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Author Topic: GekkoScience has a new stickminer that does 300+GH  (Read 22555 times)
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July 13, 2022, 09:57:05 AM
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More nonces doesn't mean a better chip. More diff-1 nonces sure, but the actual nonce count must be scaled against the share value.




More nonce output (shift out from register) is a quantity benchmark, which can be controlled by chip
More difficulty archieved from a nonce is a quality benchmark, which can not be controlled by chip.

Can BM1397 filter a nonce in terms of difficulty inside its chip operation?
eg. use last 10 zero as criteria for output the nonce.
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July 17, 2022, 10:42:35 PM
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We've had some inquiries to Intel, but no news to report yet.

Intel chip miner would be very cool indeed.


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July 17, 2022, 11:35:01 PM
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We've had some inquiries to Intel, but no news to report yet.
Intel chip miner would be very cool indeed.
As far as I know, Intel will only build the ASIC chips themselves, but no sticks / pods / other formats of mining gear.

Sidehack, are there any news on the BM1397 (or other chip) pod miner?
And have you considered a 'mining card' with PCIe connection? I think that might be a pretty cool idea. Especially if it's not too many chips, most desktop PCs should have enough free PCIe slots, enough headroom on the PSU under normal conditions, and the cooling solution would obviously be automatically taken care of, as well.

I see availability and price of suited USB hubs (and extra PSU) as a big entry hurdle to stick mining, so being able to use what you already have (the PSU built into your desktop tower) would be great.

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July 18, 2022, 02:05:31 AM
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We've had some inquiries to Intel, but no news to report yet.
Intel chip miner would be very cool indeed.

Sidehack, are there any news on the BM1397 (or other chip) pod miner?
And have you considered a 'mining card' with PCIe connection? I think that might be a pretty cool idea. Especially if it's not too many chips, most desktop PCs should have enough free PCIe slots, enough headroom on the PSU under normal conditions, and the cooling solution would obviously be automatically taken care of, as well.


A mining card with few BM1397 chips is good idea. A water cooling can be put on the card. Then, no burnt on chips.

If PCIe is used, BM1397 chip may be needed to re-design with bus channel and driver software, etc. a challenge task.
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July 18, 2022, 02:37:32 AM
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A mining card with few BM1397 chips is good idea. A water cooling can be put on the card. Then, no burnt on chips.
Water cooling would probably not be required; a passive heatsink and the airflow of the case could be enough. But sure; especially if you already have a watercooling loop, adding one more component is very little overhead. Meanwhile if you were to setup a whole new watercooling loop for a bunch of stick miners, the 'overhead' in price is much higher.

If PCIe is used, BM1397 chip may be needed to re-design with bus channel and driver software, etc. a challenge task.
The chip doesn't need to be redesigned, no. The Compac F actually has an FTDI chip on it which handles the USB communication with the host and sends commands and data to the BM1397 over SPI or I2C, if I'm not mistaken. So the FTDI chip would need to be replaced by a PCIe chip. If there are driver issues, one could just pull power from the PCIe socket (I believe up to 60W is fine) and benefit from the PSU and cooling that's already set up within the chassis, but route out a USB connection through the back.
As the card's back panel would otherwise have no I/O, it would be possible to add a single USB port where you plug in a short USB cable that goes into a nearby rear-IO-USB port.

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July 18, 2022, 06:54:37 AM
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LOL - BFL's PCI-e monarch was a failure. Reinventing that is a really bad idea.

Among other reasons, having to run a full desktop PC to mine is way overkill and a waste.
People then run games/browsers/porn/whatever on the desktop and wonder why the miner response is crap.

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Well, I finally get my Solo Mining setup working. I put a 120mm fan in front of the Compact F and now its very cool (about 42°C). Didn't thought that would affect cooling that much. Without cooling at 200Mhz it's to hot to even touch the heatsink. Now it's running at 400Mhz. Maybe I go a little bit higher the next days.

But now I've found another problem with my setup. the latency to kanopool is quite high. As I'm from Germany, I use the server in the Netherlands. So I started some ping tests:
Code:
maik@ubuntuserver:~$ ./stratum-ping us-east.stratum.slushpool.com:3333
PING stratum us-east.stratum.slushpool.com (165.22.41.73) port 3333
us-east.stratum.slushpool.com (165.22.41.73): seq=0, time=114.237168ms
us-east.stratum.slushpool.com (165.22.41.73): seq=1, time=99.623643ms
us-east.stratum.slushpool.com (165.22.41.73): seq=2, time=99.876346ms
us-east.stratum.slushpool.com (165.22.41.73): seq=3, time=115.678376ms
us-east.stratum.slushpool.com (165.22.41.73): seq=4, time=115.727951ms

--- us-east.stratum.slushpool.com ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 5.970103386s
min/avg/max = 99.623643ms, 109.028696ms, 115.727951ms
maik@ubuntuserver:~$ ./stratum-ping sha256.eu.nicehash.com:3334
PING stratum sha256.eu.nicehash.com (35.195.231.223) port 3334
sha256.eu.nicehash.com (35.195.231.223): seq=0, time=20.476881ms
sha256.eu.nicehash.com (35.195.231.223): seq=1, time=57.968255ms
sha256.eu.nicehash.com (35.195.231.223): seq=2, time=14.78191ms
sha256.eu.nicehash.com (35.195.231.223): seq=3, time=19.668375ms
sha256.eu.nicehash.com (35.195.231.223): seq=4, time=15.026188ms

--- sha256.eu.nicehash.com ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 5.246158519s
min/avg/max = 14.78191ms, 25.584321ms, 57.968255ms
maik@ubuntuserver:~$ ./stratum-ping stratum.antpool.com:3333
PING stratum stratum.antpool.com (172.65.209.66) port 3333
stratum.antpool.com (172.65.209.66): seq=0, time=21.539309ms
stratum.antpool.com (172.65.209.66): seq=1, time=21.81553ms
stratum.antpool.com (172.65.209.66): seq=2, time=20.56617ms
stratum.antpool.com (172.65.209.66): seq=3, time=15.577957ms
stratum.antpool.com (172.65.209.66): seq=4, time=21.819313ms

--- stratum.antpool.com ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 5.132830337s
min/avg/max = 15.577957ms, 20.263655ms, 21.819313ms
maik@ubuntuserver:~$ ./stratum-ping solo.ckpool.org:3333
PING stratum solo.ckpool.org (51.81.56.15) port 3333
solo.ckpool.org (51.81.56.15): seq=0, time=95.358636ms
solo.ckpool.org (51.81.56.15): seq=1, time=94.843827ms
solo.ckpool.org (51.81.56.15): seq=2, time=95.135418ms
solo.ckpool.org (51.81.56.15): seq=3, time=98.809547ms
solo.ckpool.org (51.81.56.15): seq=4, time=103.071331ms

--- solo.ckpool.org ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 5.982074136s
min/avg/max = 94.843827ms, 97.443751ms, 103.071331ms
maik@ubuntuserver:~$ ./stratum-ping nl.kano.is:3333
PING stratum nl.kano.is (45.76.32.61) port 3333
nl.kano.is (45.76.32.61): seq=0, time=139.318823ms
nl.kano.is (45.76.32.61): seq=1, time=138.708716ms
nl.kano.is (45.76.32.61): seq=2, time=673.838292ms
nl.kano.is (45.76.32.61): seq=3, time=139.690423ms
nl.kano.is (45.76.32.61): seq=4, time=139.781674ms

--- nl.kano.is ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 6.289835004s
min/avg/max = 138.708716ms, 246.267585ms, 673.838292ms

Maybe it would be better to mine with my own bitcoin node? But my node is bitcoin core 22.0 wich doesn't work with cgminer  Undecided
Which bitcoin node version uses kanopool?
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July 18, 2022, 02:06:34 PM
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Hi all.
I'm extremely new to this and need some help.
I just purchased a Compac F, Raspberry Pi 4B, and a Wavlink Super Speed Powered USB 3.0 HUB.
I can't get the miner working with the Raspberry Pi.
I installed the latest Raspberry Pi 32 bit software and followed the instructions here for loading CGMINER.
I had the Compac F plugged into the USB Hub, and the USB Hub plugged into the blue USB port on the Raspberry Pi.
It wasn't seeing the Compac F. I get the error "No devices detected!", "Waiting for USB hot plug devices or press q to quit".
I then tried plugging it into all 4 USB Hubs, and it was never detected.
I uninstalled and reinstalled the 32 bit software, and that didn't resolve the issue.
I then loaded the 64 bit software, and that didn't resolve the issue.
I know the USB Hub and Miner are working, as I got them working on my MacBook Pro using Terminal.
Although I do get some GSF usb failures when running on the Mac at higher frequencies.
Please help.
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July 18, 2022, 02:36:05 PM
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Try running your command string starting with sudo. Normal install does not let you run without it. Somewhere in this thread is info on how to run a as normal user that will not require the sudo prefix.

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July 18, 2022, 03:21:37 PM
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Well, I finally get my Solo Mining setup working. I put a 120mm fan in front of the Compact F and now its very cool (about 42°C). Didn't thought that would affect cooling that much. Without cooling at 200Mhz it's to hot to even touch the heatsink. Now it's running at 400Mhz. Maybe I go a little bit higher the next days.
Nice, 42°C sounds pretty good. How / where are you measuring if I may ask?

But now I've found another problem with my setup. the latency to kanopool is quite high.
I don't think that should be an issue.

Maybe it would be better to mine with my own bitcoin node? But my node is bitcoin core 22.0 wich doesn't work with cgminer  Undecided
Which bitcoin node version uses kanopool?
I don't think the Bitcoin version is the reason here. There have been threads about solo mining against Bitcoin Core directly; here's someone who managed to do it with the exact same BM1397 Compac Fs!

Everyone on this post was so helpful I wanted to reach back out and let you know my solution which is subject to change by any other good advice I receive here.

I went out and bought a raspberry pi 4 with 8gigs and then bought the Argon One M.2 case that holds a SSD drive.  I bought the 1TB drive from Samsung.  Its a really neat tiny but powerful setup.  Then, I bought myself a Newpac USB miner based on the BM1387 chip.  Its running ubuntu.

I really had to do a lot of trial and error to get this all to work right.  I really like BFGMiner, but it will not work with the new Newpacs.  There was some posts about a year ago from @luke-jr about getting it supported but it doesn't have it yet.  The great features of BFGMiner from my point of view are the ability to use it as a stratum proxy for other miners as well as its ability to solo mine against the bitcoind higher versions.  But it just doesn't support the miner I use.

That's where cgminer comes in.  Cgminer is the only miner that supports the Newpac based on BM1387.  But, cgminer will not work for GBT solo mining against modern versions of bidcoind greater than 0.19.

So what I ended up doing is running my bfgminer as a stratum proxy and then run my cgminer with stratum+tcp and point it to the bfgminer.  Bingo works!

So that's my ugly setup! Smiley  I hope luke-jr reads this and decides to spend some time with the newpac drivers.

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Nice, 42°C sounds pretty good. How / where are you measuring if I may ask?

I measured with an IR thermometer gun on the backside of the Compac F where the chip is soldered. Maybe the Chip itself will be a little higher...

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July 19, 2022, 11:42:40 AM
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why is cgminer decreasing core speed? I setup 450 MHz last evening and today it's only 360 MHz

Code:
cgminer version 4.12.0 - Started: [2022-07-18 18:45:28.594]
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 (5s):203.4G (1m):235.3G (5m):222.3G (15m):218.4G (avg):218.7Gh/s
 A:3458650  R:2210  HW:2736  WU:3054.9/m
 Connected to nl.kano.is diff 442 with stratum as user xxx
 Block: 1cb04e4d...  Diff:29.2T  Started: [13:35:57.200]  Best share: 31M
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 [U]SB management [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 0: GSF 10051844: BM1397:01+ 360.00MHz T:360 P:360 (35:18)  |  100% WU:100% | 215.1G / 218.7Gh/s WU:3054.9/m
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 [2022-07-19 13:35:50.186] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block at height 745615
 [2022-07-19 13:35:57.200] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block at height 745616
 [2022-07-19 13:35:58.045] Accepted 7b96a84a Diff 530/442 GSF 0
 [2022-07-19 13:36:17.634] Accepted 0e3f6915 Diff 4.6K/442 GSF 0
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July 19, 2022, 12:17:48 PM
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why is cgminer decreasing core speed? I setup 450 MHz last evening and today it's only 360 MHz

cgminer will automatically reduce the frequency if the asic miner plateaus in order to protect it. This usually happens due to overheating or low voltage.

One of my miners gets adjusted on a regular basis and I've spent a lot of time trying to get it to stay at 400. All the others stay at 400 just fine. I've had them all at 400 before, but it just comes down to how much you want to troubleshoot.
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July 19, 2022, 01:07:33 PM
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why is cgminer decreasing core speed? I setup 450 MHz last evening and today it's only 360 MHz

cgminer will automatically reduce the frequency if the asic miner plateaus in order to protect it. This usually happens due to overheating or low voltage.

One of my miners gets adjusted on a regular basis and I've spent a lot of time trying to get it to stay at 400. All the others stay at 400 just fine. I've had them all at 400 before, but it just comes down to how much you want to troubleshoot.

How does it detect overheating
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July 19, 2022, 01:22:37 PM
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why is cgminer decreasing core speed? I setup 450 MHz last evening and today it's only 360 MHz

cgminer will automatically reduce the frequency if the asic miner plateaus in order to protect it. This usually happens due to overheating or low voltage.

One of my miners gets adjusted on a regular basis and I've spent a lot of time trying to get it to stay at 400. All the others stay at 400 just fine. I've had them all at 400 before, but it just comes down to how much you want to troubleshoot.

How does it detect overheating

It doesn't.  They just get tuned to the best the chips will do.

Sometimes adjusting voltages or adding cooling will improve things.  But sometimes the chip can only do the best it can do.

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July 19, 2022, 06:51:32 PM
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Anyone know where I can get a replacement voltage adjustment screw for one of these?  I was messing with the one unit that has given me troubles and broke it.  Not sure what I did but was having troubles with adjusting it so I grabbed a needle nose and well broke it.  I am comfortable soldering a new one on or looking for someone local to do it.  I just need to purchase a new one and I have no idea how to look it up.

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July 20, 2022, 10:14:56 AM
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Anyone know where I can get a replacement voltage adjustment screw for one of these?  I was messing with the one unit that has given me troubles and broke it.  Not sure what I did but was having troubles with adjusting it so I grabbed a needle nose and well broke it.  I am comfortable soldering a new one on or looking for someone local to do it.  I just need to purchase a new one and I have no idea how to look it up.

Thanks

I think it's an SMD potentiometer. But you have to know the resistor value...
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July 20, 2022, 12:46:10 PM
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