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[rdbase]

It does seem there will be alot of movement during the off-season this year after what has been circulating around the media lately.
And with the season not even quite done yet, this might cause some friction within the team's ranks I would imagine.
Ah well, it makes for an endless stream of material for the next season of Drive to Survive.
That's a certainty.

[crwth]

It does seem there will be alot of movement during the off-season this year after what has been circulating around the media lately.

Some news that I have seen regarding 2023 is a lot. Maybe some of you are interested to see it as well.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mclaren-end-ricciardo-deal-piastri-2023/10349014/
https://racingnews365.com/revealed-piastri-to-replace-ricciardo-at-mclaren-in-2023
https://twitter.com/alex_albon/status/1554829547006111749

It's definitely a lot of movement and probably not done yet.

[rdbase]

Yes, hearing that a driver who was to replace another on a team yet they had a deal already with yet another is quite the mess up in the F1.
Because I can't see Ricciardo racing with any passion for the team for the rest of the season and probably just end up coasting for the remainder.

It does not have either team look good any way you look at it.

[CLS63]

I have even heard a rumour about this situation like McLaren already have made their decision about Ricciardo right after the Hungarian GP. And after that he is said to have contacted Alpine for a possible deal for the next season. I think Ricciardo's performance has gone down a lot recently. This must be the main reason why the team are willing to send him from the team these days. Piastri has been a very successful driver so far but it is hard to tell now if he would be at least as successful as Norris at McLaren.

[tygeade]

Yes, hearing that a driver who was to replace another on a team yet they had a deal already with yet another is quite the mess up in the F1.
Because I can't see Ricciardo racing with any passion for the team for the rest of the season and probably just end up coasting for the remainder.

It does not have either team look good any way you look at it.

Not like he was winning a bunch of races for them before this neither, he was terrible before this news and this is basically the main reason why he is getting fired basically, he didn't delivered any good results for the past 2 years and he didn't provided anything that was expected of him.

I am not shocked about him getting fired but I think it could be a better deal for the team for the rest of the season. Why? He would want other teams to see him as a good racer, and for that to happen he needs to get good results, if he gets good results then he could find himself a team, and if he doesn't get any good results and races like this, best he could do would be like Aston martin or maybe haas if Mick goes somewhere else.

[darxiaomi]

I agreed with this guy, i really dont know why the people think the fired up of Ricciardo was unnecesary, but man, in this two year he was a really bad driver in term of results, the only thing he do was that Win in italy with more luck than skill. After that he never was the driver we know, i hope he leaves mclaren and i want to see him in another team to see if with another car he can be the real Daniel who all know and love. The late braker Daniel.

[PawGo]

Finally I have watched Vettel's 4 min-long farewell video, could be seen on his instagram and page https://sebastianvettel.de/en/start/
Nice one, but it fact it is 4 minutes about nothing - typical statement "I want to spend more time with my family". Let's see what he will do next. Finally, sooner or later almost everyone goes to Dakar race.

I remember I was on F1 Spa race in 2019, the race was won by Leclerc - it was his first win! Before the race I bought a red Ferrari/Vettel t-shirt, for some time I was not sure which one to buy, Vettel or Leclerc. If I had known Leclerc win, it would have chosen his t-shirt, but Vettel's one just looked better ;-)

[darxiaomi]

I read so many times in footbal players for example, when they comes to retirement, they enjoy the family life but only for a year or maybe two, but they are so used to the sport life and they keep steaking to a kind of life that no longer exist, so a lot of them comes back from retirement or they come DT, reporter, journalist, etc.

I think this its the same, he clearly come back to sports in the future.

[PawGo]

I read so many times in footbal players for example, when they comes to retirement, they enjoy the family life but only for a year or maybe two, but they are so used to the sport life and they keep steaking to a kind of life that no longer exist, so a lot of them comes back from retirement or they come DT, reporter, journalist, etc.

You are right, there are many examples of former sportsmen who did "come back", usually it was a bad decision. Ali, Jordan, etc. No man ever steps in the same river twice.
Nico Rosberg found his way, I really appreciate he found there are other professions that just a car driver.

[boltz]

Vettel doesn't seems that type of guy who would make a comeback just to make the headlines all over the news but I do see him as the future boss of F1 or someone important who will guide the next generation of F1 drivers to a new era with more fair rules that we seen right now. At least , this is how I see Vettel in the next years as the statement kinda made it clear that he really wants to spend time with his family but also stay involve in F1 without driving so he gave us an insight right there. Rumors also said that he will be placed on a top position on F1 board in the coming years.

[delfastTions]

Vettel doesn't seems that type of guy who would make a comeback just to make the headlines all over the news but I do see him as the future boss of F1 or someone important who will guide the next generation of F1 drivers to a new era with more fair rules that we seen right now. At least , this is how I see Vettel in the next years as the statement kinda made it clear that he really wants to spend time with his family but also stay involve in F1 without driving so he gave us an insight right there. Rumors also said that he will be placed on a top position on F1 board in the coming years.

It should be noted that Vettel is 35 years old.  This is the age when most riders begin an irreversible process of slowing down reactions, like all people in general.  Worthy to perform in the race becomes difficult, if not impossible. 
Therefore, I always treat with understanding and a little sadness when great racers leave in the past.  If I'm not mistaken, Vettel was the champion in 2011-12, 13? but 10 years have already passed.

[PawGo]

It should be noted that Vettel is 35 years old.  This is the age when most riders begin an irreversible process of slowing down reactions, like all people in general.  Worthy to perform in the race becomes difficult, if not impossible. 
Therefore, I always treat with understanding and a little sadness when great racers leave in the past.  If I'm not mistaken, Vettel was the champion in 2011-12, 13? but 10 years have already passed.

You cannot fight with aging. That's why it was really interesting what happened to Robert Kubica, who came back to F1 after his accident. Williams took a driver in his thirties, his dream came true, but there were no good results (yes, Williams car was far from ideal). Now he is in Alfa Romeo as a 3rd driver, but as driving is his way of life, he is involved in other racing series too. By the way, in 2018 Kubica's manager was Rosberg, who found a new way of life after retirement form F1.
What is important is tendency to risk or need for adrenaline. Belgian former cyclist, World Champion from 2005, Tom Boonen finished his career in 2017, at the same year he passed tests for racing license and started to race, initially in VW Fun Cup (if you do not know it, google it! really enjoying!). And he had a really serious dangerous crash in 2019.

[rdbase]

Vettel doesn't seems that type of guy who would make a comeback just to make the headlines all over the news but I do see him as the future boss of F1 or someone important who will guide the next generation of F1 drivers to a new era with more fair rules that we seen right now. At least , this is how I see Vettel in the next years as the statement kinda made it clear that he really wants to spend time with his family but also stay involve in F1 without driving so he gave us an insight right there. Rumors also said that he will be placed on a top position on F1 board in the coming years.

It should be noted that Vettel is 35 years old.  This is the age when most riders begin an irreversible process of slowing down reactions, like all people in general.  Worthy to perform in the race becomes difficult, if not impossible.  
Therefore, I always treat with understanding and a little sadness when great racers leave in the past.  If I'm not mistaken, Vettel was the champion in 2011-12, 13? but 10 years have already passed.

Hamilton is 37 years old and it is showing this season for certain.
Especially a few races ago when he complained of his back giving him problems with the constant bouncing of the car on the track.
You can see this when he was trying to get out of his cockpit right after the race and he was holding his back.
I think I remember some drivers well into their 40's still driving but probably not at a professional level such as F1.

[fullhdpixel]

It should be noted that Vettel is 35 years old.  This is the age when most riders begin an irreversible process of slowing down reactions, like all people in general.  Worthy to perform in the race becomes difficult, if not impossible.  
Therefore, I always treat with understanding and a little sadness when great racers leave in the past.  If I'm not mistaken, Vettel was the champion in 2011-12, 13? but 10 years have already passed.

Hamilton is 37 years old and it is showing this season for certain.
Especially a few races ago when he complained of his back giving him problems with the constant bouncing of the car on the track.
You can see this when he was trying to get out of his cockpit right after the race and he was holding his back.
I think I remember some drivers well into their 40's still driving but probably not at a professional level such as F1.

Even though I agree that he is aging a lot, I also would like to say that his back was hurt because of bouncing of the car, if you gave that to Max, he would had back problems as well. I mean Mercedes car bounces like a toy, it's unrealistic to expect them to be fully healthy with no pain after so many bounces, the body can take only so much.

This isn't to say that Hamilton is at 100%, he is definitely not anymore, he is losing his edge and I think he will retire in a year or two, because he wouldn't want to be on a bad team like Vettel or Alonso did, hence he wouldn't just move back to Williams and enjoy, he will straight up retire.

[PawGo]

This isn't to say that Hamilton is at 100%, he is definitely not anymore, he is losing his edge and I think he will retire in a year or two, because he wouldn't want to be on a bad team like Vettel or Alonso did, hence he wouldn't just move back to Williams and enjoy, he will straight up retire.

If he would like to quit "properly", he should quit in 1-2 years, leaving Mercedes. It will be very tempting to race "one more last season" but then the most probably it would be much weaker team and he would regularly finish in the second half. I do not think Red Bull or Ferrari would take him, so he will end in any other team, like in happened to Kimi. But going to Williams... would be funny.

[boltz]

This isn't to say that Hamilton is at 100%, he is definitely not anymore, he is losing his edge and I think he will retire in a year or two, because he wouldn't want to be on a bad team like Vettel or Alonso did, hence he wouldn't just move back to Williams and enjoy, he will straight up retire.

If he would like to quit "properly", he should quit in 1-2 years, leaving Mercedes. It will be very tempting to race "one more last season" but then the most probably it would be much weaker team and he would regularly finish in the second half. I do not think Red Bull or Ferrari would take him, so he will end in any other team, like in happened to Kimi. But going to Williams... would be funny.

I think Lewis will be here for the next 3-4 years. Why ? Simply because he won't let Alonso compete longer than him. It's his main rival and he always will be not Vettel or Rosberg or Max. Will he go to weaker car ? I doubt it but I do see him trying to make a comeback for McLaren or if Toto leaves for Aston Martin , I could see him go there as well. We are heading towards exciting years of racing in F1 when teams and drivers are chancing pilots or engine suppliers very quick.

[crwth]

I don't like the idea of Lewis retiring. Imagine him being a seven-time world champion, and I would want him to have more. Because imagine, he will overtake Michael Schumacher with the times he has been the champion, and he will be the G.O.A.T of F1. He still has a lot of fuel left to win a championship. Maybe not now, but we will see. I hope he does his best, though.

[PawGo]

I don't like the idea of Lewis retiring. Imagine him being a seven-time world champion, and I would want him to have more. Because imagine, he will overtake Michael Schumacher with the times he has been the champion, and he will be the G.O.A.T of F1. He still has a lot of fuel left to win a championship. Maybe not now, but we will see. I hope he does his best, though.

I am pretty sure there are many people who wish completely opposite - not the break records and keep it for other driver (or at least keep the legend alive). Many people were tired with "Hamilton's era" (Mercedes cars were the fastest, penalties were not so strong as for other drivers etc.), and at the end it is kind of show business, people want to see show, people want entertainment. Change of rules, new cars - and Hamilton is not it top 3.
There will be new drivers, new money coming to F1. Maybe not from Russia (at least for some time), but there are always dozens of drivers who want to take his seat. And I am sure that Mercedes is looking for a new driver to be Russel's partner - they have their "academy" so they know who could be the candidate.

[FanEagle]

Also the idea that he would have 8 is a long gone thing right now if you ask me. Is it still possible? Of course, but right now he is not only fighting with Max, but fighting against 2 other teams that have better cars and a great new driver that is trying to beat him at all times. Meaning he has to face 5 other people instead of just 1 this time around. This year is already gone, he won't be champion at all this year, that's for sure. And next year?

I do not think that other teams would suddenly start to be a horrible one, which leaves us with Lewis ending up fighting for it again on not the best car. He has never won a title without the best car under him, doubt he will do it at this age.

[crwth]

Can Lewis Hamilton keep going until he is 50?
Highly unlikely but as someone else had already mentioned, it is now more about driving longer than their competition more then anything else.

I don't think he will go that far though but retirement is just a fancy word that they could get back on. Look at Alonso, he should be retired but went back at it again. So we will never know right now but I think Lewis is still gearing up for that 8th championship, maybe.

I am pretty sure there are many people who wish completely opposite - not the break records and keep it for other driver (or at least keep the legend alive)  Many people were tired with "Hamilton's era" (Mercedes cars were the fastest, penalties were not so strong as for other drivers etc.), and at the end it is kind of show business, people want to see show, people want entertainment. Change of rules, new cars - and Hamilton is not it top 3.

Are you one of those people that wants the complete opposite? Isn't it time to replace the legend and make him a legend as well? (He is already I think)

There will be new drivers, new money coming to F1. Maybe not from Russia (at least for some time), but there are always dozens of drivers who want to take his seat. And I am sure that Mercedes is looking for a new driver to be Russel's partner - they have their "academy" so they know who could be the candidate.

Where did that come from? Mercedes looking for a new driver? I don't think Toto has said anything about that and Lewis is still the driver that they would want to have.

I do not think that other teams would suddenly start to be a horrible one, which leaves us with Lewis ending up fighting for it again on not the best car. He has never won a title without the best car under him, doubt he will do it at this age.

The game is changing so maybe he can win by experience next year or something.