in control, and being an owner, you have all the liberty.

[Lanatsa]

What is the point of business to engage in corruption and harm itself?

Business owners really doesn't want to see things like corruption on their own facility/scope, that's why there are some rules to follow, but that won't stop like that, these happens in almost all kind of industry, and it's difficult to tackle especially if the one who's behind the schemes are just the workers or the top officials/members.
Corruption in sports might happen on lower levels, or even on national levels too but international level is different, it might have some but can be counted.

I hope that's what everyone thinks, but what if they are the ones who manages the corruption, like sports rigging, they rig sports for their personal interest as they can beat on a player or a team to make easy money. Actually, it's so easy to make money once you are in control, and being an owner, you have all the liberty.

This is the reality!

Its no surprise that they could really play around because they do have the position and the power to do so.This is the sad truth and it is something that we should stress ourselves out in regarding to this.

Lots of industries isn't really exempted for such matter specially with Corruption.There would be always those people who are on the top of command which would really be utilizing
their power and position on taking up advantage and earning money on easiest way as possible.

[boyptc]

It's normal for us to see bad calls from the refs, but we cannot prove that the call was really to favor the other team because it's part of the rig, they are just humans, they make mistakes. However, in the case of Tim Donaghy, I believe he made a confession and that become a big controversy, after that, no more refs that are called rigging games in the NBA, good job by the league.

Yeah, sometimes refs calls are being said favorable but if there's really a foul, they should call it.

We're thinking like that because we're not with the favored team by that call. But there are also instances that there really are bad calls and seems to be suspicious.

[ipanks]

Wow, there are many aspects under which politicians, political problems have been above sport, just realizing with football there is much where we can say, only remember the shameful scheme of a president of FIFA and all businesses , fixes in world elimination matches and even fixes in the soccer world cup games were made that cannot be easily erased, from there I deduce that the VAR came out, and thanks to the Netherlands, when the referee checks the VAR, now all the Spectators will be able to see what the referee sees on the giant screen of the soccer stadium.

Despite all these facts, corruption for me, lies in these types of acts and in another way with what happened with the world qualifying game with Brazil vs Argentina, recently, these acts make them become corrupt thanks to political problems that They can never be above football, for now it is unfortunately like that.

You think that the fact that the crowd in the stadium seeing what VAR referee sees will make them be fair? I don't think so. If they want or have to invalidate some goal or penalty, they will whether the crowd in the stadium agrees with the decision or not.

My opinion is that there will always be a corruption when big amount of money is at stake.

The corruption will always be there, whether we see it clearly or the corruption is hiding from us. Those people who commit corruption will always do it secretly and pretend that they are clear without any corruption. The corruption itself already happens from the highest level and if they do that,  the law will hard to touch them because they can moves invisible. Until the honest officers from the government have a big effort to search for the evidence, that case will appear publicly. Otherwise, that will still happen for a long time.

Actually, what I see is not the law, it's the fact that it's hard to prove a fixed game, and only a few got caught on that. If it's within inside and no one will talk or no one will show up as witness of the sports rigging, nothing will happen because all we can do is to speculate.

As a witness, those people will not say anything to the public or their officials because those people can get bribes. People who are related to one case can drag the other people who look clean and do not have any correlation from the case. The case will be buried if, somehow, one person is disappointed with the corruption and will blow the whistle to drag the other people to come out. But I doubt that the high-level officials will not do something to make their name dirty.

[KTChampions]

What is the point of business to engage in corruption and harm itself?

Business owners really doesn't want to see things like corruption on their own facility/scope, that's why there are some rules to follow, but that won't stop like that, these happens in almost all kind of industry, and it's difficult to tackle especially if the one who's behind the schemes are just the workers or the top officials/members.
Corruption in sports might happen on lower levels, or even on national levels too but international level is different, it might have some but can be counted.

The national level is just a hotbed of corruption because officials rule there, there is not a single businessman in the classical sense. And many officials follow the course of their country's authorities, and if these authorities are obsessed with ideas about greatness and "victories", then they will try to win at any cost, even through doping, undercover games and any kind of dirt. I think everyone knows about Russia and about the doping system that was revealed there.

[Russlenat]

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It seems to me that many people just don't understand how deeply corruption is embedded in sports at all levels. It is so difficult to investigate and provide evidence of corruption in sports that I get the impression that corruption will never be eradicated from sports. 

Exactly, that's why corruption will continue to exist, some games look questionable but we can never question them because there's no evidence that would prove they are doing something wrong, all we have is inside our mind and we speculate of what could probably be happening.

As a bettor, I also consider that sports are rig and I don't fall in love with sports easily, so I can be wise when it comes to betting, that's using my mind not my emotion.

[virasog]

While there are this principle of sportmanship in our system... There are these people who only thinks of this entertainment as business, and business is business. Although there are clean businesses out there, that latter part are still in action, especially when gambling takes place. Money is money for this people and it is obvious that they will do anything to have this money.

I agree that now everyone thinks sports is a business and therefore corruption is on the rise. It is possible to prevent corruption by playing as a means of entertainment money is a business that can bring everyone down the administration must be free from corruption and ensure.

Yes! it's more on business and knowing that there are many influenced that will make more money,
then corruptions is very likely to increase.

Business always matters the most, flowing money makes interest with big names behind.
With the system that always has lapses, we can all agree that those rumors are not just a hearsay but things that really happening.
but to prove is another thing, money already washout all those possible proofs and already done paying who are involved with the possible exposures.

Where there is money involved, there is  always bad people who want easy money and they will do corruption. You will find a lot of corruption in sports also but most of the time it does not come on the media. Sometimes the players are also corrupt and they fix the matches even though they already earn a lot of legal money. Greed of money is never ending.

[Sanitough]

While there are this principle of sportmanship in our system... There are these people who only thinks of this entertainment as business, and business is business. Although there are clean businesses out there, that latter part are still in action, especially when gambling takes place. Money is money for this people and it is obvious that they will do anything to have this money.

I agree that now everyone thinks sports is a business and therefore corruption is on the rise. It is possible to prevent corruption by playing as a means of entertainment money is a business that can bring everyone down the administration must be free from corruption and ensure.

Yes! it's more on business and knowing that there are many influenced that will make more money,
then corruptions is very likely to increase.

Business always matters the most, flowing money makes interest with big names behind.
With the system that always has lapses, we can all agree that those rumors are not just a hearsay but things that really happening.
but to prove is another thing, money already washout all those possible proofs and already done paying who are involved with the possible exposures.

Where there is money involved, there is  always bad people who want easy money and they will do corruption. You will find a lot of corruption in sports also but most of the time it does not come on the media. Sometimes the players are also corrupt and they fix the matches even though they already earn a lot of legal money. Greed of money is never ending.

How would we know if there's corruption happening if it's not proven? That's the kind of question we always have in our mind, but we still presume that corruption is really happening since we can see it and sometimes it's too obvious. The organizers will keep doing it as it's been generating a lot of money for them, but they are slowly destroying the reputation of the sports by not making it clean so the fans will have a fair experience in terms of enjoyment.

[KTChampions]

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It seems to me that many people just don't understand how deeply corruption is embedded in sports at all levels. It is so difficult to investigate and provide evidence of corruption in sports that I get the impression that corruption will never be eradicated from sports. 

One of the main problems is that the same people who are engaged in it are fighting corruption  The result is clearly visible in our country, which was caught on the state doping system and now the entire national sport bears heavy consequences in the form of discrimination even against those athletes who were completely clean (at least they were not caught on anything).

[Botnake]

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It seems to me that many people just don't understand how deeply corruption is embedded in sports at all levels. It is so difficult to investigate and provide evidence of corruption in sports that I get the impression that corruption will never be eradicated from sports. 

One of the main problems is that the same people who are engaged in it are fighting corruption  The result is clearly visible in our country, which was caught on the state doping system and now the entire national sport bears heavy consequences in the form of discrimination even against those athletes who were completely clean (at least they were not caught on anything).

That's what it is, you are in the same sport, and one person found guilty of rigging games, the whole reputation of the sports will be ruined. That's why it's very serious that the government has to impose a serious punishment on people who are caught rigging games, especially if it's the organization itself as it's a coordinated action and massive cheating is happening inside.

[mv1986]

One of the main problems is that the same people who are engaged in it are fighting corruption  The result is clearly visible in our country, which was caught on the state doping system and now the entire national sport bears heavy consequences in the form of discrimination even against those athletes who were completely clean (at least they were not caught on anything).

Totally agree. The doping scandal has had an enormous impact on the reputation of absolutely all Russian athletes. Due to the corruption, which has become systemic, many honest athletes have to feel some discomfort from the increased attention given to doping tests and performances at international competitions without the national flag and anthem of their country.

If it's systemic the way you described it here, like authorities are also involved, it is probably the worst situation anyway. It is systemic anyway in my opinion because athletes who don't dope know they won't have a fair chance to compete, so they are pulled into the doping system almost automatically.

Dopers are always one step ahead of anti-doping authorities as the dopers and their doctors can innovate while as an anti-doping authority you don't even always know what you are looking for. You can only find what you are looking for, and if you look for the wrong things you won't be able to detect anything. That makes it a profitable and attractive business practice for doctors: try to be the one who develops stuff that nobody can find or prove you being guilty of taking it. I guess most of the absolute superstars are taking something.

[Ziskinberg]

But I doubt that the high-level officials will not do something to make their name dirty.

The fact that they tolerate or control the corruption, they are considered as big syndicate as we are talking of million or billion dollar business depending on the popularity of the league, the more popular it is, the more money will come in the form of bets, and with corruption, rigging games is easy and that would result to easy money by those who give tips to big bettors or what we called sharks or whales.

[Pamadar]

If it's systemic the way you described it here, like authorities are also involved, it is probably the worst situation anyway. It is systemic anyway in my opinion because athletes who don't dope know they won't have a fair chance to compete, so they are pulled into the doping system almost automatically.

They are, behind the doors, they don't have any opportunities if the system was already corrupt, the only thing they can do
is to go with the flow. If they wanted to continue playing or being part of the team, they need to comply and they needed
to play the role that the management asks them to act without any further question.

That's the only thing if the system of corruptions already there before players even start joining the team.

Dopers are always one step ahead of anti-doping authorities as the dopers and their doctors can innovate while as an anti-doping authority you don't even always know what you are looking for. You can only find what you are looking for, and if you look for the wrong things you won't be able to detect anything. That makes it a profitable and attractive business practice for doctors: try to be the one who develops stuff that nobody can find or prove you being guilty of taking it. I guess most of the absolute superstars are taking something.

Another truth that we can't see, those people are always one step ahead, whatever plans the execution bodies are planning
Those people already have their own alternatives. The fact that most of them are part of the system, so there's nothing that
really possible unless the government and the whole organization will diminish everything and replace everyone with a high
conscience and very trusted parties.