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September 29, 2021, 11:40:44 PM
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I think that in order to be able to seriously talk about the Fury - Usyk fight as a competitive one, it is necessary that Usyk gain at least a little weight (can he, given that he has already moved to a new weight category for himself?). Now Usyk weighs 100 kg, and Fury 123 (or already more) - 23 kilograms of difference, in fact, they are in different weight categories.

He will lose his speed and probably his accuracy if he gains more weight than he can afford, he is ok with his current weight as long as Usyk maintains that speed and accuracy, he can fight anybody as he did with Joshua and beat him, heavyweight is the only division where there is no maximum weight limit, Usyk if ever will add more weight it will not be more that will hinder his speed.

That's why Usyk is really a cruiserweight, and not a pure heavyweight. Fury is very different breed of heavyweight though and same with Wilder, taller and heavier. And it is not advisable for Usyk to put in more weight, yes he might lose his mobility and speed which is a big factor in his win against AJ. So it's better to just used the same weight against Fury (if they fought), but it will take a lot to be able to beat the version of this Fury.

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September 30, 2021, 12:04:49 AM
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We all know what Fury is capable of doing in the ring but now he has the added motivation of being a unified undisputed heavyweight champion if he can get past Wilder again and if can beat the winner of Joshua vs Usyk II. Even if Usyk defeated Joshua again then managed to put on weight, he will be no match for Fury.
Surely Fury is relishing the idea of fighting Usyk instead of Joshua for the belts too, since I would like to think there would be less risk of getting knock out, although I don't think it'll be any easier for Fury, however he'll probably get a kick out of fighting someone as technical as Usyk, since throughout his career he seems to the one with the better technical ability. I don't see how Joshua wins the rematch, Usyk moves his head constantly, and Joshua isn't exactly the most accurate with his big punches, and seems to struggle with fighters that are quick, and have good footwork.

This Fury fight against Wilder is going to be nerve wracking, I just have a feeling there's a potential banana skin here for Fury, he can't be caught napping otherwise he'll be literally napping on the canvas. I don't think it's going to go like round two vs Wilder, I actually think it'll be slightly more competitive like the first bout, though I personally had Fury winning that despite the late knock down.
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September 30, 2021, 02:25:54 AM
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We all know what Fury is capable of doing in the ring but now he has the added motivation of being a unified undisputed heavyweight champion if he can get past Wilder again and if can beat the winner of Joshua vs Usyk II. Even if Usyk defeated Joshua again then managed to put on weight, he will be no match for Fury.
Surely Fury is relishing the idea of fighting Usyk instead of Joshua for the belts too, since I would like to think there would be less risk of getting knock out, although I don't think it'll be any easier for Fury, however he'll probably get a kick out of fighting someone as technical as Usyk, since throughout his career he seems to the one with the better technical ability. I don't see how Joshua wins the rematch, Usyk moves his head constantly, and Joshua isn't exactly the most accurate with his big punches, and seems to struggle with fighters that are quick, and have good footwork.

Probably is, he has correctly predicted that Usyk will win against Joshua because of the former boxing abilities. And he is right, although more money will be in the table for him for a Joshua clash, for British boxing. But it has been derailed by Usyk.

This Fury fight against Wilder is going to be nerve wracking, I just have a feeling there's a potential banana skin here for Fury, he can't be caught napping otherwise he'll be literally napping on the canvas. I don't think it's going to go like round two vs Wilder, I actually think it'll be slightly more competitive like the first bout, though I personally had Fury winning that despite the late knock down.

Wilder is hell bent of bouncing back and avenging his lost, so for sure it will be very close as the first time. But Fury adjusted in the second fight and no more going to the judges score card. So it's time for Wilder to readjust and see if he can hit Fury with his straight right. So still very interesting and it might be close as well.

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September 30, 2021, 03:39:25 AM
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This Fury fight against Wilder is going to be nerve wracking, I just have a feeling there's a potential banana skin here for Fury, he can't be caught napping otherwise he'll be literally napping on the canvas. I don't think it's going to go like round two vs Wilder, I actually think it'll be slightly more competitive like the first bout, though I personally had Fury winning that despite the late knock down.

Wilder is hell bent of bouncing back and avenging his lost, so for sure it will be very close as the first time. But Fury adjusted in the second fight and no more going to the judges score card. So it's time for Wilder to readjust and see if he can hit Fury with his straight right. So still very interesting and it might be close as well.

Wilder will have to let go of his emotions first before he will be able to put up a fight against Fury the way he did the first time they met. Their first match was the perfect opportunity for Wilder. And he failed it. This third match is now easier on the part of Fury. Wilder is emotionally and psychologically beaten. I hope he's already gone past his excuses and emotional breakdown and start coming out as a fresh fighter. He'll have a chance this way.

But I'm still predicting a Fury vs Usyk fight in the months to come.
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Wilder will have to let go of his emotions first before he will be able to put up a fight against Fury the way he did the first time they met. Their first match was the perfect opportunity for Wilder. And he failed it. This third match is now easier on the part of Fury. Wilder is emotionally and psychologically beaten. I hope he's already gone past his excuses and emotional breakdown and start coming out as a fresh fighter. He'll have a chance this way.

But I'm still predicting a Fury vs Usyk fight in the months to come.

Wilder should learn from the Joshua - Usyk fight even if you are the stronger fighter if you are fighting who knows how to frustrate you, how to hit and not get hit and has the stamina to move around and make you look clumsy then you are in trouble, in his coming fight against Fury he will be a victim of relying on power just like Joshua who waited for a big punch that he can land that never came.

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This Fury fight against Wilder is going to be nerve wracking, I just have a feeling there's a potential banana skin here for Fury, he can't be caught napping otherwise he'll be literally napping on the canvas. I don't think it's going to go like round two vs Wilder, I actually think it'll be slightly more competitive like the first bout, though I personally had Fury winning that despite the late knock down.

Wilder is hell bent of bouncing back and avenging his lost, so for sure it will be very close as the first time. But Fury adjusted in the second fight and no more going to the judges score card. So it's time for Wilder to readjust and see if he can hit Fury with his straight right. So still very interesting and it might be close as well.

Wilder will have to let go of his emotions first before he will be able to put up a fight against Fury the way he did the first time they met. Their first match was the perfect opportunity for Wilder. And he failed it. This third match is now easier on the part of Fury. Wilder is emotionally and psychologically beaten. I hope he's already gone past his excuses and emotional breakdown and start coming out as a fresh fighter. He'll have a chance this way.

But I'm still predicting a Fury vs Usyk fight in the months to come.

Fury versus Usyk? I assume Anthony Joshua has lost? I did not follow anything about this fight and I have never read anything about the outcome of this until I read your post. In any case, Joshua showed some weaknesses versus Ruiz who he underestimated, I speculate he also underestimated Usyk or the British mafia is threatening him hehehe. This is a very strange inconsistency of performance for a very good boxer like him.

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September 30, 2021, 10:00:27 AM
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I think that in order to be able to seriously talk about the Fury - Usyk fight as a competitive one, it is necessary that Usyk gain at least a little weight (can he, given that he has already moved to a new weight category for himself?). Now Usyk weighs 100 kg, and Fury 123 (or already more) - 23 kilograms of difference, in fact, they are in different weight categories.

He will lose his speed and probably his accuracy if he gains more weight than he can afford, he is ok with his current weight as long as Usyk maintains that speed and accuracy, he can fight anybody as he did with Joshua and beat him, heavyweight is the only division where there is no maximum weight limit, Usyk if ever will add more weight it will not be more that will hinder his speed.

Everyone understands this very well, which is why this is an acute issue - otherwise all boxers would easily gain weight and fight only in heavyweights. I remember how Roy Jones Jr. lost speed when he was forced to put on weight.

We all know what Fury is capable of doing in the ring but now he has the added motivation of being a unified undisputed heavyweight champion if he can get past Wilder again and if can beat the winner of Joshua vs Usyk II. Even if Usyk defeated Joshua again then managed to put on weight, he will be no match for Fury.

Sure. But in fact, I have high expectations from Wilder, I think that history can repeat itself (as in the match with Joshua - Usyk) and if Wilder can overcome his mental problems, then with the right tactics he will have high chances against Fury.

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September 30, 2021, 11:13:03 AM
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You are right there was always a chance a big hitter like Joshua could have caused damaged to Fury if not by KO then by at least getting him on the canvas for a count of 5 or 6 and hurting his pride but he must definitely prefer to fight Usyk.

I am sure Fury will beat Wilder because Wilder has shown signs he is not mentally prepared and should not even be boxing for the time being. With that right hand sure he is a potential banana skin for Fury but overall how many of us actually see Wilder winning?

We all know what Fury is capable of doing in the ring but now he has the added motivation of being a unified undisputed heavyweight champion if he can get past Wilder again and if can beat the winner of Joshua vs Usyk II. Even if Usyk defeated Joshua again then managed to put on weight, he will be no match for Fury.
Surely Fury is relishing the idea of fighting Usyk instead of Joshua for the belts too, since I would like to think there would be less risk of getting knock out, although I don't think it'll be any easier for Fury, however he'll probably get a kick out of fighting someone as technical as Usyk, since throughout his career he seems to the one with the better technical ability. I don't see how Joshua wins the rematch, Usyk moves his head constantly, and Joshua isn't exactly the most accurate with his big punches, and seems to struggle with fighters that are quick, and have good footwork.

This Fury fight against Wilder is going to be nerve wracking, I just have a feeling there's a potential banana skin here for Fury, he can't be caught napping otherwise he'll be literally napping on the canvas. I don't think it's going to go like round two vs Wilder, I actually think it'll be slightly more competitive like the first bout, though I personally had Fury winning that despite the late knock down.

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September 30, 2021, 01:24:35 PM
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Wilder will have to let go of his emotions first before he will be able to put up a fight against Fury the way he did the first time they met. Their first match was the perfect opportunity for Wilder. And he failed it. This third match is now easier on the part of Fury. Wilder is emotionally and psychologically beaten. I hope he's already gone past his excuses and emotional breakdown and start coming out as a fresh fighter. He'll have a chance this way.

But I'm still predicting a Fury vs Usyk fight in the months to come.

Wilder should learn from the Joshua - Usyk fight even if you are the stronger fighter if you are fighting who knows how to frustrate you, how to hit and not get hit and has the stamina to move around and make you look clumsy then you are in trouble, in his coming fight against Fury he will be a victim of relying on power just like Joshua who waited for a big punch that he can land that never came.
Joshua does not easily upset, he has an undefeated record and lost against Ortiz, but it did not stop him, instead, he train harder to correct his mistakes and win convincingly in the rematch, and therefore I would not be surprised if he will win again against Usyk once a rematch is set.

On the other hand, we have Wilder who can't seem to move on his past loss against Fury, I think he should clear his mind so he could focus on the trilogy and find a way to beat Fury, it's not impossible though if he will try to play using a different strategy.

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Wilder should learn from the Joshua - Usyk fight even if you are the stronger fighter if you are fighting who knows how to frustrate you, how to hit and not get hit and has the stamina to move around and make you look clumsy then you are in trouble, in his coming fight against Fury he will be a victim of relying on power just like Joshua who waited for a big punch that he can land that never came.

I agree. In the past fights of Wilder, he was always relying on that killing right punch that will end the fight. But sometimes the opponent is strong enough that he could still get up after being downed and actually make a come back. Wilder should begin looking more at his opponent's capacity rather than his own power.

Fury versus Usyk? I assume Anthony Joshua has lost? I did not follow anything about this fight and I have never read anything about the outcome of this until I read your post. In any case, Joshua showed some weaknesses versus Ruiz who he underestimated, I speculate he also underestimated Usyk or the British mafia is threatening him hehehe. This is a very strange inconsistency of performance for a very good boxer like him.
Yes, Fury versus Usyk is the next probable fight. That's because I think Fury is going to turn out the winner in this match against Wilder. The betting odds are also speaking for that.

With that right hand sure he is a potential banana skin for Fury but overall how many of us actually see Wilder winning?

Only a few for sure. Not only after seeing both fights but also after seeing how Wilder reacted to his first loss.
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I think that in order to be able to seriously talk about the Fury - Usyk fight as a competitive one, it is necessary that Usyk gain at least a little weight (can he, given that he has already moved to a new weight category for himself?). Now Usyk weighs 100 kg, and Fury 123 (or already more) - 23 kilograms of difference, in fact, they are in different weight categories.

He will lose his speed and probably his accuracy if he gains more weight than he can afford, he is ok with his current weight as long as Usyk maintains that speed and accuracy, he can fight anybody as he did with Joshua and beat him, heavyweight is the only division where there is no maximum weight limit, Usyk if ever will add more weight it will not be more that will hinder his speed.

I also don't think that Usyk needs to be heavier to beat Fury. I mean if he will ever fight against fury then he probably has to be even faster than in the fight against Joshua in order to be able to dogde and avoid furys fast jabs. I think it would be bad for Usyk to increase his weight further than he absolutely has to in order to keep within the weight limits. In the end being heavier "only" gives you more punching power and i don't think that a little bit more punching power would drastically help Usyk, but the downsides of more weight, the loss of speed are definitely very dangerous for him. If the fight of Fury vs Usyk will ever happen i would bet that the fight goes over the full distance, because both of them are not really heavy hitters.
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Fury versus Usyk? I assume Anthony Joshua has lost? I did not follow anything about this fight and I have never read anything about the outcome of this until I read your post. In any case, Joshua showed some weaknesses versus Ruiz who he underestimated, I speculate he also underestimated Usyk or the British mafia is threatening him hehehe. This is a very strange inconsistency of performance for a very good boxer like him.
Nah, I don't think he underestimated Usyk. I think he was just bettered on the night. Now, I've heard that Joshua has activated the rematch clause, which is probably predictable. However, he has to be a lot better than he was the other night if he's to win against Usyk. Personally, I don't see it happening, and I expect a similar fight the second time around. It's a shame, and I do hope that Joshua vs Fury actually happens regardless, however it has definitely put a dampener on the fight because of it potentially never being a unification fight.  

You are right there was always a chance a big hitter like Joshua could have caused damaged to Fury if not by KO then by at least getting him on the canvas for a count of 5 or 6 and hurting his pride but he must definitely prefer to fight Usyk.

I am sure Fury will beat Wilder because Wilder has shown signs he is not mentally prepared and should not even be boxing for the time being. With that right hand sure he is a potential banana skin for Fury but overall how many of us actually see Wilder winning?
I'm not entirely writing off Wilder, we have to remember in their first fight despite Fury dominating it, he did get caught with a sweet combination late on, which resulted him on the canvas. I don't know if he was lucky or he's just got one hell of a chin, but he clearly took Wilders best shots, that's the best combination, and what looked like the sweetest he's ever connected with his power punches, and Fury got up. Now, on another day Fury might have been knocked on conscious, because those were some hefty shots.

Although, I guess the major point about the second fight was Fury highlighted, and pretty much exposed Wilder, and his inability to fight off the back foot. He's always waiting for the perfect punch, and Fury just took things into his own hands. What's riding on this fight is if Wilder can make the necessary adjustments to prevent that, for example better utilizing a jab off the back foot. Though, basing it on Wilder's technical ability in all the years he's been training, I don't expect him to make any significant adjustments.
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This Fury fight against Wilder is going to be nerve wracking, I just have a feeling there's a potential banana skin here for Fury, he can't be caught napping otherwise he'll be literally napping on the canvas. I don't think it's going to go like round two vs Wilder, I actually think it'll be slightly more competitive like the first bout, though I personally had Fury winning that despite the late knock down.

Wilder is hell bent of bouncing back and avenging his lost, so for sure it will be very close as the first time. But Fury adjusted in the second fight and no more going to the judges score card. So it's time for Wilder to readjust and see if he can hit Fury with his straight right. So still very interesting and it might be close as well.

Wilder will have to let go of his emotions first before he will be able to put up a fight against Fury the way he did the first time they met. Their first match was the perfect opportunity for Wilder. And he failed it. This third match is now easier on the part of Fury. Wilder is emotionally and psychologically beaten. I hope he's already gone past his excuses and emotional breakdown and start coming out as a fresh fighter. He'll have a chance this way.

But I'm still predicting a Fury vs Usyk fight in the months to come.

Fury versus Usyk? I assume Anthony Joshua has lost? I did not follow anything about this fight and I have never read anything about the outcome of this until I read your post. In any case, Joshua showed some weaknesses versus Ruiz who he underestimated, I speculate he also underestimated Usyk or the British mafia is threatening him hehehe. This is a very strange inconsistency of performance for a very good boxer like him.

Joshua lost already, Usyk did a good job, being the technical boxer and it seems that Joshua has a problem with fighter who move a lot and can box a lot. I also don't think that he underestimate Usyk, just a bad strategy by him and his trainer. And then they don't have any plan how to counter Usyk. If there is a British boxing mafia involved, it should be the other way around, Joshua should win in the judges score card, but that will be obvious. So yeah, why not Fury versus Usyk, but Joshua uses his rematch clause so it will be Usyk vs Joshua first and maybe the winner will face Fury for the unification.

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October 01, 2021, 02:10:40 AM
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This Fury fight against Wilder is going to be nerve wracking, I just have a feeling there's a potential banana skin here for Fury, he can't be caught napping otherwise he'll be literally napping on the canvas. I don't think it's going to go like round two vs Wilder, I actually think it'll be slightly more competitive like the first bout, though I personally had Fury winning that despite the late knock down.

Wilder is hell bent of bouncing back and avenging his lost, so for sure it will be very close as the first time. But Fury adjusted in the second fight and no more going to the judges score card. So it's time for Wilder to readjust and see if he can hit Fury with his straight right. So still very interesting and it might be close as well.

Wilder will have to let go of his emotions first before he will be able to put up a fight against Fury the way he did the first time they met. Their first match was the perfect opportunity for Wilder. And he failed it. This third match is now easier on the part of Fury. Wilder is emotionally and psychologically beaten. I hope he's already gone past his excuses and emotional breakdown and start coming out as a fresh fighter. He'll have a chance this way.

But I'm still predicting a Fury vs Usyk fight in the months to come.

On the contrary, this might fuel him, sort of motivation for Wilder to be self aware on the fight itself.

Yeah, those excuses though, he should let go of it and move forward to his fight with Fury and as I have said, used this to motivate himself. Very close, although obviously Fury is the favorite to finish their history and win 2 out of 3 in their fight. And then we can talk Fury vs Usyk next.

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Joshua lost already, Usyk did a good job, being the technical boxer and it seems that Joshua has a problem with fighter who move a lot and can box a lot. I also don't think that he underestimate Usyk, just a bad strategy by him and his trainer. And then they don't have any plan how to counter Usyk. If there is a British boxing mafia involved, it should be the other way around, Joshua should win in the judges score card, but that will be obvious. So yeah, why not Fury versus Usyk, but Joshua uses his rematch clause so it will be Usyk vs Joshua first and maybe the winner will face Fury for the unification.

I watched the replay of the fight several times and see what went wrong on Joshua, this loss is worse than the Ruiz fight, when he fought Ruiz he is a replacement for Miller he trained for Miller on his US debut but ends up fighting Ruiz instead where he has no idea what Ruiz is bringing, but on the Usyk fight he is well prepared and he has prepared for several months and he ends up getting beaten by a good and technical boxer, Joshua has no answer he prepared for Usyk but his plan did not work and he has no answer on Usyk attack, imagine several months of training yet he ends up not knowing what to do.
There's a rematch but what could Joshua possibly do to beat Usyk maybe change the whole team to a team that will bring Joshua's full potential.




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October 01, 2021, 06:26:50 AM
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This Fury fight against Wilder is going to be nerve wracking, I just have a feeling there's a potential banana skin here for Fury, he can't be caught napping otherwise he'll be literally napping on the canvas. I don't think it's going to go like round two vs Wilder, I actually think it'll be slightly more competitive like the first bout, though I personally had Fury winning that despite the late knock down.

Wilder is hell bent of bouncing back and avenging his lost, so for sure it will be very close as the first time. But Fury adjusted in the second fight and no more going to the judges score card. So it's time for Wilder to readjust and see if he can hit Fury with his straight right. So still very interesting and it might be close as well.

Wilder will have to let go of his emotions first before he will be able to put up a fight against Fury the way he did the first time they met. Their first match was the perfect opportunity for Wilder. And he failed it. This third match is now easier on the part of Fury. Wilder is emotionally and psychologically beaten. I hope he's already gone past his excuses and emotional breakdown and start coming out as a fresh fighter. He'll have a chance this way.

But I'm still predicting a Fury vs Usyk fight in the months to come.

Fury versus Usyk? I assume Anthony Joshua has lost? I did not follow anything about this fight and I have never read anything about the outcome of this until I read your post. In any case, Joshua showed some weaknesses versus Ruiz who he underestimated, I speculate he also underestimated Usyk or the British mafia is threatening him hehehe. This is a very strange inconsistency of performance for a very good boxer like him.

Joshua lost already, Usyk did a good job, being the technical boxer and it seems that Joshua has a problem with fighter who move a lot and can box a lot. I also don't think that he underestimate Usyk, just a bad strategy by him and his trainer. And then they don't have any plan how to counter Usyk. If there is a British boxing mafia involved, it should be the other way around, Joshua should win in the judges score card, but that will be obvious. So yeah, why not Fury versus Usyk, but Joshua uses his rematch clause so it will be Usyk vs Joshua first and maybe the winner will face Fury for the unification.

Why would it be the other way around? Rigged fights always go against the expectations of the bettors and the fans. This is why the mafia tell the fighters who are the favorites to win fights to lose on purpose and pay them.

In any case, if there is a rematch, I would bet Joshua. This might only be another Ruiz moment, I reckon.

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October 01, 2021, 06:53:15 AM
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This Fury fight against Wilder is going to be nerve wracking, I just have a feeling there's a potential banana skin here for Fury, he can't be caught napping otherwise he'll be literally napping on the canvas. I don't think it's going to go like round two vs Wilder, I actually think it'll be slightly more competitive like the first bout, though I personally had Fury winning that despite the late knock down.
Only a week until the fury and wilder battle will be held at the T-Mobile Arena, although the fight was delayed several times, but I think this fight will be very interesting, especially since the wilder has the opportunity to avenge the defeat he got from fury in the first fight and lose the title the WBC.
But if you look at the footage of their first and second fight, I'm sure if Fury will be able to beat Wilder again by knockout later, I can't wait to see the fight happen and bet for Fury victory.

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In any case, if there is a rematch, I would bet Joshua. This might only be another Ruiz moment, I reckon.
Nah, I don't think so. The Ruiz fight Joshua was winning the fight prior to being caught when they were exchanging back, and forth. In fact, I believe he had already knocked down Ruiz a few times prior to being knocked down himself. However, this fight was completely different, he was never winning in this fight, and it didn't even look close. Unfortunately, the score cards by the judges make it closer than it actually was, and probably because of the British bias, but I had Joshua winning maybe 4 rounds maximum, but probably more like 3 rounds at a push.

He was outworked, out skilled, and looked like he got wobbled quite a few times, and not just the once in the last few seconds of the last round. He would need to significantly improve, and probably revert back to his old ways, and go for the knockout quickly. Otherwise, Usyk will do more of the same in the rematch.
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October 01, 2021, 10:05:20 AM
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In any case, if there is a rematch, I would bet Joshua. This might only be another Ruiz moment, I reckon.

I'm hoping it's like that,  Joshua will come to the match knowing what he'll do with Usyk, but unfortunately, Joshua has not fought a fighter like Usyk in the past, all the fighters he has beaten are old, coming from short notice and coming from sickness and injury check out some of the fighters he fought in the past and their condition, their rank and circumstances when they fought Joshua



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I think that in order to be able to seriously talk about the Fury - Usyk fight as a competitive one, it is necessary that Usyk gain at least a little weight (can he, given that he has already moved to a new weight category for himself?). Now Usyk weighs 100 kg, and Fury 123 (or already more) - 23 kilograms of difference, in fact, they are in different weight categories.

He will lose his speed and probably his accuracy if he gains more weight than he can afford, he is ok with his current weight as long as Usyk maintains that speed and accuracy, he can fight anybody as he did with Joshua and beat him, heavyweight is the only division where there is no maximum weight limit, Usyk if ever will add more weight it will not be more that will hinder his speed.

That's why Usyk is really a cruiserweight, and not a pure heavyweight. Fury is very different breed of heavyweight though and same with Wilder, taller and heavier. And it is not advisable for Usyk to put in more weight, yes he might lose his mobility and speed which is a big factor in his win against AJ. So it's better to just used the same weight against Fury (if they fought), but it will take a lot to be able to beat the version of this Fury.

There's only so much weight someone can put on before it becomes a hinderance as bodybuilders often don't make good fighters and are too bulky. Usyk obviously isn't a true heavyweight and I think he would struggle to get much bigger than he is right now but he should just do what he did against AJ and try outbox him and dodge whatever Fury throws at him. Easier said than done though and I think Fury is a better boxer than AJ.

We all know what Fury is capable of doing in the ring but now he has the added motivation of being a unified undisputed heavyweight champion if he can get past Wilder again and if can beat the winner of Joshua vs Usyk II. Even if Usyk defeated Joshua again then managed to put on weight, he will be no match for Fury.
Surely Fury is relishing the idea of fighting Usyk instead of Joshua for the belts too, since I would like to think there would be less risk of getting knock out, although I don't think it'll be any easier for Fury, however he'll probably get a kick out of fighting someone as technical as Usyk, since throughout his career he seems to the one with the better technical ability. I don't see how Joshua wins the rematch, Usyk moves his head constantly, and Joshua isn't exactly the most accurate with his big punches, and seems to struggle with fighters that are quick, and have good footwork.

AJ is just going to have to go all in and go for the knock out. He's not going to outbox him for sure. He doesn't have anything to lose at this point so he's going to have to do something drastically different if he wants to win. I don't think it's out of reach for AJ but he needs a new game plan.

This Fury fight against Wilder is going to be nerve wracking, I just have a feeling there's a potential banana skin here for Fury, he can't be caught napping otherwise he'll be literally napping on the canvas. I don't think it's going to go like round two vs Wilder, I actually think it'll be slightly more competitive like the first bout, though I personally had Fury winning that despite the late knock down.

That's what makes it exciting. Wilder could have that butthurt strength as I think Fury has got well and truly inside his head so I'm hoping he comes rushing out of the gates. I hope they're both just slogging at each other.

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