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May 13, 2022, 10:48:14 AM
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It's indeed a great timing that WBO has ordered Isaac Cruz and Ryan Garcia to have some talks/agreement on the said title so that the fight will materialize soon. I'm also hoping that Ryan's camp won't turn down this fight as The Golden Boy Promotions and his camp are vocal that they want Isaac Cruz for their boy (Ryan Garcia). This will be a good fight and Garcia will indeed face a dangerous man who is so thirsty and hungry.

I doubt if their team of Garcia would heed this order of the WBO because Isaac Cruz is a talented fighter and a very risky fight for Ryan Garcia where the reward is not the title itself, only a mandatory challenger to the champion. We all know that Golden Boy Promotions could make a championship fight for their ward directly without this so-called mandatory if the time comes, I mean if Garcia is ready for that.

I don't think that Cruz is a big risk to Garcia though, Cruz is not on Garcia's level so why they are afraid of him and Golden Boy not let Ryan fight him?

And the winner will have a crack against the winner of Haney vs Kambosos so this is a win-win situation or Garcia. So for me they should take the risk instead of someone given the opportunity.

Anyhow, at the end of the day, boxing is business, so maybe what GBP might be looking for Garcia is money fight and Isaac Cruz will not put a lot of money in the table for Garcia.

The way he fought Tank Davis and disposes of Gamboa he is a serious threat to Ryan Cruz, many people think Bivol is not on Canelo's level but look on the outcome you never underestimate a fighter like Isaac Cruz, have you missed The Pitbull's last two fights, he can pull an upset if Garcia is the favorite, Ryan will be the slight favorite here but not a heavy favorite he is not Tagoe that will run and hide on Garcia's punches, he will chase Garcia the whole rounds when they face each other in the ring.

He lost to Davis though? and beat Gamboa who has lost to Haney and Davis, so this is his 3rd straight lost and this might be a cherry pick fight for Cruz.

So there is no upset from Cruz last 2 fights, and it seems that stepping up, he is losing the fight. Although Garcia is on a comeback trail, I still believed that he has all the tools and again, he is over those mental issues already. So this is a good fight for him.

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May 13, 2022, 12:23:23 PM
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He lost to Davis though? and beat Gamboa who has lost to Haney and Davis, so this is his 3rd straight lost and this might be a cherry pick fight for Cruz.

So there is no upset from Cruz last 2 fights, and it seems that stepping up, he is losing the fight. Although Garcia is on a comeback trail, I still believed that he has all the tools and again, he is over those mental issues already. So this is a good fight for him.

It's usually on style and the boxer's power to absorb the punches ever since I saw Ryan get a knockdown from Luke Campbell the chin has become a suspect and Campbell is not even a power puncher, Ryan will have to deal with Cruz's power and aggressiveness and Cruz just need to connect one big punch in the chin to destabilize Garcia, sure Ryan will have a chance to win but he needs to train as hard as he can as he is in a serious fight this time.

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May 13, 2022, 01:50:15 PM
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He lost to Davis though? and beat Gamboa who has lost to Haney and Davis, so this is his 3rd straight lost and this might be a cherry pick fight for Cruz.

So there is no upset from Cruz last 2 fights, and it seems that stepping up, he is losing the fight. Although Garcia is on a comeback trail, I still believed that he has all the tools and again, he is over those mental issues already. So this is a good fight for him.

It's usually on style and the boxer's power to absorb the punches ever since I saw Ryan get a knockdown from Luke Campbell the chin has become a suspect and Campbell is not even a power puncher, Ryan will have to deal with Cruz's power and aggressiveness and Cruz just need to connect one big punch in the chin to destabilize Garcia, sure Ryan will have a chance to win but he needs to train as hard as he can as he is in a serious fight this time.

Ryan Garcia would not go down if Campbell is not a power puncher.
Judging by his professional record, https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/651514... Luke Campbell has 16KOs from 20 wins, so this guy is a tough opponent, and good thing Ryan Garcia is tougher as he gets up and beat Luke Campbell in the fight.
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May 13, 2022, 07:14:51 PM
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Tank admitted that he has broken his hands against Isaac so he fought him literally with one hand and still win. Gamboa is already wash fighter, so I don't consider it a great performance by Cruz. More likely it was a setup for Isaac to look great and now it paid off because he will have a chance to fight Ryan Garcia.

It's just shows that Gervonta Davis is indeed too much for Pitbull because he was literally fighting with one hand power but still lost to him, but I somehow know Davis confirmed that Pitbull got quite a hard head so that will be a challenge for Garcia as a knockout specialist if he can knockout Pitbull (correct me if I'm wrong though). If Garcia can pull a knockout victory here if incase this fight will happen then I think Garcia can somehow go for a match with Davis.

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May 14, 2022, 03:16:52 AM
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In any case, it is Jermell Charlo versus Brian Castano. The odds on Charlo is only 1.51. However, it appears his victory is a certainty.

Jermell Charlo is on another level. He is dangerous.

I'm hoping that someday he will face Canelo Alvarez in the catchweight at the Light Middleweight division but seems impossible now as previously beaten by a heavy underdog Dmitry Bivol a week ago.

The upcoming Charlo vs Castano II will now erase the questions on their 1st fight that ended up in a split decision.

I reckon the first fight only ended in a split decision because Jermell Charlo might have underestimated Castaño. I am not quite sure of this but we can ask @bisdak or @Boafeng. However, Charlo certainly makes it appear that he might be underestimating him in the press conference. I hope I am wrong and this is only trashtalking tactics from him hehe.

This might end with a knockout for Charlo but I will make it safe and bet only Charlo to win.

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May 14, 2022, 03:45:08 AM
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Tank admitted that he has broken his hands against Isaac so he fought him literally with one hand and still win. Gamboa is already wash fighter, so I don't consider it a great performance by Cruz. More likely it was a setup for Isaac to look great and now it paid off because he will have a chance to fight Ryan Garcia.

It's just shows that Gervonta Davis is indeed too much for Pitbull because he was literally fighting with one hand power but still lost to him, but I somehow know Davis confirmed that Pitbull got quite a hard head so that will be a challenge for Garcia as a knockout specialist if he can knockout Pitbull (correct me if I'm wrong though). If Garcia can pull a knockout victory here if incase this fight will happen then I think Garcia can somehow go for a match with Davis.

Right, but it just dawn on me that Ryan Garcia has a history of broken hands as well. So Isaac Cruz head my posed a problem for him as well. But probably if Ryan can land it perfectly, he might not suffered this injury and could score a knock out.

He has been eyeing Tank before his 'sabbatical' due to mental issues. IF he ever win against Cruz, maybe he will call Tank again but this time it could be in 140 lbs.

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May 14, 2022, 06:20:03 AM
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Tank admitted that he has broken his hands against Isaac so he fought him literally with one hand and still win. Gamboa is already wash fighter, so I don't consider it a great performance by Cruz. More likely it was a setup for Isaac to look great and now it paid off because he will have a chance to fight Ryan Garcia.

It's just shows that Gervonta Davis is indeed too much for Pitbull because he was literally fighting with one hand power but still lost to him, but I somehow know Davis confirmed that Pitbull got quite a hard head so that will be a challenge for Garcia as a knockout specialist if he can knockout Pitbull (correct me if I'm wrong though). If Garcia can pull a knockout victory here if incase this fight will happen then I think Garcia can somehow go for a match with Davis.

Right, but it just dawn on me that Ryan Garcia has a history of broken hands as well. So Isaac Cruz head my posed a problem for him as well. But probably if Ryan can land it perfectly, he might not suffered this injury and could score a knock out.

He has been eyeing Tank before his 'sabbatical' due to mental issues. IF he ever win against Cruz, maybe he will call Tank again but this time it could be in 140 lbs.

Unfortunately, the match will not push through anymore Sean Gibbons Isaac Cruz's manager decline for his ward to fight Ryan

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Pitbull Cruz’s promoter Sean Gibbons says they already had plans to fight in August, and they have the possibility of a rematch with WBA ‘regular’ lightweight champion Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis or fight with Rolando ‘Rolly’ Romero if he comes out victorious in his next contender.

Gibbons is still interested in matching a fight between Pitbull Cruz and Ryan Garcia at some point in the near future, but not now.

Ryan is disappointed that he cannot fight Isaac Cruz, his manager had a better plan, obviously, big money is involved here Gibbons knows that the fight between Tank and Cruz will be shown on Showtime PPV compared to if he is going to fight Ryan Cruz, so the potential match will have to take a backseat because Issac Cruz's handlers wants more money for his ward.

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May 14, 2022, 11:11:05 PM
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Anyone on the Castano vs Charlo rematch?

Odds are, ML:

Charlo 1.50
Castano 2.55

That's a great odd for the underdog and he seems to be hell bent on avenging his close and controversial lost to Castano (split draw).

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May 15, 2022, 02:43:12 AM
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Tank admitted that he has broken his hands against Isaac so he fought him literally with one hand and still win. Gamboa is already wash fighter, so I don't consider it a great performance by Cruz. More likely it was a setup for Isaac to look great and now it paid off because he will have a chance to fight Ryan Garcia.

It's just shows that Gervonta Davis is indeed too much for Pitbull because he was literally fighting with one hand power but still lost to him, but I somehow know Davis confirmed that Pitbull got quite a hard head so that will be a challenge for Garcia as a knockout specialist if he can knockout Pitbull (correct me if I'm wrong though). If Garcia can pull a knockout victory here if incase this fight will happen then I think Garcia can somehow go for a match with Davis.

Right, but it just dawn on me that Ryan Garcia has a history of broken hands as well. So Isaac Cruz head my posed a problem for him as well. But probably if Ryan can land it perfectly, he might not suffered this injury and could score a knock out.

He has been eyeing Tank before his 'sabbatical' due to mental issues. IF he ever win against Cruz, maybe he will call Tank again but this time it could be in 140 lbs.

Unfortunately, the match will not push through anymore Sean Gibbons Isaac Cruz's manager decline for his ward to fight Ryan

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Pitbull Cruz’s promoter Sean Gibbons says they already had plans to fight in August, and they have the possibility of a rematch with WBA ‘regular’ lightweight champion Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis or fight with Rolando ‘Rolly’ Romero if he comes out victorious in his next contender.

Gibbons is still interested in matching a fight between Pitbull Cruz and Ryan Garcia at some point in the near future, but not now.

Ryan is disappointed that he cannot fight Isaac Cruz, his manager had a better plan, obviously, big money is involved here Gibbons knows that the fight between Tank and Cruz will be shown on Showtime PPV compared to if he is going to fight Ryan Cruz, so the potential match will have to take a backseat because Issac Cruz's handlers wants more money for his ward.

Ok thanks for the update, so they are not interested in Ryan, hmm, but it seems that Sean had plans already to wait for the winner of Tank vs Romero. Doesn't make sense though because Tank has beaten him already and the chance of Romero winning is slim.

Anyhow, for Ryan, not sure if he can still make the 135 lbs limit. I mean in his last fight against Tagoe it is at a catch weight of 138 lbs. So the kid is growing and probably will have to move to 140 lbs sooner than later.

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That's a great odd for the underdog and he seems to be hell bent on avenging his close and controversial lost to Castano (split draw).

Yes, the first fight is very close and it can go either way. But I think in the rematch, Charlo who is the more athletic one, will make the right adjustments in the rematch and could win by late stoppage in my book.

No doubt that Castano is good, but maybe he just caught Charlo at the bad moment and almost beat him. But not this time though, Charlo is going to show that this fight is not going to be close like the first fight and it might no go to the judges scorecard.

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Anyone on the Castano vs Charlo rematch?

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That's a great odd for the underdog and he seems to be hell bent on avenging his close and controversial lost to Castano (split draw).

Yes, the first fight is very close and it can go either way. But I think in the rematch, Charlo who is the more athletic one, will make the right adjustments in the rematch and could win by late stoppage in my book.

No doubt that Castano is good, but maybe he just caught Charlo at the bad moment and almost beat him. But not this time though, Charlo is going to show that this fight is not going to be close like the first fight and it might no go to the judges scorecard.

Good call, the fight is over now, Charlo delivered one of his best performance, knocking down Castano twice in the 10th round to become the undisputed 154 lbs champion.

It was really very close fight though, Charlo might have a slight advantage going into the 10th and this is a fight of the year candidate.

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It appears that I should have been braver on my bet hehehe. I knew there was a good chance that Charlo would knockout Castaño, however, I was not sure about their first fight if it was only Charlo underestimating Castaño or if Castaño is really a very good boxer. Charlo winning with a knockout would have won more money.

Also, did everyone see Boots Ennis knockout his opponent in the 2nd round? I predict him to be a real challenge for the kings of welterweight, Errol Spence and Terence Crawford on 2023. His next fight should be vs. Keith Thurman to build his name.

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May 15, 2022, 09:44:55 AM
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Anyone on the Castano vs Charlo rematch?

Odds are, ML:

Charlo 1.50
Castano 2.55

That's a great odd for the underdog and he seems to be hell bent on avenging his close and controversial lost to Castano (split draw).

Yes, the first fight is very close and it can go either way. But I think in the rematch, Charlo who is the more athletic one, will make the right adjustments in the rematch and could win by late stoppage in my book.

No doubt that Castano is good, but maybe he just caught Charlo at the bad moment and almost beat him. But not this time though, Charlo is going to show that this fight is not going to be close like the first fight and it might no go to the judges scorecard.

Good call, the fight is over now, Charlo delivered one of his best performance, knocking down Castano twice in the 10th round to become the undisputed 154 lbs champion.

It was really very close fight though, Charlo might have a slight advantage going into the 10th and this is a fight of the year candidate.
Have watched the whole fight and they really are matched and its hard to know which will be the winner on that fight until the start of the 2nd half of the fight.
It was tie on the first half of the fight but at the start of the 7th round, you can feel that Castano is feeling fatigue already and Charlo took advantage of it by throwing jabs and counter punch. It was the 10th round where just a left hook that's defended a bit made Castano knocked down. I know from that already that he is tired at that moment and its good that the referee stopped it on his 2nd knockdown.

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There was going to be a fight between Floyd Mayweather and Don Moore. That was going to be an exhibition fight in UAE, but it was cancelled due to Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan passed away.

Does any one knows what is the story behind this two? Their fight wasnt promoted as usually, Moore havent boxed for years. It was just a an entertainment fight that sheikhs paid for? And Floyd and Moore were just entertainment puppets?

The only background is that Moore and Floyd used to be sparring partners, and Moore is undefeated but hasn't fought in years.

For Charlo vs Castano, what a ending, Charlo proving himself in this fight. And Castano's reaction to the left hook was delayed, but obviously it had some power behind because after that his legs is gone and Charlo finishes him for good with that left hook again, body shot for the 2nd knock down.

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It appears that I should have been braver on my bet hehehe. I knew there was a good chance that Charlo would knockout Castaño, however, I was not sure about their first fight if it was only Charlo underestimating Castaño or if Castaño is really a very good boxer. Charlo winning with a knockout would have won more money.

Same here, I wanted to bet on Charlo winning by KO. But I was not brave enough and chooses other sports to bet and then losses it. Perhaps Charlo didn't think that the Argentinian will be a problem in the first fight. So I would say that it's probably that he underestimated him and maybe he didn't train that hard in the first fight. But now, his real power is shown with that devastating short but crisp left hook right on the temple of Castano for the win. Tim Tszyu might be up next for Charlo.

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Now that Jermell Charlo is undisputed. He will be facing a lot of mandatories soon. The WBC's mandatory is another undefeated, the young towering inferno, Sebastian Fundora. The WBO's mandatory is also another young undefeated and son of a legend Tim Tszyu. There's also the WBO welterweight champion Terrence Crawford who can exercise his right as junior-middleweight's WBO's number 1 ranked should he wanted too. And Crawford already said he wanted those belts. I think Crawford is the biggest money for Jermell. But it is surprising that Jermell is not interested in a Crawford fight. Should Crawford beat Jermell, he will be the first ever 2 division undisputed champion in this 4-belt era. 

Who watched Evander Holyfield's son Evan? The former unbeaten son of a legend was brutally stopped in the second round after getting hit in the jaw. Currently his record stands now at 9-1-6.

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For Charlo vs Castano, what a ending, Charlo proving himself in this fight. And Castano's reaction to the left hook was delayed, but obviously it had some power behind because after that his legs is gone and Charlo finishes him for good with that left hook again, body shot for the 2nd knock down.

On that first knockdown, it was obvious that the fight was over because as what you have said, Castano's legs were gone, and yet the referee let the latter continue to fight, only to be punished more  Sad.

I was fortunate on not betting on this fight because I could have chosen Castano because I felt that this guy has the tools to beat Charlo but it seems that Charlo got the better of him tonight.

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For Charlo vs Castano, what a ending, Charlo proving himself in this fight. And Castano's reaction to the left hook was delayed, but obviously it had some power behind because after that his legs is gone and Charlo finishes him for good with that left hook again, body shot for the 2nd knock down.

On that first knockdown, it was obvious that the fight was over because as what you have said, Castano's legs were gone, and yet the referee let the latter continue to fight, only to be punished more  Sad.

I was fortunate on not betting on this fight because I could have chosen Castano because I felt that this guy has the tools to beat Charlo but it seems that Charlo got the better of him tonight.



It was good fight as both fighters are willing to give everything for a toe to toe fight, it's just that, Charlo is way more faster and stronger so he won the fight. I like this kind of fight because it's very entertaining, it's just sad that I was not able to put my bet on this fight, I would have bet on Charlo to win by KO.



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May 15, 2022, 02:26:38 PM
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Who watched Evander Holyfield's son Evan? The former unbeaten son of a legend was brutally stopped in the second round after getting hit in the jaw. Currently his record stands now at 9-1-6.

I watched that fight and it was a brutal knockout, if a boxer falls facedown on the canvass there's no way he can get back on his feet in time, Evan Holyfield is a heavy favorite because he is fighting an unknown fighter with a lot of losses but unfortunately this guy has heavy hands, he delivers that jab with a snap, and it was a well-timed right straight.
I just hope Evan is ok and he can go back again he is still a very promising boxer he just needs to improve his defense. 


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