ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - Sportsbet.io discussion thread

[molsewid]

There was an article earlier in the month on bloomberg concerning the esports investors drying up due to their sponsorships going a rye, then the whole thing with the exchange funding going belly up all at once:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-08/the-hype-around-esports-is-fading-as-investors-and-sponsors-flee
EG disbanding in North America and moving it's operations to South America was the first step.
There were some other teams in the Dota2 chapter that have had to disband due to the lack of funding.

Yes as what I am seeing, Dota shows the game that has the highest prize among all other esports, that's why we often see some teams disbanded or selling their rights to other team, we can say that salary of an esport player is too high as well, maybe because DOTA is the first known lan game and free to play. Last time, I heard some team looking for sponsors for them to support players salary and other benefits.

[rdbase]

There was an article earlier in the month on bloomberg concerning the esports investors drying up due to their sponsorships going a rye, then the whole thing with the exchange funding going belly up all at once:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-08/the-hype-around-esports-is-fading-as-investors-and-sponsors-flee
EG disbanding in North America and moving it's operations to South America was the first step.
There were some other teams in the Dota2 chapter that have had to disband due to the lack of funding.

Yes as what I am seeing, Dota shows the game that has the highest prize among all other esports, that's why we often see some teams disbanded or selling their rights to other team, we can say that salary of an esport player is too high as well, maybe because DOTA is the first known lan game and free to play. Last time, I heard some team looking for sponsors for them to support players salary and other benefits.

This fact about esports I hadn't checked into before and was surprised to find out that DOTA2 had given the highest amount in prizes for their tournaments.
I'd be more interested to find out which esports has the most viewership among the biggest championship tournaments for these categories as well.

I know Valorant is getting up there on the list of most popular upcoming esports streamed on twitch.

[jakelyson]

There was an article earlier in the month on bloomberg concerning the esports investors drying up due to their sponsorships going a rye, then the whole thing with the exchange funding going belly up all at once:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-08/the-hype-around-esports-is-fading-as-investors-and-sponsors-flee
EG disbanding in North America and moving it's operations to South America was the first step.
There were some other teams in the Dota2 chapter that have had to disband due to the lack of funding.

Yes as what I am seeing, Dota shows the game that has the highest prize among all other esports, that's why we often see some teams disbanded or selling their rights to other team, we can say that salary of an esport player is too high as well, maybe because DOTA is the first known lan game and free to play. Last time, I heard some team looking for sponsors for them to support players salary and other benefits.

It will be hard to survive as a team without any sponsors. Unless you are consistently winning tournaments, it will be very hard to even just to sustain the payment of the players. The average salary of professional DOTA players is from 10 to 15K per month. Really top players can get up to 35K per month. Without sponsors, teams will not be able to keep their players. So if a team is not performing well, team owners choose to sell their rights to other team owners.

[boyptc]

It will be hard to survive as a team without any sponsors. Unless you are consistently winning tournaments, it will be very hard to even just to sustain the payment of the players. The average salary of professional DOTA players is from 10 to 15K per month. Really top players can get up to 35K per month. Without sponsors, teams will not be able to keep their players. So if a team is not performing well, team owners choose to sell their rights to other team owners.

It's different for those that have already won majors and got enough savings. But it's true, a team that doesn't have any major sponsorship will struggle in the long run.

The salary of the professional Dota 2 players are quite high and that's for real. An organization is earning not just from tournament winnings but mostly from brand deals and sponsorships.

AFAIK, with tournament winnings, the players have % on it and they'll have to share it with everyone together with the org.

[rdbase]

It will be hard to survive as a team without any sponsors. Unless you are consistently winning tournaments, it will be very hard to even just to sustain the payment of the players. The average salary of professional DOTA players is from 10 to 15K per month. Really top players can get up to 35K per month. Without sponsors, teams will not be able to keep their players. So if a team is not performing well, team owners choose to sell their rights to other team owners.

It's different for those that have already won majors and got enough savings. But it's true, a team that doesn't have any major sponsorship will struggle in the long run.

The salary of the professional Dota 2 players are quite high and that's for real. An organization is earning not just from tournament winnings but mostly from brand deals and sponsorships.

AFAIK, with tournament winnings, the players have % on it and they'll have to share it with everyone together with the org.

Well that would only make sense since they are probably all under a contractual agreement with their respective team to do so.

These players probably stay at gaming camps while on tour and so have to pay for their own amenities.
Of course it is different for every league and esports category.
I only know how Counterstrike players agreements are with their squads starting from the academy and ranking up from there too go on to become professional players.

[boyptc]

It's different for those that have already won majors and got enough savings. But it's true, a team that doesn't have any major sponsorship will struggle in the long run.

The salary of the professional Dota 2 players are quite high and that's for real. An organization is earning not just from tournament winnings but mostly from brand deals and sponsorships.

AFAIK, with tournament winnings, the players have % on it and they'll have to share it with everyone together with the org.

Well that would only make sense since they are probably all under a contractual agreement with their respective team to do so.

These players probably stay at gaming camps while on tour and so have to pay for their own amenities.
Of course it is different for every league and esports category.
I only know how Counterstrike players agreements are with their squads starting from the academy and ranking up from there too go on to become professional players.

Yes, all of them have to go along with each other on their booth camps to build chemistry to each other and it's easier to communicate. Since most of the tournaments and qualifiers are being done online, they can communicate to each other easy if they're altogether.

Aside from the entire organizations sponsorship.

It's also possible that each player can accept sponsorship as long as it's not going to be competing their current sponsors. I saw individual players that have their sponsors only for one to few in the team.

[rdbase]

^^
Good information @boyptc about the teams and their sponsorships in Dota boot camp training.

Still pretty slow in the esports area especially for the professional play.
Only thing that is available today in CS:GO is from the Icelandic league today with three matches:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/counter-strike/iceland/icelandic-el/matches

Dota2 has Moon studio Campfire for tomorrow:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/dota-2/moon-studio-dota-2/moon-studio-campfire-group-stage/matches

[boyptc]

^^
Good information @boyptc about the teams and their sponsorships in Dota boot camp training.

Still pretty slow in the esports area especially for the professional play.

No problem and that's okay even I, I'm still learning for other sports where you guys are better.

Only thing that is available today in CS:GO is from the Icelandic league today with three matches:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/counter-strike/iceland/icelandic-el/matches

Dota2 has Moon studio Campfire for tomorrow:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/dota-2/moon-studio-dota-2/moon-studio-campfire-group-stage/matches

DPC CN 2023 for Dota 2 has also started.

--> https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Dota_Pro_Circuit/2023/1/China/Division_I


There's also a tournament that's happening currently in the SEA where it's managed and sponsored by an online casino. Blacklist is playing there.

[rdbase]

Counter strike is ready to kick-off with Intel Extreme Masters at Katowice!
The markets are interesting with even a winner of the HLTV MVP award winner:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/counter-strike/esl-cs-go/intel-extreme-masters/intel-extreme-masters-katowice-2023-63a2dc7fd0b611ff771fee9d

Also too right @boyptc the DOTA2 Pro Circuit tournament is just ready to begin and the teams are starting their matches right now.
Here is the place to put in your picks for the winner of these early matches:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/dota-2/matches/today

[masulum]

Guys, do you have a recomended betting site for Mobile Legends Bang Bang? Since I never made any eSports gambling so I don't really know about this. Not for me, my friends looking for site with crypto payments options. I already doing search from Google, but I just need to know the best options from Bitcointalk members coz I believe here is the best place to find legit site.

[rdbase]

Guys, do you have a recomended betting site for Mobile Legends Bang Bang? Since I never made any eSports gambling so I don't really know about this. Not for me, my friends looking for site with crypto payments options. I already doing search from Google, but I just need to know the best options from Bitcointalk members coz I believe here is the best place to find legit site.

This market is available on Sportsbet.io as you can see in the screenshot below:

Have your friend register and you can get affiliate bonuses from him if he does play alot of mobile legends.

Here is the direct link to that category on the site for them to see the eSports hub on the site:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/esports-betting

They actually moved it over from the splash screen just before Christmas to be more visible because it was near the very end of the slider.

[Peanutswar]

Guys, do you have a recomended betting site for Mobile Legends Bang Bang? Since I never made any eSports gambling so I don't really know about this. Not for me, my friends looking for site with crypto payments options. I already doing search from Google, but I just need to know the best options from Bitcointalk members coz I believe here is the best place to find legit site.

I vouch with the sportsbet.io they are supporting this kind of game also they have a boost feature every day that reset its good if you are playing daily and waiting for the team you would like to play every day match, also another platform I've seen supporting this game is the Rivalry they don't have a ANN here afaik but they are supporting those but still preferred with the first one because of the features it has and mode of payments too.

[dothebeats]

Guys, do you have a recomended betting site for Mobile Legends Bang Bang? Since I never made any eSports gambling so I don't really know about this. Not for me, my friends looking for site with crypto payments options. I already doing search from Google, but I just need to know the best options from Bitcointalk members coz I believe here is the best place to find legit site.

Sportsbet.io.

I think this is the only crypto casino that covers these lines for M4. They cover a lot of games that are usually not covered by a lot of big bookies and they have been in business for over 5 years now. You'll also love their referral system and lots of bonuses that they have from time to time, especially on huge events in Football and NBA.

If your friend is from the Philippines, I'm pretty sure he knows some people that are agents on random sports betting sites. Those are okay-ish too but the mode of payment is thru GCash and not crypto.

[masulum]

This market is available on Sportsbet.io as you can see in the screenshot below:

Thanks for recommendation, it is possible to join sportsbet with VPN or Indonesian can join? i think most of network provider blocked sportsbet.io, or maybe mirror link is available to join sites without VPN that may can be accessed from here. I've try to open without VPN with 2 different providers, and both are blocked address.

[klidex]

This market is available on Sportsbet.io as you can see in the screenshot below:

Thanks for recommendation, it is possible to join sportsbet with VPN or Indonesian can join? i think most of network provider blocked sportsbet.io, or maybe mirror link is available to join sites without VPN that may can be accessed from here. I've try to open without VPN with 2 different providers, and both are blocked address.

Yes, I also want an answer to what you have asked.

Some time ago I tried to access the Sportsbet site without using a VPN, but it failed and I couldn't enter the site at all, then I tried again using the VPN, but still couldn't access it.
Does Sportsbet provide conditions that only certain countries can access the site?

[Lanatsa]

This market is available on Sportsbet.io as you can see in the screenshot below:

Thanks for recommendation, it is possible to join sportsbet with VPN or Indonesian can join? i think most of network provider blocked sportsbet.io, or maybe mirror link is available to join sites without VPN that may can be accessed from here. I've try to open without VPN with 2 different providers, and both are blocked address.

Yes, I also want an answer to what you have asked.

Some time ago I tried to access the Sportsbet site without using a VPN, but it failed and I couldn't enter the site at all, then I tried again using the VPN, but still couldn't access it.
Does Sportsbet provide conditions that only certain countries can access the site?

Source: https://sportsbet.io/help-centre/help-other/help-other-terms-and-conditions/general-terms-conditions

For various legal or commercial reasons, we do not permit accounts to be opened or used by customers resident in certain jurisdictions, including the United States of America (and her dependencies, military bases and territories), Australia, United Kingdom, Estonia, Lithuania, Netherlands, Belgium, France, Germany, Portugal, Serbia, Afghanistan, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Malta, Myanmar, Syria, Trinidad and Tobago, Yemen or other restricted jurisdictions ("Restricted Jurisdiction")

Its stated on section 3. Its not really that hard to find it out.
This is why if you do have plans on accessing it then you are bound on having a closed or locked account if ever you do get caught.
This is why its not really that recommendable on such option.

[klidex]

This market is available on Sportsbet.io as you can see in the screenshot below:

Thanks for recommendation, it is possible to join sportsbet with VPN or Indonesian can join? i think most of network provider blocked sportsbet.io, or maybe mirror link is available to join sites without VPN that may can be accessed from here. I've try to open without VPN with 2 different providers, and both are blocked address.

Yes, I also want an answer to what you have asked.

Some time ago I tried to access the Sportsbet site without using a VPN, but it failed and I couldn't enter the site at all, then I tried again using the VPN, but still couldn't access it.
Does Sportsbet provide conditions that only certain countries can access the site?

Source: https://sportsbet.io/help-centre/help-other/help-other-terms-and-conditions/general-terms-conditions

For various legal or commercial reasons, we do not permit accounts to be opened or used by customers resident in certain jurisdictions, including the United States of America (and her dependencies, military bases and territories), Australia, United Kingdom, Estonia, Lithuania, Netherlands, Belgium, France, Germany, Portugal, Serbia, Afghanistan, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Malta, Myanmar, Syria, Trinidad and Tobago, Yemen or other restricted jurisdictions ("Restricted Jurisdiction")

Its stated on section 3. Its not really that hard to find it out.
This is why if you do have plans on accessing it then you are bound on having a closed or locked account if ever you do get caught.
This is why its not really that recommendable on such option.

Thank you for the answer to the information you provided from my question above.
But it seems that the country where I live is not included in the list of countries that are prohibited by Sportsbet from being able to access it.
OK, I'll try other options to be able to access Sportsbet again. But regarding my account, I don't have an account with Sportsbet because I did want to access Sportsbet some time ago to be able to register, but I can't.

[rdbase]

This market is available on Sportsbet.io as you can see in the screenshot below:

Thanks for recommendation, it is possible to join sportsbet with VPN or Indonesian can join? i think most of network provider blocked sportsbet.io, or maybe mirror link is available to join sites without VPN that may can be accessed from here. I've try to open without VPN with 2 different providers, and both are blocked address.

Yes, I also want an answer to what you have asked.
Some time ago I tried to access the Sportsbet site without using a VPN, but it failed and I couldn't enter the site at all, then I tried again using the VPN, but still couldn't access it.
Does Sportsbet provide conditions that only certain countries can access the site?

Source: https://sportsbet.io/help-centre/help-other/help-other-terms-and-conditions/general-terms-conditions
For various legal or commercial reasons, we do not permit accounts to be opened or used by customers resident in certain jurisdictions, including the United States of America (and her dependencies, military bases and territories), Australia, United Kingdom, Estonia, Lithuania, Netherlands, Belgium, France, Germany, Portugal, Serbia, Afghanistan, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Malta, Myanmar, Syria, Trinidad and Tobago, Yemen or other restricted jurisdictions ("Restricted Jurisdiction")
Its stated on section 3. Its not really that hard to find it out.
This is why if you do have plans on accessing it then you are bound on having a closed or locked account if ever you do get caught.
This is why its not really that recommendable on such option.

Thank you for the answer to the information you provided from my question above.
But it seems that the country where I live is not included in the list of countries that are prohibited by Sportsbet from being able to access it.
OK, I'll try other options to be able to access Sportsbet again. But regarding my account, I don't have an account with Sportsbet because I did want to access Sportsbet some time ago to be able to register, but I can't.

Was the information I provided help you and the person whom you wanted to access the site able to register now?
I confirmed with customer support that the region you have stated is within their access of providing their services to you.
And regarding the VPN use it is allowed but only if you are not using it to hide from accessing from these restricted regions as they are able to limit those accounts they deem are breaching their rules once a KYC protocol is initiated from their side to anyone's account in accordance to their regulations.
Just like as with any other site you would use are compliant to do so.

On with the subject of this thread: ESports betting
The eSports HUB is looking more slick than the last time I used it. Including a livefeed of the match directly displayed on the market's screen as shown below:


DPC EEU 2023 is underway and it looks fierce and furious in the action:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/dota-2/paragon-events/dpc-eu-east-tour-1/matches

There is also Pro Circuit and Moon Studio campfire underway throughout the day and tomorrow:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/dota-2/perfect-world-dota-2/dota-pro-circuit-2021/matches
https://sportsbet.io/sports/dota-2/moon-studio-dota-2/moon-studio-campfire-playoffs/matches

[masulum]

Was the information I provided help you and the person whom you wanted to access the site able to register now?
I confirmed with customer support that the region you have stated is within their access of providing their services to you.
And regarding the VPN use it is allowed but only if you are not using it to hide from accessing from these restricted regions as they are able to limit those accounts they deem are breaching their rules once a KYC protocol is initiated from their side to anyone's account in accordance to their regulations.
Just like as with any other site you would use are compliant to do so.

Yup, informations from you is really helpful, my friends told me if he already made a register to Sportsbet.io, he was able to open Sportsbet because not using internet provider under state-owned enterprise. But I never ask him about he already made a bet there or not. If someday I have another questions, I will go to sportsbet.io thread or PM supports. thank you @rdbase 

[rdbase]

DPC is kicking off the day with some matches later on and can be viewed here:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/dota-2/matches/today

While Boom eSports are facing off with Talon at the moment:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/dota-2/epulze-dota-2/dpc-sea-tour-1/boom-esports-vs-talon-e-sports-63be92b0988a3e50e2853737