[ BOXING POLL ADDED ] The Rematch - JOSHUA vs USYK II (updated thread)

[FinneysTrueVision]

What a fantastic fight. Usyk was too fast and skillful for AJ. Joshua started to have some success after he was landing some body shots but Usyk closed out the championship rounds very well and it looked like he was close to getting a knockout several times.

We will probably not get an undisputed champion anytime soon due to the rematch clause in this fight, but I think Fury vs. Usyk is a much more interesting fight. Joshua would not have done well against Fury if he is not even able to take a punch from a cruiserweight.

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[KTChampions]

Joshua will no doubt invoke the re-match clause but he got beaten by the better fighter and Joshua will probably be beaten again because Usyk is the better fighter. Joshua cannot box against technical boxers and win. Ruiz and Usyk proved that.

I worry this could a career ending defining defeat and milestone for Joshua as far as boxing is concerned whether there is are-match or not.

Yes, the problem is not that Joshua lost, but how he lost - Usyk surpassed him in everything in every round. Even for me it was unexpected, although from the very beginning I said that these are about two equal boxers and bookmakers are mistaken when they give such skewed odds for this fight.
Joshua's only hope was (and will be in the rematch if it takes place) a lucky punch.

I have one football match left to win, so I have very high hopes for Tottenham's game tomorrow!

If this happens it will be the biggest odds I have ever won. Well, of course, I congratulate everyone who, like me, bet on Usyk's victory.

Take the money and run away!   It will be a shame not to end the streak because of one outcome.

[markdario112616]

Damn, what a fight. Usyk, played well in this one. Was waiting for that, one punch just one punch from AJ   But hell it didn't come, rematch! there's should be a rematch for this one. Hoping for a rematch, like Ruiz and Joshua II, it should be entertaining and we'll see if he can regain himself and belts. But yeah, can't get over how it all goes down. Kudos to Usyk, well deserved I guess.

[Rruchi man]

We will probably not get an undisputed champion anytime soon due to the rematch clause in this fight, but I think Fury vs. Usyk is a much more interesting fight. Joshua would not have done well against Fury if he is not even able to take a punch from a cruiserweight.

IMHO, i think a Fury vs Usyk will end with Fury knocking out Usyk. Fury just needs to win against Wilder and we can all get to witness the fight. Everyone including myself was hoping to see AJ and Fury fight, is there any possibility of this still happening later on? if it ever happens and AJ fights with same morale and laxity that he fought with today, i don't think he will stand any chance.

[JollyGood]

I think you are right. Joshua cannot outbox someone like Usyk, that was proven tonight. He can knock him out though if he catches him with a right hand but Usyk is a good fighter and will try to avoid getting hit with the right preferring to get hit by the jab instead.

The manner of the defeat will be hard for Joshua to take too and he was just about hanging in at the final bell. If Usyk had not run out of energy at the bell he would have knocked Joshua out because he was sitting on the ropes dazed with his defences down.

Joshua will invoke the re-match but it will not be easy to win. Well done to Usyk, congratulations to him. What a performance.

Joshua will no doubt invoke the re-match clause but he got beaten by the better fighter and Joshua will probably be beaten again because Usyk is the better fighter. Joshua cannot box against technical boxers and win. Ruiz and Usyk proved that.

I worry this could a career ending defining defeat and milestone for Joshua as far as boxing is concerned whether there is are-match or not.

Yes, the problem is not that Joshua lost, but how he lost - Usyk surpassed him in everything in every round. Even for me it was unexpected, although from the very beginning I said that these are about two equal boxers and bookmakers are mistaken when they give such skewed odds for this fight.
Joshua's only hope was (and will be in the rematch if it takes place) a lucky punch.
 

[AmoreJaz]

Damn, what a fight. Usyk, played well in this one. Was waiting for that, one punch just one punch from AJ   But hell it didn't come, rematch! there's should be a rematch for this one. Hoping for a rematch, like Ruiz and Joshua II, it should be entertaining and we'll see if he can regain himself and belts. But yeah, can't get over how it all goes down. Kudos to Usyk, well deserved I guess.

will usyk's camp be amenable with re-match? or will they look for another opponent like fury? we haven't seen AJ's lucky punch here. i believe a lot betted on joshua here. the odds are great if you happen to bet on usyk. at least, we watched a good fight here and not a boring one. let us see what joshua's camp have to say after this fight...

[JollyGood]

I have to agree here.

If Fury gets past Wilder III then he probably will beat Usyk by KO or TKO well before 12 rounds. The chances of Usyk beating Fury are not high.

Joshua needs to win his re-match with Usyk to get any credibility back and get in the ring with the winner of Fury vs Wilder III but for me Joshua just is not a proper technical fighter and it showed again this evening when Usyk beat him on every level and in every round. Joshua is brave but that alone does not win boxing fights.

We will probably not get an undisputed champion anytime soon due to the rematch clause in this fight, but I think Fury vs. Usyk is a much more interesting fight. Joshua would not have done well against Fury if he is not even able to take a punch from a cruiserweight.

IMHO, i think a Fury vs Usyk will end with Fury knocking out Usyk. Fury just needs to win against Wilder and we can all get to witness the fight. Everyone including myself was hoping to see AJ and Fury fight, is there any possibility of this still happening later on? if it ever happens and AJ fights with same morale and laxity that he fought with today, i don't think he will stand any chance.

[coin-investor]

I have to agree here.

If Fury gets past Wilder III then he probably will beat Usyk by KO or TKO well before 12 rounds. The chances of Usyk beating Fury are not high.

It's not high but possible, so many losses their bets here, many thought Usyk chances to beat Joshua is slim but look at what happened, we really can't rule out an upset, Joshua on this fight can't figure out Usyk, he fought an intelligent match, I also thought Joshua has a good ring generalship but look at what happened, there's a possibility of a rematch but it's better if Usyk will go against the winner of Fury - Wilder match.

[Dave1]

Damn, what a fight. Usyk, played well in this one. Was waiting for that, one punch just one punch from AJ   But hell it didn't come, rematch! there's should be a rematch for this one. Hoping for a rematch, like Ruiz and Joshua II, it should be entertaining and we'll see if he can regain himself and belts. But yeah, can't get over how it all goes down. Kudos to Usyk, well deserved I guess.

will usyk's camp be amenable with re-match? or will they look for another opponent like fury? we haven't seen AJ's lucky punch here. i believe a lot betted on joshua here. the odds are great if you happen to bet on usyk. at least, we watched a good fight here and not a boring one. let us see what joshua's camp have to say after this fight...

What also surprised to see the results of the fight, I though AJ would have this one on the bag, but Usyk is very clever and didn't allow AJ to have that one big punch, instead he controlled the whole fight, winning by decision.

Not sure if there is a rematch class, but Eddie Hearn is more concern about the AJ's eye before proceeding with that rematch against Usyk.

[TravelMug]

I have to agree here.

If Fury gets past Wilder III then he probably will beat Usyk by KO or TKO well before 12 rounds. The chances of Usyk beating Fury are not high.

Joshua needs to win his re-match with Usyk to get any credibility back and get in the ring with the winner of Fury vs Wilder III but for me Joshua just is not a proper technical fighter and it showed again this evening when Usyk beat him on every level and in every round. Joshua is brave but that alone does not win boxing fights.

We will probably not get an undisputed champion anytime soon due to the rematch clause in this fight, but I think Fury vs. Usyk is a much more interesting fight. Joshua would not have done well against Fury if he is not even able to take a punch from a cruiserweight.

IMHO, i think a Fury vs Usyk will end with Fury knocking out Usyk. Fury just needs to win against Wilder and we can all get to witness the fight. Everyone including myself was hoping to see AJ and Fury fight, is there any possibility of this still happening later on? if it ever happens and AJ fights with same morale and laxity that he fought with today, i don't think he will stand any chance.

Do you think that Joshua needs to exercise his rematch clause immediately? Or need to fight someone, not that dangerous to bring his confidence back? It looks like he lost everything in his fight, his ability to box and that power. Not sure what happen to Joshua here, but I doubt that he can bounce back again after a beating from Usyk.

And it just shows how good Fury is, if he beats Wilder then probably will win against Usyk, his height and power might be to much for Usyk to absorb. As far as technical skills, Fury is still the best in this division.

[Kemarit]

Good win by Usyk, his corner and the strategy in this fight is perfect.

Joshua just stand there, no head movement that's why Usyk was able to slip that left hand that do the damage throughout the rest of the fight. On the other hand, Usyk was doing a lot of feints and head movement that confuses Joshua that's why he can't pull that one punch that could have change the fight. Maybe Joshua doesn't want to engage anymore after the Ruiz fight that's why he is very cautious in this fight and looks settled exchanging in the middle but it was all Usyk.

[Sithara007]

Good. Joshua finally realized that in order to win a match he need skills other than being a motormouth. Eddie Hearn immediately came up with some stupid excuse, and claimed that AJ was almost blinded due to the injury to the eye socket. Usyk was simply the better boxer, and his victory was so clean. AJ had the home advantage, but it was of no use. And although AJ's team is now asking for a rematch, I think the next bout for Usyk may be against Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder. AJ now needs to prove himself.

[smyslov]

Good. Joshua finally realized that in order to win a match he need skills other than being a motormouth. Eddie Hearn immediately came up with some stupid excuse, and claimed that AJ was almost blinded due to the injury to the eye socket. Usyk was simply the better boxer, and his victory was so clean. AJ had the home advantage, but it was of no use. And although AJ's team is now asking for a rematch, I think the next bout for Usyk may be against Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder. AJ now needs to prove himself.

I loss $100 to a friend, because of Joshua's bad performance his size and power did not show up here, Usyk proves to be very fast and accurate something Joshua did not expect in this match, Eddie Hearns admitted that Joshua was beaten by a better man but Joshua is going to rebuild himself and find a way what went wrong so expect a discussion for a rematch.

Here is an interview with Hearns by Sky Boxing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zazxFjb-QfU

[7788bitcoin]

Joshua will no doubt invoke the re-match clause but he got beaten by the better fighter and Joshua will probably be beaten again because Usyk is the better fighter. Joshua cannot box against technical boxers and win. Ruiz and Usyk proved that.

I worry this could a career ending defining defeat and milestone for Joshua as far as boxing is concerned whether there is are-match or not.

I was leaning toward Anthony Joshua and Oleksandr Usyk showcased a boxing master class and now the grand showdown and the hype of a Tyson Fury fight against Anthony Joshua will not get the same level of attention like we expected, if not i thought that it would become the biggest boxing event in terms of hype and money collected in decades and it could match some of the Floyd Mayweather events.

Now all eyes will be in the trilogy between Tyson Fury and Wilder.

[smyslov]

We have witnessed two upsets just this month first it was Pacquiao now Joshua, but Joshua's upset is very surprising and major one, considering that it was held in his hometown and he is at the peak of his career and gearing up for a match against Fury or Wilder, I hope Fury will not get upset when he fights Wilder, or it will be the end of the domination of British boxers.

[Cryptmuster]

We all know that this is a professional fight and we need much strategy for Joshua to win the match. It is just unfortunate that many gamblers lost there bets because they were not able to see what could have happened in the fight which prove that Usyk is more skillful to be able to win the match. Let's see what will happen in the rematch if the panel can grant that which could be a slim chance for me to think of.

I am very glad that Usyk won, I congratulate him on the greatest achievement in his career! The victory is completely fully deserved ! Despite Joshua's advantages in anthropometry, Usyk was still able to make good use of his trump card - speed. I also want to note that Usyk was better prepared physically for this fight, which was especially evident in the last rounds. I don't think that a rematch can change a lot, Usyk is a very great boxer, he inscribed his name in the history of boxing forever!

[Bohdan820]

We all know that this is a professional fight and we need much strategy for Joshua to win the match. It is just unfortunate that many gamblers lost there bets because they were not able to see what could have happened in the fight which prove that Usyk is more skillful to be able to win the match. Let's see what will happen in the rematch if the panel can grant that which could be a slim chance for me to think of.

I am very glad that Usyk won, I congratulate him on the greatest achievement in his career! The victory is completely fully deserved ! Despite Joshua's advantages in anthropometry, Usyk was still able to make good use of his trump card - speed. I also want to note that Usyk was better prepared physically for this fight, which was especially evident in the last rounds. I don't think that a rematch can change a lot, Usyk is a very great boxer, he inscribed his name in the history of boxing forever!

I didn't start watching the fight from the beginning and therefore felt FOMO.
In addition to Usyk's sports data it is worth noting how peaceful and respectful he is to those around him.
For these features as a Ukrainian i'm very pleased and I'm glad that our country is represented by such a person.

[KTChampions]

I just downloaded the fight and watched it again. Great smart boxing, I hope to see many more of these from Usyk.
What surprised me - the final gong sounded 4 seconds earlier (or did it seem to me?), did someone else pay attention to this? I got the impression that in this way Joshua was saved from a knockout - at that moment he stood leaning on the ropes with his hands down.

[TopTort777]

We have witnessed two upsets just this month first it was Pacquiao now Joshua, but Joshua's upset is very surprising and major one, considering that it was held in his hometown and he is at the peak of his career and gearing up for a match against Fury or Wilder, I hope Fury will not get upset when he fights Wilder, or it will be the end of the domination of British boxers.

I am not surprised that Usyk won. Big muscles did not help Joshua. More faster and technical Usyk outboxed him. Where Joshua make 1-2 punches, Usyk make a series of 10.

[coin-investor]

I am not surprised that Usyk won. Big muscles did not help Joshua. More faster and technical Usyk outboxed him. Where Joshua make 1-2 punches, Usyk make a series of 10.

Joshua is positive that he can still get up on this defeat and he wants to get back to the gym and train again and see what went wrong, there's a possibility of a rematch but I want Usyk to fight on the winner of the Fury - Wilder fight so we can have only one heavyweight champion, we all thought it's going to be easy for Joshua but Usyk proves us all wrong, it's a great achievement for Usyk who was a cruiserweight champion.